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:Hey Ceranthor, there are two tools that are your friends when you lose an image source but you know it was online: archives like Wayback Machine, and image matchers like TinEye. In this case [https://web.archive.org/web/20130302210600/http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Projects/Glicken/glicken.jpg Archive.org is the winner]; the TinEye [http://tineye.com/search/f198ecdf3c091ce6ea408553d5e62abd15e2cc8b/?pluginver= results] take a bit of massaging, but the USGS credit is confirmed via a now-broken link at Scientific American. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria#top|talk]]) 22:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
:Hey Ceranthor, there are two tools that are your friends when you lose an image source but you know it was online: archives like Wayback Machine, and image matchers like TinEye. In this case [https://web.archive.org/web/20130302210600/http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Projects/Glicken/glicken.jpg Archive.org is the winner]; the TinEye [http://tineye.com/search/f198ecdf3c091ce6ea408553d5e62abd15e2cc8b/?pluginver= results] take a bit of massaging, but the USGS credit is confirmed via a now-broken link at Scientific American. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria#top|talk]]) 22:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
::Awesome, thanks for your help. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="#4682B4" face="Optima">ceran</font>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<font color="#4682B4" face="Optima">''thor''</font>]] 02:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::Awesome, thanks for your help. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="#4682B4" face="Optima">ceran</font>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<font color="#4682B4" face="Optima">''thor''</font>]] 02:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== childhood obesity ==

Hi Nikkimaria - I was looking to add some more global data to the [[Childhood Obesity]] page but see it is semi-protected. I don't want to insert problematic content or bluster into a controversial area. I want to be particularly sensitive because I have a conflict of interest.
The data I'd like to add comes from the [http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2814%2960460-8/fulltext Global Burden of Disease study]. Hoping for some guidance here. [[User:Savannah38|Savannah38]] ([[User talk:Savannah38|talk]]) 18:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:14, 29 July 2014

Request

Would you consider continuing your review of Briarcliff Manor, New York? I would be glad to have more insight.--ɱ (talk) 22:07, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned you were going to check on a couple of things - have you had a chance to do that yet? Nikkimaria (talk) 22:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just books to see if they have page numbers; I've added them for all majorly cited works except the 1952 history, which I'll do soon. Otherwise, do you have any other comments for it? If not, could you ask any WP acquaintances if they can find any comments for it? I seem to have run out of people. (Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I forgot to watchlist this page as I often do when writing on others' talk pages)--ɱ (talk) 15:55, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll stop by the review today or tomorrow. If you need more reviewers, you might also consider posting a neutral message at relevant WikiProjects. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:03, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds good, I'll post something tomorrow. About your Sleepy Hollow Country Club edits, I know it's the norm not to resize images or put in line breaks like I did, although it improves the article's format by not having a few words left under the photo and by moving the second clause on the infobox's caption to one line. I believe MOS allows you to make formatting changes if it improves the layout. The infobox change should be consistent on all browsers and devices, and the image resizing should be an improvement for laptops and desktops; for mobile devices there shouldn't be much difference (it also only shrinks the image size by 20px).--ɱ (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, some have their preferences set to a larger default image size, and fixing the size overrides that default, which can be a problem if someone has vision issues, for example - 300px is the most common custom image default, so that would represent a much bigger shrink. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that makes sense. What do you think about the br tag?--ɱ (talk) 02:37, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Again, if someone has different default settings, that's going to change the way the caption wraps - it might look better with a break on your screen, but not everyone has those settings. I don't think it's worth trying to force the break. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Kacy Catanzaro

Gatoclass (talk) 17:22, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

appreciation

I just wanted to come here to say how impressed I am by the remarkable etxent -- and consistent excellence -- of your work at WP. DGG ( talk ) 21:08, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:19, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Google books

Thanks for the edit there! Had a quick scroll through your talk page and read the conversation a little further up on Google Books citations. In regards to shortening the urls, is it literally a case of simply removing everything after "PA###"? So:

url=http://books.google.com/books?id=WjJ3THGG5iIC&pg=PA437&lpg=PA437&dq=bella+gerant+alii+tu+felix+austria+nube&... etc

would become

 url=http://books.google.com/books?id=WjJ3THGG5iIC&pg=PA437&lpg=PA437

? Sotakeit (talk) 11:46, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Sotakeit, if you're citing a single page available in preview,
 url=http://books.google.com/books?id=WjJ3THGG5iIC&pg=PA437
should be enough. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 11:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Duly noted. Thanks. Sotakeit (talk) 12:40, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Student Project Proposals

