User talk:Waggers/Archive 7

Comments made on GoldHearts talkpage

I accept your criticism of my comments on GoldHearts page and replied to them there. --sony-youth^pléigh 09:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Point taken

It was really meant to be offensive, more a bit of banter betweem two Irish. I will be more careful in the future.--Play Brian Moore 12:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

"It was really meant to be offensive" - Freudian slip? :) Waggers 12:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Wait thats meant to say "not meant to be offensive". Sorry about that!--Play Brian Moore 13:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

British Isles template

Waggers, could you please explain the purpose of this template? Can you give me an example of some articles where it might be used? In your discussion with a certain editor, you said: Sony, it's not "them and us" - we all have the same aim - improving Wikipedia and ensuring that articles are written from a neutral point of view. Your comments above indicate that you are assuming that other editors are acting in bad faith or have some hidden agenda or prejudice. Unfortunately, that is simply not true! It is blindingly obvious that the majority of British editors have a completely different take on this issue than the majority of Irish editors, that is an easily observable fact; you even caught a certain editor who you'd assumed supported your view confessing that he didn't really! So this article CANNOT be written without a POV. All we have now is the imposition of dictat by the majority, NOT npov. And the very fact that you can't even see that is part of the problem. And now I read you in the template page saying (paraphrase) "the Islands are called the British Isles on Wiki and we have a strict policy which says we push that into every article regardless of who we offend." That attitude is what is causing the endless cycle of rows about this issue. (Sarah777 16:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC))

NPA=

Excuse me Waggers, your views would have more credibility and carry more weight if I had evidence of any attempt by you to chastise those making personal attacks on me. The Administrator in question made a very unprofessional response to my "unblock" request and retorted with a personal attack. Are you going to take his behaviour to task? (A specific reply to this would be appreciated). As you obviously read the details of his behavior at the same time as you read my remarks about him, I am rather surprised to see no record of you placing a NPA button on his talkpage. (I realise of course that you have NPOV and are utterly neutral in all matters). That's why I'm surprised by this lapse. (Sarah777 09:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC))

OK Waggers, didn't realise you were another Admin - all the more reason you should try and recognise your own prejudices and POV. OK. Firstly, calling someone brain-dead when they're clearly not is a personal attack. - I aqgree. Asking someone to stop trolling when they have indeed been trolling may not be pleasant but I don't think it really falls into WP:ATTACK - Agree. it's a description of your edits, not yourself personally. If you read the Edit Warring section of WP:TROLL, I hope you'll agree that your recent behaviour fits the bill. - Totally disagree. Expressing ones opinion forcefully in the face of poor Administration and personal attacks is not "trolling". Secondly, the admin himself responded to you here this morning and quite rightly pointed you to WP:AN/I. OK, but the 'brain-dead' comment happened much earlier; and I was not in the least convinced by his defence of his performance. I don't make formal complaints and have never sought to get anyone debarred/blocked; preferring to deal with them myself. I may well go to WP:WQA (when I find out what it is) as there is a clear "failure to communicate" between certain Irish and British editors. Your own references to "failure to understand" the issues around the objections to 'British' and your excessively 'legalistic' approach are manifestations of that (possibly cultural) gap. You won't have to bother with the threats of bans and blocks if we don't sort this out - I'll retire from Wiki rather than be trampled into submission. (Sarah777 09:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC))

Smilies

Good idea Waggers, it can be done! Gold♥ 19:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Nanking

Hi. I'm trying to update information on the NANKING film page, in the film credits section. I have added some names, but all of the information isn't showing up when I save it. Any new lines that I have created do not show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.184.42 (talk • contribs) 22:42 BST, 5 June 2007

Yes, those are the changes I'm trying to fix on the Nanking page.

I added individual names to the writer, producer and starring lines and then created new co-producer, line producer and associate producer lines. The names I added to previously exisiting lines are showing up, but the new lines I created are not.

I'm assuming it's because I didn't add the new lines in the correct format. But I don't know what the correct format should be.

Thanks!

