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== Needs more inclusion of the Wuhan Virus in the article == |
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It would be nice of operatives of the PRC would stop cleaning up this article and removing the one historically significant claim that this city/region has and will be known for for the next 1000 years. The Wuhan virus that came from the Wuhan wet market. |
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This needs the city box, as shown on the Nanjing page. craigTheBrit 18:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Wuhan's climate is humid subtropical (Köppen Cfa) with abundant rainfall and four distinctive seasons. = pretty sure that you mean "distinct seasons", but seasons are, by definition, distinct, why not just leave that adjective out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.84.146 (talk) 02:01, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Soup baozi
I changed Tang bao to Xiaolongbao, but it may be wrong. In Wuhan, there are Xiaolongbao, but they are called Tang bao. Can someone advise? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- It's been a long time since I was in Wuhan, but I think you're right—I heard xiaolongbao in Beijing and, to a lesser extent, Shanghai, but tang bao in Wuhan.
- Although, from what I remember, the real big one in Wuhan is 煎包 (fried baozi). rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 05:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
:I am from Wuhan, bao, means bum, xiaolong, means the little stemer, therefore, xiaolongbao, means small steam bum, tangbao, means, soup bum, jian bao, means stir fried bum, Xiao Long Jian Bao, means little stir fried bum. Bum is just like bread with meat with different size. common size is weight of 50g, the small one is smaller than ping pong ball and about or less 20g(User:azload) —Preceding undated comment added 18:33, 15 July 2011 (UTC).
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Cuisine: Youguo
The Cuisine section mentions "a wide variety of distinctive snacks with a long history in Wuhan, such as ... youguo (a deep-fried twisted dough stick) in the Song and Yuan dynasties". Can you compare/contrast/clarify youguo with Youtiao, which seems to be the same thing. No mention of the term youguo on the youtiao page, so not clear if this is a typo here, or regional name for youtiao, or ... ? 64.7.70.234 (talk) 21:16, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
February 2018 Additions
My goal for the Wuhan article is that the page will be able to go from a C-level article to a B-level article in the coming year or so. To reach this goal, I started today by adding whatever I could find about Wuhan that was already on Wikipedia that wasn't linked or noted on this page. There are undoubtedly some errors, but I hope we can sift through it and make this a top notch page. Wuhan is building two buildings which will be among the top two or three tallest buildings on Earth, and I think it would be a pity if there wasn't a high-quality page about Wuhan on Wikipedia as interest in Wuhan grows. Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:59, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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Health warning
Wuhan is currently under lockdown because there is a deadly virusoutbreak. If you are in Wuhan, minimise contact. For more info look at
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/risk-assessment-outbreak-acute-respiratory-syndrome-associated-novel-coronavirus Lassebeg (talk) 13:10, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- The addition has been removed several times already. The main reason is that this is an encyclopedia article, it's not its purpose to give instructions or warnings. A further problem with that version is that the health warning was in a section of its own above everything else: this means that the lede (the article's introductory section) had ended up part of it (which it ought not to be), and that all the content of the article (including the health warning) had been pushed down after the table of contents. – Uanfala (talk) 13:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Novel?
Article calls this virus 'novel'
The semantics of 'novel' imply a usual positive meaning - how about finding a better word - eg 'uncommon' -- ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robfwoods (talk • contribs) 10:28, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Move some of the intro paragraphs
The intro has become too long. I think some of the last few paragraphs should be moved to other sections, including the coronavirus outbreak paragraph. Ganymede94 (talk) 20:49, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Passing mention of this Wikipedia article in press
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Climate box should not be collapsed by default
I have removed the option to collapse the weather box in the climate section by default. Climate information for a city is essential information and should not be hidden by default. This is the first city article I have seen on wikipedia where the climate table was hidden by default and it is not a good idea (for comparison, see Chicago, Tokyo, Milan, London, etc). Many ordinary readers of wikipedia do not realise that a collapsed box contains hidden information and that they need to click on it to expand it. Oska (talk) 20:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- No evidence for the above assertion on
many ordinary readers
other than WP:IDONTLIKEIT. See New York City#Climate, Boston#Climate; if people are too tech illiterate issue is on them. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 20:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)- To give just one example this article has two very long tables listing sister cities that are not collapsed. The climate weather box is more compact and is far more important information about the city than showing its sister cities. And I find your arrogant dismissal of less tech literate users of wikipedia very concerning; we should make information here as accessible as possible, especially essential information like a city's climate data. Oska (talk) 21:09, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- I have looked at the style guide and, as I would expect, they warn against collapsing content in this way. See MOS:DONTHIDE. So I am using my 3rd edit on this article today to once again make the climate information table viewable by default. Oska (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- You ignored the first sentence in the section MOS:HIDE, which is quoted as "
Scrolling lists, and collapsible templates that toggle text display between hide and show, can interfere with readers' ability to access our content.
