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Request to update HubSpot

Hello! On behalf of HubSpot, I've submitted a request to update the Software and services section. I've proposed specific text additions based on Wikipedia-appropriate sources about some the company's major products, similar to what's already said about HubSpot CRM Free. I've disclosed my conflict of interest and included Template:Request edit, but so far the request has gone unanswered. Might a member of WikiProject Computing be willing to take a look and update the article appropriately? Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 14:01, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Compaq IA-1 - as a stand-alone article or section in iPAQ (desktop computer)?

After browsing computing related drafts, I dicovered Draft:Compaq IA-1 ("internet appliance" of the early 2000s). After brief research, I think I have enough sources to create a short article. However, this machine is also mentioned in the - mostly unsourced - article about IPAQ (desktop computer) (IA-1/IA-2 are based on this hardware). I wonder, is it better to create a new article for "internet appliance" version of IPAQ, or rewrite existing section in the IPAQ (desktop computer) article? Pavlor (talk) 05:38, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is obscure stuff on top of obscure stuff. Best to keep it all in one article for now. You can always WP:SPLIT if that doesn't work out. ~Kvng (talk) 14:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I really like writing about obscure computer related subjects... One article for both versions/form factors is a logical choice. Pavlor (talk) 08:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Catalyst 6500#Requested move 18 August 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 10:42, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ada and Agda

I'd like to invite input on a discussion currently taking place on the talk page for the Ada programming languages. I had added disambiguation hatnotes to the pages for Ada and the programming language Agda. My logic is that the two have similar names and can get confused; this happened to me in a discussion with a friend. Another user disagrees that such hatnotes are unnecessary; "WP can't include every possible error". I feel like we've both made reasonable points but there's no common ground, so I'm curious what the computing community thinks. You can weigh in here. Tisnec (talk) 04:11, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zero-day (computing)#Requested move 26 August 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – robertsky (talk) 16:24, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

K1520 computer bus

used the majority of computers produced in east germany between 1980 and 1990.

many of which have wikipedia pages. (see draft)

how would one establish notability for it? naturally all the technical documentation mentions it. but it is not like the average Hans had any clue that it existed.

Draft: K1520 bus

looking for guidance on the matter Nowakki (talk) 21:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think Johannes explains it best at the draft page. You need coverage of the article subject in reliable sources to establish notability. I will look in my library (I have at least few computer-related books and magazines from the former DDR), if there is something useful. Feel free to remind me later. Pavlor (talk) 05:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
but if there is a computer bus (and also an expansion bus) that was featured in all notable microcomputers of one decade in a country that only had one unified semiconductor sector, then that bus must appear in all reliable sources that dealt with these computers and their extension.
tell me, why is the GSC bus notable? Or the VAXBI bus? Nowakki (talk) 10:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That there are badly sourced articles (relict of an age, when gatekeeping was not that strong as today) is not a good argument for another badly sourced article (see WP:OTHERSTUFF). As of your draft, in worst case (if we don't find enough sources) that bus could be mentioned in the article about the manufacturer (VEB Robotron) with a redirect as a search term. Pavlor (talk) 11:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
if you would be so kind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VEB_Robotron#K1520_bus_standard
it seems wikipedia does not want me to create a redirect without supervision. Nowakki (talk) 12:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
should i make a draft for the redirect? Nowakki (talk) 04:07, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your account is not autoconfirmed yet (will be in few hours), then you will be able to make a redirect (or any other new page in the main namespace) yourself, just try it again. Do not turn a draft into a redirect. If you are not sure, how to proceed, I can create that redirect for you (see WP:R for help). Pavlor (talk) 05:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

image licensing based on expected consequences

if i was to include an Figure from an old service manual from the 1980s of a piece of technology that hasn't been sold for decades, would present that piece of technology in a favorable light (like a museum would) and reasonably can count on the author and designer of that piece of technology to be proud that their creation would be used in this fashion.

in that case can i go ahead with this? Use the Figure and rely on the abuse process to cover the 0.1% chance that there will be a problem? Slippery slope?

in particular it is a timing diagram of the signals and events that happen when a floppy disk controller reads a sector. Not a piece of art or anything. Nowakki (talk) 12:49, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what sort of question you're asking here. The service manual and its contents would presumably be covered under copyright unless you could prove otherwise. Is that why you're referring to "rely[ing] on the abuse process"? Elizium23 (talk) 12:55, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
nobody would complain Nowakki (talk) 15:22, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's not really the standard we set for ourselves here, nor is it the legal standard, and I think you know that. Elizium23 (talk) 21:53, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
i know that commons gives the option to upload something when the license status is unknown. and it does not take much to play dumb. so i don't know. Nowakki (talk) 22:13, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would say, assuming the figure is not something you can easily recreate, use the figure and provide meaningful commentary regarding it in the article. See WP:FAIRUSE for further details on how to do this. DocFreeman24 (talk) 04:56, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thanks Nowakki (talk) 11:44, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:General Transit Feed Specification#Requested move 21 September 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 19:53, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hitachi Data Systems COI edit requests

Hi! I've posted some COI edit requests at Talk:Hitachi Data Systems. Sharing in case anyone here is interested in taking a look. Thank you for any help or feedback! Mary Gaulke (talk) 19:17, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taskforce WikiProject Unicode – proposal

Hi. I propose to start a WP:Taskforce WikiProject Unicode, as a subproject of both Wikiproject Writing Systems (WSYS) and WikiProject Computing (COMP). The Taskforce be housed here, as a subpage of WP:COMP.

