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I have requested that [[UEFA Euro 1996]] be semi-protected for at least a week. Hopefully this will discourage our anonymous friend from making changes to the Soviet Union/Russia record again. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 17:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC) |
I have requested that [[UEFA Euro 1996]] be semi-protected for at least a week. Hopefully this will discourage our anonymous friend from making changes to the Soviet Union/Russia record again. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 17:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC) |
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:Good thing! Cheers, [[User:Mentoz86|Mentoz86]] ([[User talk:Mentoz86#top|talk]]) 17:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC) |
:Good thing! Cheers, [[User:Mentoz86|Mentoz86]] ([[User talk:Mentoz86#top|talk]]) 17:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC) |
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sorry i speak armenian and russian fluent but my english not that good why you change my edit it was correct |
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==DYK for Abdurahim Laajab== |
==DYK for Abdurahim Laajab== |
Revision as of 20:43, 19 October 2012
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I have requested that UEFA Euro 1996 be semi-protected for at least a week. Hopefully this will discourage our anonymous friend from making changes to the Soviet Union/Russia record again. – PeeJay 17:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Good thing! Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 17:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
sorry i speak armenian and russian fluent but my english not that good why you change my edit it was correct
DYK for Abdurahim Laajab
On 10 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Abdurahim Laajab, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Abdurahim Laajab is one of the key players at the Norway national futsal team? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Abdurahim Laajab. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Orlady (talk) 00:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Harald Aabrekk
Hi. Just to let you know I've finished the copy edit of Harald Aabrekk that you requested. I hope it's OK. Rgds, --Stfg (talk) 13:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Veton Berisha
On 14 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Veton Berisha, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Valon and Veton Berisha in 2011 became the first brothers to start a match together for Viking FK in 22 years since Jan and Egil Fjetland started the 1989 Norwegian Football Cup final? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Veton Berisha. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Jan Fjetland
On 14 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jan Fjetland, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Valon and Veton Berisha in 2011 became the first brothers to start a match together for Viking FK in 22 years since Jan and Egil Fjetland started the 1989 Norwegian Football Cup final? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Egil Fjetland
On 14 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Egil Fjetland, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Valon and Veton Berisha in 2011 became the first brothers to start a match together for Viking FK in 22 years since Jan and Egil Fjetland started the 1989 Norwegian Football Cup final? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Untitled
why can't cup matches be included. there appearances count in league matches so why not include it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daloneill98 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
someone changed raheem sterlings page so if yoi want to make sure i did it right. go ahead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daloneill98 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Omar Elabdellaoui
On 16 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Omar Elabdellaoui, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Manchester City's Omar Elabdellaoui did not want to go on loan to football team Strømsgodset in 2012 because of the artificial turf at Marienlyst Stadion? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Omar Elabdellaoui. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Please comment on DYK prep area issue
Hi. As an active participant in DYK discussion, if you have a minute, can you drop by Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Number of Olympic hooks per day? and offer an opinion on how to address this? I'd rather get it dealt with sooner rather than later as I feel like the sheer volume will require a discussion as all people involved in building prep areas will need to be aware of whatever decision is reached. Thanks. --LauraHale (talk) 21:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Erik Huseklepp
Erik Huseklepp has signed for SK Brann Source Please revert your changes again thanks. Skyblueshaun (talk) 22:32, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Kent Bergersen
On 1 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kent Bergersen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norwegian footballer Kent Bergersen left the Greek club Panionios G.S.S. because the club didn't pay his salary? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kent Bergersen. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi there. I have not been in touch for a while. Wondering if you would like to make any informal views/comments on my Club Notability (Draft) which is very much work in progress. I know I will get "shot down" by some but I feel it is worthwhile trying to properly address Club Notability. Kind regards. League Octopus (League Octopus 12:39, 8 August 2012 (UTC))
Samaantharangal
Hey. With respect to your comments for DYK, I have changed the article. You may want to take a look at the DYK nomination again. - Vivvt • (Talk) 11:19, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Ottla
Thanks for looking. Gerda proposed ALT2, which I think is better. Can you go verify it's ok? Thanks. PumpkinSky talk 19:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Martin Høyem
On 22 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Martin Høyem, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Molde FK did not want to send Martin Høyem on loan to Hønefoss BK, because the two clubs were scheduled to meet in the semi-final of the 2005 Norwegian Football Cup? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Martin Høyem. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi there MENTOZ, AL from Portugal here,
just had a look at the player article's talkpage, and all i can say is that you are 200% correct, my bad. So, i think he should have the RUSSIAN FOOTBALLERS category inserted but, out of respect for your work, i'll leave it to your judgement.
