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Hi. You sent me a COI message, and have undone a number of my carefully chosen references. Please take the time to investigate the sources I selected. You are correct that they typically come from Wine-Searcher.com. You are incorrect that this means that they are spam. They are genuine references. I am a wine professional and have spent five years full-time creating encyclopedic content. I hold the WSET Diploma and am embarking on a Master of Wine qualification. Please stop undoing my work. I am supporting (not undoing) yours.
Hi. You sent me a COI message, and have undone a number of my carefully chosen references. Please take the time to investigate the sources I selected. You are correct that they typically come from Wine-Searcher.com. You are incorrect that this means that they are spam. They are genuine references. I am a wine professional and have spent five years full-time creating encyclopedic content. I hold the WSET Diploma and am embarking on a Master of Wine qualification. Please stop undoing my work. I am supporting (not undoing) yours.
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::You may want to look at our [[WP:DUCK]] essay. The fact that ALL of your edits focus on adding wine-searcher.com links is problematic--especially when there is a litany of [[WP:RS|reliable]] wine references out there. As someone who also hold a WSET Diploma and is also working towards MW, I'm not swayed by your playing of the [[WP:EXPERT]]. In fact, someone in your position should be acutely aware of the abundance of reliable sources (even more reliable than Wine Searcher) out there and should have an edit history that is incorporating this pulling from a broad array of sources. Lord knows you'll never pass any of the Level 4 WSET exams relying on Wine Searcher alone. [[User:Agne27 |Agne]][[Special:Contributions/Agne27|<sup>Cheese</sup>]]/[[User Talk:Agne27|<sup>Wine</sup>]] 03:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
::You may want to look at our [[WP:DUCK]] essay. The fact that ALL of your edits focus on adding wine-searcher.com links is problematic--especially when there is a litany of [[WP:RS|reliable]] wine references out there. As someone who also hold a WSET Diploma and is also working towards MW, I'm not swayed by your playing of the [[WP:EXPERT]]. In fact, someone in your position should be acutely aware of the abundance of reliable wine sources (even more reliable than Wine Searcher) out there and should have an edit history which incorporates that knowledge by pulling from a broad array of sources. Lord knows you'll never pass any of the Level 4 WSET exams relying on Wine Searcher alone. [[User:Agne27 |Agne]][[Special:Contributions/Agne27|<sup>Cheese</sup>]]/[[User Talk:Agne27|<sup>Wine</sup>]] 03:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Monica Larner

Hi Agne - I added two references at Talk:Monica Larner that might be good for the article (if not already summarized in the article). - Jreferee (talk) 15:28, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll take a look at them. AgneCheese/Wine 05:42, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
What a glaring omission: Like a good vintage, you just get better with age! Harrias talk 17:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. Thanks! AgneCheese/Wine 18:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations... Matty.007 18:35, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Matty. That was festive :P AgneCheese/Wine 18:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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US state winery lists

A user, IronGargoyle, put a deletion prod tag on List of wineries, breweries, and distilleries in New Jersey, which I promptly removed. I believe this user has done it to the rest of the winery list articles for the rest of the states. I am not familiar with the other state lists, so I don't know if they meet MOS/Notability/LINKFARM, etc. policies for inclusion, but if you had a few moments to take a look, I'd appreciate your opinion on it (I don't know if it's too late).--ColonelHenry (talk) 03:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well to be frank, most of List of XXX wineries articles are junk that serve more as directory advertisements then fulfill the requirement of WP:LIST to be informational, developmental and navigational tools. The New Jersey one is a stark exception, because it actually gives information and background with reliable referencing instead of being just a linkfarm.
While I don't think every single entry on the NJ lists is notable, there has nonetheless been considerable effort invested into creating articles that are neutral, non-advert-ish and as much in compliance with WP:GNG as possible. I can see the benefits in giving some WP:IAR lee-way on hardline notability in deference to creating a fuller-prospective and in-depth coverage of the New Jersey wine and beverage industry as you and David have done.
Overall I respect IronGargoyle's efforts to remove advertisements and linkfarms from these types of articles. If another editor wanted to take on such a large-scope project for the Kansas wine industry or Ohio, etc, I could see value in those articles and would support the same IAR-leeway on the less notable entries but right now, these list articles themselves are merely phonebook style directories and linkfarms of largely non-notable businesses.
However, I agree with removing the prod, as you did, and if List of wineries, breweries, and distilleries in New Jersey went to AfD, I would advocate keeping this article. AgneCheese/Wine 04:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Champagne Krug updates

Hello Amber,

Hope you are doing well.

Last month I sent to Krug the two options you gave to me and that will help us to change the photos that appear on Champagne Krug article.Krug has decided to donate a copyrighted image to Wikipedia.