@Nikkimaria: Hi Nikki, I'm having students post project proposals (a brief outline of what article they're planning on developing and some preliminary research) this Friday the 25th. I'll split up the students into three groups for each ambassador. You'll each have around 6 proposals to review by the 30th. My plan was to have them post to your talk page, unless you want to create a separate talk page? Let me know and thanks again for all your help.Matthewvetter (talk) 03:18, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Matthewvetter, here is fine, thanks. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:08, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The FP's Featured Article nomination

Hey Nikki! I don't mean to be bothersome, but it's been a week since your last reply at The FP's FA nomination, so I wanted to follow up and see if you had a chance to return to it. I apologize if this is coming off as pestering or annoying, as I know you coordinate several different things and probably have a lot of other work to do, but I felt like it was worth double checking. Thank you for all the work you do! Corvoe (be heard) 11:53, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Corvoe, I hope to get there within the next couple of days. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:08, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for getting back to me so fast! No rush at all, I know there's other stuff going on at the moment. Just wanted to double check to be safe. Corvoe (be heard) 12:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Resilient Barnstar
Nikkimaria, working on Arbcom I regularly see the worst the encyclopedia has to offer. It's nice to be reminded that some members of our community not only work tirelessly to improve the encyclopedia, but also show integrity in the face of difficult situations. I sincerely hope recent events do not put you off editing, and that you will continue to be a driving force for this encyclopedia. WormTT(talk) 12:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Account Flags

If you want any of your flags (reviewer, autopatroll, rollback) you had prior to resigning as an admin back, feel free to ping me-I trust you will only request what you need. Alternately you can request via the usual process. Happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 16:05, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Xaosflux, I'd like autopatrolled for sure, if you don't mind. I might request some of the others later. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:37, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. — xaosflux Talk 03:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK close paraphrasing

Nikkimaria, there are a couple of DYK nominations you might want to look at.

The first, Template:Did you know nominations/Astronomical Society of New South Wales, you had issues with earlier. There have been fixes made, and another reviewer has subsequently given the nomination a tick, but I wanted to check back with you to make sure all the issues you'd identified have been solved. If they have been, then no need to post anything further there; otherwise, it might be nice to point out issues before it gets promoted if possible.

The second, Template:Did you know nominations/Felisa Vanoff, you've commented on the article's talk page about close paraphrasing. There have been a goodly number of article edits since then, which was also after I put a "close paraphrasing" template on the article itself. Since the author seems to think everything is fixed now, according to the latest post in the DYK nomination page, I was hoping you could check to see whether it is satisfactory, or if close paraphrasing remains.

Thanks for anything you can do here. My thought is that if significant close paraphrasing does remain, we suggest that the article be submitted to the Guild of Copy Editors—am I correctly assuming that they take care of close paraphrasing? If so, once someone from GOCE has completed the work, the close paraphrasing template could presumably be safely removed. Please let me know what you think. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:27, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:BlueMoonset: I actually think this may be a good (and constructive, finally) idea, because I don't see close paraphrasing, or know how to fix it further than all the work I have done so far. I thought people who profess criticisms would fix it, be part of the solution not the problem, but if others can make everyone happy, that is fine. I do note however that no one replied to my other notes about home/private residence, or Google Books/Scholars...Zigzig20s (talk) 03:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hey BlueMoonset, short answer: no. Some GOCE editors may work on such issues, particularly if they are aware they exist, but copyeditors are not required to and do not always look at the sources. In fact, in cases where editors have created awkward wording in an effort to avoid too-close paraphrasing, a copyeditor not checking sources could actually make the problem worse.
I will check the two specific cases tomorrow, as it's getting rather late here now and I want to run through the current queue before signing off. Thanks for your continued good work on these issues. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:39, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it turns out that the "current queue" stands at one article, so I will check one of the two at least for now. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know about the GOCE's remit, which is a very important point. Have a good night, Nikkimaria, and thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:02, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ArthurRead1234 => Marshall1234

