For those cases, it's in the comment that those actions consist in moving content to subpage. But after some research, i'm totally unable to see where it can have been put. I understand those are hold post (but i've seen this appen else where too). So i was wandering if it is a simple bad habit naming your comment, or if those are simply misleading of what is truly appening (like a simple deletion of content). So please, explain yourself (or just be more specific in your comment). I making quite some researchs on that kind of edits, so a little explanation of your proceding will be welcome. Have a nice day. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MCMoineau|MCMoineau]] ([[User talk:MCMoineau|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MCMoineau|contribs]]) 20:03, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
For those cases, it's in the comment that those actions consist in moving content to subpage. But after some research, i'm totally unable to see where it can have been put. I understand those are hold post (but i've seen this append else where too). So i was wandering if it is a simple bad habit naming your comment, or if those are simply misleading of what is truly appening (like a simple deletion of content). So please, explain yourself (or just be more specific in your comment). I making quite some researchs on that kind of edits, so a little explanation of your proceeding will be welcome. Have a nice day. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MCMoineau|MCMoineau]] ([[User talk:MCMoineau|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MCMoineau|contribs]]) 20:03, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Can you give more details. Maybe links. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
::Can you give more details. Maybe links. [[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
::You always can use de diff app, changing only the unique id. Here's a example with my first link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaria&diff=prev&oldid=403331487 (Note that the title of the article doesn't have to be legit, only the edit ID will be considered). This example is a good one, because your modification invoke 4 differents places where you should have put the removed content. Yet, there's no trace in any of them.
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Hi,
As I've noted on the Migraine talk page, I'm happy to see the link go somewhere else. What I don't approve of is people playing editor simply by taking down links because they don't approve of the website. The information in the article is 100% accurate. Please take the time to check such things before you react based purely on personality. This is the reason why the number of genuine Wikipedia editors are declining. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlepils (talk • contribs) 03:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But this source is just one of the sources. Fda is considered as an ideal source, yet their clearance of cs gel didn't find its way into the article. And so are 6 pubmed publications i have submitted. Zad said first two are primary, third is secondary and didn't comment upon the other 3. Isn't a balanced article shall incorporate all views? Ryanspir (talk) 15:59, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty sure Ryan's talking about this 2009 FDAEPA approval for American Biotech Labs' silver-containing "ASAP-AGX-32" surface disinfectant product, which has been attempted to be used several times at the article to support content like, "Liquid sprays containing silver nanoparticles may be used as a hard-surface disinfectant." The FDAEPA approval is for this one product only and does not mention "nanoparticles." The objection has been that a single product's FDAEPA approval should not be used to make a general statement like that. Zad6816:16, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All the statements in that FDAEPA document are about "this product" ASAP-AGX-32. Ryan will have to confirm if this is the document he's talking about. Zad6816:31, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Zad is mistaken as it often happens when he is discussing with me. :) agx product is approved by epa, not fda. I wasn't refering to it though. I was refering to the fda cleared gel which is 24 ppm. The info and links to fda are on the article's talk page. but since zad is here, i would like to ask him what about the other 3 pubmed studies out of 6 to which he didn't comment yet. Ryanspir (talk) 16:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Woops, sorry about that, the AGX product document is indeed the EPA not FDA. As Doc said, you need to provide the link. Zad6816:41, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
the links
the link to the fda and news were on a talk page, but especially kind editor removed them in order to not corrupt the minds of the editors. Search for fda approval/clearance asap gel for wound care on fda.gov and in the news. Its not about what i wish to support with it. I just would like it to be summarized per wiki policy in the article. Ryanspir (talk) 17:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Doc, I'm going to expand "AIDS" in Persian Wikipedia and probably make it FA. Since there are a few Farsi RS about AIDS, I have to translate the English article with all the citations. But first of all I must ascertain whether the citations are really correct or not, it means that I should check all of the sources and verify its contents.I don't know how I can access to the journals, and most of the references are journals, would you please guide me how to access them? Regards ●MehranDebate● 14:13, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I rewrote my question on Ocaasi talk page. I saw your link and it sounds surprising for me. In case of HIV/AIDS, I almost translated the whole article and just about 30% of it has remained. In fact, the translating process is not difficult as much as citing is. Anyway I would be very happy if I can do any contributions to this project. I'll start my contributing soon after I finished the HIV/AIDS. Thank you very much for your guidance ●MehranDebate● 19:00, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I sent you an email. You can send me that bunch of content and I'll submit them in Persian Wikipedia.
