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DYK for Tunisian wine

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Turkey Flat

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Abruzzo (wine)

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DYK for Wine Grapes

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DYK for Žametovka

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Hi, if you could take a look back at Template:Did you know nominations/ITM Power, I've changed the founding date, and proposed two alt hooks. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 13:34, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. AgneCheese/Wine 18:34, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mastroberardino

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The DYK project (nominate) 08:23, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Würzburger Stein

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Texas wine

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I appreciate your edits, or should I say deletions, on the Texas Wine article. I see you created the article over 5 years ago and thank you for that. Unfortunately a lot has changed in the Texas wine industry since then. The two official sites you left as external links are organizations for which wineries/vineyards must belong. If they do not belong to them, they will not be listed in those websites. I read the blog guidelines for which you referred to in your deletions but these days blogs sometimes have more and better information than any official websites, and that is true in this case. The top two blog sites regarding Texas wine along with the factual information for which the guidelines you referred to, are VintageTexas.com and TXWineLover.com. It's certainly up to you if you include any other external sites, but an awareness of the situation should be made before deletions are made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcwebman (talk • contribs) 02:25, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that some blogs can be a good source of information and if that is the case with these blog links then they should be added to the article as reference citation to actual content, not as part of a mass of links at the bottom of the page. Above all we should remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a collection of external links. AgneCheese/Wine 03:34, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I fully agree with Agne here. Blogs on subject X are not generally suitable as ELs in the article X. For wine region/country articles, EL would often be restricted to more-or-less official organizations in those areas, and possibly map resources. Tomas e (talk) 01:48, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK nomination of Blaufränkisch

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DYK for Blaufränkisch

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Notification of discussion

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A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman (talk) 21:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please give new comments

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You submitted a "GA Re-Review and In-line citations" in Talk:Chinese_Rites_controversy 22:45, 25 September 2006 (UTC), which legitimately delisted the article from GA category 06:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC).

I have improved the article by supplying in-line citations and expand the text a bit, now the article is submitted for GA again. I hope that you can at least do a formalities check to see if the basic requirement of in-line citations is met. Thank you.

--(comparingChinese Wikipedia vs Baidu Baike by hanteng) 06:25, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Krug Champagne - New article ready to be posted

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Hi Agne27, it’s been a long time, how are you ? Still involved on Champagne topics ?

By the way, since our last exchange on the page about “Krug Champagne” (Sept 2011), we have been working to complete the article and verify the accuracy of the content. We also paid attention to respect the Wikipedia guidelines. For instance, we took into account your last comment about “Relationship with Krug lovers", and thus erased this part of our article.

So we would be very grateful if you could have a look on our article, and tell us what you think. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. You can see it here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Champagne_Krug Thank you very much,

--Champagne Krug (talk) 17:03, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not as active as I once was but I will try to get time to take a look and I will also put a note at WT:WINE to encourage other wine project members to also review the page. Thank you for your transparency and willingness to work within Wikipedia's guidelines. AgneCheese/Wine 18:35, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Sex diet for deletion

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Thank you

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For your excellent rationale on the DYK nomination page of Arapian. Very well done. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:33, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article style point

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Agne27, I noticed that in your most recent edits to The Racketeer (novel) article, you've put quotes in italics. This is not proper Wikipedia style: the double quotes indicate that the material is quoted, but the quoted material should remain in roman type unless italics were used in the original for emphasis, and then only those words that were italicized. (See WP:Quotations, the Formatting section, and also WP:MOSQUOTE.) Thanks for your work on the DYK nomination! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:16, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

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The Original Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
Pour votre santé monsieur! Here's a Barnstar for all your excellent work on those wine articles! However, I know you'd rather be gifted an aged Languedoc-Roussillon wine instead :D But this is the best I can do for now....Keep it up! Proudbolsahye (talk) 18:44, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Though I am more of a Châteauneuf-du-Pape girl myself ;) Appreciate it. AgneCheese/Wine 18:53, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article Nominations Request For Comment

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A 'Request For Comment' for Good Article Nominations is currently being held. We are asking that you please take five to ten minutes to review all seven proposals that will affect Good Article Nominations if approved. Full details of each proposal can be found here. Please comment on each proposal (or as many as you can) here.

