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Gorton, Summersgill

Cbl62, I found a couple more identity cases with early college football coaches:

H. T. Collier (American football coach at Georgia Tech) and H. T. Collier (American football coach at Tulane)...same guy? That would mean he coached both Georgia Tech and Tulane in 1899. Perhaps, he was a traveling/consultant-type coach, a la Pop Warner?

Frank Gorton coached football and basketball at Rutgers and VMI. The NCAA database has him coaching basketball at Otterbein in 1917–18. The Otterbein football media guide lists their coach in 1917 as "F. H. Goslon." Is this Frank Gorton?

Perhaps you have access to old newspaper articles that might clear this up? Thanks, oh, and nice work on all the Rutgers bios over the past few days. All the best, Jweiss11 (talk) 02:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I actually e-mailed some archives regarding Collier. Will see what I can get back. Probably is a match, though there's nothing concrete to prove it. – Connormah (talk) 02:52, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(moved from above) Here's the other one above that could use come clearing up as well, thanks in advance. :Hi Cbl, one more thing if you don't mind - could former Hillsdale coach Nate Duffy be the same person as Ignatius M. Duffy, former Alma coach? The yearbook says Nate Duffy was from Michigan. – Connormah (talk) 00:18, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

if the two Colliers are the same, he would have coached 2 teams to winless records (and outscored 325 to 5 in all games). Quite anrecord if it's the same guy. Cbl62 (talk) 07:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ga. Tech archives says their H.T. Collier was from Virginia and came in Oct. 1900. So they're probably a match, I think. They'll get back to me on sources. – Connormah (talk) 23:09, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They say it's from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Not sure if you'll be able to find anything explicitly saying they're (the Colliers) related, but they probably are. – Connormah (talk) 01:38, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For your mini-rescue of Blackton, Arkansas, and numerous other related efforts to head off confrontations that have had the potential to become "dark situations". Thanks for your good work in support of collegiality! Orlady (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Guy Murdock

On 16 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Guy Murdock, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Guy Murdock, the MVP of football's Chicago Fire, joined with the Winds after the Fire was extinguished? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Guy Murdock. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John C. B. Pendleton

On 16 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John C. B. Pendleton, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the earliest head coaches of the Rutgers Scarlet Knights football team include John C. B. Pendleton, Henry Van Hoevenberg, Alfred Ellet Hitchner, and Arthur P. Robinson, all four combining for a record of 12–33? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John C. B. Pendleton. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Henry Van Hoevenberg

On 16 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henry Van Hoevenberg, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the earliest head coaches of the Rutgers Scarlet Knights football team include John C. B. Pendleton, Henry Van Hoevenberg, Alfred Ellet Hitchner, and Arthur P. Robinson, all four combining for a record of 12–33? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Alfred Ellet Hitchner

On 16 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Alfred Ellet Hitchner, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the earliest head coaches of the Rutgers Scarlet Knights football team include John C. B. Pendleton, Henry Van Hoevenberg, Alfred Ellet Hitchner, and Arthur P. Robinson, all four combining for a record of 12–33? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:54, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Arthur P. Robinson

On 16 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Arthur P. Robinson, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the earliest head coaches of the Rutgers Scarlet Knights football team include John C. B. Pendleton, Henry Van Hoevenberg, Alfred Ellet Hitchner, and Arthur P. Robinson, all four combining for a record of 12–33? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:54, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Greg Morton

On 17 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Greg Morton, which you created or substantially expanded. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Greg Morton. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 02:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Cecil Pryor

On 18 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cecil Pryor, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bo Schembechler knew his 1969 team was no longer afraid of Ohio State when a fight the day before the game ended with Cecil Pryor yelling, "And we're gonna kick your ass tomorrow, too!"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cecil Pryor. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jim Betts (American football)

On 18 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jim Betts (American football), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Michigan quarterback Jim Betts persuaded Bo Schembechler in 1969 to relax his clean-shave policy by claiming that facial hair was part of the African-American players' "heritage"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jim Betts (American football). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 17:51, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Pete Newell (American football)

On 21 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pete Newell (American football), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bo Schembechler praised Pete Newell for traveling to Iowa with the 1969 Michigan football team rather than to a large antiwar rally "with the damn hippies where he really wanted to be"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pete Newell (American football). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Walt Downing

On 22 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Walt Downing, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Walt Downing, the seventh All-American center for Michigan, won a Super Bowl with the 1981 San Francisco 49ers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Walt Downing. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fred Julian

On 23 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fred Julian, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Fred Julian led Michigan in rushing in 1959 and led the New York Jets in interceptions in 1960? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fred Julian. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Carl Russ

On 24 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Carl Russ, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Carl Russ started as a walk-on and became the starting wide linebacker for Michigan football teams that had a record of 20–1–1? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carl Russ. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass 12:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mike Jolly

On 29 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mike Jolly, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mike Jolly was the starting weak side cornerback in 35 of 36 games for Michigan teams that played in two Rose Bowls and a Gator Bowl from 1977 to 1979? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mike Jolly. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

(X! · talk) · @269 · 12:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fritz Seyferth

On 4 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fritz Seyferth, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Fritz Seyferth joined the University of Michigan football team as a walk-on and became the third-leading scorer in the Big Ten Conference in 1970? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fritz Seyferth. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Arbcom case you might be interested in

I just filed a case regarding Doncram's editing behavior. Since you spoke up strongly for him in a recent AN/I discussion, I wanted to make sure you saw it. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 06:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. In the arbcom request, SarekOfVulcan has cited a recent edit by you to the Architects of the National Park Service article as evidence. I would welcome your reviewing that and providing your characterization of the same, if you are willing.

