Talk:Kim Jong Un

Q1: Why doesn't the article mention the recent news about Kim Jong Un's death/illness?

A1: While many news organizations are reporting that Kim Jong Un may be dead or gravely ill, these reports are either speculation or from unreliable sources.

Q2: Shouldn't the article at least mention that Kim Jong Un might be dead or in grave danger?

A2: Our biographies of living persons policy puts a priority on maintaining factual accuracy, not on including all the possible information. Publishing speculative rumors of any person's death isn't allowed.

CC licensed image

This can be uploaded to Commons and used here. Go for it Nope...don't. It is not CC as indicated as another person has pointed out it was an image lifted from a newspaper.--Maleko Mela (talk) 21:40, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Yea, that appears to be a release of the Xinhua News Agency, so it wouldn't work. Tarc (talk) 21:52, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

According the annotations on the page, the file comes from China’s Xinhua News Agency and has uncertain licensing. I'm as eager as any editor to have an image up on this page; I've participated several times in the voluminous discussions on the matter and I strongly believe it qualifies under non-free image use exceptions if any case of BLP does, and ultimately I think consensus will catch up with the reasoning that has been applied to that end, but, all of that said, if North Korean news agency photos haven't been accepted by the editors opposing that perspective, this one certainly won't. Snow (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

What's the copyright status on these photos from the barbershop that put up a poster of KJU? Since the UK is a country with freedom of panorama, wouldn't this technically fall under the same rationale for using a cropped photo of a public portrait on Kim Il Sung's page? Do we know about the copyright of whoever made the Kim Il Sung portrait? No, but it's apparently irrelevant under freedom of panorama. Schvass (talk) 14:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

• The difference here is the Kim Il-sung picture is derivative of a work that was posted by the government of North Korea in North Korea, where there is freedom of panorama. It was a choice of the copyright holder to do so. In the case here, of Kim Jong-un, the copyright holder did not make such a choice. Simply taking someone's copyrighted working, making a posted of it, and placing it in public view in a freedom of panorama country does not strip the copyright holder of their rights. So no, the barbershop image is not usable. Sorry. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Commons

What about this image on Commons? thumb Ocaasi ^{t | c} 23:36, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Found the image used [1] with cited to AFP/Getty. So I've already nominated that for speedy deletion on Commons as no way that's the user's own work. --MASEM (t) 23:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2014

if you could put Kim Jong Un picture on his politician page, i would appreciate it. thanks so much for your consideration! Josh Brannon

107.220.148.162 (talk) 14:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

 Not done - As explained above we can find no copyright free picture to use. - Arjayay (talk) 15:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2014

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 20:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Why Does This Article Have No Picture Of Kim Jong Un?

It shouldn't be hard to find one that isn't copyrighted. However, the page's "locked down" condition makes it impossible for most Wikipedeans to simply add a pic ourselves. RobertLovesPi (talk) 19:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Every image of Kim Jong Un that has been found is copyrighted, and would be non-free under WP's policy. As the Foundation requires us to not use non-free where free content can be made (as is the case of the living leader of a major country of the world), we can't use copyrighted images and thus have no image until a free one comes about. --MASEM (t) 21:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

There's one on Commons right now: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kim_Jong-un_-_Thierry_Ehrmann.jpg I think it should be put into this article. --Krawunsel (talk) 15:32, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Done - finally!!!! :-))))) --Krawunsel (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

• Nope. The same image was placed on this article last year right about this time [2], and rapidly removed [3]. It was subsequently deleted from Commons. See Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kim Jong Un graffiti.jpg. The graffiti is a derivative work of this image, and as such is encumbered with rights from the original photograph, making it incompatible with Commons licensing requirements, and not free as we define it. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:12, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

That's typical - we've finally got a solution but you've got to destroy everything. You proved once and for all that you are unwilling to have ANY image in the article. I could personally travel to North Korea and take a picture of him and you'd still find some flimsy pretext to remove it from the article. This picture was obviously taken from an outdoors wall, therefore we are talking about the freedom of panorama!!! Something which you chose to ignore since it doesn't fit into your plans to keep ANY image from this article. Well, Kim Jong-un is not exactly what I'd call an amiable or sympathetic fella but I can only imagine how you must be hating Kim Jong-Un that you're constantly at keeping ANY image out of the article. --Krawunsel (talk) 07:52, 11 July 2014 (UTC)