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Hi
Just want to say, while you and I do not always agree, I really appreciate the effort you put forth on the project. Rarely do I think that you are arguing for the sake of argument. Anyway, just wanted to let you know that while we can disagree, I appreciate your contributions. Onel5969 TT me 03:24, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for this note in the context of us disagreeing. I do appreciate that. I'm now trying to guess when the rare times are that I argue for the sake of it, lol. Peace. CT55555(talk) 03:27, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi User:Onel5969, I think it was our disagreement at the AFD for the Romina Ashrafi article that prompted your kind note. I wanted to update you that since it was kept, I've improved it and I hope the improvements will help you see why I was so passionately disagreeing with you. CT55555(talk) 15:54, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- It could have been, but I think it was more a body of the entirety of our interactions. Other than the times when an AfD is closed solely on a !vote count, rather than policy, (which happens way too often), I rarely mind when an article is kept. I've said often, I know that some folks fervently believe that AfD is not for cleanup, but coming from the perspective of someone who takes patrolling new articles seriously, I much prefer the philosophy of the essay, Wikipedia:Using deletion as cleanup, as sometimes the only way to bring an article up to snuff is to force folks, through the threat of deletion, to work on the article. You've done a bang-up job on the article, and you should be proud of that. Onel5969 TT me 17:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. I see both sides of the not for cleanup and use for cleanup arguments, although I favour the first one. I wonder if we could change the incentives towards us all collectively spending more time on article improvement.
- I'm imagining a system like an apprenticeship whereby nobody gets to create an article until they have first improved one to C-class level. I know what will never fly, but right now there are a bunch of indicates that many enjoy like number of articles created, number of articles deleted, number of AFDs proposed/won/lost etc, but much fewer incentives to do the work of improvement.
- I don't have a solution. But anyway, thanks again for your note. I appreciate wikipedia's culture of respectful disagreement. CT55555(talk) 17:14, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Trying to think of solutions as I start to understand better the motivations to use deletion as cleanup...what if there was a WikiProject:Article_Improvement?
- A place where editors who saw poor articles with potential, would like them improved, found tagging not to work, could direct improvement requests as a half way house between tagging and AFD? The project could use barnstars and leaderboards and other incentives (that I know some people will say are not, should not be needed, but I think the psychologists will agree do work) to incentivise improvement. What do you think? I see some polarization on Wikipedia and labeling of others (deletionist, inclusionist) and this might be a way to bridge some common ground and align people around a common purpose. CT55555(talk) 17:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Not ignoring this, but pretty busy, and want to devote appropriate time to the response. Onel5969 TT me 17:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, so finally have a moment or two. First I don't think that the C-class idea will ever fly. There are quite a few competent editors who do nothing but create stubs, which satisfy either GNG or one of the SNG's. In fact, I would hazzard a guess that there are more of those than editors who have created GA or FA articles. Second regarding WikiProject:Article_Improvement. I think that's a great idea. And much less prone to the issues which have cropped up from time to time over at Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron – Rescue list, where many editors treat it as a way to do fly-by voting at AfD, rather than actually improving articles. There are quite a few editors who love to work at improving articles (one of the first projects I was involved in was over at GOCE, for instance). I don't think you'd have the deletionist/inclusionist issue, since you're not asking folks to comment on notability, simply asking volunteers to help improve articles. It's a daunting task, but I think it could be a worthwhile one. I checked and there isn't a current project which is like the one you're proposing, although there are several similar ones: Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement, Wikipedia:WikiProject Lead Improvement Team, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub improvement, but none are what you're talking about. There are some interesting tips on starting a project at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide#Creating a WikiProject. I'd definitely be supportive, and would probably join the project, although I don't know how much help I'd be. One suggestion I have, is if you could sort the articles into areas of interest. For example, at NPP, we can sort by subject matter: e.g. films, geography, etc. That way folks with an interest in a particular area could focus on those. You'd also need to decide if there will be a template which can be added to existing articles which need work. Many projects use something like that (e.g. the stub templates, or copy edit templates), and that way an automatic article list would be created. Or, will you simply rely on folks adding articles to the list, similar to what ARS does? If you do go for it, I'll be happy to help in any way that I can, depending on my time commitments. Anyway, sorry for being so long-winded, but as I said, I wanted to give a comprehensive answer.Onel5969 TT me 18:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. Not ignoring this, but pretty busy, and want to devote appropriate time to the response. Onel5969 TT me 17:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- It could have been, but I think it was more a body of the entirety of our interactions. Other than the times when an AfD is closed solely on a !vote count, rather than policy, (which happens way too often), I rarely mind when an article is kept. I've said often, I know that some folks fervently believe that AfD is not for cleanup, but coming from the perspective of someone who takes patrolling new articles seriously, I much prefer the philosophy of the essay, Wikipedia:Using deletion as cleanup, as sometimes the only way to bring an article up to snuff is to force folks, through the threat of deletion, to work on the article. You've done a bang-up job on the article, and you should be proud of that. Onel5969 TT me 17:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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World War II and the history of Jews in Poland: Arbitration case opened
Hello CT55555,
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 04, 2023, which is when the first evidence phase closes. Submitted evidence will be summarized by Arbitrators and Clerks at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence/Summary. Owing to the summary style, editors are encouraged to submit evidence in small chunks sooner rather than more complete evidence later.