Datestamp for archiving; Waggers 14:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Niggle

Just a tiny comment, Pedro - the word is "grammar" not "grammer". It just looks odd when you're making grammatical corrections and putting a spelling mistake in the edit summary! Cheers, Waggers 09:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Tahts wyh I fcous on gramer nad ont spleing I geuss! Cheers :)Pedro |  Chat  09:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Vandals must have a final warning before being blocked on 130.156.48.2

I don't understand. On the talk page, there is a final warning, dated May 18, 2007. There was more vandalism from this IP this morning on the Lacrosse page, which I reverted. Since I saw that the final warning had already been given and further vandalism had occurred, I reported it so that an admin could block it. What am I missing? --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 14:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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His AIV report was a bad-faith one - he's in a content dispute. --Dweller 15:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

South East England Portal

Hi Waggers, amazingly I have only just discovered about Portals and how cool they are! Anyways I am very interested in helping out with the South East England portal, leave me message if you would like the extra help or if you're managing just fine. Regards, The Menace 20:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Waggers, thanks for your message, i will defienetly sometime in the near future create portals for those counties that don't have one, but firstly i'm working on the East Sussex portal, hopefully create an East Sussex wikiproject and of course help out with South England portal :) The Menace 12:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Template Update

Hi Waggers, just to let you know I created an article on the Itchen Navigation today. It seems notable and there were a couple of red links out of other articles. Accordingly, I've updated your Eastleigh Borough template. Cheers. Pedro |  Chat  11:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Plus - thanks for the refs tag - I can't believe I missed it!!! Will try to sort a photo for this weekend as I live very close to one section. Pedro |  Chat  11:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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"666old man's child 666"

Waggers, your indefinite block of this UID was entirely proper, but I'm not sure about even raising the possibility of an appeal against it. After all, the UID is pretty obviously just a sock of Tuskjet. -- Hoary 12:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Please be careful on AIV

I have responded on my talk page. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{C} 14:34, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

My report on user:Find rawat

Hi Waggers. I see you removing User:Find rawat from WP:AIV and you said that he only has 1 edit, not enough for only-vandalism account. But the fact that his edit is exactly the same as the IP 212.72.22.140's edit. That's why I report both the IP and the user. Hope this clarify. Thanks. AW 10:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk page protection

Can you protect User talk:Bapboo? He is abusing the unblock template after being blocked by you. Momusufan 15:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Black Mesa

At first glance, I believe I agree with your assessment that the account was probably comrpomised; did you have an opinion on the current unblock request? – Luna Santin (talk) 03:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Bookajet Reversion

I recieved the following message:

"Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Bookajet. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Waggers 08:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)"

I was actually trying to update the information on Bookajet, as an authorised person within the company. Unfortunately, the reversion has taken the page back to Aug 2006... any chance I can update our company information without the risk of appearing as a vandal?

Paul Mansfield Marketing Manager Bookajet

paul_dot_mansfield_at_bookajet_dot_com

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.163.165.249 (talk • contribs) 16:03 BST, 4 July 2007 Datestamp: Waggers 21:16, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Review of User:Rahulkhare/BatchMaster Software

Waggers: At the outset, please accept my heartfelt appreciation for being so lucid in your reponse.

I have tried to make changes to my proposed article as suggested by you. I will greatly appreciate if you could visit the page again and let me know if I am headed in the right direction.

As far as notability is concerned, BatchMaster is the first name that comes to the mind of process manufacturers when they are looking for an ERP solution. Please feel free to visit our sebsite http://www.batchmaster.com for details.

I eagerly await your comments on my proposed article on BatchMaster Software, Inc. at User:Rahulkhare/BatchMaster Software.

Rahulkhare 08:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Waggers: Made the changes you suggested. I have learnt a lot about writing articles in Wikipedia from my interactions with you.

The article space for BatchMaster Software is still protected by Mike Rosoft. Do I need to request him to unprotect it or any administrator can do it? How can we ensure that other administrators who have not followed this discussion do not remove it from Wikipedia?

My heartfelt thanks once again.... Rahulkhare 04:38, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Why does Wikipedia Appear to Hate Me?

Why does Wikipedia Appear to Hate Me? For the record, I am writing about the British version of MAD Magazine, as < MAD UK > / < British MAD >, but this seems to be an uphill trawl:

1) I have a message saying that 'There are very few or no other articles that link to this one'.

The main entry for the US MAD Magazine lists the British version but, when I tried thrice to edit this to refer to mine, someone/something appeared to take exception and change it back, excluding my x-ref.