P.S: Did you participate in writing HIV/AIDS and make it GA? Or do you know who wrote the references of the article? It's enough for me if I know it has been written by a reliable person and I won't verify the citations if I know that they're really correct.
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Would you like voluntarily revert your last revert? I'll wait a bit to let you reply before submitting report to Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring (new section). Ryanspir (talk) 17:03, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
::Hey Ryan. I am currently blocked and thus unable. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have followed: "You must notify any user you report. You may use { {subst:an3-notice} } to do so." That's what I did. Sorry if I did something wrong, but I'm still waiting for your reply, shall I report or you will undo? Ryanspir (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure A couple of things. One is that their is consensus for my reverts here [1] with three editors supporting the current situation and just you opposing. One typically needs consensus to change the article not to keep it the way it is.
The exact line is "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period".[2] I appreciate the heads up as it appears we where coming close. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Thanks for the heads up again. The thing is Wikipedia is based on consensus. And you have NO consensus for your change. But I shall leave this to someone else. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:49, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. You might remember I posted on Ryanspir's talk page about the other editors leaving us to it for a bit. That ... basically hasn't happened, and you're the only one not actively participating. I'm not saying you have to come back, if you'd rather stay out of it that's fne, but if my comment was the only reason you're staying away, then please come back and give some input. (I think we're making a little progress - baby steps.) CarrieVS (talk) 12:00, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Kindly take a look at the Issue section in my talk page. Shall I next time reply on your talk page as your signature suggests? Thank you. Ryanspir (talk) 19:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes everything but the rhythm puzzles. Many thanks for taking this on :-) Wow 15 Gbs. Other organizations really do love collaborating with Wikipedia. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 00:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In case you missed above message....just a friendly reminder. I need a response. If its fine, I can begin upload. I can't clean them up much more.Smallman12q (talk) 22:58, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Nevertheless your edits reduced rather than added to the utility of the article hypertension. Editing guidelines that have that effect are questionable. The "Well" blog on the The New York Times is an excellent source, and the book by Mann is appropriate further reading. User:Fred BauderTalk17:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Would disagree. Even the review you use is a little old. We have some excellent recent guidelines on the management of hypertension. We should be using those more. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:27, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If there are some excellent recent guidelines on the management of hypertension why did the article before I edited it lack the basic information I added? Do the guidelines you suggest contain this information? What is the reason for low quality? User:Fred BauderTalk13:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also what is it you disagree with and why? For example, can you give a good reason why Mann's book is not appropriate further reading. Why is a blog by medical writer which cites a review not an appropriate source? By the way, making trouble over New York Times articles disrupts my editing routine which nearly always begins with a NYT's article of some sort. BTW I signed up for the Tripdatabase and found some useful material. User:Fred BauderTalk14:23, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We do not use any blogs as references as they are just not reliable enough. And why would we link to that book? I am not sure what it has going for it. I have seen many errors in the popular press and all these need to be replaced by better quality sources. Often the popular press is just a copy and pasted version of Wikipedia :-) Jacob updated the reference you provided further. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Doc. Consensus was reached to remove the disputed text "Silver preps deliver inactive metallic silver ions". I hope you will read the discussion in Talk (Section : Silver colloids, ions, ingestion and antibacterial properties) particulary Desotos's final para that provides greater detail about the reference. Cheers. Blakebeau (talk) 00:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't know how to link to a Talk section. I'll try and find out, but in the meantime here's Desoto's comment about the reference...
"I have now read the article in full ("So what if you are Blue"). The article is, indeed, about wound dressings, but in the introduction the authors make the quote about CS that we have in the article. They do not reference the statement, and there is no information in the article to back it up. In addition, the article is really a case report and is labeled as such by the journal. My opinion is that this is a very very weak source, the quotation is in the Introduction section, the article is a primary source (Case Study), and the first author is a medical student (not that there is anything wrong with that) and the citation lists only 18 sources. Given these reservations, I suggest that we delete the quote and reference.Desoto10 (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
Blakebeau (talk) 01:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
References
James, thank you for the advice on identifying reliable sources, specifically for medical pages. I understand why these references require additional scrutiny, thanks for your guidance OscarK878 (talk) 09:21, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think if I would say about that to you few years ago and provide some 10 articles from PUBmed you wouldn't accept it, and you would say that microbiome and anything which uses this principle for a cure is a quackery. But we are not in the time of rapid change. I bet they didn't teach in the medical school about Microiome, especially in the way it's introduced in the above mentioned links.