Hi. An investigation into sockpuppetry by ArthurRead1234 has been opened at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ArthurRead1234. MartinSFSA (talk) 11:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I don't recall interacting with you or either of the two mentioned at SPI previously - was there some reason you thought I should know about this? Nikkimaria (talk) 22:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nikkimaria,
Sorry if that's not clear, your interaction was deleting the hoax on The Shapies page and the master account reverting your edit.
This edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Shapies&diff=617657714&oldid=617655329 MartinSFSA (talk) 02:23, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, okay, thanks. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BMJ free access

I have filled the form but did not get any news yet.--Ashashyou (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay. We're passing the form results on to the folks at BMJ and they should hopefully be ready soon.
If there are any TPSes waiting on other resources I process for The Wikipedia Library: the same applies to approved OUP requests, but they should be ready shortly. Credo will be delayed a bit more. Approved Cochrane requests are sent to Cochrane once every week or two. HighBeam requests I process personally, so that happens within a few days to a week (unless there are problems with the application). Nikkimaria (talk) 22:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brendan.Hunstad Ambassador Proposal

Hi Nikkimaria!

First I’d like to thank you for taking the time to help us! This is such a new experience to all of us contributing to Wikipedia and I don’t think anyone in the class fully understood what we signed up for. I plan to fill the gaps in the gap articles! It sounded funny so I figured I would start on a cheerful note. I have decided to take three current articles, the Cumberland Gap, Pound Gap, and Moccasin Gap, and update them.

I have noticed there does not appear to be a standard format for organization among these articles as well as other articles about geological formations on Wikipedia. After looking at many different articles within this subject it appeared the best grade I could hope to reach would be a C-class until I saw the Grand Canyon page, a former featured article. I plan to build my three articles in accordance with the likes of the Grand Canyon in hopes other editors will continue to build more uniformed articles. This means I will be adding much needed information regarding a lead paragraph, Geography, Geology, History, Biology and Ecology, and Tourism. These pages are start class articles that already contain information that so far appears to be accurate but the references seem to be subpar. So I must reorganize some aspects of these articles to make them verifiably accurate and reliable. After looking over the talk pages I have taken into consideration the suggested changes needed to these articles that have not been addressed yet. Furthermore I plan to link these articles and create a Wiki category for Mountain passes of the Appalachians to continue the Wiki principle to "build the web" since they are related by regional location.

Below is my initial annotated bibliography and I created subpages under the username Brendan.Hunstad for each Cumberland Gap, Moccasin Gap, and Pound Gap. Also there is a link to them on my sandbox. Thanks again and I look forward to your comments!

Annotated Bibliography

  • Crawford, M. M., & Hunsberger, H. (2011). Geology of Cumberland Gap National Historical Park (XII). Retrieved from Kentucky Geological Survey University of Kentucky, Lexington website: http://kgs.uky.edu/kgsweb/olops/pub/kgs/mc199_12.pdf
    • This is a pdf file that also includes history, geology, and geography for Cumberland Gap
  • McGrain, P. (1983). The Geological Story of Kentucky (8). Retrieved from Kentucky Geological Survey University of Kentucky, Lexington website: http://kgs.uky.edu/kgsweb/olops/pub/kgs/GeoStory.pdf
    • This is an electronic version that will contribute to the formation in the geology and geography section of the Cumberland Gap.
  • Scott Couny Planning Commission. (2011). Scott County Comprehensive Plan (1). Retrieved from http://www.scottcountyva.com/SCcomp_final_042011.pdf
    • This document provides much useful information for Moccasin Gap; history, natural resources, physical characteristics, land use, and projections for area

