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Happy Easter

Hi. I whish you an happy Easter. Forgive me if I have edited your page. I won't repeat again Dr Salvus 21:58, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Dr Salvus: sorry to have been tardy in replying to you. – Athaenara ✉ 11:11, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DevSecOps

Hello! Can I please see the content that you deleted from DevSecOps? I wish to see exactly what was deletion-worthy about it and why the page has been protected against re-creation. In the meantime, I have put it in as an article request. Thanks Bwrs (talk) 16:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bwrs: As long ago as February 2017, I deleted it once and restored it once. I've had nothing further to do with it, nor will I. – Athaenara ✉ 23:00, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tobias Broeker

→ in re: Tobias Broeker (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), who is user 20th c violin concerto (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 April 11, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tobias Broeker
→ see also: WP:ANI#Single-purpose IP 82.173.133.70, WP:ANI/Archive1064#One-purpose IP 82.173.133.70, User:Uwe Martens block log on German Wikipedia

Restoring Tobias Broeker

Hy! Could you please restore the article Tobias Broeker in my user pages for further completion? Please note that the German article will most likely be kept (see the deletion discussion there). Thanks and best regards, Uwe Martens (talk) 20:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Uwe Martens: I don't care how many pages Wikipedia Deutschland keeps, both these pages were written by the same self-promoter. – Athaenara ✉ 23:00, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In the German discussion it becomes clear that this is not a self-promotion, but a musicological highly relevant work, as several encyclopedically relevant contemporary composers all over the world are represented by this editor! Furthermore, no monetary (advertising) intentions are discernible, neither in the WP-article, nor on the website of the sheet music publisher. Anyway, please restore it in the article namespace for a regular deletion discussion or in my subpages for a review, thx! Uwe Martens (talk) 00:25, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Uwe Martens: I don't know why you think I'd do that. I won't. – Athaenara ✉ 01:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you are right - why should I have assumed that you would follow the arguments? Uwe Martens (talk) 01:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'a musicological highly relevant work, as several encyclopedically relevant contemporary composers all over the world are represented by this editor'? Absolute load of nonsense: if I write a book about Beethoven am I suddenly notable? There are virtually no proper third-party sources that speak about Tobias Broeker as a notable 'musicologist' or 'publisher'. He doesn't become notable just by putting his work on his own website (and writing his own Wikipedia article!). 82.173.133.70 (talk) 06:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Athaenara, please may you add this comment to the review page? I can't. 82.173.133.70 (talk) 06:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that anonIPs cannot be used to create new deletion review pages, but I hadn't read or been told that they couldn't participate in them once opened. Are you sure you cannot add your comments there? – Athaenara ✉ 06:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, sorry. I couldn't edit on the linked 'Deletion review' page, but I could comment on the 'Deletion review/Log/2021 April 11' page. 82.173.133.70 (talk) 07:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good, glad to hear it. – Athaenara ✉ 08:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Tobias Broeker

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Tobias Broeker. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwe Martens (talk • contribs) 01:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Udaan (company) Deletion

Hi, I see that you have deleted the page for Udaan (company) - if possible could you undelete and move that to Draftspace so I can try to improve it. I am **not** trying to promote this company, or any other company - I created articles for multiple companies yesterday (Udaan, CRED, PharmEasy) because these companies recently became unicorns and received a lot of coverage, and I was surprised to find that these had no articles on Wikipedia.

I went through the Wikipedia:Identifying_blatant_advertising article, and I couldn't really find what I did wrong - I didn't refer to the company in first person, nor did I try to promote any of its features (there was ONE line about the company's business and that was just saying "Udaan is a B2B FMCG company". It would really help if you could move these to draftspace, and tell me what I could do to make these seem less "promotion-y". KNivedat (talk) 05:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that I undeleted the page once and moved it to draft space as user KNivedat requested. Another administrator deleted that a day or two later. – Athaenara ✉ 05:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

S795 coffee page deletion

I recently was cleaning out subpages of my account but it seems that somehow an actual wiki article S795 Coffee was also(?) deleted.

The subpage in my user space was the original draft for the wiki article.