I'm not directly connecting it to colloidal silver (silver nanoparticles) of course. But I just want to say, that some respectable scientists had written that it's "a new vector in antimicrobials". Please let me know if you would like pubmed links to the articles saying that.
About Silver nanoparticles and Colloidal silver there is actually a very slight difference, I'll post about it on the talk page. However in short, the difference is as much as ciprofloxacin and CIPROFLOXACIN HYDROCHLORIDE. Which is practically the same. Using scientific language we may use the second term, while in common practice we would use the first term. Colloidal silver is silver nanoparticles in a water. Water is obviously inactive. Sometimes they use more scientific term "agnp". Example is this link: http://www.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB72129214.htm. And this www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22958173. Ryanspir (talk) 14:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for contacting me on this. Although I handle quite a bit of translation, medicine is not my field. Sorry. Good luck with your project. --Ipigott (talk) 22:46, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
due to the fact "genital warts" is uneditable, I edited "cervical cancer" to make a very important point and raise some awareness to people who would do some research on cervical cancer online.
you deleted my edit, why?
Thank you for deleting my post and now people don't know that even if you have all the physical protection in sexual acts, you would still catch genital warts and herpes.
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Hey Jmh, do you by chance have access to this article? I asked OhanaUnited but I haven't heard back (granted, it hasn't been long but the sooner the better). Drug-induced gynecomastia: an evidence-based review. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22862307 Expert Opinion on Drug Safety 11(5) 779-795 doi: 10.1517/14740338.2012.712109
Sometime in your edits of January 28th to cataract, your last sentence in 'Medications' became disconnected. Do you think you could have a look at it sometime? I would edit it but I'm not completely sure of your intention. Regards. --Mdscottis (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am setting up a wiki based documentation for my metatextbook of medicine and my medline&more ultrasearchengine. I am in lag of tagging about 10k items and all 2012+ items.
Thematical linkouts would be appreciated - to my preformatted review collections and/or my pre-formatted pubmed search term expressions as exemplified in that documentation at 04 feb 2013. And as a source of selected papers, of course, too :))))
Yours sincerely - Ossip Groth
Indeed, there is a major problem in medicine which I can understand as a german and which is of utmost importance to my collegues from romania, bulgaria and so on - they dont understand english, so they are not able to formulate pubmed search terms. I recently wanted a paper from a chinese server - i couldnt even registrate to use it.
Hey James, I took a look but I'm frankly not sure how this integrates with Wikipedia, WPMED or WPMEDF. Maybe Ossip can clarify, because I'm not clear on the purpose our how we would help. Cheers, Ocaasit | c19:26, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that it's very much a work in progress, but the goal seems to be a metasearch tool for publications on medical subjects. It doesn't yet seem to have hooks to use INNs, ICD codes, MeSH, or similar headings, which would seem to be an obvious way to reduce language dependencies. The English-language introduction page could clearly benefit from some copyedits, but he's got some good ideas that will be helpful in identifying accessible high-quality reference materials. Perhaps he could get some help from the Translators Without Borders? I'm sure Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange and its other-language equivalents could be of some assistance in assessing and commenting on the tools. LeadSongDogcome howl!20:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I Jmh649, i got a question on your way of moving content. First of all, here's few exemple of what i'm talking about (by edits id:
-403331487
-403332145
-403332304
For those cases, it's in the comment that those actions consist in moving content to subpage. But after some research, i'm totally unable to see where it can have been put. I understand those are hold post (but i've seen this append else where too). So i was wandering if it is a simple bad habit naming your comment, or if those are simply misleading of what is truly appening (like a simple deletion of content). So please, explain yourself (or just be more specific in your comment). I making quite some researchs on that kind of edits, so a little explanation of your proceeding will be welcome. Have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MCMoineau (talk • contribs) 20:03, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You always can use de diff app, changing only the unique id. Here's a example with my first link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaria&diff=prev&oldid=403331487 (Note that the title of the article doesn't have to be legit, only the edit ID will be considered). This example is a good one, because your modification invoke 4 differents places where you should have put the removed content. Yet, there's no trace in any of them.
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