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Dead Links
I found that there were a few dead links in the references, specifically links 80 and 85. I'm not going to delete them because I am using a computer with quite a few filters that may affect the page showing, but somebody should look into it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.125.38.209 (talk) 03:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
Fixed it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Removed ELs
I removed these ELs because I think they violate WP:EL, but several of them could possibly be used as inline references, so I am pasting them here. It might also be appropriate to submit some ofthem to the Open Directory Project to have a directory for her created, which could then be linked to from the EL section with Template:dmoz to avoid the EL section getting too long or arbitrary again.
- In video, Gloria Steinem invites "Outrageous Acts for Simple Justice"
- Gloria Steinem discusses "After Black Power, Women’s Liberation"
- Jewish Women and the Feminist Revolution from the Jewish Women's Archive
- Gloria Steinem Biography from Thomson Gale
- The Gloria Steinem Papers at Smith College
- 1968 CBC interview with Gloria Steinem (video)
- Gloria Steinem speaks on "Nostalgia" on Bill Maher (video screenshot)
- Jane Fonda and Gloria Steinem on ForaTv (video)
- Interview with Gloria Steinem on human trafficking (audio)
- Interview with Gloria Steinem on Victoria Woodhull in the documentary, America's Victoria, Remembering Victoria Woodhull
- Interview with Gloria Steinem at feminist.com
- Gloria Steinem: "Right Candidates, Wrong Question"
- Gloria Steinem: "Women Are Never Front-Runners"
- Newsbytes (Visalaw)
Novaseminary (talk) 18:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Positions laundry list
It seems that decontextualizing Steinem's stances on various hot-button feminist issues does a disservice to readers. I propose that this section be divided temporally, so that, for example, her early work in the anti-pornography movement comes before her statements on same-sex marriage and that the former be more fleshed out since it is more fundamental to her thought than the marriage issue, which appears to be merely a statement of opinion on current events and not a significant area of her activism and writing. (This is just an illustrative example.) Any thoughts? --Danger (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Kaldari (talk) 07:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I like it the way it is; I think it's easier to follow. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
The way it is now says little about pornography. How are pictures of two people having, say, reciprocal oral sex, common in many porn mags, not an example of reciprocity.24.36.54.238 (talk) 22:57, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Gloria Steinem and gay rights
I know Steinem has been interested in this issue for a long time, so we should probably include more than just the current blurb on gay marriage. I'll see if I can dig up some sources. Here's one to start with: "And on the question of lesbianism: we have to make lesbianism an honorable choice, because until it is, all women who don't conform will be held back by this word. But there's something much deeper—the politicization of sexuality—which says that all sex that doesn't take place inside patriarchal marriage and isn't directed toward having children is wrong. That's what the right wing is saying. They're very clear and we have to get clarity on our side. Our common cause comes from our mutual need to depoliticize sexuality, to free it." —"Let's Get Real about Feminism: The Backlash, the Myths, the Movement", Ms. Magazine, Volume IV, Number 2, 1993. Kaldari (talk) 04:46, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- If you can get some sources it would be great to include it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Transexualism
After reading through the original source cited for the Transexualism section, I have to say that our description of her views is a bit skewed. The quotes we use seem to be cherry picked to make it sound like she hates transexuals. Her actual views seem to be far more nuanced, and more a criticism of gender roles than transexuals. Two of the quotes weren't even accurate and one of them was completely misleading (as it was Steinem characterizing the views of others). I've corrected the most glaring problems, but the section still needs work to present a balanced picture of her views. Does anyone have any opinions about any of the existing wording? Would anyone object if I rewrite some of it? Also, does anyone know of more recent sources to use for this topic? The current material is mostly from 1977, which is pretty old. Considering how prolific a writer Steinem is, I'm sure she must have written something else on the topic more recently. Kaldari (talk) 05:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
The use of the potentially offensive term "transexuals" as if it is the default in this section is a problem. Steinem's terminology bleeds into the article's voice. Not sure how exactly to fix.
Mothers Mental Illness and Patriarchy.
In a recent CBC radio interview, 2012, Gloria was asked about her relationship with her mother, to which she responded she had a close one.