The original page I wanted deleted does seem to have been deleted but it seems the other article was as well. Very odd.

Thank you in advance for your help sorting through this.

--Michael.C.Wright (talk) 06:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael.C.Wright: OK, I restored S795 coffee and its talk page and undid your 05:50, 13 April 2021‎ (UTC) edit that blanked the page and tagged it for deletion. Hope all is as it should be now. – Athaenara ✉ 06:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked it and it looks good. Thank you for fixing that. I'm not sure how I was able to blank both and mark both for deletion. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 06:23, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. – Athaenara ✉ 06:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recent deletion of biography of Brian Chater

Hello Athaenara, I recently submitted a biography for Brian Chater, who is a notable person within the Canadian music industry, but it was (very) speedily deleted for the following reason; "...because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic."

I do not understand this at all, because even though the overview may seem to describe Brian in overly glowing terms, all of it can be easily verified as factually correct from multiple reliable sources by simply searching his name. I did list several references as well, which verify his activities at various stages of his life. If the article needs improvement, I am quite happy to do that. I will review the guide, since this is my first article. However, could you please re-instate this article in draft form, so that I can access it and continue to work on it. Any suggestions you have would be appreciated. Also, I thought I had declared that I was close to Brian, which may represent a conflict of interest, but I thought I had written the article from a neutral perspective, if not, that can be improved as well. Best regards, Mechater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mechater (talk • contribs) 20:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mechater: Undeleted. You can now see in the page history who tagged it and why, and perhaps discuss the issues with them. – Athaenara ✉ 00:38, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Articles with web archive as source

I have seen many articles sources as archive's websites, why would you draft article rejected based on that (for draft:DIYCNC)CrestLit (talk) 06:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@CrestLit: I undeleted the page, perhaps you'll be able to resolve the issues with any other editors who questioned whether the topic merits an encyclopedia article. – Athaenara ✉ 09:02, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Draft:Carly Wilford

Hi Athaenara, I wanted to start a draft for a DJ and presenter named Carly Wilford who has a long history as a presenter and has been also making a name for herself as a producer. Her singles have been getting a lot of streams and press. I was surprised that she didn't already have a page as lot of my friends in the dance music world have been talking about her. I was about to draft a page but saw this notice, "A page with this title has previously been moved or deleted. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below"

I'm not sure what was exactly written, but does say 'Unambiguous advertising or promotion.' The info and sources that I have outline her career and success with significant coverage and reliable sources like the BBC, DJ Mag and Mixmag. Would it be alright for me to add compeltely new content to the draft page?

Thank you for your time and attention to this. Tlatzotzontli (talk) 10:37, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Tlatzotzontli: As you can see, someone using that name wrote pages which were tagged and deleted as spam as far back as 2017. If the subject is notable (specifically per WP:MUSICBIO in this case), there is no reason a good encyclopedia article cannot be written about her which adheres to all our standard guidelines for neutral tone and citing independent reliable sources. – Athaenara ✉ 11:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Athaenara: Thank you for your response and guidance. I will take another look at WP:MUSICBIO to make sure those requirements are met. Tlatzotzontli (talk) 18:35, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Tlatzotzontli: You are welcome. – Athaenara ✉ 20:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted my sandbox page

Why did you delete my sandbox page, Athaenara? Maybe deleting pages are that fun but common, my own sandbox page? Please get me up back. Thanks. Pete Is Black (talk) 07:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pete Is Black: I can't see now why I did, it must have been a mistake. – Athaenara ✉ 08:24, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see now the Darmo Art promotional edits in its history. – Athaenara ✉ 09:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hossein Mohammadi Vahidi

Hello. I wanted to know why you deleted this article? New resources and a new award have been added to this article, which proves the reputation. What is the reason for this?--Jackpet11 (talk) 17:50, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackpet11: It was tagged {{db-multiple}} for:

WP:CSD#G4 as previously deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hossein Mohammadi Vahidi
WP:CSD#G5 as created by a user blocked per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hesamlv (yours is one of the accounts being investigated)
WP:CSD#G11 as unambiguous advertising and promotion (WP:SPAM)
WP:CSD#G12 as a copyright violation of www.mohammadivahidi.com/about/