Keep up the great work, happy week - --AL (talk) 17:47, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'll leave the article without the Category:Russian footballers, as he was never really Russian. in your examples (Catanha and Liédson) it was Brazilians who moved to Europe after growing up. Afterall, Demidov moved to Norway at the age of 3, and lived most of his life there, so he was "always" Norwegian, the two Brazilians were Brazilian before they changed nationality. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed i see i was mistaken. Cheers! --AL (talk) 22:57, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Sten Grytebust
Hello! Your submission of Sten Grytebust at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 21:50, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Sten Grytebust
On 31 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sten Grytebust, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that when Sten Grytebust was selected for the Norway national under-23 football team, he didn't know that such a team existed? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sten Grytebust. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Magnar Ødegaard
On 4 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Magnar Ødegaard, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Sarpsborg 08 rejected Brescia's attempt to get Magnar Ødegaard on a trial, because it was in the middle of the Norwegian football season? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Magnar Ødegaard. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Joshua Gatt
My friend, I've already added the references in the article. Thanks for the alert. --SirEdimon (talk) 22:04, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
template:movenotice and milti-moves
{{movenotice}} is depreciated and you do not need to add it to multi-move articles because the bot does it automatically see for example see talk:List of European Cup and UEFA Champions League winners#Move discussion in progress -- PBS (talk) 18:13, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- You are talking to me like I'm in 10 year old who did something wrong - I just did what was written on WP:RM, that "someone" removed the text about the move-notice after I started the RM isn't my fault is it? I want as many participants in the requested move as possible, not only those who have the 13 pages on the watchlist and see that the talk-page changes, so I'm re-adding those movenotices. Mentoz86 (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
WP:FPL - player notability
Hi, I wondered if you were planning to take forward your suggested way of coming up with an improved way of determining footballer notability, as there did seem to be broad support for the principle, albeit it can be very difficult to get agreement on the detail. I'm not sure if you're aware of the last time changes were discussed at a sub-page, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability of footballers. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 10:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes I am planning to take it forward when I have the time, which I hope will be within the next three weeks. And no, I wasn't aware of the previous discussion, thanks for letting me know. I'll read it through. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 11:20, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the information! So, on RSSSF.no there is an error? Because Mohn is in the starting line, according to the site. --Roby Fabulous (talk) 11:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- No, it's not an error - Fram Larvik didn't play in the final (even though the final was played in Larvik) Odd met Frigg in that final, and Mohn played at Frigg's team. The reason I found out, is because I expanded Mohn's article today - you might want to check it out. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:09, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
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DYK for Ragnar Hvidsten
On 17 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ragnar Hvidsten, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ragnar Hvidsten was the first Norwegian to play in the FA Amateur Cup? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ragnar Hvidsten. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
I have updated and expanded this per your request at WP:Footy. I have resubmitted as i assume i have to do as I'm rather unfamiliar with AFC. I would appreciate if you take a look.Blethering Scot 21:23, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Awesome. I felt bad about that submission, as I'm not a regular at AfC and thought that other reviewers might had accepted it, but after your improvements I could easily accept it. I even nominated it for DYK, the nomination-page can be seen here. Mentoz86 (talk) 22:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- No problem at all.Blethering Scot 23:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Josh Falkingham
Hello! Your submission of Josh Falkingham at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Kosm1fent 18:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
Re: The third rule.
Ya, I always forget. I dont usually make AfDs, its only when I do my usual inspection of the Indian football articles. I will try my best to remember for next time. Cheers mate. :) --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 02:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I am nearing the completion of my work on the Club Notability Tables. Your views on the work to date would be appreciated - in particular any advice on the removal of any obvious gremlins. I will be creating a Miscellaneous section in the tables where Kosovo, North Cyprus etc can be considered. I also propose to move non-FIFA members such as Niue to this section. There may be issues that you do not wish to raise at the moment and I respect that you may hold back some comments to the formal consultation. Any advice on how to conduct a WP consulation would be appreciated. I am sending this communication to Number 57, GiantSnowman, Kosm1fent and Mentoz86. Kind regards League Octopus (League Octopus 13:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC))
- Sorry for not responding to your previous comment, I forgot all about it. I'll have a look at the table one of the next days. But where do you want the feedback? Mentoz86 (talk) 10:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Suggest leave your comments on my Talk page. Many thanks. League Octopus (League Octopus 12:52, 21 September 2012 (UTC))
- Please note that I have now drawn attention to the Club Notability Tables (and Test) at WT:FOOTY. Comments can now be left on the essay's Talk page. Kind regards. League Octopus (League Octopus 19:34, 24 September 2012 (UTC))
- Suggest leave your comments on my Talk page. Many thanks. League Octopus (League Octopus 12:52, 21 September 2012 (UTC))
Promotion of Marcus A. Smith
With regards to these two edits ([1] & [2]), could your explain your reasoning for this promotion? I realize as the article's primary contributor I am biased, but by most objective standards an article with 45K characters of readable prose sourced to good quality academic sources combined with a professional quality portrait is considered a strong candidate for a lead slot. Additionally, rule N8 at WP:DYKNN says, "since only one picture can be featured per update, try to leave the good picture hooks behind for another update if you possibly can." As BlueMoonset had place a tick mark on nomination less than 24 hours prior to your action, the prep set you worked on was the first possible time the nomination could be considered for promotion. A check of Template talk:Did you know shows there were a variety of other approved hooks available at the time of your action. What was the rush to promote this hook? Finally, the hook has a strong geographical association (Arizona). What was the logic in choosing to place this hook in a set that will run, by Arizona time, in the middle of the night? --Allen3 talk 14:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I can :) When I choose pictures when building sets, I choose the best pictures not the best articles. (I might start to do otherwise, but I hasn't really thought of it that way) On average, when building a prep-area, I usually have three hooks with pictures and can obviously only choose one of them. In this case, the lead spot was already taken and there were five empty spots, and my reasoning for promoting the hooks I promoted, was to select a variety of hooks. When I selected hooks this time, I left behind three pictures (again, I usually judge the picture, not the article) that I considered better then yours. In all sets there should be about 50% US-related hooks, that makes it hard to not have a US-related hook hit the main-page during the night, though I might try to get an eastern-hook the next time I build a set that will hit the main-page at 08:00 server-time. But even though you might be a little biased in this case, I appreciate the feedback. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 15:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Panajotis Dimitriadis
On 23 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Panajotis Dimitriadis, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that even though Panajotis Dimitriadis is a midfielder, his play as a centre back got him on TV2's list as one of the five best players in the 2012 Norwegian First Division? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Panajotis Dimitriadis. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Jarl André Storbæk
On 23 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jarl André Storbæk, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norway international footballer Jarl André Storbæk captained Strømsgodset in his first match for the club? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jarl André Storbæk. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Yngvadottir (talk) 21:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Use of information from other language wikipedia articles?
