User talk:Berean Hunter

Sticky Note: Operation Brothers at War

⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕))

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Opting in

Hi, Berean, no one's commented, and at the moment you must be very pleased at the outpouring of support, but is there a reason why you haven't opted in for edit counts? Most who run do. Gives people more detail about your history. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:48, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• I think he did and the system is lagged out. The talk page is a copy /paste, so it might just need to be updated. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 13:52, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• Jesus, that was a lot of work. I updated the Talk page to reflect the counts now that he's opted in. I hope I did it right. Why isn't there a way to have it update itself? Sigh.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• Because that would be easy and logical. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © (WER) 16:36, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CUTKD

Just saw your comment there - tbh it seems a bit of a waste of time having that SPI open when everything was resolved in the Hamish Ross SPI. My fault really - I should have withdrawn it once the main Hamish Ross one was open. Egg Centric 16:21, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

No worries, it is archived now.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 00:04, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Belated thanks for the advice...

... on the mark-block script. It is useful. However, I wanted to let you know that I knew full well that those users weren't blocked yet. I was deliberately holding off on blocking each sock until I had checked their edits and reverted everything that I could not personally vouch for as valid. With this particular banned sockpuppeteer, blocking the socks isn't particularly urgent (he typically discards a sock after a day or two, and sometimes after only a few edits, so blocking is only useful for the active ones -- and the autoblocks on whichever IPs he's actively using). Rather, the goal in finding his socks is to get rid of the valid-appearing nonsense that he likes to propagate throughout the encyclopedia, including finding previously undetected socks so their nonsense also can be expunged.

I'm happy to see that you are finally an RFA candidate, and I was glad to be able to add my support. --Orlady (talk) 23:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I know what those house pets can be like. :)

Yes, you had a lot of work with that one and did a good job. When some blocks have been issued but others aren't yet blocked, I may summarize the results for the sake of any patrolling admin as it makes it easier for them to see what remains. If it is clear that they won't be blocked, I don't bother. It wasn't unique to this case and I wasn't expecting you in particular to be responsible for it.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 00:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah, but I like to try to clean up after my pet socks (as well as my house pets). --Orlady (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

SPI

I notice that you are an active participant at SPI but are not (yet) an admin. Firstly, thanks for this, and secondly, how does an editor go about becoming involved or a 'clerk' in these investigations? Ankh.Morpork 22:22, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi AnkhMorpork, Thank you. You can post at the bottom of this page. There is currently a waiting list there. Please note that any editor may help provide evidence and comment so if you would like to help, you can try your hand at patrolling cases. We always like the additional help.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

And what does patrolling comprise of? Looking through the users contributions and highlighting relevant diffs? Ankh.Morpork 22:48, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

You can see it in this section and you may want to read the whole page since you are curious.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 00:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

User Fastballjohnd

You were a participant in the ANI discussion[1] about what should be done in regards to this user. I'm just letting you know that he may have created yet another sockpuppet account. I have opened an investigation[2] and have asked for a check user to be done. This message is a heads up. If you have any reply for me, write it here or at the ANI . I will keep a lookout....William 14:33, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree this is him and have endorsed the request.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:36, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

American Civil War Military Strategy

Dear BH - Where is the article on military strategy for the the Civil War? I can't seem to locate it - it exists, does it not? 36hourblock (talk) 18:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello 36hourblock (ominous name :), I don't know of a singular article exiting on this subject and I imagine that it would be quite an undertaking if it did. Most of the strategies are actually addressed in the articles on campaigns and battles...sometimes in the articles on leaders. Perhaps the most significant article on ACW strategy itself that I know of would be the one on the Anaconda Plan which was the primary Union strategy in place.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:51, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

An undertaking, I agree, but can we create articles that deal with the general subject, and design one for Union Strategy, the other for Confederate Strategy? As a source, the following is a fine place to begin, on overview by McWhiney:

McWhiney, Grady. 1965. Who Whipped Whom? Confederate Defeat Re-examined. (Originally published in Civil War History, XI, No. 1 (march 1965) 5-26). Essays on the Civil War and Reconstruction Ed. Erwin Unger. Holt, Rinehart and Winston, Inc. New York. 67.59.92.60 (talk) 21:16, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Going out on a limb here ...

Gratz on your impending promotion, and very happy to see it. - Dank (push to talk) 16:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I haven't looked yet as I'm getting on later than I expected. Thank you very much for the congratulations. :)
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I think it is safe to say that as long as you don't go nuts and call Jimmy an asshat on his talkpage, you are getting the bit. Well, that would probably get and lose you votes and be a wash, but still. You have had it entirely too easy this week, and I'm saddened that you haven't gotten to enjoy the normal drama that is RfA ;) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 19:42, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Heh, I haven't had time to call anyone an asshat if I had wanted to. :) Been trying to get time freed up today to be here.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 20:02, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Confusion

• User:Bearian

I wonder how many RfA commenters were (like me) confused into thinking you were the above editor? : ) - jc37 18:11, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I took some pause myself years ago when I realized that I had created a name that bore some similarity. Hopefully it hasn't been too confusing. :)
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 19:41, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I also wanted to thank you for removing the shading from your signature. It made it well-nigh impossible for me to read on this comp. - jc37 19:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I had noticed that it rendered differently on different OS's and browsers. It even rendered quite differently on Firefox on GNU/Linux than it did on Firefox for Windows. Glad you can see this better now.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 20:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Told ya ;) I think the arrow is ok as long as it isn't over the name though. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 20:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Not a reflection on you, just a general thought: I think we should disallow shading in signatures per WP:ACCESS... - jc37 20:21, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Congrats!