Brendan.Hunstad (talk) 22:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Brendan, looks very promising so far. It's a great idea to look to existing articles for organizational ideas; Wikipedia:Good_articles/Geography_and_places has a few more that might work well, if you need. Your plans for expansion and referencing sound great. The one thing I would suggest about the existing content is reconsidering the "popular culture" section. This section, like similar sections on other articles, has attracted some trivia that isn't really encyclopedic in nature. WP:IPC is a good essay that explains practices regarding such sections but, more broadly, I would suggest limiting that section to references that are truly significant, and that you can support with reliable sources. If you run into any problems while working on these articles or have any questions, feel free to ask me. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:09, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Nikki! The links you gave me were a good read and helpful. I agree the pop culture section of the existing article doesn't fit in but wasn't sure about taking it out since some people felt it was important to add it in. But I think those bits of information would serve better on pages specifically related to them and from there hyperlink to the Cumberland Gap article. So I probably will take them out and offer my reasoning on the talk page. I'll let you know when I have drafts ready for you to review. Thanks again! Brendan.Hunstad (talk) 20:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Since Trivia sections were deprecated, many of these have instead inevitably morphed into 'Popular culture' sections because these are liked by some but on the whole are an unencyclopaedic collection of trivial facts that can be safely removed in nine instances out of ten. Regards, -- Ohc ¡digame! 03:15, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

eh598110 Ambassador Proposal

Hello there! First off, thank you so much for volunteering your time to help our class learn how to write in Wikipedia! So far I am really enjoying the class and can already tell my writing has improved just half way through the class! Wikipedia wasn’t something I considered as a strong and reliable source but now that I have learned more about it and all of its uses I have changed my opinion, it is also nice that I can find other sources through Wikipedia by going to their references, which I am ecstatic about! As far as my project proposal goes I have two ideas that I would love your feedback and critiques on. My first idea is to work on the Greenfield, OH page. This is my home town so I know a lot about the subject, and unfortunately I know that there is a lot missing from this page so there is definitely room for improvement. On the talk page there really isn’t much action, actually pretty much no action at all. I have posted on there that I am beginning to work on it, and that it was a school project. So anyone who does go on its talk page will be warned. I am interested in this page because Greenfield doesn’t have the best rep, and I think that I could possibly change the stereotype of my home town. It’s known to be a small boring town which has an unfortunately high use of drugs. None of which is suggested in the Wikipedia page currently. As of right now the majority of its Wikipedia page is demographics, I would like to make the Wikipedia page more about Greenfield’s history and other interesting facts that I find when researching. My other option that I think could be interesting could be Tecumseh Outdoor Drama, there currently isn’t a page on this. This is close to my hometown and something that I have seen multiple times and think Wikipedia could benefit from this page. Obviously there isn’t a talk page for this since there isn’t a page on Tecumseh Outdoor Drama. This interests me in many ways but one way in particular is because one of the actors is on channel 4 news (a local new program) Jym Ganahl, he doesn’t currently act in the show, but it’s a part of the Outdoor Drama history that I would enjoy sharing on Wikipedia. I think that we could argue that this page is needed on Wikipedia. Between the two I think I could find more reliable sources on Greenfield, OH. Do you have a suggestion on which page I should work on? Here is a link to the current Greenfield, OH page, and here is a link to my sandbox where I will be making my changes to the article. Again, thank you for your time and help! Below is my annotated bibliography.

  • "Greenfield, Ohio." Wikipedia. N.p.: n.p., n.d. Wikipedia.org. Web. 25 July 2014.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenfield,_Ohio>. This is the original Greenfield Wikipedia page, I plan to still use the information found on the page and make additions to it as well. This page mostly focuses on the demographics, like numbers of citizens.
  • McLeese, Don. Tecumseh. Vero Beach: Rourke, 2004. Print. Discusses the Shawnee Chief, Tecumseh's childhood,the Battle of Tippecanoe, Tecumseh's return, and his death. This source is purposely for background information since there is already a Tecumseh Wikipedia page. However I can make Wikilinks to the original page while giving a brief overview.
  • Merkel, Jerry. Greenfield Ohio Celebrating 200 Years. N.p.: Turner, 2000. Print. Greenfield Ohio: Celebrating 200 years goes back in time from 1799 to 1999 depicting Greenfield Ohio's history. Chronicling the extensive heritage of each county through historic photos, families,businesses, churches, and organizational histories. The people and history is thoroughly researched.
  • Owens, Susie. "Ohio's Remarkable Tecumseh Outdoor Drama." Discovering Ohio. N.p., 27 june 2014. Web. 25 July 2014. <http://www.discoveringohio.com/2014/06/ohios-hills-.html>. This website gives a small and brief overview of the experience of the Outdoor drama. I think that it could be an interesting section to the Tecumseh Outdoor Drama Wikipedia page.
  • The Historical Society of Greenfield. Greenfield. N.p.: Arcadia, 2012. Print. Book is mostly pictures with captions underneath. Captions are filled with lots of tidbits of information. Discusses history, the high school (one of the most well known in the state), and towns people.