2) My article is flagged as < Information in this article or section has not been verified against sources and may not be reliable. Please check for inaccuracies and modify as needed, citing the sources against which it was checked. >

However, I am one of two living authorities on the subject, recognised as such by the last (deceased) publisher, who also published my work, < 25 Years of MAD Magazine >, and have now included references to that effect.

3) I am now told I have copy/pasted data from somewhere else; yet the material is all mine, original, and any copy/pasting has been done for my own convenience.

Please help!

David —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melvin m melvin (talk • contribs) 16:35 BST, 5 July 2007

Waggers 20:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks alot :)

Thanks for un-banning me. I told my friends that I got because of them today and they looked a bit shocked. They promised not to do it again (if that's true I'm not sure though =p) although now I've learnt my lesson and I'm logging out as soon as I leave the computer even for a few minutes =p

Thanks again for un-blocking me quickly,

-David

Datestamp for archiving: Waggers 14:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Blocked 71.224.13.137?

Why'd you block me? I thought us British stick together in times of despair? Nevertheless, while my methods were rather unorthodox, I needed to find a way to get to exception that proves the rule's talk-page, which I have found now. Your blockage prohibited me from adding a valuable topic of discussion to said article's talk-page, so you forced me to sign in. Shame on you.

Oh the user-vandalism was just a little fun. Funny guy had a TW script that reverts changes automatically, anyway. -Yosht

Datestamp for archiving: Waggers 14:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your helpful reply, waggers

Thanks for your helpful reply, waggers Dave —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melvin m melvin (talk • contribs) 13:06 BST, 6 July 2007

Datestamp for archiving: Waggers 14:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Tōru Sakai protection request

Hi Waggers, thanks for blocking this IP. However, I'm pretty sure the IP will be right back in here and won't stop vandalising this article. Could you please consider protecting this article in the future if the vandalism continues? And please, keep an eye on it. Thanks, Andrij Kursetsky ⊗ 10:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

They're back. I think it's a very good time for protection. Andrij Kursetsky ⊗ 08:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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I just saw you reverted some vandalism on my userpage, thanks for looking out. Take care. --Bongwarrior 09:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Tesoro007

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Hamble-le-Rice

Hi,

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User:172.190.142.52

You blocked this user recently, and he's now making personal attacks against you and me on his talk page... could you semi-protect it? I put a request out already, but I figure it'd be faster that way. Thanks! Gscshoyru 12:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: nevermind... taken care of already :D Gscshoyru 12:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

New rule

Given the discussion about a new rule on naming conventions that rules out the correct name superior to the colloquial name, how may we nominate a rule for such enforcment? Reginmund 02:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Second city of the United Kingdom - Request for Rational Debate

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Flickr

Hi Waggers.

Sorry to trouble you. Do you know what the new tag is for flickr images, ie to make sure they've been checked and are the right size. I've uploaded a couple and placed them on the southampton page but noticed that I forgot to upload them in the maximum resolution and ensure that they are checked by someone. The image of the Docks and the one of weston and also a couple of some of the suburb articles I think Supposed 03:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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Atlantic Isles

IONA also has its own page just because the subject matter is mostly the same is not alone grounds for deletion . The name is valid and is in use, as shown in the references please do not delete my work people other than yourself may look under the heading of atlantic isles or IONA and not wish to be redirected to a term that is controversial Caomhan27 15:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Due to the fact that the BI article is in a constant state of flux due to its controversial name plus the fact that i have shown new verifiable author references showing usage of the term atlantic isles, I believe this page can co-exist along side BI without harming wikipedia integrity.

I will attempt in due course to alter the AI page information to give it a unique feel distinct from the BI page (i have already started with a new map), however i require the template to guide me so if you could desist from deleting it i will attempt to make progress thanksCaomhan27 16:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Waggers editors called mucky duck and bastun (who cant be reasoned with who wont discuss before altering, keep Vandalising my article on the atlantic isles term could you enable me to protect my article with the additions you made or could you politely warn them?Caomhan27 11:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Arbcom

Waggers, rather than (almost) endorsing the latest installment of Sony's vindictive campaign (which a neutral editor dismissed out of hand) could you PLEASE explain exactly where the anti-British remark on the BI talk-page is? I can't find it; unless you are supporting the Sony/Mark Thomas view that almost anything can be claimed to be "anti-British"; even the dislike of the term "British Isles". Is that now a hanging offence? For an Irish editor to even say that they dislike the term "British Isles"?

