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Regular releases

Right, I removed Metal Slug, Pocky & Rocky, Battletoads, Alex Kidd and Kid Icarus then. Any others? Electricmastro (talk) 13:57, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the talk page, but it was still vague to me exactly which franchises do and don’t count. I suppose you might as well list out all the ones I should remove while on the subject. Also, should I re-add Metal Slug then? Electricmastro (talk) 14:22, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was going by 20+ year gaps, but now I think I’ll look through all the franchises again to see if there are any 10+ year gaps now. Thanks for the reply! Electricmastro (talk) 12:27, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accidental removal

Ah, sorry about the Oregon Trail removal. I'm usually pretty good about organizing things while editing articles, but that one must have slipped while adding things. Electricmastro (talk) 02:05, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Third opinion

Hi there Vipz! Thank you for seeking out a WP:Third opinion. As the discussion already had more than two participants, I removed the listing from the 3O page. If further local discussion is unable to resolve the dispute, you might consider WP:DRN. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 16:57, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hoary for Hollywood

I got inspired by List of longest-running video game franchises page witch you are a frequent editor to, to create a film page containing the 100 longest running film series & franchises and nearly done but wondering if anyone wants to help Finnish off I have be using Lists of feature film series

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About the Game Freak first issue edit I made

The year is here on the picture of the first issue (bottom right): https://niwanetwork.org/wiki/images/c/c5/Game_Freak_Vol._1.png --188.154.84.134 (talk) 20:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, readded the citation. -Vipz (talk) 08:18, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm caught by an IP range autoblock (apparently lasting until January 18, that's long to wait), and resetting my router/renewing IP didn't help. I haven't been evading any blocks since creation of this account in 2017, nor ever did any edits on English Wikipedia without being logged-in as far as I remember.

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You should be able to edit now. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Revert of Earth images

Hey, I saw you revert my addition of Earth's image at Oceania and Europe. Why do you think that it is not worthy of inclusion? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vipz, I am doing WP:BRD here, ping to notify. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CactiStaccingCrane: As I said in the edit summaries, they're A) photographs of the whole Earth; B) from very far away and you can barely see the continents; C) the section in Europe#Name is about the origin of the continent's name, and the two pictures are about that. The satellite image has nothing to do with Europe's name. If you believe I'm wrong, please bring it up on the talk pages of these articles and get more people to agree with you. -Vipz (talk) 12:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think that both issues A and B can be solved easily by cropping, but I would like to have someone color-correct these photos just like in Earth article. I do agree about C though, but these prior images are just as rubbish as they do not illustrate the continent's name nor a concept said in these paragraph. I am more than happy to relocate these images somewhere else like the geography section. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@CactiStaccingCrane: Maybe we could include a satellite photograph in each continent article, but there must be better photos than that one. For example, maybe this one for Oceania. I wouldn't like complete removal of those 2 "continent name" images until you or someone can suggest a better alternative. I really suggest bringing this up on Talk:Europe so other editors can see and participate in the discussion. Thanks. -Vipz (talk) 13:04, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I choose the photographic images because they are "real" images and not specialized to a certain wavelength. I left a thread about this at Europe article as well. Cheers, CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 13:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Spelling alphabets

As far as I can see, that your edit in Polish alphabet is undone by some other User, who also mentioned that "this is not a random list of names, this is the official Polish spelling alphabet". Should I point at exactly the same circumstance in Serbian language article? Or you may proceed with chasing my edits in similiar articles on Hungarian and Finnish as well? Heffalump1974 (talk) 07:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Heffalump1974: I was not aware of "the spelling alphabet" as I've never seen it on any language articles. It would have been helpful to point it out in your edit summary the first time I reverted you. I was made aware by that other user, you never "also" mentioned this. Thanks. -Vipz (talk) 08:22, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I've made a perfectly fine question and argument in the edit summary of Serbian language revert, which you never answered back for. Quote: "Is a list of example words for each letter necessary? Even if it were, it would belong to the Serbo-Croatian article, but I don't think it is." You can just undo my edits with your counterarguments, and preferably make it clear to other editors and readers where do theselike things come from, i.e. like this. -Vipz (talk) 08:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vipz: Sorry, my fault, I really should have appeal to you after the very first reverting. As for Serbian — I was not sure to which article it belongs, in consideration of long and rather complicated history of Serbian/Croatian relations and current structure of articles. But such an alphabet do exist for a certain period and it is a part of the language itself, culture, history, etc. Like "Victor Charlie" or "Николай, Иван, Харитон, Ульяна, Яков". However, if this matter is unimportant for the Wikipedia, it should be gone. Sincerely yours, Heffalump1974 (talk) 08:54, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Heffalump1974: No worries. I had undone my revert on Serbian language, but its necessity was questioned by another user shortly later. It seems like the spelling alphabet that you put in the article is an outdated one from Yugoslav times, but I found an updated list while looking for sources to add. I posted about it in this discussion Talk:Serbian language#Spelling alphabet. -Vipz (talk) 12:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vipz: Great! Thanks a lot for updating it. Heffalump1974 (talk) 17:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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My IP has been caught by the block of Special:Contributions/Saschainfo, but as you can check, my account isn't for promotional purposes. -Vipz (talk) 10:15, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