Again, thank you! Eh598110 (talk) 16:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eh598110. Before you created a page on Tecumseh Outdoor Drama, you would need to be able to prove that it meets Wikipedia's notability standards. The best way to do this would be to present multiple independent reliable sources. Since you've got only one source on that topic and it appears to be a tourism site, I'm not sure whether you'd be able to do that. I think working on the Greenfield page is probably a safer bet. However, do be careful about trying to "change the stereotype of my home town" - if reliable sources document a problem with drugs, for example, that should be included in the Wikipedia article even if it isn't such a positive view of the town.
In order to better structure your approach to the Greenfield article, I suggest looking at some excellent examples of articles about similar towns. This list includes some promising choices in that regard. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline also gives some very good advice about what information to include.
Finally, while history might be what interests you most, make sure your finished product is a balanced representation of the town, including its geography, climate, culture, etc. Make sure you have some good sources for each of these aspects as well, not just the history. Let me know if you have any questions or need help. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nikkimaria, I was going to call for a new reviewer on this one, but given the close paraphrasing found earlier, I thought it might be a good idea to get someone who's good at looking for that to see how the article stands now before finding someone to look at the ALT hooks. If you have a chance, please see how it looks. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:54, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fisher Ambassador Proposal

The articles I will be working on for Project 3 are “Jesco White” and “The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia” (WWWWV). In my opinion, the WWWWV page should not even be considered a start page. The basic layout of the page is completed, but a lot more information regarding the details of the film should be included. There is a reception section is present, but only one sentence and view point is documented. This is from the site Rotten Tomatoes, a reliable source, but doesn’t really give info regarding how the movie has been reacted to. I plan on referring to other articles about documentaries for guidance on gaps that can be added (Waiting for “Superman”). The Jesco article contains 5 dead links (as well as a few repeats). My goal is to have sourced all the info that is currently on the page with working links as well as developing other areas of the article. There are several places within the article that have repeated information in different sections. For each film under the depiction in the media category, only a two sentence summary is given. This needs lengthening. The majority of the personal life section revolves around 1 arrest. This should be changed as well.

I plan on using many resources I found during class time, but also the WP:BIO page and WP:BLP (Biography of Living Persons) page for guidance on what info should and should not be included. I will be using the manual of style for film as well biographies for guidance on what material is appropriate.

I am having some difficulty with finding info about Jesco, which upon researching found was due to the local newspaper of their town being shut down. Not sure how to get around this, but did find a cached version of an article about him fleeing WV with his sister and gives good background knowledge of the family and his personal life.


“The Dancing Outlaw makes a run for the West Virginia border” http://clatl.com/atlanta/the-dancing-outlaw-makes-a-run-for-the-west-virginia-border/Content?oid=1244411 I want to use info from this article because it has lots of detail about jesco’s personal life, how he feels about performing, and life before the WWWWV documentary. It also gives an inside perspective on how Jesco interacts with family members apart from the documentary.

http://coalvalleynews.com/view/full_story/3169991/article-White-to-retire-from-showbusiness?instance=commented#.U9KXjI3_O8V About jesco’s retirement.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4675760570_1fbd0b9ac9.jpg This is a screen shot of the newspaper clipping discussing the murder of D. Ray White. Jesco was injured during the shooting and the death had a major impact on Jesco’s future. I am having difficulty locating an official obituary or news article (this could be related to the newspaper closing as previously mentioned.)