"; text referring to prose Open a discussion at Template talk:Weather box if you want to see your crusade through, not violate WP:BRD. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 00:50, 17 March 2020 (UTC)- You have badly (purposefully?) misread the style guide. The weatherbox contains text, you are indulging in sophistry to reinterpret text as meaning prose.
- You ignored the first sentence in the section MOS:HIDE, which is quoted as "
- I have looked at the style guide and, as I would expect, they warn against collapsing content in this way. See MOS:DONTHIDE. So I am using my 3rd edit on this article today to once again make the climate information table viewable by default. Oska (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- But anyway, the third paragraph spells the policy out explicitly with its first sentence bolded. I quote:
Collapsible templates should not conceal article content by default upon page loading. This includes reference lists, tables and lists of article content, image galleries, and image captions.
Please note that tables are specifically mentioned as something that should not be collapsed by default. The style guide then goes on to discuss in the fourth paragraph when it may be allowable to collapse tables. This is when information contained within is 'purely supplementary' or somewhat deprecated. Neither of these conditions apply to the main climate information of a city which is essential, non-supplementary information. Oska (talk) 11:53, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- But anyway, the third paragraph spells the policy out explicitly with its first sentence bolded. I quote:
- Oska’s interpretation appears to be correct, the style guide clearly says that the default should not be collapsed. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 22:33, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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Covid19 / coronavirus
I saw that some information is missing in this article, I will look for links to some news that I read months ago. Ana Gauna (discussão) 13h17min de 21 de março de 2020 (UTC)
- Vi que está faltando algumas informações nesse artigo, vou procurar os links de umas notícias que li meses atrás. Ana Gauna (discussão) 13h17min de 21 de março de 2020 (UTC)
- https://g1.globo.com/ciencia-e-saude/noticia/2020/01/22/cidade-chinesa-de-wuhan-epicentro-do-coronavirus-e-isolada-e-tem-transporte-publico-trens-e-voos-cancelados.ghtml
- https://brasil.elpais.com/internacional/2020-01-21/novo-virus-chines-tem-contaminacao-entre-humanos.html
- https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/mundo/coronavirus-o-que-e-e-como-comecou_i1203294
- https://gauchazh.clicrbs.com.br/saude/noticia/2020/01/coronavirus-confira-como-a-doenca-surgiu-na-china-e-se-espalhou-por-outros-paises-ck5xzklrq03fn01plpktc59dj.html
- Meses atrás li que a provável causa do coronavirus foi o costume dos chineses misturar perto um do outro: cobras, morcegos, e insetos diversos num mercado em Wuhan
- https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/internacional-51453567
- https://veja.abril.com.br/saude/coronavirus-pode-ter-sido-transmitido-por-sopa-de-morcego-e-carne-de-cobra/
- https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/23/coronavirus-timeline-from-wuhan-to-washington-state
- https://time.com/5774366/how-coronavirus-spread-china/
- https://moraremportugal.com/prefeito-de-wuhan-admite-ter-escondido-dados-sobre-coronavirus-e-oferece-seu-cargo/
- Leia histoplasmose = morcegos = https://www.minhavida.com.br/saude/temas/histoplasmose
- Read Histoplasmosis + bats + coronavirus + covid19
- Em Dezembro/2019 eu li jornais de vários idiomas, noticias que falaram que a causa da criação do coronavirus em Wuhan (China) foi o costume dos chineses deixar juntos animais vivos: cobras, morcegos, escorpião, lagartos, e vários tipos diferentes de insetos. Existe notícias em vários idiomas com essa informação em Dezembro/2019 na internet. Ana Gauna (discussão) 18h11min de 21 de março de 2020 (UTC)
- In December/2019 I read newspapers of several languages, news that said that the cause of the creation of the coronavirus in Wuhan (China) was the custom of the Chinese to leave live animals together: snakes, bats, scorpions, lizards, and several different types of insects . There is news in several languages with this information in December / 2019 on the internet. Ana Gauna (talk) 18:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/10/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-update-intl-hnk/index.html
- https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/health/wuhan-coronavirus-timeline-fast-facts/index.html
- https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-51271037
- The article needs an update, although, frankly, I could not find a section about the COVID 19 Pandemic. Retail businesses reopen in Wuhan, China's original coronavirus epicentre https://www.cbc.ca/news/china-wuhan-stores-reopen-1.5514658 ... On Monday, 70 to 80 per cent of shops on the Chuhe Hanjie mall in the city centre were open, but many imposed limits on how many people could enter. Shopkeepers set up dispensers for hand sanitizer and checked customers for signs of fever. Peter K Burian (talk) 22:31, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
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