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Please Peer Review Institute of Chartered Accountants of India

I have recently nominated Institute of Chartered Accountants of India for peer review. I humbly request that someone peer reviews the article.

Support requested for an Indian languages Wikipedian event in London

Hi,

I am currently discussing the arrangements for a London event supported by WM-UK and hosted by a large London museum (mid July) where we would help improve some articles about India related artefacts and create the same topics in Hindi and other language Wikipedias and there may be associated presentations and discussion to help the host institution with the topic of e-volunteers. It would be very helpful to assess potential interest and guarantee a couple of volunteers with suitable language skills that can help with facilitating the event. I would appreciate any comments and suggestions here or on my talk page or by email if you would prefer to make confidential comments. Cheers Fæ (talk) 08:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Update - confirmed the arrangements for this event, it's a great location and going to be engaging for the public. So far I have had no replies from anyone with Indian language skills, so come on, drop me a note. Fæ (talk) 18:49, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Why dont you post a message on Wikimedia-India list? AshLin (talk) 02:41, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Second that - the mailing list is the place to go for this kind of activities. please post a note there.--Sodabottle (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll get on to it. Fæ (talk) 06:22, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Support request posted to email list and the registration page is now live at V&A Wikilounge. Thanks Fæ (talk) 10:12, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Excessive overlap of Yaduvanshi Ahirs and Ahirs

I've been looking over Yaduvanshi Ahirs, and of the footnotes I could access from #1-27, only a handful even used the term "Yaduvanshi Ahir". It does appear that the term itself is notable, but spot-checking is leading me to believe that 90%+ of the article is referring to the Ahirs in general, rather than specifically the Yaduvanshi branch. I'm starting to think that the whole article's actual mentions of the Y. Ahirs specifically constitutes maybe a paragraph, and could just be merged into Ahirs in a section on the three primary branches thereof (along with Gwalvanshi and Nandvanshi Ahir subsets). Would anyone else like to spot-check this and weigh in at Talk:Yaduvanshi Ahirs? MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:30, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Update: I've trimmed out all material not specifically related to Yaduvanshi Ahirs, and ended up with just a few sentences, which I plan to merge into Ahirs. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Explain distinctions between Ahir, Yadav, Yaduvanshi Ahir?

I'm trying to sort out the whole Ahir situation, and it's looking more and more like Yadav is either synonymous with Ahir, and/or is the label for a sub-set of Ahirs who've taken the name Yadav at different points in history. Given that according to MS Rao, "Yadava" denotes "Ahirs who claim themselves to be Yadavas"[1], are "Yadava" and "Yaduvanshi Ahir" synonymous? The other problem I have is that other editors are trying to link the ancient Abhira and Yadava to the modern Ahir and Yadav, and thus fill the "History" sections with descriptions of those ancient tribes, but best as I can tell these links are more assumed/theoretical than a concrete chain of descent. Given that there were also medieval Abhira and Yadava groups (not just dim-past ancient), does anyone have a good handle as to how late the history should cut off to tell the story of these modern pastoral castes? MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: I'm seeing some vague mention that the Abhira/Yadava kingdoms faded out around the Moghuls circa 1400 AD. If anyone has insight about the transition to the modern castes, that'd be most helpful. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Baghel, Baghela, Vaghela

Aren't Baghel, Baghela, Vaghela dealing with the same subject? And if so, what's the best name for that article, Baghela? There was a very old merge proposal of Baghel and Baghela that wasn't followed through. --Muhandes (talk) 08:53, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Abhinav Bharat

This article needs to be split into two articles, but I'm not sure how and in particular how to title them, can anyone help? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 12:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

possibly into 1) Abhinav Bharat (Hindu nationalist organisation) and Abhinav Bharat (Indian charitable trust) --Sodabottle (talk) 12:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I may be confused, but even the nationalist organisation seems to be a charity trust. Dougweller (talk) 13:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah My bad!. The other AB doesnt seem to be notable except for the name confusion. Can we make the article about AB the hindu nationalist organisation alone and add a hash note at the top that this not the other AB and remove all references to the other AB from the article?--Sodabottle (talk) 13:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