As previously mentioned, I want to add reception to the WWWWV article. I have found several reviews of the film which I think is important to include all of them to get an overall neutral tone to the article. These are: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-wild-and-wonderful-whites-of-west-virginia http://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/The-Wild-Wonderful-Whites-Of-West-Virginia-4611.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rupert-russell/review-the-wild-and-wonde_b_591964.html http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/24/news/la-wild-whites-west-story http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/05/movies/05wild.html?partner=Rotten%2520Tomatoes&ei=5083 http://moviemet.com/review/wild-and-wonderful-whites-west-virginia-dvd#.U9KesY3_O8U http://www.popmatters.com/post/133214-the-wild-and-wonderful-whites-of-west-virginia-this-is-the-real-amer/ http://www.jamesweggreview.org/Articles.aspx?ID=1221 http://leestranahan.com/sunday-doc-review-the-wild-and-wonderful-whites-of-west-virginia/ http://firedoglake.com/2010/05/10/fdl-movie-night-the-wild-and-wonderful-whites-of-west-virginia/ http://pankmagazine.com/2011/01/12/pop-ulcer-the-wild-wonderful-whites-of-west-virginia/

A lot of these also include a snippet about the cultural significance of the movie which I think is imperative to include in the article. I’m doing further research in finding an academic journal or scholarly essay to support this. I will keep you updated.


I have found a lot of other info regarding the different white family members. This will be included (small bio section on WWWWV). This information is not from a reliable source so I’m worried it will be deleted/a waste of time if I do add it. A webpage giving info about jesco (2nd link) is also helpful, but from a reliable source. What do you think I should do? http://eddieonfilm.blogspot.com/2010/03/if-that-aint-country.html http://www.angelfire.com/wv2/bandytown/Jesco%20Page.htm


I found the press kit for WWWWV and the film inspired by jesco’s life “White Lightnin”. I plan on using the WWWWV kit to help write the plot summary of the film but am worried this is not a neutral depiction since it was released by the producers.

I have several additional resources I would like to share with you. These give background info about the whites and the making of the film. Because I have downloaded these articles I was unsure how to send them to you. I added them to my box account which I have posted a link to here.


Thank you so much for looking over my proposal and I can’t wait to hear the feedback you give! I really appreciate the time you’re volunteering to our class to help make Wikipedia better. Cf105308 (talk) 18:38, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Cf105308, it's great that you were able to find so many sources to support your editing. I agree with you that the Blogspot link is likely not a reliable source - I would suggest not including it, even if that means you will need to omit some of its details. I'm also curious as to whether that Angelfire site is an "official" source. Angelfire allows users to create and publish their own content, so we need to consider who the author is. You can use the press kit for the plot section, as that is an appropriate place to include a primary or non-independent source. Just make sure you're careful not to fall for the hype, and that you yourself remain neutral in writing the article. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

E.Kassel Ambassador Proposal

Hi! Thank you so much for helping out our class with learning how to write in Wikipedia. The first article that I have chosen to expand on is the article “Western Maryland.” I go to Deep Creek Lake (which is in Western Maryland) every year for vacation, so this is definitely something that interests me. There is a lot of content that needs to be added to this, and there are many gaps within it. It needs an actual history section with header, population and economics, a tourism section, demographics and a few others that I am still debating on. The section that begins the article also needs some revision, and some of the information needs to be put in a separate area. It also could use a sidebar that has some information that people may be coming to this article to quickly find and read. This article is very underdeveloped and this project will definitely make this article one that people will get a lot of information out of. My second article I have chosen to update is the one on the Appalachian Baseball League. I am a sports management major so I thought that writing more on this article will not only help out anyone that wants to learn about the League, but will help me expand my sports knowledge as well. This article needs some information on each of the teams, references, some more history, and some updates to the team list area. If there is anything you can think of that I should add on either of these, the help would be much appreciated! Here is a link to both articles ( Western Maryland ) ( Appalachian League ) and a link to my Sandbox where I will be editing the articles. There is also a list of some of my sources listed below. Again, thank you so much for taking the time to help us out with this!

"Maryland at a Glance." Maryland Manual Online. Maryland State Archives, 16 Apr. 2014. Web. 24 July 2014. <http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/01glance/html/mountain.html>. This source will be helpful because it gives me some geographical information, including mountains and some history around it. It also gives me a link to more information that will be helpful in a different section of the Wikipedia article.

Scharf, J. Thomas. History of Western Maryland: Being a History of Frederick, Montgomery, Carroll, Washington, Allegany, and Garrett Counties from the Earliest Period to the Present Day ; including Biographical Sketches of Their Representative Men. Baltimore: Regional Pub., 1968. Print. This book is going to be helpful because the article really needs a complete and updated history section.

Check, Reality. "Western Maryland Map." REALITY CHECK PLUS - WESTERN MARYLAND MAP (n.d.): n. pag. University of Maryland. Web. 24 July 2014. <http://smartgrowth.umd.edu/assets/documents/rcp/western_maryland_guidebook_section.pdf>. This website article will be very helpful because it examines a lot about the population, economics, and some geographical information. These are three sections that I am definitely planning to work on.

"Appalachian League (Rookie) Encyclopedia and History." Baseball-Reference.com. N.p., n.d. Web. 25 July 2014. <http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/league.cgi?code=APPY&class=Rk>. Baseball Reference is a very good website for updated information on all baseball teams, both minor and major league. They have some history and all of the teams that I need to update the Wikipedia article with.

"Billsportsmaps.com." Billsportsmapscom. N.p., n.d. Web. 25 July 2014. <http://billsportsmaps.com/?p=21368>. This website also has really good information on the History of the Appalachian league. It will be useful for updating the history section and the different teams.

E.Kassel (talk) 20:53, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria:Don't want to rush you, but do you think you could finish up reviewing proposals today? I'm asking students to have a draft of article edits by tomorrow and these last two are eager to hear from you. Let me know. I can try to respond to them too, but your insight is so much more valuable. Thanks for all your help! Matthewvetter (talk) 17:49, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mkak8 Ambassador Proposal

Hello Ambassador Nikkimaria and thank you for helping us with our course! I have decided on a couple articles that I believe could be improved upon. The first article I targeted for revision was the article about the Shelton Laurel Massacre. I had never heard of this event until I came across the article in the WikiProject page for Appalachia. I noticed that the page is start-class and rather light on information. I could research the topic and add in more details. The next article that I identified was the page for the novel Cold Mountain. This is a story about a Civil War deserter travelling through the Appalachian region to return home to his lover. The WikiProject page for Appalachia said that there was no critical reception section on the Wikipedia article. I think I could look up some reviews of the novel and add in some details on what I discover. I will begin work on these articles via my Sandbox page soon.


Mullan, John. "Cold Mountain by Charles Frazier." The Guardian. Guardian News and Media, 16 Sept. 2011. Web. 25 July 2014. <http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/sep/16/book-club-cold-mountain-frazier>.

This is a reflection on the novel Cold Mountain by John Mullan of The Guardian. The Guardian is a respectable online news outlet and I think I could incorporate some of Mullan’s thoughts on the novel into its Wikipedia page.


"Fiction Book Review: Cold Mountain by Charles Frazier" PublishersWeekly.com. N.p., 01 May 1997. Web. 25 July 2014. <http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-87113-679-4>.

This is a book review of Cold Mountain by Publisher’s Weekly. This a paid subscription-based periodical dedicated to literature. The author of this review makes some adept insights into the novel. I believe I could incorporate some of this information into the Wikipedia article for the novel.


Holt, Karen C. "Frazier's Cold Mountain." Explicator 2005: Humanities Full Text (H.W. Wilson). Web. 25 July 2014.

This is a magazine article that I found through Ohio University’s database search. The article discusses the events of the Shelton Laurel Massacre and how they were portrayed in the film Cold Mountain. I thought I could add a “references in pop culture” section to the Shelton Laurel Massacre Wikipedia article explaining how it was portrayed in film. I did not include link because it is behind a username/password wall.


"COLD MOUNTAIN by Charles Frazier." Kirkus Reviews. N.p., 01 June 1997. Web. 25 July 2014. <https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/charles-frazier/cold-mountain/>.

This is another book review by a seemingly reputable website that employs many editors to review and discuss literature.


Gerard, Phillip. "Atrocity at Shelton Laurel." Our State Magazine. N.p., May 2012. Web. 25 July 2014. <http://www.ourstate.com/atrocity-at-shelton-laurel/>.

This final citation is a very well written magazine article that goes into some depth about the Shelton Laurel Massacre. There seems to be quite a bit of information that could be useful in improving the Wikipedia article.

Mkak8 (talk) 22:00, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of coffee for you!

I haven't read the entire AN discussion yet, though I read the close, and some of your notes. I've never been involved in the infobox war, I think, and I guess I'm glad for that. What I do know is that many, many times I have seen your edits in "my" articles and invariably they were improvements. Thanks for all your good work. I'm not going to tell you you don't need the magic tool to do the work that you do best, which is to make us look better by improving our articles--wait, I just did. Your decision was not an easy one to make, because yes it is a big deal, and I respect you for having taken it. But then, I already respected you greatly before all this. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Drmies, appreciate that. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 July 2014

DYK for Anna Kravtchenko

The DYK project (nominate) 10:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Nikkimaria, I've just given this one the "X" due to major sections being unsourced, but it's Storye book's copyvio discoveries that bother me the most. Can I ask you to take a look, evaluate them, and take whatever action is necessary? Many thanks. (Storye book's computer died shortly after this, and I have no idea when the computer will be fixed, since it's been over a week already.) BlueMoonset (talk) 17:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the worst of the problems from the article - some of Storye book's flags are false positive (I think they're using DupDet?), but there's more that were missed. Spotchecks of that editor's articles going back six months finds another with apparent copying and one with close paraphrasing from a PD but improperly attributed source - not enough to warrant pursuing anything like a CCI, but definitely a concern. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:42, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for checking and doing the appropriate cleanup. I very much appreciate it. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:49, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Clark Kent

Hi Nikki, thank you for leaving feedback at the FAC. I had some follow up questions, and I figured I would put them here since the FAC was closed because you were the only commenter. I don't think there is an issue with primary sources for what is really cut-n-dry information (e.g., the best person to talk about the decision to film something is the person filming it, and often times they only give that information on commentaries or if you're lucky an official companion book), you mentioned "questionable sources". I wanted to know which ones you thought were questionable. If it's something that I can replace, or explain better than I'll be happy to work on that. I can work on the consistency issues with the formatting of the quotes and the sources. I've noticed that people have come in from time to time to change things, and I never checked to see that the formatting appeared the same. Again, I appreciate your feedback. :)  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 15:13, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bignole, I don't mean to suggest that we should avoid primary sources entirely - I agree that in many cases they provide good information that isn't readily available elsewhere. However, when easily more than half of the sources in an article are primary/non-independent, that is to me a red flag. As to questionable sources, I would query the following at FAC: DVD Verdict; ifMagazine (for the moment because of the dead link, as I can't assess it properly); About.com; Fancast (again, for the moment because it's dead); KryptonSite; Ain't It Cool; AllYourTV (site suspended?); VoicesFromKrypton; Popdirt; Joe Acevedo; chiff. It's quite possible that some of these are justifiable - I just don't know the topic area well enough to do that. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the apprehension when seeing a lot of primary sources. Which are you viewing as "primary". If it's the episodes, then they are really only sourcing the plot information (as I cited every individual episode where necessary, as opposed to just saying "In episode X..."). I'll go through them all and not only check the deadlinks, but review if there is a better source for the information where applicable. I know that a lot of the more questionable sources were used to source basic info like dates or Award nominations for the actor. Like I said, I'll review them again and see what's what. There are a few that I know are typical sources for TV and Film news, and others that I don't recall very well and need to see how they are being used. Any other suggestions?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 03:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Primary sources includes the episodes, the novels (novelizations?), comic books, etc. You could also check to see whether there have been any discussions of any of these sources at WP:RSN. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Glicken

Hey Nikkimaria! Would you mind giving me input on the lead infobox image in Harry Glicken? I know it came from a USGS source, but they recently redesigned their website and it seems to have been lost. All my attempts to find the image have come up fruitless. But it's the only PD picture I've been able to find of Glicken on the internet. Any ideas on what to do? Thanks, ceranthor 18:14, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ceranthor, there are two tools that are your friends when you lose an image source but you know it was online: archives like Wayback Machine, and image matchers like TinEye. In this case Archive.org is the winner; the TinEye results take a bit of massaging, but the USGS credit is confirmed via a now-broken link at Scientific American. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:40, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thanks for your help. ceranthor 02:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

childhood obesity

Hi Nikkimaria - I was looking to add some more global data to the Childhood Obesity page but see it is semi-protected. I don't want to insert problematic content or bluster into a controversial area. I want to be particularly sensitive because I have a conflict of interest. The data I'd like to add comes from the Global Burden of Disease study. Hoping for some guidance here. Savannah38 (talk) 18:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]