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DYK nomination of Dureza

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Hello! Your submission of Dureza at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! NinaGreen (talk) 01:02, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Took care of it and thanks for the copy edit! AgneCheese/Wine 01:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Marselan

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Dureza

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Pomerol AOC

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK Mary Louise Graffam

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Thanks for the review and that issues you have raised. I paraphrased much of the sentences that may be of concern. Check it out for yourself. Cheers! Proudbolsahye (talk) 23:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Barbaroux

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The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Corton-Charlemagne

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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So many DYK credits! Rename this page from "Talk page" to "DYK Talk page"! Tito Dutta (contact) 04:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you restore the DYKtick is all issues are addressed? Tito Dutta (contact) 11:49, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bouchalès

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PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:03, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Soho Pam

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Thanks for your comments at the DYK review. I have added more content and it seems ready for another review now, please. Warden (talk) 15:22, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Pecorino (grape)

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DYK for Gros Verdot

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PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:03, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Peloursin

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PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:03, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wine

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Hi there! I had actually expected a call from you much sooner being our resident wine guru, I guess I should have asked for your assistance! Oh I've always been interested in things like vineyards and wines, your work always captured my attention I think you know this, but it's not a subject I am that familiar with writing much about on wikipedia, certainly and like many topics, music etc I really don't write near enough on them. Dunno, I was creating some articles on some lakes and reserves in northern California Rector Reservoir etc and I was looking on google maps and spotted the wineries, Silver Oak was one of the nearest to the reservoir I created. I also had a look around and started a few more like Palmaz Vineyards. The photographs I googled of the vineyards and that were amazing. I guess I wanted to prove to myself we could have quality articles on them all and was amazed by what I found in google books and highbeam and wondered why they were missing. It has sort of been an ongoing thing for me and trying to fill in red links and produce something worthwhile and I tried to produce decent articles on the blue links I started. I contacted them requesting images, they were a bit dubious (understandably over the CC thing), but have agreed to release images which is still pending in the commons as I think they're happy with the work I've been doing and can see that the images improve the quality of the articles. I get a very good response generally from requests and recently got people to change the licenses for the Clive Mantle images. As for flowery language, I tried to gather what I could but a lot of the quotes and things tend to be written that way. Even newspaper articles and the wine magazines seemed to gush about them, I thought the articles were accurate, but if you think it affects neutrality it is your right of course to tone them down, but I'm not really familiar with your wine guidelines. Anyway, if there is further work you want done on starting some wineries or whatever, let me know! I must say that it has been an enjoyable editing subject for me.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:41, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, my wiki activities been kind of spotty these past two years with off wiki wife. I've just recently this past month or so really got back to article writing. Your articles do look beautiful and, yeah, it is tough to find wine magazine articles and other sources that don't gush or use flowery prose. It is sort of the nature of wine that it tends to make people want to wax poetically :P Again, I can't say how much I appreciate your work and was thrilled to see you working on wine articles. I don't anticipate drastic changes, just a little tweaking in tone and maybe a few less quotes. AgneCheese/Wine 22:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the positive words on the articles. OK, don't be too harsh on the articles though! Yeah with some nice images and some interesting history it really is a beautiful subject and I can see why you've dedicated so much time to it, although you being a winemaker as a career explains a lot. Out of curiosity, which valley/AVA are you based in? I'd be happy for you to draw up a list of really notable missing articles whether they are wineries, vineyards or biographies that are missing and try to help out some more, I've probably been putting too many eggs in the Silver Oak basket but I found Ray Duncan and Justin Meyer to be notable figures and one thing led to another in the blue link building! I just found a vast hole in coverage, and found numerous books which could be used to create a staggering number of articles, you and precious few others have done the sum of work to date but we could use so many more editors to build related articles.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I live in Washington State and work with grapes from the Horse Heaven Hills AVA, Red Mountain AVA, Walla Walla AVA, etc. There is quite a bit more work that needs to be done. I've been slowly working my way through my list User:Agne27/French wine project but I can draw you up a list of some important winery/bio articles that need to be created. Is there a particular part of the world that interest you? California, Italy, Australia, Spain? AgneCheese/Wine 22:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

