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:{{ping|Walkerklw}} please read the FAQ at the top of this page. [[User:Clpo13|clpo13]]<sub>([[User_talk:Clpo13|talk]])</sub> 23:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC) |
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:: I agree it is not factual and should be reverted from the talk page. [[User:kozak4512|kozak4512] ([[User talk:kozak4512|talk]]) 22:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC) |
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Strange citation
One of the two citations for "Critics have cited the channel as detrimental to the integrity of news overall" is to a book about Ethnomusicology, by an Ethnomusicologist who obviously has no professional expertise on american politics. If there's no objections, I'd remove that citation. - LilySophie (talk) 22:38, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Article needs to be cleaned up.
The article contains highly controversial statements in the opening paragraph about FOX News' perceived bias, they're support for Republican candidates, and accusations that they attack members of the Democrat Party and left-wing politics in general. Similar claims are routinely made about CNN and MSNBC for the other side, yet their pages do not show this information in the opening paragraph. All three articles should get the same scrutiny for their bias and politics, and this information probably should not be in the introductory paragraphs. Once this article is cleaned up, it should be locked from editing by anyone other than the Wikipedia team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.187.153 (talk) 03:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
I agree. 2001:5B0:4BCB:5F48:91E8:1785:F035:3EEA (talk) 22:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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I asked for the word "conservative to be removed as below. It was. Thank you.
REMOVE the word "conservative" from the "...is an American pay television conservative news channel..." That or ADD the word "liberal" news channel to the following pages: CNN, MSNBC, ABCNews, CBSNews, NBCNews, NPR, and the New York Times. RonLevitt (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: Very well sourced. The other articles are WP:OTHERCONTENT, and not relevant. O3000 (talk) 01:08, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: Same reason as stated by Objective3000 - FlightTime (open channel) 20:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
web site starting in December 1995
The source used doesn´t say anywhere that it was created then, a new source needs to be put there 12.153.26.234 (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Recentism & omissions in article's scope
The article tends towards focus on 2012 and forward. However, it had been evident, some would argue, since at least Robert Greenwald's Outfoxed, 2004, that the channel was systematically biased towards Republican views well before then. So, the instances of misinformation and bias from prior to 2012 need attention.Dogru144 (talk) 17:59, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Acquisition by The Walt Disney Company
Here is the news: https://www.foxnews.com/updates The Walt Disney Company owns Fox News now. Any objections to including this in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diligens (talk • contribs) 06:29, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
The source you cite does not say it belongs to Disney: "21st Century Fox and The Walt Disney Corporation have completed a corporate transaction. As a result, FOX News is now part of the newly formed Fox Corporation."
The Fox Corporation was spun off from 21st Century Fox, and covers the assets which were not sold to Disney. Dimadick (talk) 06:46, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Disney owns ABC. It is illegal to own two of the four major news networks. Therefore, as a part of the deal, Fox News was spun out of the Disney purchase into its own company, Fox Corp. I believe it's traded, but still held mostly by the Murdoch family. O3000 (talk) 11:22, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
User:Soibangla and User:SportingFlyer This link calls it a "merger" and an "acquisition", and it is sourced by Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/fox-corporation-becomes-stand-alone-company-as-disney-deal-set-to-close --Diligens (talk) 12:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it was an acquisition. But, Disney did not get all of it. Fox News was spun off into a separate company named Fox Corporation which is not owned by Disney. O3000 (talk) 12:51, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think that goes contrary to the very concepts of acquisition and merger. Do you have a source that says clearly what you are saying? --Diligens (talk) 12:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Spin offs are not uncommon is M&As. [1] O3000 (talk) 13:02, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I found: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2019/03/20/what-the-disney-fox-deal-means-for-rupert-murdochs-fortune/#306a25bd312e and it looks like Murdoch owns a major share of Disney as well as the newly created Fox Corporation, not owned by Disney. Interesting that Murdoch now owns a major portion of Disney and Fox Corporation at the same time. --Diligens (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Interesting as that may be, it doesn’t support your assertion that Disney owns Fox News. soibangla (talk) 18:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I know, I just wrote, "not owned by Disney".--Diligens (talk) 19:41, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Interesting as that may be, it doesn’t support your assertion that Disney owns Fox News. soibangla (talk) 18:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I found: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2019/03/20/what-the-disney-fox-deal-means-for-rupert-murdochs-fortune/#306a25bd312e and it looks like Murdoch owns a major share of Disney as well as the newly created Fox Corporation, not owned by Disney. Interesting that Murdoch now owns a major portion of Disney and Fox Corporation at the same time. --Diligens (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- It clearly says in the article, "Fox Sports and Fox Broadcasting join Fox News as assets that will help make up Fox Corporation — which is officially a stand-alone, publicly traded company." and [2] makes it clear the company is NOT owned by Disney. SportingFlyer T·C 23:06, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Note that there's a fair amount of sourced info at Fox Corporation which should have cleared up any confusion before adding incorrect info to articles. This includes the name of the NASDAQ stocks. (Well not sure about the sourced bit but you can easily confirm the existence of the stock from the linked primary sources.) Also if the info was already in the article proper, then this is even more reason not to modify the lead with incorrect info. Remember the lead should always reflect what's in the article, so people should only be modifying the lead if the article is modified (whether by you at the same time, or someone before) or it's otherwise contradicting the info in the article proper. Nil Einne (talk) 04:20, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Spin offs are not uncommon is M&As. [1] O3000 (talk) 13:02, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think that goes contrary to the very concepts of acquisition and merger. Do you have a source that says clearly what you are saying? --Diligens (talk) 12:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
The statement below is subjective. Not noticed on other news channels wiki pages
->Fox News has been described as practicing biased reporting in favor of the Republican Party, the George W. Bush and Donald Trump administrations and conservative causes while slandering the Democratic Party and spreading harmful propaganda intended to negatively affect its members' electoral performances.[9][10][11][12] Critics have cited the channel as detrimental to the integrity of news overall.[13][14] Fox News employees have said that news reporting operates independently<-
Above from page. Does not appear to be objective or in similar format to comments for to other news channel cnn. Wpow (talk) 01:13, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Some perceive a failure to overtly support their guy’s agenda as overtly supporting the other guy’s agenda. This is a logical fallacy. soibangla (talk) 01:56, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- The statement is totally subjective and should be removed from the article. Can I get other people to support.
(talk) 01:46, 6 July 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.63.30.84 (talk)
Biased article, lacks neutrality and substitutes opinions for facts.
Fox News has been described as practicing biased reporting in favor of the Republican Party, the George W. Bush and Donald Trump administrations and conservative causes while slandering the Democratic Party and spreading harmful propaganda intended to negatively affect its members' electoral performances.[9][10][11][12] Critics have cited the channel as detrimental to the integrity of news overall.[13][14] Fox News employees have said that news reporting operates independently of its opinion and commentary programming, and have denied bias in news reporting, while former employees have said that Fox ordered them to "slant the news in favor of conservatives."
This is not a factual paragraph. This is the writers opinion and entire paragraph needs to be re-written to present facts about the network.
5/6/2019 Walkerklw (talk) 22:53, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Walkerklw: please read the FAQ at the top of this page. clpo13(talk) 23:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- I agree it is not factual and should be reverted from the talk page. [[User:kozak4512|kozak4512] (talk) 22:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
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