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**This is for people whose names we have as "J. B. Doe" or "William F. Smith", and where we don't yet have the expansion of their initials. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 09:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
**This is for people whose names we have as "J. B. Doe" or "William F. Smith", and where we don't yet have the expansion of their initials. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 09:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
***Leaning '''Delete'''. Just because you have a person's initial, does not mean that there is a name to go with it. If the inclusion criteria is that an article uses initials, then this should go. Now if we know the there is a name behind the initial, then maybe this is useful. But if you don't know the name, how do we know it exists? Given this, the category is really not needed in its current form. I think the goal is reasonable, bBut the current inclusion logic is flawed and probably subjective. [[User:Vegaswikian1|Vegaswikian1]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian1|talk]]) 02:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
***Leaning '''Delete'''. Just because you have a person's initial, does not mean that there is a name to go with it. If the inclusion criteria is that an article uses initials, then this should go. Now if we know the there is a name behind the initial, then maybe this is useful. But if you don't know the name, how do we know it exists? Given this, the category is really not needed in its current form. I think the goal is reasonable, bBut the current inclusion logic is flawed and probably subjective. [[User:Vegaswikian1|Vegaswikian1]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian1|talk]]) 02:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
****We generally know that such a name exists by the presence of an initial. Do you have an example of a person who provably has an initial which does ''not'' stand for a name? Even if there are such people, they're likely to form a statistically insignificant part of the population <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 08:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
*Hide per nom. Maintenance categories like this can be found easily without adding to category clutter. - [[User:EurekaLott|Eureka Lott]] 00:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
*Hide per nom. Maintenance categories like this can be found easily without adding to category clutter. - [[User:EurekaLott|Eureka Lott]] 00:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
**Oh. This has been a hidden category since 2010, so all that needs to be done is move the category from talk pages to article pages. That would be consistent with most of the other maintenance categories in [[:Category:Wikipedia articles with missing information]] - [[User:EurekaLott|Eureka Lott]] 03:42, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
**Oh. This has been a hidden category since 2010, so all that needs to be done is move the category from talk pages to article pages. That would be consistent with most of the other maintenance categories in [[:Category:Wikipedia articles with missing information]] - [[User:EurekaLott|Eureka Lott]] 03:42, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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September 8

Category:Nation of Yahweh

Nominator's rationale: category is poorly populated, covers a very small org., for which the category Black Hebrew Israelites is adequate. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category Ministry of of Foreign Affairs and Trade (Ireland)

Video games based on animation

  • Nominator's rationaile: Third in an ongoing series to standardise the "Works based on Foo" tree on "Foo based on Bar" (X of Y) format, following the pattern established by the tree Works based on Foo > Video games based on Foo. As mentioned in the previous discussions here and here that passed for renaming their espective trees, the X of Y format is clearer, less ambiguous, and follows the standard. Note that this is an ongoing project, that due to its size is being conducted one tree at a time, and will result in all the "Works based on Foo" tree being in the "Foo based on Bar" format when complete, establishing a clear and preferred standardisation. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:00, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Disintegration Records artists

Nominator's rationale: Delete There's no article about this record label and no articles for the artists on its roster with the exception of Greg MacPherson who actually owns the label. As such, a category about Disintegration Records artists is really putting the cart before the horse. Pichpich (talk) 16:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Missing middle or first names

Nominator's rationale: This category's documentation says "Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 21#Category:Missing middle or first names, the category tag is now on the Talk: page for the article rather than on the article page itself." However, Categories like those in the Category:Year of birth missing family are used on articles, but hidden. I suggest we do the same for this category (and others like it?) for consistency, and for ease of addition. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Non-political regions of Belgium

Nominator's rationale: Rename We usually try to avoid "not-based" category names. I propose following the model of Category:Geographical, historical and cultural regions of France which is a little long but has a wide scope that truly corresponds to the current content of the category. The alternative would be Category:Historical regions in Belgium (following Category:Historical regions by country) but that would be a much narrower scope and the category would have to be stripped of some of its content. Pichpich (talk) 15:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Campbell, Missouri

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. All categories have 3 or less entries ...William 13:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Fairway, Kansas

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT . All categories have 3 or less entries ...William 12:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal by country

Nominator's rationale: Rename. As someone has decided to add the continents as an additional layer, which is fine, and consequently moving all country-specific categories out of this one, the nominated category needs to be renamed to reflect what its current content are. (Perhaps should we even keep the by country category in order to have all the country-specific categories go directly into that. Still, it can be re-created as needed at a later time.) __meco (talk) 11:56, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • do not rename This is premature. There are only two by-continent sub-categories here: Europe and Oceania. "Latin America' is not a continent, but a cultural area. No subcats for Asia, Africa, South America. Hmains (talk) 02:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, you are right. I kinda missed those. Nevertheless the current order where continents and sovereign countries are placed side by side as "countries" still is untenable. __meco (talk) 09:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Netherlands–Pakistan Relations

Category:Soviet–German War

Nominator's rationale: Merge. C2D, Soviet–German War redirects to Eastern Front (World War II) and actually was not some separate war. Brandmeistertalk 10:28, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Presidencies of the United States

Nominator's rationale: Completely redundant. What's the inherent difference between the presidencies of Theodore Roosevelt and James K. Polk? Nevertheless, Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt is in Presidencies of the United States, while Category:Presidency of James K. Polk is in United States presidential administrations. Presidencies is currently the parent for administrations, so normally I'd propose upmerging administrations into presidencies, but the "administrations" name is better ("presidencies", plural, is something more appropriate for things like the Bombay Presidency), so a downmerge seems more appropriate here. Nevertheless, I'm open to upmerging: the important thing is that this redundancy be removed. Nyttend (talk) 03:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Kawakawa

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. Kawakawa has less than 1500 people and Russell less than 1000 so these categories will stay small. It makes more sense to upmerge to the wider scope. Pichpich (talk) 00:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]