Another editor has recently attacked me for this as well as other edits related to year of birth in certain articles. He has also accused me of creating lots of articles on unnotable people, even though most of the articles I have created in the last month of so that have been put up for deletion survived the initial attempts at deletion. Also most articles I have created over the last few months have been on people who are or were members of state legislatures, and this meets the notability requirements. The editor seems to like to go on massive attacks on just about everything I do and I find it quite frustrating. I am not sure what I should do about it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- You should try to talk to him, for instance dispute resolution, and if you feel that the "massive attacks" continues you should report it at WP:ANI. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Norwegian stubs
Works in progress that I was actually about to come and ask for help with. They all meet NFOOTBALL - some by some distance - so assumptions that I would have !voted 'delete' in an AfD had I not been the creator are quite wrong. GiantSnowman 09:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've !voted 'delete' on FPL/international players with one appearance on numerous occasions - but that is because sources were unavailable and had been for a number of years. The objective of NFOOTBALL is to give breathing space i.e. it is assumed that a player in a FPL will meet have received enough coverage to meet GNG, and time should be allowed for that. GiantSnowman 09:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I would like to heartily thank you for your review. Best regards! Bahavd Gita (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Your welcome! Mentoz86 (talk) 10:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Josh Falkingham
On 27 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Josh Falkingham, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Josh Falkingham scored a goal during his first match in the Scottish Football League First Division? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Josh Falkingham. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Magnus Sylling Olsen
On 28 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Magnus Sylling Olsen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Magnus Sylling Olsen's first goal in Tippeligaen was named the best goal of the round? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Magnus Sylling Olsen. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Yngvadottir (talk) 00:03, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Adminship?
Hello Mentoz86! I've noticed your contributions at AfD and on Scandinavian articles, and I am thoroughly impressed. Would you consider running for adminship? I think you would make a great administrator. — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 04:12, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it. I've actually thought about it, and figured out that even though I might want to be an admin at some point, I think it's too early for me. Besides 50% of the "prolific" Norwegians Wikipedian are administrators, so we might need some that aren't. :) Mentoz86 (talk) 10:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Michael Jamtfall
On 1 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Michael Jamtfall, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norwegian footballer Michael Jamtfall retired at the age of 25? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Jamtfall. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
I completely missed your comments on my DYK nomination a couple days ago. Apologies for that. I have left clarifying comments for you to review when able. Thanks, Resolute 02:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
- No problem, I should have left a message on your talk-page. --Mentoz86 (talk) 10:20, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Kristiansund BK
On 1 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kristiansund BK, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norwegian football club Kristiansund BK was founded in 2003 by local rivals Clausenengen FK and Kristiansund FK? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kristiansund BK. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
Acknowledged!
Thank you for your greetings. I really appreciate it. I made this account to update those football players' pages that are not updated regularly, especially those who are playing in Dutch Eredivisie. I will surely let you know if I ever need your assistance, as I have just come abroad, while you are editing pages for quite some time. Thanks and regards, Mharisansari (talk) 11:44, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Lost time
Hi there MENTOZ, AL "here",
good intentions here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:41.238.10.161), but don't waste anymore of your time with this person. Amongst other things, has the habit of inserting stubs in articles which are not by a mile (ex. Pascal Cygan, Carlos Diogo), or completely screwing up boxes with the favorite move being changing player position (Miguel Ángel Riau).
Regards, keep it up - --AL (talk) 12:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- In Diogo, he also "made love" to the player position, now he's a CENTRAL DEFENDER! Of course this is 100% vandalism! --AL (talk) 12:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: List of English football transfers 2001–02
Hello Mentoz86. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of List of English football transfers 2001–02, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Article was already de-PRODded. Try WP:AfD if you want to delete it. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:17, 13 October 2012 (UTC)