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Image stuff
Hello CT5! Copyright law and image licensing stuff is complicated and confusing. I think the only way that this article can legally include an image of their 2D work is if it is not in the public domain, or if it is uploaded with the proper non-free use rationale - see: Template:Non-free 2D art if there is enough critical commentary about the specific work in the article, and the image must be within non-free use specifications. This is why I started to include additional content on her MTA mural, The Brief Wonderous Life of Oscar Wao and also her installation, To breathe full and free: a declaration, a re-visioning, a correction (19º36’16.9”N 72º13’07.0’’W, 42º21’48.762’’N 71º1’59.628’’W). I think those paragraphs need to be more developed before fair-use images can be added.
Here's several links about images and image sourcing that may (or may not) be helpful:
- Uploading images
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- WP:FAIR Fair use
- WP:UPLOAD WP Uploader for images that can't be uploaded to Commons, such as fair use
- WP:CONSENT to get consent of copyright holder
- Wikipedia:File copyright tags/Free licenses
- Wikipedia:Image use policy
- Commons:Own work
- WP:DERIVATIVE
- 2D Copying
- Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter
- c:COM:CB#Museum and interior photography
- Hirtle Chart of WP/Commons Licences and criteria
- Template:PD-US-no notice
- Template:PD-US-not renewed
- File copyright tags
- Requesting copyright permission
- File copyright tags/Free licenses
- Commons:Public art and copyrights in the US
- Public domain no notice: {{PD-US-no notice}}
- Commons threshold of originality
- Photo of Art [[1]]
- Template:Non-free use rationale 2
Copyright law is very complicated and complex, and it is different in many countries. All best, Netherzone (talk) 16:10, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oh wow. OK. I think I'll just trust your conclusions rather than read all of this. Thanks. Peace. CT55555(talk) 16:47, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Re: your comment about image police, Ha ha! I'm trying to protect the artist's rights, not be a police-kitten. :-) Sorry if I sounded abrasive, I was trying to be helpful but sometimes I'm way too blunt, I apologize! Netherzone (talk) 17:06, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- No problem at all. I respect artists right's to their work. Although I am finding it weird that a photo taken in a public space would be a breach of them, but I defer to those with the expertise. My comment was fully tongue in cheek. CT55555(talk) 17:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Re: your comment about image police, Ha ha! I'm trying to protect the artist's rights, not be a police-kitten. :-) Sorry if I sounded abrasive, I was trying to be helpful but sometimes I'm way too blunt, I apologize! Netherzone (talk) 17:06, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Welcome to the club
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By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this special, very exclusive award created just for we few, we happy few, this band of brothers, who have shed sweat, tears and probably blood, in order to be able to proudly claim "I too have taken an article to Featured status". Gog the Mild (talk) 17:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC) |
- Thank you. This is my proudest day on Wikipedia so far. CT55555(talk) 17:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Congratulations!!! — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:13, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- As you may have gathered, that was an unusually tough FAC. You handled the situation with such aplomb that I am sure there will be many more FAs to come from you. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:20, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. I expected that degree of rigour, but still I thought I'd lost the path to success at one point. I am grateful for your advice about how to get things back on the rails.
