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Brad Jones (10 December 2015). "Beneath every presidential candidate's Wikipedia page lies a vicious tug-of-war". Digital Trends. Retrieved 10 December 2015. With some four thousand edits in the history of the Sanders entry alone, it can be difficult to understand exactly why individuals are sitting down at a computer to perfect Wikipedia's presentation of the man himself.

main picture

can a 2007 date be appended in the text right below the picture. the picture is quite old and people should know they are looking at an old picture of the guy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.135.77 (talk) 06:36, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a problem with this. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 07:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the photo should instead be amended to one that's available in the free use kit on his website? https://berniesanders.com/media-kit/ There's three here that are much better and have free use. 98.169.44.13 (talk) 16:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The current infobox photograph is also in the public domain. I would be a bit wary of using photos from his free use kit instead of his official senate portrait because the source, berniesanders.com, is a base for his political campaign. To me, that seems less neutral than his official senate portrait. Airplaneman ✈ 19:55, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's better to use a more recent photo regardless. Is there another public domain image from within the past couple years? 98.169.44.13 (talk) 04:13, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in agreement that a more recent photograph would be better for his main article. But besides getting one from his press kit (which I believe is a good idea), the Bernie Sanders sidebar recently changed to a more modern photo. What if we just swapped the two? Grammarxxx ^{(What'd I do this time?)} 00:54, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama, just have the same picture for the sidebar and the main pic. Airplaneman ✈ 03:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to say it, but at that point, I think you are getting a bit picky (or assuming that others would be that way). It's a picture. How is the official portrait "more neutral" in a literal sense? If you were talking about actual information, sure, but it's just an image. Dustin (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, it definitely is nitpicky. Airplaneman ✈ 03:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I suppose I am picky. I just think that the photo doesn't really match what he looks like and a more recent photo would do better. I don't see any issue about neutrality, though. I just think a more recent photo would accurately portray what Bernie Sanders looks like. 98.169.44.13 (talk) 21:27, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Main problem would be using the same pic twice in the article...i like the option for the image used in the sidebar but its quite grainy (tried fixing it though), there is a really high quality image from September this year but people don't like it because Bernie is "looking serious" in that pic, they want a image of him smiling like the others candidates..--Ste moc 04:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why not use the photo on his Twitter profile now? That's not on the BernieSanders.com webpage, and is part of that free-use kit anyway. Thoughts? 98.169.44.13 (talk) 21:29, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Its still not free, "free-use" mediakit are not always free, thy are usually under the non-commercial licence which we cannot use, and twitter images are LQ so we cannot find the exif of the image used and find out if it has been taken by a government official or not...so no....we can't use those.--Ste moc 02:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just took a couple of pictures at a rally. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207516237598081&set=a.10207516263918739&type=3&theater and https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207516237638082&set=a.10207516263918739&type=3&theater. If folks think either of these is worth using, I'm happy to donate. Ma^t_chups 22:03, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Adding health update

Today Senator Sanders underwent or is currently undergoing an "elective hernia procedure" in Washington, D.C.. Should we add this to the article as an update on his personal life? Sources -> NBC News, CNN News, and ABC News. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:10, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it carries enough weight. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 23:15, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A big issue to me with an older candidate like this is indeed health and longevity. I would like to see added some data about how old his parents lived to be -- or maybe they're still alive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Front-runner for Time Person of the Year

Should it be acknowledged that Bernie maintains a strong lead as the front-runner for TIME's Person of the Year according to recent polls? Voting closes on December 4 at 11:59pm and he's at a 10.5% (1st place) compared to Malala Yousafzai's 5.6% (2nd place). --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 01:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! Gandydancer (talk) 01:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gandydancer Thanks for the feedback! Where would this info be added? Header? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hat note

I don't think we need a hat note linking to Bernie Saunders, so I removed it. It's unlikely someone would arrive here looking for the hockey player. The names have distinct pronunciations, and Saunders is far less notable. —Guan aco 10:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

the pronunciations are similar and I think the two could easily be confused. Joeykai (talk) 17:32, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can see someone searching for Bernie Saunders when they want the politician, with this interview in mind. The other direction seems fairly implausible, both phonetically and considering their relative notability. —Guan aco 08:07, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Other political affiliations: Liberty Union (1971-1979)"

According to Bernie Sanders's book Outsider in the White House, (the "White" edition perhaps also needing to replace Outsider in the House in or be added to the "Further reading" section,) page 25, It was "After [the gubernatorial campaign of 1976]" that he "decided to leave the Liberty Union Party". This can also be used as a citation. Tolathar Strongbow (talk) 20:28, 21 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tolathar Strongbow (talk • contribs) 20:16, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not a candidate for president

It is not correct to state that Sanders "is a candidate for President of the United States in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.". He is hoping to be selected as a candidate by the Democrats. That is not at all the same.Royalcourtier (talk) 23:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, everyone running for president is a candidate for president. No one is a nominee yet, but that's different.Wukai (talk) 23:10, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think that at least at this point in the process, when people read "the 2016 U.S. presidential election", they understand that it means the entire process, i.e. the primaries and caucuses, super-delegate selection (if they still do that), conventions, and general election. Sanders is a candidate in the "presidential election." If he drops out during the primaries, he will cease being a candidate. If he makes it to the convention but loses there, he will cease being a candidate. But for right now he is a candidate, and of course the same is true for Clinton, O'Malley, Trump and however-many others are still in the running on the Republican side. Neutron (talk) 23:29, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is correct to say that he is a candidate for the Democratic nomination. But all these articles should be consistent with one another, so if any changes are recommended they should be made to guidelines that all articles must follow. TFD (talk) 23:41, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Currently he is being nominated for the presidential candidacy. As far as I'm concerned, Sanders along with the other running democrats are currently considered candidates either for the nominations or presidency through nomination. (N0n3up (talk) 17:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC))[reply]

This is absurd, we've long called people vying for the party nominations as candidates for president. I cannot understand this objection at all.

Brooklyn College

Sanders is not an "alumnus" of Brooklyn College, since he transferred and graduated from another school. This keeps being re-added, but should not be, because it's inaccurate. Steeletrap (talk) 00:45, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

competitiveness

I have been wondering what Sanders has to do say about promoting the competitiveness of the American economy and i have found nothing anywhere (not in Wiki nor without). It is very clear that he thinks american government policies and law currently favors the rich over the poor and wants to use government to reduce economic inequality. but what does he say about growing the economy as a whole - about helping companies generate high-paying jobs - and keep high-paying jobs - here in the US? It would be useful to add this to the article... Maybe he never talks about it.... Jytdog (talk) 23:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC) WP:NOTFORUM Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 23:59, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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	I have been wondering what Sanders has to do say about promoting the competitiveness of the American economy and i have found nothing anywhere (not in Wiki nor without). It is very clear that he thinks american government policies and law currently favors the rich over the poor and wants to use government to reduce economic inequality. but what does he say about growing the economy as a whole - about helping companies generate high-paying jobs - and keep high-paying jobs - here in the US? It would be useful to add this to the article... Maybe he never talks about it.... [[User:Jytdog\|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog\|talk]]) 23:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)		I have been wondering what Sanders has to do say about promoting the competitiveness of the American economy and i have found nothing anywhere (not in Wiki nor without). It is very clear that he thinks american government policies and law currently favors the rich over the poor and wants to use government to reduce economic inequality. but what does he say about growing the economy as a whole - about helping companies generate high-paying jobs - and keep high-paying jobs - here in the US? It would be useful to add this to the article... Maybe he never talks about it.... [[User:Jytdog\|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog\|talk]]) 23:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
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