List of blood donation agencies

I've been trying to deal with the link-farmishness of the current list of blood donation agencies, but I'm not 100% sure what the concept of "blood donation agency" means in other parts of the world. I don't want to randomly demolish the list just because there isn't a Wikipedia article on some of these organizations, and the India part of that list is quite long. Anyone have any suggestions on what would be considered a "notable" blood donation agency, or even just a primer on how blood donation is handled in India? SDY (talk) 01:06, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Need help

Hi I need help in creating New article and Articles alerts for both roads WP:INR and railways projects WP:INRI --naveenpf (talk) 03:22, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Merge Lawmaking procedure in India with Parliament of India

Please comment on the proposed merger of Lawmaking procedure in India with Parliament of India at Talk:Parliament_of_India#Merge_Lawmaking_procedure_in_India_with_Parliament_of_India.-- R.Sivanesh ^{✆ ©} 20:33, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Uttaran

While fixing typos on the Uttaran page, I noticed this page has history of edit wars and vandalism. Maybe semi-protect it from IP addresses? --Trelawnie (talk) 01:54, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Ethnic population

Where I get information about ethnic composition of the population by states of India?--Kaiyr (talk) 15:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Check Demographics of India. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:22, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

There is no.--Kaiyr (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Did you scroll down to the "Ethnic" section?

“ The national Census of India does not recognize racial or ethnic groups within India,[41] but recognizes many of the tribal groups as Scheduled Castes and Tribes (see list of Scheduled Tribes in India).

It should be noted that Indo-Aryan, Dravidian, Tibeto-Burman and Austro-Asiatic are mainly linguistic terms and denote speakers of these linguistic groups.

For a list of ethnic groups in the Republic of India (as well as neighboring countries) see ethnic groups of the Indian subcontinent or the tree diagram above.

”

The first sentence there probably sums up what your problem will be. Do note that there are some linguistic and religious stats, but it appears the Indian govenrnment is rather firm on avoiding ethnic/caste friction by not endorsing such distinctions. We encounter the same issue in caste articles, where post-Independence censuses no longer register caste. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

... Which is precisely the reason why I am opposed to using the "Population" heading in the Indian caste template. The only figure that can go in there is an old one, it was often hopelessly unreliable due to social aspirations "interfering" with the data, and it is misleading because it ignores the diaspora etc as well as being hopelessly out of date. Even adding "as at the census of 1941" (or whatever) will just confuse people. - Sitush (talk) 16:05, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

A whole lot of Indian caste/ethnic infoboxes are pretty much WP:Disinfoboxes, in that they generally add little to nothing that is not already properly covered in the lede. Personally, in most cases I'd be fine just using the upper right corner for a nice historical/anthropological image of a representative member, maybe the name in English and Local Language, and that's pretty much it. That would also avoid the whole "Classification" issue where folks like to jam in "Kings, warriors... and stonemasons" or "Absolutely positively Kshatriya and descended from gods". In the meantime, "Claimed Kshatriya, but classified by others as Shudra" is serving as a consensus compromise in many cases. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:21, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I seem to recall seeing somewhere a suggestion that the caste infobox template be abandoned. I just wish that it was. - Sitush (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

• Where I get information about lingustic composition of the population by states of India?--Kaiyr (talk) 07:44, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• www.censusindia.gov.in is the best place, official govt census data. I don't think they've released the breakouts for 2011 yet. The 20012011 breakout is available; more langauge links. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 08:08, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you! What is ``SCHEDULED LANGUAGES``?--Kaiyr (talk) 08:58, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• See 8th Schedule. Fixed typo above, the link was for 2001, not 2011. —SpacemanSpiff 09:21, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

University Institute of Engineering & technology, Panjab University

• Please help saving the WikiPage of UIET and in removing the Notability Tag from it.

  Panjab University is Chandigarh's pride and UIET is an in-campus engineering college in Chandigarh and one of the top engineering colleges in India.