This is an extremely important point. Are you saying that an Irish (or any) editor cannot express any reservations about the term on Wiki, despite the evidence that even the Irish and British Governments go to some length not to use it because they, at least, realise that most Irish people do not like it. You need to be extremely clear and precise in this matter otherwise it will be impossible to know where "the line" is. In my view I came nowhere the line, far from 'stopping just short'(Sarah777) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah777 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC) See - even the bots are out to get me....it WAS signed. (Sarah777) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah777 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

shazbot!

"friendly caution" - ? You know what? You're a bloody blooming blighter, Waggers :) ! In total shock over G. Looked though his socks contribs. Looks like he tipped over the edge with A. I don't know what to make of it. ... When I saw what was said to A, I couldn't believe any asshole would write that ... - when I saw who it was - unreal, then the sock comment, I'm don't know what to think! I hope he's okay. --sony-youth^pléigh 15:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Indigo

Waggers, I think Indigo is a notable firm in that, unline the slew of Western companies that are creating jobs through outsourcing in India/Russia/China/Brazil/Poland, Indigo is creating white collar high level jobs in the US/UK/Germany etc. This is possibly an indication of things to come and it would be short sighted to ignore the notability of this company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sn2152 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Lough Neagh in the British Isles or not.

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Semi-protection

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I've noticed you've gone ahead and changed Wherever, Southampton to Wherever, Hampshire. I'm going to change them back, as you have not achieved a consensus on the Southampton page. Conventions are not set in stone, they are simply guidelines and do not have to be followed. When there is a consensus with regards this case, then I'm sure it will not be a problem. Dan K (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The change to Wherever, Southamptom, was decided by consensus on the talk page a few months ago. At the moment you moved the pages, you were the only person advocating changing it back. Myself and one other were against you. Two v one sounds like a consensus to me, no matter if it is only small. I see now that other people have joined in the debate, and are against the Southampton suffix, so I have to abide by it. But I stil fail to see how a wiki convention can overrule real world use. It just doesn't make sense, and to be honest seems very, very petty in my mind. Dan K (talk) 16:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Hi I noticed you make a lot of great contributions to Southampton related articles, are you from there? You can reply on my talk page JTBX (talk) 23:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Hi I noticed you make a lot of great contributions to Southampton related articles, are you from there? You can reply on my talk page JTBX (talk) 23:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

deletion of angantyr

You do this everytime I try to add an article about a band that isn't commercially succesfull! Damn you're stupid... Instead of saying "Hey, we're deleting you're article, cause you only like shitty bands." say "Hey Esb, you're article on Angantyr is a stub, here is what you need to add if your article should meet wikipedia standards..."

Tell me what the article needs, dammit!!!

TheEsb (talk) 14:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Now you deleted it... The next time someone wonders who angantyr is he'll have to browse Google for an eternity.. What did the article need? You never answered my question you ignorant hipocrat... The article needed to have notability? HOW!!?!?!? It's about an existing musical group and there is lots of information about it... Tell me WHAT i need to ADD to the ARTICLE... Deleting it is just a fascist thing to do.. pardon my french... Put the article back on, and I'll try to see if can add what you want. Now when I can't even see the deleted version there is now hope that anyone will ever start the article again.. What is the purpose of Wikipedia? To judge how important information is, or to ensure that all informations are verifiable? The last one! I have never wrote anything on wikipedia that isn't true... I have only written things that aren't interesten for petty minds like yours... This is not an attack. TheEsb (talk) 15:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm a new user who started the page for BC/EFA. I would like to know why you would like to delete it.

I was working on the 2007 Broadway stagehand strike page, and I wanted to explain the financial impact on BC/EFA, but there was no page for it. I found that the page was deleted before because it was self-serving/written like an advertisement. I assure you I have no connection to the organization, and I merely created the page to help people understand what I'm talking about.

Theater is severely under-represented on Wikipedia, but that does not mean the information isn't important. I believe this is valid page, and I implore you to do more research on it before you consider deleting it.

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-scobiedont —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scobiedont (talk • contribs) 14:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)