The primary reason from my point of view is that it was spam. – Athaenara ✉ 20:46, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can edit the article. It was not all copying. Please be reasonable. I ask you to retrieve the article and give me another chance because it will disappoint me--Jackpet11 (talk) 04:32, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackpet11: I undeleted the page once, and it was deleted again several hours later by another administrator. I'll have nothing further to do with it. – Athaenara ✉ 05:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me to ask which administrator to restore the page?--Jackpet11 (talk) 08:00, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All the administrative actions are in the page log linked above. – Athaenara ✉ 08:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I reconstructed the article and wrote the unique writing using the resources as well. This is on my sandbox page. Please retrieve the article so that I can edit it. Check out this new type of writing to see if it is good ?--Jackpet11 (talk) 04:51, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for creating Draft:Emiway Bantai

Hey Athaenara, I wanted to crate a draft article of Emiway Bantai i had reliable sources (information). Can you give me permission for it. Rawalrajendranath (talk) 11:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rawalrajendranath: I've become the wrong person to ask about this subject. It's been raised repeatedly, gotten too aggravating, and I'm not the only admin who has changed page permissions: see 2019 and 2020 discussions with logs linked above, including the activities of certain single-purpose accounts. You can work on an article in a user sandbox, it's not necessary to change other page creation permissions for that. – Athaenara ✉ 12:18, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Athaenara for your response. But how i send my sandbox edit for review (article). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rawalrajendranath (talk • contribs) 13:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rawalrajendranath: I took a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk and particularly noticed two pieces of advice: "For questions on how to use or edit Wikipedia, visit the Teahouse" and "You may create an article at the Article wizard or request an article at requested articles."

You may find these and other things there helpful. – Athaenara ✉ 14:07, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recent deletion

→ in re: various autobio pages by User Iamwillow (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

[1] - mind also applying the same treatment to the page under discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Willma Gendb (the content is exactly the same, but the G11 was for some incomprehensible reason previously declined)? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:32, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RandomCanadian:

Done. – Athaenara ✉ 03:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Spam" links on subsections

→ in re: this edit

FYI: including the domain of a spam link on a user talk page spam warning is one way of tracking additions of that link, so that we can easily see via this link if other users have spammed the link before. If I warn a spammer, then check the LinkSearch and see that two other users/IPs have already been warned for adding the link, then it's time to send the link to the blacklist. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 17:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of TheViper

Can you please explain why you deleted the article without responding to the discussion first? This is a project I am working on to include the entire esport. Can you explain why this esport does not meet the notability guidelines while its competitors Starcraft and Warcraft do despite Warcraft having a smaller player base? I will be recreating that article and linking the related tournaments as I create them. Youngdrake (talk) 14:05, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Youngdrake: I deleted it because of the apparent reasoning of those who tagged it. I won't be pursuing further deletions but rather will be an interested observer on the sidelines. – Athaenara ✉ 23:46, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of page ARYS

Hello, Athaenara, you have deleted the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ARYS due to G11, but the page is not ready and also it doesn't consist any promotional language as it's a page about a musician. Please restore the draft in order to continue my work with it.

Best wishes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prohistorian 88 (talk • contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Prohistorian: Those two pages were nearly identical WP:SPAM and as such deleted per {{db-g11}}. – Athaenara ✉ 07:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Athaenara: The first page was created by mistake, because I accidentally created a page under the person's real name, not the stage name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prohistorian 88 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion of Eddie Turner page

Hi there, you recently deleted a page, Eddie Turner, I had submitted. I cited sources from Forbes, who wrote an entire article about him, and The Wall Street Journal, who listed him as an expert in one of their articles. I was wondering if you could un-delete that page so I could continue editing it so it is more up to the standards of Wikipedia. As well, I was also wondering how you believe it could have been more encyclopedic. I will delete anything you'd consider advertising, I just want it to be informative. CameronKozinets (talk) 19:47, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@CameronKozinets:

Done. – Athaenara ✉ 21:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@CameronKozinets: I searched for substantive WP:RS sources (finding mostly subject's website, linkedin, facebook, amazon, speakers bureau, and the like) and again agreed with User:GPL93's {{db-g11}} tag. It had all the earmarks of a public relations publicity piece. – Athaenara ✉ 23:40, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Laplorfill

You deleted the page User:Laplorfill Did you mean this? OrewaTel (talk) 09:43, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@OrewaTel: Yes. Laplorfill has intentionally left that userpage an uncreated redlink since registering back in September 2013. Soniyadonic (talk · contribs) created it with a complaint about Laplorfill having quite rightly tagged Dr. hukamchand Bharill for {{db-g11}} deletion. – Athaenara ✉ 09:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I understand now. OrewaTel (talk) 12:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

socks Ariana Nabaey

Hello dear management If you remember Ariana Draft, which was tagged and deleted yesterday, was re-created by a user's socks. I request that you stop making this user's socks.This user seeks to create his article by making socks. Is there a way to prevent the activities of this user's socks?--Parizad (talk) 19:54, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Khadempour322: Known socks blocked and tagged. You yourself created one of the page versions a few days ago, care to explain that? – Athaenara ✉ 20:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I created the page and after checking the sources I asked to delete it and it was deleted.Did you not know about this and the next issue, I asked for the user's socks to be closed.--Parizad (talk) 20:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I made a mistake in creating an article and boldly requested its removal.Every user can make a mistake and must be brave enough to admit I did the same. You can see it here.--Parizad (talk) 20:25, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK. – Athaenara ✉ 20:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing this issue quickly.--Parizad (talk) 20:29, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, do not be bored, I wanted to inform you that the User:Hkhodadad AND User:Hkhodadad/Sample page user socks are Ariana users.--Parizad (talk) 06:42, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Restore Ramdas Padhye Page

As per your log, you had deleted the page Ramdas Padhye on 22:25, 30 September 2020 the reason was (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: G12 copyvio of https://www.vpuppets.com/aboutme.php which is fair enough. However the artiste in question is Ramdas Padhye who is an internationally renowned person and wiki article about him will be an important source of information for all the people. This article has been deleted multiple times. So I request you to restore it and put in draft section so that experienced wiki users can rewrite the article keeping in mind wikipedia guidelines. I am unable to rewrite the article as I am not aware of wikipedia guidelines in respect of writing the article. Also experienced English writing users can write the article as I am unable to write the article in a neutral way.Ilovemuppets (talk) 05:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy

Hi. You might find this interesting; you had left them a note about suspected socking. I can't parse what is going on there. --- Possibly (talk) 08:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TheAboLaptopAccount's sandbox

I was writing about some events on this sandbox, not in an attempt to publish publicly, but to write about in a Wikipedia style. And I get that people can see it. So I am asking you if I can access )and edit( it privately for myself, because it meant a lot to me. Unknown... (talk) 04:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ザアンノウンエディター: As it fits WP:U5 (misusing Wikipedia as a web host), and Wikipedia is not here to serve your personal needs, I would not restore it. You've been editing for several months and have mastered the syntax, but there's always WP:DRV. – Athaenara ✉ 05:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

i don't care about editing it anymore, i just wanna see it. Unknown... (talk) 04:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ザアンノウンエディター: You can't keep a copy here: we're an encyclopedia, not a web host. Do you want to copy it to store somewhere else? You could ask for advice at WT:DRV (the deletion review talk page), maybe somebody there would help you. – Athaenara ✉ 20:50, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and noi don't wanna save it here Unknown... (talk)

A barnstar for you!

		The Anti-Spam Barnstar
		Thank you for helping clear out the spammy stale userspace drafts. Your help is greatly appreciated! Keep up the good work :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Aycock - Article Deletion

Hi-

Can you offer some more insight on the deletion of this article? This article was removed once before back in the spring, but was un-deleted by the administrator who deleted it after I was able to remove information that was not citied, and added several supporting articles. Can you please offer some correspondence?

Thanks! Zachhedrick (talk) 16:05, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15	conflict of interest, spam
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2	biographies of living persons
1	miscellaneous
0	did you know, signatures, meetups
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000	adminship
0000	moving files to the commons