The radio announcer, (Maria Tremonti) then presented her with the fact that her mother suffered from mental illness, and that she had, as a young girl been forced to look after her, she responded, "my mother's mental illness was patriarchy".
Perhaps the significance of Gloria's difficult early life in having to nurse a sick mother, and a father who left the family had a significant effect on Gloria's perspective of family. --174.5.39.86 (talk) 09:53, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but you'll have to get some sources before you include it. Maranjosie (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
How's that North Korean peace march going and why not the typical WQ link?
A quick search gave me this Gloria Steinem’s North Korea Peace Walk Draws Ire Despite Lack of Any Better Ideas.24.36.54.238 (talk) 20:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
GA reassessment
The lede is way too short for an article of this stature—it should be doing a whole lot more summary (especially for "good article" status) czar 05:22, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Weird writing
The last paragraph at Early Life loos weird (I have since changed the first part).
- "Steinem attended Waite High School in Toledo and Western High School in Washington, D.C." the latter of which she graduated from. I have changed this already.
- "She then attended Smith College, an institution with which she continues to remain engaged, and from which she graduated Phi Beta Kappa." It is one thing to become a member of Phi Beta Kappa, but to say that she "graduated Phi Beta Kappa" sounds as if this how well she did, on par with "cum laude", "summa cum laude" etc.
Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 16:25, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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C.B.C Interview
In an interview on the C.B.C. a few years ago, with Anna Marie Tremonti, and Gloria Steinam, Ms. Steinam did not mention anything about her mental illness and how it may have affected her early life.
Imagine a child of 8 years old, having to look after her sick mother, while her father had left, obviously the stress had some impacts.
Anna Marie Tremonti, asked one last question, 'what about your mothers mental illness'. Gloria Steinam's response ? "My mother's mental illness was Patriarchy".
Not a very logical answer to the real problem, and it seems Gloria blamed it all on Patriarchy. Not fair at all.
Criticism missing
I am missing aid to the false satanic abuse persecutions etc. see here https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/12/01/gloria_steinem_represents_the_worst_of_modern_feminism_120818.html Zezen (talk) 08:42, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
See also this RS: https://in-sightjournal.com/2018/06/01/gloria-steinem-bennett-braun-feminism-new-age-satanism/ Zezen (talk) 11:42, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Women Only Seder Hard to Understand
It's written, "In 1976, the first women-only Passover seder was held in Esther M. Broner's New York City apartment and led by Broner, with 13 women attending, including Steinem." That may be a reliable source, but the sentence is unclear. Judaism is thousands of years old. I find it hard to believe that in all that time there weren't seders attended by only women. Think about the women confined to a camp in the holocaust or women in prison, wouldn't they have held women-only seders? Or a widow with her daughters? Perhaps somebody who has access to the original source can clarify what was special about the 1976 seder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.210.115.100 (talk) 20:47, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
"While her parents divorced under the stress of her mother's illness, Steinem did not attribute it at all to chauvinism on the father's part — she claims to have "understood and never blamed him for the breakup."
On a C.B.C. radio interview, in the 2010's, Gloria was asked about her mothers mental illness, something she had totally ignored in the interview. Gloria's response, "my mothers mental illness was patriarchy".
Tragic that Gloria, a small girl, would be so traumatized by her mothers mental illness, and may have blamed 'patriarchy' for it.
--C Squitti (talk) 02:04, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
CIA
I have just read "My life on the road", and could not find anything on the CIA. The reference cited for claiming that Steinem speaks in her book about her work for the CIA leads to an article that mentions both the book and her work for the CIA, but does not link both. --178.142.129.83 (talk) 15:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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A biography claiming Steinem cofounded a nonprofit been nominated for deletion
Layla Love biography had no less than 14 claims that fell apart under scrutiny. The user that made the page ignored or declined to correct them after being contacted recently. Celebrity names were inserted such as Pink and Bjork and no proof they posed for her exists. A snapshot of Pink in profile talking to someone was found so the claim was deceptive. Gloria Steinem was put in the biography as a co-founder of a non-profit. A blog and gossip column were the sources. Sennagod (talk) 04:50, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
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