One size fits all, sorry.

You have certainly earned the bit by your years of dedicated and good natured contribution. Your clean sweep certainly was well earned, and perhaps started a whole new era of a kinder and gentler RfA althought I doubt it.. I'm very glad you allowed me to co-nom you. Now get to work, we have socks to block at SPI...;-) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 20:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• Many, many congratulations from me too. --John (talk) 20:59, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you...no hat? Thanks to both. :)
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

No hat, but you had 160 in unanimous support, putting you at #26 at WP:100, impressive indeed. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 21:24, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations! --j⚛e decker^talk 21:51, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the team. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 22:01, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on passing your RfA. You might interested in looking at the New Admin School or the admins' how-to guide before you get started with the mop. For words of caution, see the village stocks and the essay "Don't delete the Main Page"; without my handiwork those two pages might not have been created. Maxim_(talk) 20:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations! Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Will read carefully and thoroughly. Thank you both.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

U can haz mopz!

Congratulations, Berean. There was never any doubt in my mind that you were an eminently suitable candidate for administrator, and it seems that the community unanimously agreed with that assessment. Now get to work already; there's lots of stuff to do at WP:SPI, WP:SCV can always use more hands, and I'm sure there are backlogs around you can hack at.

What, sleep? Didn't you read the fine print? Muahaha! — Coren ^(talk) 20:53, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Congrats! Now get to work! ;) but seriously, congrats. You're awesome and you'll be such a wonderful admin. Best wishes! Feel free to ask me if you need help with adminny things. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 20:59, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you and will do...:)
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

If it weren't for the honor . . .

	Time to mop up
	Congratulations. Now go do something useful! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:00, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much...will try. :)
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone for your support...

I would like to thank everyone for your support and the kind words which I find humbling. I usually spend time observing and appreciating the work of others and I admit that I have been surprised that so many have taken note to remark in the RFA and give their appreciation.

I would also like to note that I was honored to have run simultaneously with several excellent candidates who will make for great administrators. I saw that there was clearly a good mood shared by many for the successes of this week and happy to see such positive spirit.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 21:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Congratulations on passing RfA! WikiPuppies! (bark) 22:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• 160 people in support, unanimously. And you deserve it — for a long time, I had been under the impression that you were already an administrator! Good luck. =) Master&Expert (Talk) 00:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you both!
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 14:07, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Congrats and a question

Hello BH. I would like to add my congrats on your successful RFA. It is well deserved. And now to my question. You already endorsed my SPI here Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pé de Chinelo last week. Do you have any idea how long it will be before it is acted on? I ask because the sock has begun editing again by making the exact same kind of genre change edits that are one of the hallmarks of their disruption on WikiP. Just to vent a little - it takes a minute or so to file a AIV report and those are acted on quickly (usually) - it took me the better part of 45 minutes to make sure the SPI was as thorough as I could make it but it is now it is just short of two weeks and this editor is still causing problems. It seems like an inverse proportion of work to results :( Other than bothering you with this is there something else that I could/should have done in this situation. My apologies for dumping all this on you but I thought I would ask since you are somewhat familiar with this. Cheers and again congrats. MarnetteD | Talk 18:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi again. Just wanted to let you know that MuZemike did close this case with a block tonight (my time) - I don't know if you have any feel from your time in clerking SPI cases that this has become the norm as far as response time is concerned but if it is I would just like to pass along that my experience is that a returning sock can do more damage that an IP on a vandalism spree. Thus, I wish they could get closed down a bit sooner. Do you think that there is a spot other than the drama board of AN/I that I might express this without seeming too negative. If not then please don't bother and best wishes with the mop and pail. MarnetteD | Talk 04:28, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

My apologies for the delay in your case. I can't give you a specific reason why this one took this long. The SPI cases need more patrolling editors and admins, especially the later, We have clerks and checkusers but the whole caseload of SPI isn't supposed to rest on their shoulders alone. SPI investigations is role-based and the primary shortage is the patrolling admins that are to review the cases. Those do not come from wihin the established SPI dept. (clerks & CUs) but rather from the admin community at large. It is also worth noting that non-admin editors which patrol cases can and sometimes do help as well.

If you would like to raise the question with the folks involved in SPI then post here and you may get other viewpoints. You may want to link to this thread.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 13:53, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I don't file SPI's very often so I don't have a good feel for how things go there. Your explanation helps and I may use the link provided to just to give them an idea how it looks to an outsider when I have more time. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 17:58, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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