Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger

Treat his children the same

I am not sure whether it a appropriate to mention his children in the lead or later in the article. However, when his four children with his wife are mentioned somewhere in the article, his fifth child with their long time housekeeper should also be mentioned in the same place. It is a mistake to either underemphasize or overemphasize this other child. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think the child born out of wedlock should be mentioned, but not in the lead section. The lead section may refer to his children with his current wife. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 19:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

When we discuss his children, please explain why you think we should we discuss one in a less prominent fashion than the other four? He has admitted paternity and has a relationship with this child, after all. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:28, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I think that would be because we write biographies in a conservative fashion. I suggest keeping information about his children out of the lead section, or else simply mention them as a fact without referring to whether they were born out of wedlock. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 13:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

1. I am inclined to agree that the children should be not be placed in a hierarchy derived from the mother. That said, perhaps the size of the place that the child occupies in the father's life, at least as relates to the public interest, should inform their representation in the father's bio. E.g. if a child is given up for adoption, or if the father donates sperm and the child locates the father.
2. Notwithstanding the foregoing, there is a very clear change along these lines that I think should be made immediately.
   • The parenthesized statement that the "illegitimate" child's birthday is the day after the release of the book, should be removed. Of what import is this fact?
   • If it is not removed, it shouldn't at least be placed in parentheses.
   • If it is not removed, the word "illegitimate" should be removed. There is nothing illegitimate about the child. There is no law against fathering a child with someone you're not married to. The child is just a child. It appears that this sentence is here simply to take another opportunity to point out that the man fathered a child out of wedlock; this is accomplished elsewhere in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waxmat (talk • contribs) 02:58, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I agree that illegitimate as a term to describe this child should be removed. It is an archaic and frankly, offensive, way of referring to children who result from the actions of their parents, whether we condone the behavior of the adults or not, as the case may be. I'm also not sure what relevance this is to the publication of the memoir. It seems unnecessary to note in this section of the article. Teemcee (talk) 04:01, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Split proposal

I think articles on A.S the actor and A.S the bobybuilder should be split off as subarticles, while this one stays as a summary article. We've already got Political career of Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I think we need articles like this to dilute this article of information. This article is trying to do to much and the result is rather confusing...--Coin945 (talk) 01:21, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Citations for Demolition Man mention

I can't be arsed to log in or make an account or whatever. Here's some info, do with it what you like. This is easily one of the most well-referenced scenes in the past 30 years of film.

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/schwarzenegger-constitutional-amendment-hatched/ This one is interesting because not only does it mention the 1993 reference, but it also talks about Hatch's proposed real amendment to let the Governator become Prezinator. But if you want to leave it as just a bit of trivia, I suggest http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106697/trivia but there are literally thousands of other mentions of it.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=75;t=000942;p=1 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106697/quotes http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/171104demolitionman.htm (contains the scene as embedded video, might be loud) http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2003/08/08/president-arnold-schwarzenegger.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPBrt-mdNmQ (the clip in the 1st link again)

Oh... here's an interesting one... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition_Man_%28film%29#Setting Ironically, there's no citation in that article.

http://invertedsoapbox.com/2010/08/10/the-demolition-man-prophecy/

Ok, this list could go on all day. That should be plenty. Grab one you like and cite it. However, I recommend that you point out in that section of the article that the 61st Amendment mentioned in the film is entirely fictional. There are only 27 Amendments (so far) to the federal constitution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.33.136 (talk) 13:49, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Which language was _Total Recall_ written in?

The new book, Total Recall, was published simultaneously in English and German. Which language was it initially written in? Michael Hardy (talk) 04:35, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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