California, France, Italy, Spain, that would be fine. Do you know Zelma Long, she's interested in increasing the wine industry output I Washington I believe.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes! She is actually one of my heroes as a pioneering woman winemaker. Excellent article! If you didn't already have that one created she wouldn't certainly be on my wishlist along with:

Some notable women in wine only have very small, stubbish articles with red links that you may feel like expanding:

LOL, well that's a bit of a list with a lot of DYK potential :P If you get bored of women winemakers just let me know. I can come up with a list of just about anything. Thanks again Dr. for your interest in working on wine articles! :) AgneCheese/Wine 17:19, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On my list, I'll see what I can do, might manage a couple a week.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:26, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Josephine Tychson started.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:03, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Damn you're good. :) You deserve something more than a barnstar. I don't know if you live in the United States but if you do, I would love to send you a bottle of wine as a thank you for all the good work you do for Wikipedia. AgneCheese/Wine 17:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I live in the flourishing wine region of the Vale of Glamorgan in south Wales ahem... Our principal winemakers in Wales are Sheep! Started Iris Rideau!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 09:47, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Template:Did you know nominations/Josephine Tychson and Iris Rideau.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very cool! I hope it gets accepted for DYK. I would review it myself but I think my slight COI as a wine editor may upset some of the DYK regulars. AgneCheese/Wine 19:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Pineau d'Aunis

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DYK for Yeast assimilable nitrogen

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DYK for Vidal Blanc

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Did you know nominations/Richard Kogan, M.D.

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Thanks for your advice on this DYK nomination.
Within how much time must a 5-fold augmentation be made, starting at what point in an article's development?
Cheers, Nihil novi (talk) 02:59, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'll respond on the nominating page. AgneCheese/Wine 03:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Maury AOC

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DYK for Saint-Nicolas-de-Bourgueil AOC

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Couderc noir

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DYK nomination of Abouriou

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replied. AgneCheese/Wine 22:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cayuga White

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Agne, Should the "white" in Cayuga White be capitalized or not? If not, I will make it lowercase in the winery articles that I have written. DavidinNJ (talk) 21:34, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As far I can tell the "white" in Cayuga White is part of the cultivar name itself rather than just a color descriptor (i.e. the grape is never known as just Cayuga or there isn't a Cayuga Black, etc). So I would probably leave it as is. AgneCheese/Wine 21:41, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the advice. DavidinNJ (talk) 22:46, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Abouriou

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DYK for Aurore (grape)

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—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 00:02, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

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Thanks for the barnstar, and for your contributions to the winery articles. DavidinNJ (talk) 01:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Marechal Joffre

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DYK for Gouget noir

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cultivars = proper nouns

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Thanks. I guess you meant to say that grape cultivars are spellt with Capital letters? Regs, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 19:48, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At least with wine grape cultivars, yes. AgneCheese/Wine 19:54, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest companies in the world

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Hi Adne27 I see that you are quite into wine - so am I. I once did all the reseach to include Sandeman Port and Ferreira Port in this list, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_companies but never got round to it and no longer have the info. Don't know if it is among your interests. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 21:00, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I do enjoy Port and it would be wonderful to see articles created for Sandeman (wine) (my guess for the best dab since it looks like their name is officially just Sandeman and they do make some wines other than Port) and Ferreira Cellars. I'm currently working on a projects involving Grape varieties and French wine articles but if you start either of these articles I will try my best to find some time to contribute. AgneCheese/Wine 21:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for standing up for me in the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Template:Did_you_know_nominations.2FJohn_Christian_Reid. I really want to help out clearing out the DYK backlog, so it's nice to notice people actually appreciate me for that, even if I make a mistake every now and then. —♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 19:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well as I said, it is a very thankless job but the work that you, BlueMoonset and others do is hugely important in keeping DYK running smoothly. There will always be the occasional hiccup that can blow up into Wiki-drama but what you guys do is appreciated even if it is not vocalized as often as it should be. AgneCheese/Wine 15:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Douce noir

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The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

A most excellent article, thankyou!!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:34, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thanks. It's good to see obscure grapes getting some respect :) AgneCheese/Wine 19:35, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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