- And you have predicted correctly, I plan to submit Uranium mining in the Bancroft area once I have incorporated all the learnings from this process into improving the article. CT55555(talk) 18:23, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- A quick drive-by comment on that before unwatching. Too many sub-sections. One only contains a single sentence. See FAC 2b. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for that tip.
- Regarding Ignace Tonené should I mark the article as Featured, update the talk page etc, or will someone else, or a bot do that? CT55555(talk) 19:18, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- You should find that a friendly bot has done it all for you. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. Indeed I did! CT55555(talk) 00:25, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- You should find that a friendly bot has done it all for you. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- A quick drive-by comment on that before unwatching. Too many sub-sections. One only contains a single sentence. See FAC 2b. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:34, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- As you may have gathered, that was an unusually tough FAC. You handled the situation with such aplomb that I am sure there will be many more FAs to come from you. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:20, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Congratulations!!! — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:13, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Promotion of Ignace Tonené
Notification of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Njacko Backo Plutonium27 (talk) 21:07, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Noted. Thanks. CT55555(talk) 21:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for sorting the template. I so seldom do an AfD because everytime somehow I fuck it up somewhere. best, Plutonium27 (talk) 21:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't actually fix it. I think it just take a moment. I have the same problem, I rarely nominate anything because I find the process so difficult. CT55555(talk) 02:14, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for sorting the template. I so seldom do an AfD because everytime somehow I fuck it up somewhere. best, Plutonium27 (talk) 21:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Satoko Kishimoto
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Triple Crown
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- Thank you. :-) CT55555(talk) 12:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Huge congratulations, CT55555! Cielquiparle (talk) 16:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. What amazed me most was how quickly Jimmy had it delivered to my location. I'm wearing it now and demanding things of my new subjects, lol. CT55555(talk) 16:48, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Huge congratulations, CT55555! Cielquiparle (talk) 16:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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Nomination of Ted Jorgensen for deletion
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Nomination of Jeremy Dewitte for deletion
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Albuquerque Unicycle Club
Hello, thanks for creating the Albuquerque Unicycle Club page. It looks like you have some insight knowledge here. I'm collecting all information about the history of unicycle hockey. If you have any photos or newspaper articles (in addition to what is now available through the wikipedia page) about unicycle hockey in Albuquerque, I'd be very interested in those! RolfSander (talk) 11:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I don't have any more information other than what I put into the article. I learned about it while writing the article about Ted Jorgensen and then when his notability was challenges, it prompted me to dive deeper to learn more. I found all the news articles via the newspaper archive of the Wikipedia Library, most editors can get free access to it and I recommend that highly for researching most things. CT55555(talk) 15:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Update: The book The Hot Rod World of Robert Williams identifies Robert Williams (artist) as a former member of the club and includes photographs. I was able to see them via Google Books. CT55555(talk) 02:01, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your replies and the information about the newspaper archive! I have a few minor comments about your changes on unicycle hockey page which I will post directly there... RolfSander (talk) 09:29, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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oops
I inadvertantly awarded this weeks award "out of sequence". I only noticed my mistake after I had inserted the Editor of the Week template on his page. I was ready to "undo" but realized that the cat would be out of the bag. Anyway....just thought you should know. ―Buster7 ☎ 15:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi friend, I am not sure which one you are talking about. CT55555(talk) 15:38, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Victuallers. ―Buster7 ☎ 15:47, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Ha, I guess I skipped the line. Like some sort of VIP-pass, but for free. :-) CT55555(talk) 16:56, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- Victuallers. ―Buster7 ☎ 15:47, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you (every day)
AfC notification: Draft:Růžena Dostálová has a new comment
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- Sorry this was more intended to be for the original creator of the draft and it went to you because you resubmitted it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:06, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Your sig.
Although I personally have no issues with your sig at all, I just though I'd make sure you were aware of Wikipedia:Signatures#Appearance and color as I feel some people might get picky about the yellow-on-white part and ask you to change it. Although again, I have nothing against it and won't do anything if you don't lol. ― Ghost of Dan Gurney 15:59, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback, I'll see if I can make it more contrasting somehow... CT55555(talk) 18:28, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Humanitarian protection
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Humanitarian protection you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Buidhe -- Buidhe (talk) 03:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oh thanks. I reverted an edit because I felt the lead was replicating content from the body, but then I realised I was wrong and added a date in, so I apologise for that. CT55555(talk) 03:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)