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February 6

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People who have or had an infectious disease that didn't kill them, at least not yet

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The result of the discussion was: delete, except no consensus to delete Category:Ebola survivors. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NOT and WP:NONDEFINING (WP:TRIVIALCAT and maybe WP:PERFCAT)
We have a categories for people who died from all of these diseases so these are the equivalent categories for people that did not die. One problem here is that many of these diseases are chronic or have significant long-term health implications. The bigger problem is that Wikipedia is not a medical history of every diseases or ailment (even serious ones) notable people contract in their lives. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:54, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The early death rates were 88-90% while, during the subsequent Western African Ebola virus epidemic, the death rate was lowered to 40%, and the recent ebola vaccine reduces that much further. A decade ago I would have agreed survival was rare enough to be defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Metropolitan Special Constabulary

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The result of the discussion was: delete; users can work out the proper parentage of the subcategory Category:Metropolitan Special Constabulary officers in the normal ways. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:SMALLCAT)
The Metropolitan Special Constabulary is a voluntary auxilary to London's Metropolitan Police and I have no conceptual objection to the category. But the only things in this category are the main article, a well populated subcategory for volunteers, and a 2nd article about a national law that authorized special constables nationwide including in London with no potential for growth that I can anticipate. (If I'm mistaken and we ever get up to 5+ direct articles, no objection to recreating.) All the contents are already well catgorized under the Metro or Special Constabulary cats so no upmerge is needed. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:54, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Films made before the MPAA Production Code

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:20, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This seems like an unnecessary and redundant category. We already have categories like Category:American films and Category:Films by year. It makes no sense to have this category when every American film made before 1934 is always going to contain the other two categories I mentioned. For those of you who don't know, the MPAA Production Code was implemented in 1934. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. The topic itself. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 16:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Burials at Saint Andrew's Cemetery, Bratislava

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:18, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, and non-defining as there is no article on Saint Andrew's Cemetery, Bratislava, nor on a church by that name. The one member article Július Satinský does not otherwise mention the place of burial. – Fayenatic London 14:57, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Subdivisions of the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: rename five from "subdivisions" to "administrative divisions"; no consensus on Category:United Kingdom by country. – Fayenatic London 22:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: C2C. Nearly duplicate parentage. The usual expectation of "by country" is there aren't countries inside of them ("by country by country"). This complicates the naming of all country categories. Meanwhile, Countries of the United Kingdom calls them "nations", also country, province, or region.
WP:NPOV: Per Countries of the United Kingdom, the descriptive name used "can be controversial, with the choice often revealing one's political preferences". Therefore, I'm proposing we distinguish each by the anodyne formal political geography terms.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:34, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The UK doesn't have administrative divisions, it has political divisions. England, Scotland, and Wales have administrative divisions. The Brits came up with this hierarchical nomenclature, now used throughout the English-speaking world.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think that a level called by country or by nation is useful for UK categories, and it would also open a can of worms. British categories have been organized for years with head subcategories for the 4 home nations and BOTCD placed at the top of each topic category with a or * or + sortkey. This works fine, there is no reason to change it. Otherwise we see absurdities like the duplicate Category:British people by country (4 C) next to Category:People by nationality within the United Kingdom (7 C). Place Clichy (talk) 18:47, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Abbasid governors of the Jazira

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The result of the discussion was: do not merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge (or reverse merge), it concerns the same region since Mosul is the capital city of the Jazira. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Mosul was often governed separately from the rest of the Jazira, especially during the later Abbasid period when the Jazira itself was fragmented, and the sources are not always clear when a 'governor of Mosul' was also 'governor of the Jazira'. Constantine 08:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Constantine. Same for the preceding Umayyad period—sometimes Mosul was included but often it was a separate province. —Al Ameer (talk) 15:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Constantine. --Just N. (talk) 22:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Circus strongmen

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Circus strongmen and strongwomen. As noted, Category:Strongwomen exists; I have added the circus strongwomen in that category to Category:Circus strongmen and strongwomen but also kept them in Category:Strongwomen. Further tweaks may be appropriate. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are several women in the category. Not sure what to rename it though: "Circus strongmen and women"? "Circus strongmen and strongwomen"? "Circus strongpeople"? Clarityfiend (talk) 08:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Spanish municipal councillors

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only 1-3 articles in each category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Schools in Sri Lanka by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:08, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only 1-3 articles per category. In the first five cases the schools are the only content of the buildings and structures parent category, in those cases a further upmerge to the town "grandparent category" is proposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Song recordings produced by The KLF

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The result of the discussion was: rename'. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We use lower case 'the' in running prose for nicknames, stage names and group names, per MOS:THEMUSIC and MOS:NICKNAMETHE.

Binksternet (talk) 03:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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IHG Hotels & Resorts

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The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac15 07:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Branded as IHG Hotels & Resorts since 4 February 2021. Ridwan97 (talk) 02:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These subcategory must be integrated under the company's main category page. Ridwan97 (talk) 02:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To reflect with the usage of the current corporate branding. Ridwan97 (talk) 02:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lists of astronomical locations in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: do not rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: None of the articles in this should be lists, due to Wikipedia policies about fictional listcruft. This should be a subcategory of Category:Space in fiction. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:57, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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