On the other hand Krug want to slightly modify the reference sections, I would like to know if you can modify the references outlined below:

- Jaunay Family History > please delete it
- Krug Grande Cuvée remplace it with https://www.krug.com/en/krug-champagnes/krug-grande-cuvee
- Krug Vintage 1998 remplace it with https://www.krug.com/en/krug-champagnes/krug-vintage/krug-1998
- KC89 Narrative remplace it with https://www.krug.com/en/krug-champagnes/krug-collection/krug-collection-1989
- Krug Clos du Mesnil 1998 remplace it with https://www.krug.com/en/krug-champagnes/krug-clos-du-mesnil/krug-clos-du-mesnil-1998
- Krug Clos d’Ambonnay 1996 remplace it with https://www.krug.com/en/krug-champagnes/krug-clos-dambonnay/krug-clos-dambonnay-1996

I look forward to hearing from you.

Have a good day,

Tristan.sbry (talk) 13:33, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I'm trying to follow this. We're deleting former footnote #6 (the Jaunay link) which was used to source the text "After the war, Joseph II’s slow recovery led to his nephew Jean Seydoux becoming joint manager in 1924." However, looking at the ref, it doesn't appear to verify or support that info at all so it is go to delete it. However, we still need a reference for it or it included in the book (current footnote #5) John Arlott, Krug: House of Champagne?
Secondly, I went ahead and swapped out the url cites because the Krug links were better than the ones currently being used. However, we do need to work on finding more independent, 3rd party reliable references instead of overly relying on Krug's own website. Having too many links to Krug's websites gives the impression of bias POV with the Wikipedia page being used as an advertizing extension of the Krug's website.
And considering that many of the details included in the Champagne section don't really need to be in the article for the sake of encyclopedic depth (a simple bullet list of the generic types of Champagne that Krug makes would suffice), it would not be out of the question to see most of these extraneous details removed entirely in the future--especially if we don't find better referencing. AgneCheese/Wine 20:06, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wine books

Hi, I was considering ordering a book on notable wineries. Can you recommend some books which could be used to bring certain articles to GA status? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:31, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not too many books on wineries themselves. Some books like Sotheby Wine Encyclopedia and Hugh Johnson's Wine Companion will include some blurbs about wineries along with descriptions about the regions. When you get books on specific regions, like Chateauneuf-du-Pape and California, you will have more detailed blurbs on wineries but even that will usually only be a page or two. Unfortunately, it seems like most reliable sources on wineries tend to be from newspaper and magazine articles. AgneCheese/Wine 15:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And what would you consider to be really important winery articles to get up to GA? Particularly California but anywhere else?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few trail blazing wineries in California that would certainly be helpful to have fully developed articles on.
Hope that helps! AgneCheese/Wine 17:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Agne27, I was wondering what you wanted to do about this last-minute April Fools Day nomination, since it wasn't reviewed in time. Since it was so close to the April 1 deadline, we could grandfather it in for next year, but I thought you might want to see it on the main page sooner, and with a regular DYK hook. If the latter, please let me know (and create the new hook); I'm happy to move it to the regular T:TDYK page if you want. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, it can be grandfathered for next year. Probably more likely to get more views with the quirky hook than anything I could come up for a more serious hook about the grape variety. AgneCheese/Wine 18:44, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not going to contest the deletion. I uploaded that pic as a new user before I really understood Wikipedia's image policy. Also, I've found that pics of just wine bottles itself are rarely useful for article illustration so I don't see ever having a need for this pic. AgneCheese/Wine 01:10, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. You sent me a COI message, and have undone a number of my carefully chosen references. Please take the time to investigate the sources I selected. You are correct that they typically come from Wine-Searcher.com. You are incorrect that this means that they are spam. They are genuine references. I am a wine professional and have spent five years full-time creating encyclopedic content. I hold the WSET Diploma and am embarking on a Master of Wine qualification. Please stop undoing my work. I am supporting (not undoing) yours. Jeeves79 (talk) 00:23, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to look at our WP:DUCK essay. The fact that ALL of your edits focus on adding wine-searcher.com links is problematic--especially when there is a litany of reliable wine references out there. As someone who also hold a WSET Diploma and is also working towards MW, I'm not swayed by your playing of the WP:EXPERT. In fact, someone in your position should be acutely aware of the abundance of reliable wine sources (even more reliable than Wine Searcher) out there and should have an edit history which incorporates that knowledge by pulling from a broad array of sources. Lord knows you'll never pass any of the Level 4 WSET exams relying on Wine Searcher alone. AgneCheese/Wine 03:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]