Scope would the topic of Unicode and its related pages & topics; also the points of interface with, for example, scripts, ISO 15924, symbols, computing, fonts; the Wikidata connection; possibly the more hardcore Wiki Interface (Java, CSS) and WP:TemplateStyle.
To do: time to build a Unicode article for TFA :-). Personally as an editor, in templates mostly, I could use a systematic overview of Unicode pages. Also, often I meet questions e.g. re template improvement or articles quality, I want to discuss more widely & thoroughly with engaged editors. I think the Standard could be described better in the articles (tbh, I only understand the workings of the Standard not from articles only, but by doing extra research). It would raise the quality standard. Anyway, we can aim to have more Unicode FA's.
Activity: I don't expect an overly active WProject (few are these days), but any Unicode discussion with involved editors is welcome. Currently, they appear in scattered places—while they relate to a wider Unicode issue. Central talk can improve the Unicode article standard.
Resources: A central repository would be welcome. Need a {{WikiProject Unicode}} project banner, quality assessment, Article Alerts.
Members and support: Please indicate below if you are potentially interested as a project member.
First job: The WProject needs a logo! Design can start, see & join the future [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Unicode]] for the selection.

-DePiep (talk) 09:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal administration

@Spitzak: -DePiep (talk) 08:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support & membership

Discussion

Thoughts? DePiep (talk) 09:29, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe outside the scope of your proposal, but our lists of code points and associated images are duplicated in multiple other wikipedias and 30 wiktionaries. They're mostly all identical to one other, except for the names of the blocks sometimes being translated. Someone objected that rather than spending the time updating them all whenever unicode updates or someone adds images, they should be centralized at wikidata and transcluded, but I haven't seen any movement since. — kwami (talk) 10:28, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Worth pursuing. A central wikipoint of contact at enwiki would surely help then. Some work on Wikidata is in progress. DePiep (talk) 05:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a good idea but I don't have any desire to administer or lead the project. I'm sure I'll participate at some level. My sarcastic logo for the project would, of course, be U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER. I like the idea of using the same data across multiple Wikipedias. I've tried to do that with the multilingual roadmap image. DRMcCreedy (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Most lax way would be to have the WProject talkpage on your watchlist, then cpoints of interest will roll by. We should make i18n & iw part of scope then; another wiki-interface interface. Request granted, you won't be appointed Chancellor of the Task. (As for the logo: we can make the U+userbox accept ones favourite character. Mine could be an animated diacritic? The Non-breaking spiritual space?) DePiep (talk) 06:23, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, my familiarity with the topic is very limited. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:40, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed point requested move

Hi all, I requested a move from Fixed point (mathematics) to Fixed point which is currently a disambiguation page for Fixed point (mathematics), Fixed-point arithmetic, and a few other topics. This move is somewhat controversial as several people have objected that Fixed-point arithmetic precludes Fixed point (mathematics) from being a primary topic. A few months ago a similar move request was closed as "no consensus", so please join in at Talk:Fixed point (mathematics)#Requested move 4 October 2022 so that this discussion can reach a definitive conclusion. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 20:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

improve our Random-access memory article

This article, Random-access memory, was (rightly) marked High Importance by the defunct Computer hardware task force.

It is sadly in a bit of a mess, with no clear division between the various technologies that carry the RAM moniker as the most pressing issue.

It is currently C-class only, a quality rating I agree with. It just isn't very good - more of a hodge podge of facts than a clearly thought out and structured encyclopedic article. A poor state for an article on such a central concept to be in, if you ask me.

If there are any experts in the audience, please consider spending some quality time on this article.

CapnZapp (talk) 13:35, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've added it to my review project but it will probably be more than a year before I would start working on it. ~Kvng (talk) 16:01, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Human-in-the-loop § Merger proposal. XtraJovial (talkcontribs) 22:05, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:S.M.A.R.T.#Requested move 28 October 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ) 15:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request: Suggestions on how to improve draft of Eclipse Trace Compass

I wrote the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eclipse_Trace_Compass. The reasoning: The project LTTng referred to it, and Trace Compass has a certain level of notability: it is used in university labs both for research and teaching purposes, it has papers in IEEE and ACM published discussing its uses and is discussed in 4 (known) books, with a fifth one coming soon. I am a developer/product owner of this product and have MAJOR conflicts of interest. I am striving to make sure the article is not an ad. I appreciate the reviews, and realize I may have been wrong by basing this page on the lttng one. Would there be any resources available to help write the article in a more "conformal way" to the wikipedia standard? would it be better to be a paragraph in the eclipse software page? Advice is appreciated.

Thanks! (and sorry for using reviewer's time inefficiently. Mattatericsson (talk) 02:44, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]