Talk:List of Mario franchise characters

Toadette split

Toadette article has been 12 years since consensus has been merged, so this is different now and also looks notable. she's now important to more modern games. She is playable main character in several games include New Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Maker 2 and Mario Kart. Also, She is an important character in the story at the Super Mario Party, Super Mario Maker 2 and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker. Kanghuitari (talk) 04:12, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

We split articles based on their depth of coverage in reliable, secondary sources. So it would depend on how much has been written specifically about this character. czar 21:54, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

I have removed the split request as there is nothing to really split from here. If you think Toadette is notable enough for an article, make a draft of it and submit it at AfC, but note that the character actually has to be notable and not just have passing mentions._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:26, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Super Mario wiki

Someone told me that the super Mario wiki is not a reliable source. Why do we have it sourced? It has to be removed The Lord of Falafel (talk) 05:02, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Are you referring to the reference on Fish Bone under the Recurring Enemies section? Useight (talk) 17:20, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

No. I'm referencing some of the most recent edits on the Mario (franchise) page The Lord of Falafel (talk) 01:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Any wiki is deemed unreliable per WP:USERG. If it’s being used as a reference anywhere, it needs to be removed. Sergecross73 msg me 05:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

"Warigi" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Warigi. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:43, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Clean up the page

It’s still badly worded, needs information about enemies, and needs citations to more websites. I’ve already added more to the page, but it needs additional clean up. APersonThat (talk) 08:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 4 July 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Characters in the Mario franchise → Mario characters – The article is no longer a simple list. ~ Arkhandar ^{(message me)} 00:16, 4 July 2020 (UTC) —Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 12:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of moving it, as I do not think it is a controversial move. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 13:59, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. This request appeared in the Malformed requests list because the original current page, List of Mario franchise characters, was renamed to Characters in the Mario franchise, and the former became a redirect to the latter. So I altered this request accordingly. The nominator, Arkhandar, can withdraw this request or let it continue to run as it is, at their discretion. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 17:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

To editor Arkhandar: please respond to the question, "Do you or don't you want to continue this request since the original "list" title has been recently renamed?" If there is no response from you, this move request may result in a procedural closure, and the current title would remain in place. Thanks in advance! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 18:35, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: I'm not entirely familiar with Wikipedia's naming guidelines in this case: the "main" article being Mario (franchise) (with "franchise" being a disambiguation descriptor and not part of the name itself), and this one being about characters in that franchise. So, it would make sense to name it Mario characters, since the disambiguation descriptor would no longer be needed. But perhaps there's a rule that would justify the Characters in the Mario franchise or Mario franchise characters. I'm not sure ~ Arkhandar ^{(message me)} 13:37, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Characters in the Mario franchise is more clear as to what it means, and such articles tend to use that format. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 17:06, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

To editor Arkhandar: this appears to be a choice that is made by consensus, because I see both forms used in the categories. There is even a Category:Mario characters. I have no preference either way, though I love the games and Mario, Luigi, et al. If you decide to let this request continue until it is relisted or closed, then we'll have to wait and see if a consensus for this title change can be achieved. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 05:55, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose current move; most articles go with this format, and I do not find "Mario characters" to be descriptive enough. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 16:00, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose The proposed title could also mean "Characters named Mario". Not descriptive enough._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 09:17, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per Bryn and Zxcvbnm, the name is inappropriate and not descriptive enough. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 20:49, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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Pauline Split

I've been working on a draft for the character Pauline who first appeared in the game Donkey Kong. I think she is notable enough to become an independent article due to being one of the first females in video games and first damsels in distress, and continues to be in the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series. She is also the singer of the two lyrical songs in Super Mario Odyssey and has had a resurgence in recent years. I would continue with the article however there is so much information here already, that its hard to continue with the draft. I would propose either a split from this article to the draft or just a request for help on the draft. I hope to hear back. CaptainGalaxy 22:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Split the page

To me, this page should be restructured. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate depicts several characters (like Mario, Peach and Daisy) as "Super Mario" characters while Yoshi is considered as a "Yoshi series" character. In my opinion, we should split the page and have a "Characters in the LuigiYoshi/Wario/DK/ (ect..) series" here and only keep the lead and main characters appearing in main games AND spin-offs of the "Super Mario" series. For instance, it would mean that DK characters would not appear on this page, while Luigi would appear here and on a page called "Characters in the Luigi series" with more details about his games and the characters featuring in. I think that would be easier since there are a lot of characters (main, antagonists...) in each series.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TeenSacha123 (talk • contribs)

No, leave it as is. That would just cause to much confusion and clutter. Plus, most spin off series, with the exception of Wario, don't have a lot of unique characters (also DK already has one). This article is meant to list characters who fall under the umbrella Super Mario franchise. Also, has Sakurai even mentioned why he split Yoshi from the Mario series, there are barely any characters in the Yoshi series that can qualify as characters besides maybe Kamek and Poochy? CaptainGalaxy 17:43, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

The picture is too old

The image is too old compared to the current appearance of the characters and also because some new characters were introduced/became relevant through the time.