I replied to your relatively recent reply at Talk:Architects of the National Park Service about the Chattanooga and Chickamauga National Park item, too. Further, I note in history that you recently removed a number more items from the list. This is fodder for the arbcom apparently. I did ask at the Talk page for you to move items to the Talk page rather than simply removing them, because it would be relatively easy for you to do so in the process, while it takes more effort later, and in my judgment it would be worth remembering and being able to reconsider those removals later. On the Chattanooga one, although I agree with your removal in the end, I believe that finding the NRHP documentation and considering it was worthwhile, and easily could have led to our agreeing it should be restored. However I gather your judgment of the relative costs involved and of the likelihoods of restoration involved are different than mine, and I won't bring up this request again. Thanks. --do ncr am 20:34, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Still time to comment

There's still time to submit evidence in that Doncram arbitration case, if you have anything to say, and there are several more days for "workshop" discussion. I'm particularly concerned (on Doncram's behalf) to see that Doncram hasn't submitted anything yet. Maybe you can encourage him to do so... --Orlady (talk) 21:35, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Cbl, are you still willing to co-nominate me? If so, I am contemplating doing it at the end of January or beginning of February. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

arbitration case

Cbl, I noticed your comment and doncram's talk page. In fact, we can contribute "evidence" to the case at this stage. Below is the notice I received of it at my talk page. The original deadline was Jan. 17, but the date originally on my talk page was Jan. 24. Subsequently, doncram asked for and received an extension until Jan. 24. (There is clearly something wrong with my notice, because the date advances a day each day.) Lvklock (talk) 02:32, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Doncram. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Doncram/Evidence. Please add your evidence by October 20, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Doncram/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, (X! · talk) · @812 · 18:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Thanks

This user helped promote Bobby Lowe to good article status.

On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I would like to thank you for your editorial contributions to Bobby Lowe, which has recently become a GA. --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:52, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Frank Hudson (American football)

On 25 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frank Hudson (American football), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1898, Frank Hudson, a five-foot, three-inch quarterback from the Laguna Pueblo tribe, became the first Native American to be selected as an All-American football player? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frank Hudson (American football). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

KTC (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mayes McLain

On 28 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mayes McLain, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Cherokee Indian Mayes McLain held college football's single-season scoring record for more than 60 years and engaged in professional wrestling as the "Masked Manager"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mayes McLain. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Followup question

Cbl, can we be ready to kick off the RfA Friday evening, February 1? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:42, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Head's up: Secret wanted to push back the kick off until Sunday. He's fully engaged and doing his usual vulnerability background check on the candidate, and I want him to have all of the time he needs. I will ping you when he's ready to roll. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for William Fincke

On 31 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Fincke, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that William Fincke, an All-American quarterback at Yale in 1900, became a pacifist minister and founder of the Brookwood Labor College and Manumit School? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Fincke. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Lord Roem ~ (talk) 16:03, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Edward Bowditch

On 1 February 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Edward Bowditch, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Edward Bowditch was an All-American football player, aide-de-camp to John Pershing, and member of the 1922 commission that concluded that Filipinos were not yet ready for independence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edward Bowditch. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Walter Smith (American football)

On 2 February 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Walter Smith (American football), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Walter Smith, chief of staff of the U. S. Army's "All-American division" in the 1930s, was an actual All-American at West Point in 1900? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Walter Smith (American football). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Lord Roem ~ (talk) 08:02, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

/* Followup question */ followup the followup

Cbl, for several reasons of timing, Secret has pushed back the kickoff until tomorrow (Monday) night. You may want to coordinate the opening statements with him by email. Thanks again for your help and support in this. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:57, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Article

Hello! Your submission of Article at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:17, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nominations/1909 College Football All-America Team

You nominated three articles but linked just two pages that you reviewed; did you leave off a link, nominate one article too many, or something else? Nyttend (talk) 03:26, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

Gracias, senor. Your kinds words mean a great deal to me. Look forward to you showing me the fine points of being a good admin. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it did not end as we hoped, but hopefully you were not disappointed in me as candidate. In the aftermath, I'm trying to treat it as a positive learning experience. Live and learn. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:39, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Elmer Shwartz

There are still issues remaining with this nomination. Can you please stop by? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:54, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1900 College Football All-America Team

I have reviewed your multiple hook DYK nomination and there are a a couple of outstanding issues that need to be resolved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK review

Hello! Your submission of 1909 College Football All-America Team at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! -- JoannaSerah (talk) 06:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==1900 College Football All-America Team==
 I have reviewed your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/1900_College_Football_All-America_Team multiple hook DYK nomination] and there are a a couple of outstanding issues that need to be resolved. [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 09:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
+==DYK review==
+[[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[1909 College Football All-America Team]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/1909 College Football All-America Team|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem-->  -- [[User:JoannaSerah|JoannaSerah]] ([[User talk:JoannaSerah|talk]]) 06:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC)