Hello Yngvadottir; My interest in the last few months has been to expand the material in the biography for the Russian scientist [[Alexander Luria]] when I learned that you might have an occasional interest in enhancing/improving various Wikipedia pages to peer review status. The material which I expanded is all documented yet it seems to lack enough verve to refine it towards peer review. Is this a biography which might be of interest for you to consider for possible improvement either individually or jointly? Cheers. [[User:FelixRosch|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; color:maroon">FelixRosch</span>]] ([[User talk:FelixRosch|<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">TALK</font>]]) 21:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello Yngvadottir; My interest in the last few months has been to expand the material in the biography for the Russian scientist [[Alexander Luria]] when I learned that you might have an occasional interest in enhancing/improving various Wikipedia pages to peer review status. The material which I expanded is all documented yet it seems to lack enough verve to refine it towards peer review. Is this a biography which might be of interest for you to consider for possible improvement either individually or jointly? Cheers. [[User:FelixRosch|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; color:maroon">FelixRosch</span>]] ([[User talk:FelixRosch|<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">TALK</font>]]) 21:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
:{{ping|FelixRosch}} I'm honored, but I don't actually have much aptitude for or experience with the assessment systems for articles. Also, since my Russian is of a ludicrously low level, I wouldn't be able to help remedy what appears to be the biggest problem with the article, its heavy reliance on one source. (I also have extremely limited understanding of the fields in which he worked.) However, I went through it from an organizational and writing point of view and did a thorough job on the biographical sections and a much more limited job on the sections at the end summarizing his research. I added one hidden note on the date of a book, and I note that that book doesn't appear in the list of books at the end. I hope the edit and this note are helpful. I agree, it's a worthy article to aim for a higher standard with. [[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir#top|talk]]) 00:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
:{{ping|FelixRosch}} I'm honored, but I don't actually have much aptitude for or experience with the assessment systems for articles. Also, since my Russian is of a ludicrously low level, I wouldn't be able to help remedy what appears to be the biggest problem with the article, its heavy reliance on one source. (I also have extremely limited understanding of the fields in which he worked.) However, I went through it from an organizational and writing point of view and did a thorough job on the biographical sections and a much more limited job on the sections at the end summarizing his research. I added one hidden note on the date of a book, and I note that that book doesn't appear in the list of books at the end. I hope the edit and this note are helpful. I agree, it's a worthy article to aim for a higher standard with. [[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir#top|talk]]) 00:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
::Hello Yngvadottir; That was really quite a re-write on Alexander Luria. You have put your finger on the main issue which is that there is only one biography about him even thirty years after his death. His research is, however, quoted repeatedly and repeatedly even in current research. For further development there are two paths open to me, which might center upon his close friendship with the famous Russian scientist [[Lev Vygotsky]] and the friendship which he developed with one his patients who also has a Wikipedia page about him. Luria wrote a well-known book about this patient with a brain injury. Vygotsky died in the thirties, and the book about his well-known patient only came out after WWII. I am asking if you think, in the absence of more biographies on Luria, if integrating the information of these two well-known friends would move the article closer to peer review quality in your opinion. (Vygotsky by comparison has had 5 biographies written about him). With greeting of the New Year. [[User:FelixRosch|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; color:maroon">FelixRosch</span>]] ([[User talk:FelixRosch|<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">TALK</font>]]) 19:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Probably, although they seem to have wanted to demonstrate how many china cups they had more than to invite that many people to partake with them :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 01:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Hills have a Chinese export blue and white tea service and bowls, with a Yixing clay teapot and a silver water jug; in the fireplace a large Chinese vase with a lion on the lid (maybe a Dog of Fo that has been misinterpreted by the artist). Above the fireplace handpainted wallpaper showing a European idea of a Chinese scene. On the mantelpiece a bound volume of menus from the Chinese takeaway Wok This Way. At a guess, she's got a silk work bag tied to her left arm, and is winding silk onto a bobbin. He's demonstrating that men are good at multitasking; picking belly lint with his right hand and playing pocket billiards with his left. Actually the whole setup is reminiscent of a photographer's studio rather than afternoon tea. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 08:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
HERE IT STARTS Aczel
Sigh - these art collectors are heavy dealing with. now we have complete description a la Sotheby... Listen, I found this article, György Aczél - and the thing is that it's rather more than the article say. He was Jew, was in prison and .. still managed somehow to reach high posts. This kind of article we should have more of ... Well, not the one we have now, but what we could have on him. Maybe The Portal of Jews could help .. to? It shows how these people lived behind the Iron curtain... Hafspajen (talk) 17:00, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Listen to this:
György Aczél grew up in an orphanage, worked in construction, and performed as an actor. He participated in the Ha-Shomer ha-Tsa‘ir youth movement and later joined the underground Communist Party in 1935. Arrested in 1942, he worked as a forced laborer. During the German occupation, he participated in the resistance movement and in rescuing Jews. After World War II, Aczél was associated with the Budapest administration of the Communist Party. He became party secretary of the counties of Zemplén (1946) and Baranya (1948), and also served in Hungary’s parliament. In 1948, he joined the party’s presidential board. Arrested in 1949 and condemned to life imprisonment, he was released in August 1954 and charges against him were dismissed. He then became the director of a state-owned construction company. After the Soviet invasion of Hungary in November 1956, Aczél joined the executive board of the reformed Communist Party. Though he represented a moderate political position, during the first meeting after the revolution (in mid-1957), he sharply criticized the party’s former chief ideologue, József Révai (1889–1959) for his orthodox views, significantly increasing his own political role.
There are one or two native English speaking editors who will check out the grammar and usage on an article by an editor with a user name starting with the three characters "Haf". My name is on that list. Ask me such questions any time. Cullen328Let's discuss it08:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Whatwillbesorry. Thanks Cullen - I have never forbid anyone from editing it, I'm just insecure about the topic. He is Jew - and I think that even there are some far away Jewish ascendencia in my family -it's rather distant and I don't know much of the related topics. Hafspajen (talk) 09:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It was pretty bad art, Hafs, and badly printed and not even Soviet Realism. Maybe work backwards; his activities as Cultural Supremo must have left a mark on the film industry. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 10:30, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid that after a further 12 hours or so it's now FUBAR'd beyond my ability to make sense of it. If you can establish what name should be used for the city, then admins with better forensic skills and a better ability to keep things straight should merge to fix the copy-pastes. But a history merge is extremely difficult to undo once done, which is why I didn't try. If I were you I would focus first on establishing what name to use, with sources. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:18, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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The Israel one did indeed look spammy, and the Russian one might be better used as a reference, but I wrestled with pending changes and then just edited the previous version - keeping and fully identifying the Russia one and junking the Israel one. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:39, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, much better now. This way probably New York Times has to be removed to because they use ads, I have been watching this guy roaming around removing things that was not quite necessary. Hafspajen (talk) 14:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yngvadottir, an editor who we worked together a couple of times now reverted me fourth times on an article we were once working together. He reverts to a layout that is uneven and add one picture https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hans_Baluschek&diff=prev&oldid=638924215 crashing the references. Lately tried to fix to something acceptable but he still reverts to same layout, this is breaking the three revert and editwar. Even if we were on friendly basis this is not very nice. Need a second oppinion and somebody who can explain rules. Hafspajen (talk) 19:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that after, in your and his edits, but didn't go look - however, it should be on the article talk page, esp. since you've been edit warring over it. I suspect you have been seeing different things because you have your computers set up differently. Sorry, that's all the advice I have really. I hope you can patch up the disagreement. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
How? This is not a discussion, this is careless and insulting. If you don't help, I will go and report it for 1) breaking the three revert rule. 2) Because SOMEBODY has to expllain that this is no way behaving. He is in this very moment blockable because he reverted me four times, right. Pluss, he asks me do this do that, and this is the thanks, just read this now deleted exchange. Help me please.. and two days after behaving like this.... I had enough problems in my private life and a whole lot other things. If no admin is at least explaining him that
I don't think this is fixable. Again somebody suddenly behaving like they were out of their mind. Read just User talk:Hafspajen#Hilfe bitte! Oh, than I was good to have. But now ... edir war! And it was MY work the layout, it was my work that blasted Winter article - and I don't usually go editwarring with people who are nice to me. No, if somebody from outside is not getting into this - explaing that it is not OK editwarring - I AM NOT interested. I am not here to help people just for getting kicked in the as as a thank. Hafspajen (talk) 22:39, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am tired of Wikipedia, I am seriously thinking of stopping editing soon. Maybe in a short while.
This is not fun, people getting crazy like this.
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I seriously think that this is not fixable if someone from the outside is not stepping in. Hafspajen (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Talking about Yule log, someome thinks this is doubtful
Steht schwarz und schweiget
Norway is the birthplace of the Yule log. Traditionally the Norwegians kept the season bright with a Yule log. It literally formed the center of the celebration since it was frequently an entire tree that could only partly fit into the fireplace and so extended well out into the middle of the living room. The ancient Norse used the Yule log in their celebration of the return of the sun at winter solstice. "Yule" came from the Norse word hweol, meaning wheel. The Norse believed that the sun was a great wheel of fire that rolled towards and then away from the earth This tradition dates back to the Norse Yule log. It is probably also responsible for the popularity of log-shaped cheese, cakes, and desserts during the holidays. As it burned it would be pushed farther into the fire to provide continuous light and warmth through the whole Christmas season. <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.thehistoryofchristmas.com/traditions/norway.htm|title=Yule log, traditions in Norway|publisher=|accessdate=25 September 2014}}</ref>
The derivation from hweol is a bit dubious to me; that would need a more scholarly reference. Also I'm not sure about the method of burning the log - longhouses had long firepits rather than fireplaces at one end. But yes, that is almost certainly the origin of the Yule log cakes, etc. And the Yule log is not exclusively Norwegian. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:12, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ad festivum ignem or Christblock in German. Paulus Stephanus Cassel thinks the tradition is based on a custom to allow a "Forstfrevel", meaning poor people could steal a christmas log without being punished, but just on Christms, so they didnt have the time to hack it to smaller pieces. The explanation with ancient Norse sounds like a James George Frazer continuity story, which is, as a rule of thumb, always and everywhere wrong ;) Serten II (talk) 18:31, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There's a massive amount of work on Norse Yule in various Scandinavian languages; the log was also a tradition in England, and fits well with the fact it's a 12-day festival. But I avoid editing such articles, so I won't dig for sources :-) Cassel's idea is interesting, but the forests were commons before they were hunting and agricultural preserves. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:21, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dear, the tragedy of the commons article was sort of climate change disaster for me. I could do some edits on Commons and forestry however, de:Deutscher Wald, de:Holznot were easy game. I am not sure wether Frazer applies on Yule, as I think it was not "covered as christian" as he claims for xmas or eastern. Serten II (talk) 19:57, 23 December 2014 (UTC) PS.: Just found that Yule is Rauhnacht, my ballpark antifrazer guess would be 12 for 12 apostles, but dont put me to court for that ;)[reply]
Rauhnächte, yes. I see from the discussion on the talk page that the article previously had citations from Hilda Ellis Davidson among others. Right now it's short on the Germanic/Norse scholarship and strong on the skeptics, but not unbalanced enough for me to wade in '-) No, it's definitely not the apostles. :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 20:29, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like the main issue here is that we have good old Ronald Hutton as the primary cited source rather than experts in the field like Hilda Ellis Davidson. I'll take a look at it later and rid it of its Huttonisms and bring out material from scholars in more appropriate fields. :bloodofox: (talk) 21:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hafspajen, what u expect? Norway is a Frazer country: It came out of those small change countys, it ceized to exist after 1349 and Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson had to construct an anthem and a language to get it back 1905. But everybody and his neighbor will tell you about the vikings ;) Serten II (talk) 06:15, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That is of course a deep truth. Prince Serten II has told us that. My computer doesn't like Serten II - wants to have Petersen II instead... Hafspajen (talk) 04:06, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello!
I wanted to leave quick message about where you reverted[1] me in the article. It was the correct thing to do and I want to apologize for those grammatical changes getting lost in my revert. Somehow in the process of reverting User:Pagesclo's edit your got caught up in that. They are certainly improvements.
Again, I apologize. ♪Tstorm(talk)17:43, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if you still have this article on your watchlist (don't even ask me why I do), but in case you don't, there is a new editor making many changes to the article. As I recall, you were far better able to navigate through the thicket of issues associated with the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dear no, I had completely forgotten about that. I see our earlier friend added some stuff after I stopped looking, too. Thanks for the heads-up - I'll go through it when I have a clear block of time (am actually up after my bedtime). Yngvadottir (talk) 21:28, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think this editor is a remover. the kind of editor who removes things and calls it spam when actualy it is not, you remember the Chistmas article, removing New Your Times, because of the adds? Same user. Just see the last comment on his talk. I also have a feeling that it might be a sock - no, not that kind of sock, but another one. Once upon a time there was an editor who had this behaviour, now blocked. Hafspajen (talk) 01:38, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, am at work, things have been very busy and I haven't had a stretch of uninterrupted clear-headed time to do much - see above also. I'll look. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:20, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hafspajen and German-reading talk page stalkers: The best solution would be to turn Hohenburg Castle, which currently redirects to Lenggries, into an article. The thing is ... that would most naturally be de:Schloss Hohenburg (Lenggries), which is what the creator of the redirect must have intended; its use by Adolf I of Luxembourg is mentioned in the Lengries article, although it isn't bolded there as a redirected term should be. But that's less interesting (to me at least) than de:Hohenburg (Lenggries). We already have a Hohenburg DAB page, which of course mentions neither. Both have an adequate list of books about them to justify an article - although some of those listed at the Schloß article are actually about the ruined Burg! - so I guess I or somebody/bodies else will have to create both articles here. (By the way Hohenburg (Alsace) redirects to Château de Hohenbourg - that redirect was at the totally German Hohenburg (Elsass) but I moved it without leaving a redirect). Yngvadottir (talk) 05:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I see your IP friend has made further personal attacks against me here [2], calling me stupid, as well as calling Phil Knight stupid. He also accuses me again of following him around, harrassing and stalking, when I have continued to make zero edits on articles he has edited. I assume you will continue to defend him and continue not sanctioning him for these attacks. When you agreed to monitor this guy, I did think you would uphold WP:NPA as admins are supposed to do. You do know that editors are not allowed to call each other stupid over and over again? You tell him to quit using attack words and what happens? He completely ignores you because he knows you are a soft touch. I am already unable to interact with this IP because he makes personal attacks against me which are ignored. Like the edit warring and the personal attacks and threats made to others. Even when I complain about him breaking the rules he abuses me. He will now come here and abuse me further, no doubt. I do wonder how long this has to continue, and how long my belief that this IP is, inexplicably, immune to all Wikipedia's rules and regulations will continue to be true. Bretonbanquet (talk) 16:12, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for tipping me off, I seem to usually be the last to spot them. They did get blocked last time, but I apologise for their having come back swinging this time; I can probably only unblock them once. I've left a note that I hope will help. I do however hope you will judge their edits on the merits; Wikipedia has developed a lot of bias against IPs, and whatever this person's reasons for not registering are, that's their prerogative. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:37, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I apologise if I came across rudely above, and thanks for your reply. I haven't seen all his edits and I don't check on them because in general, his edits aren't the problem. Most of his edits are fine, but when anyone challenges his edits (for any reason) we get conflict. I don't think the years of conflict are worth his edits. I also have no problem with IPs in general, and I have (to the best of my memory) never called the guy a vandal as some have. But I do object to being insulted in a part of the internet where abuse is supposed to be disallowed. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 16:45, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Your possible interest in improving biography articles
Hello Yngvadottir; My interest in the last few months has been to expand the material in the biography for the Russian scientist Alexander Luria when I learned that you might have an occasional interest in enhancing/improving various Wikipedia pages to peer review status. The material which I expanded is all documented yet it seems to lack enough verve to refine it towards peer review. Is this a biography which might be of interest for you to consider for possible improvement either individually or jointly? Cheers. FelixRosch (TALK) 21:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@FelixRosch: I'm honored, but I don't actually have much aptitude for or experience with the assessment systems for articles. Also, since my Russian is of a ludicrously low level, I wouldn't be able to help remedy what appears to be the biggest problem with the article, its heavy reliance on one source. (I also have extremely limited understanding of the fields in which he worked.) However, I went through it from an organizational and writing point of view and did a thorough job on the biographical sections and a much more limited job on the sections at the end summarizing his research. I added one hidden note on the date of a book, and I note that that book doesn't appear in the list of books at the end. I hope the edit and this note are helpful. I agree, it's a worthy article to aim for a higher standard with. Yngvadottir (talk) 00:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Yngvadottir; That was really quite a re-write on Alexander Luria. You have put your finger on the main issue which is that there is only one biography about him even thirty years after his death. His research is, however, quoted repeatedly and repeatedly even in current research. For further development there are two paths open to me, which might center upon his close friendship with the famous Russian scientist Lev Vygotsky and the friendship which he developed with one his patients who also has a Wikipedia page about him. Luria wrote a well-known book about this patient with a brain injury. Vygotsky died in the thirties, and the book about his well-known patient only came out after WWII. I am asking if you think, in the absence of more biographies on Luria, if integrating the information of these two well-known friends would move the article closer to peer review quality in your opinion. (Vygotsky by comparison has had 5 biographies written about him). With greeting of the New Year. FelixRosch (TALK) 19:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, am about to add a bit more from ArtSlant. Blame Google - they increasingly only show you what they think you want to see. I haven't found newspaper articles yet - maybe Drmies will be able to. I have a very busy day ahead of me, as you may be able to tell from a glance upwards on this page, but I'm going to try to find the other articles you mentioned and see whether any are salvageable. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:14, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey I'm Annoyingbot II. Thank you for your contributions on Wikipedia! Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Viking , you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Monday I'm just telling you that I was going to tell you something but then I don't know what. If I've made any errors, tell my Operator. Thanks Annoyingbot (Annoy) 10:39, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
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