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Accept reason: As per below, you should be good to go now! Yamla (talk) 11:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kuru: I suggest the block on 212.15.176.0/20 should be changed to anon-only. What are your thoughts? Alternatively, IPBE may be appropriate here. --Yamla (talk) 11:41, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla:, the target of the range block is not super subtle - likely easier to just sweep for the certain keywords periodically than inconvenience Vipz. I've modified the range block to anon-only. Kuru (talk) 11:47, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Kuru! Much appreciated. --Yamla (talk) 11:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Croatia

Hello. I saw you try to salvage this caption in this edit after it became a bit confused after another user’s edit. They once again removed “Croatia” leaving the caption just “map of dialects and Bosnia”. Regardless. I see that the caption used to say “map of Croatian dialects..” and the image shows this title as well but which dialects is it talking about? As some of these dialects are under Serbian and in fact all three would be “Serbo-Croatian”. Which of the dialects are “Croatian” so as the map legend claims? Seems like a Croatian Nationalist pov generated map. Been there for a while it seems unnoticed. If you could take a look it would be appreciated. Cheers, OyMosby (talk) 20:28, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@OyMosby: The name of the map (and the previous caption) suggests the whole BiH population speaks a "Croatian" dialect. I know there are Croatian minorities in BiH that like to call their language according to the national label, but it can't include the whole of BiH and simultaneously call the entire Shtokavian that it spoken there a "Croatian dialect". I therefore took a neutral approach and listed just the dialect names. Would you suggest something else? -Vipz (talk) 07:40, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is basically the last bastion of "Croatian language" on English Wikipedia. Readers who click to read the article are given to read something entirely different. For comparison, Serbia#Language does not claim Shtokavian is a "Serbian dialect", just says its standard language is based on it, and its map shows where "Serbian" is an official and minority language. Since I can't find an image like it but for "Croatian" one would have to be made. On another hand, Bosnia and Herzegovina#Languages and Montenegro#Languages avoid making a circus and are blunt about it - it's the same language, Serbo-Croatian. -Vipz (talk) 08:16, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may want to double check what I wrote as I wasn’t disagreeing with your edit. As I specifically stated that calling all three dialects Croatian is a “Croatian nationalist pov” as is the map if you look at the title in that map. And I called all three Serbo-Croatian. As Shtokavian is the main dialect that Serbians speaks so calling it only Croatian is nonsense. Maybe you are used to dealing with Serbian and Croatian nationalists so perhaps a defensive reaction so no worries. I’m glad to see the same issue was remedied on the Serbia article as it used to be the last bastion for the Serbian language as well. Croatia needs to be fixed accordingly as well. Also for Bosnia, being a three ethnic presidency, it’s evidently going to be called Serbo-Croatian, also as there isn’t a claim of a Montenegrin version per say so those articles really aren trying to be “blunt” or avoid the “circus” as they have no other option so fortunately it didn’t have to be as stubborn an issue. The heavy ethno-induction of the Serbo-Croatian remains a dangerous political tool. As it was used to justify attempts of annexing territories in the past. Believe me, you and I share the same viewpoints on the language and the unnecessary politics behind it. I was writing to you to point out that there is still an issue with the dialect map still claiming all three dialects as “Croatian dialects”. The title in the map image needs to be changed or a better dialect map used. Also I was asking you if perhaps they meant the first two dialects that primarily only exist in modern Croatia that aren’t Shtokavian? Perhaps the other two dialects are why partly the Croatian separate language identifier is pushed as those dialects aren’t used really outside the country, not sure nor am I the most educated on linguistics. In normal day, when I refer to the language I just say Serbo-Croatian, personally. Though it ends up confusing people not familiar with the ex-Yugo countries lol. Also it is interesting how Slovenian ended up being considerable different from the other South Slavic nations. I honestly don’t understand why Bosnia needs to be included in the dialect map as the article is about Croatia not Croats. OyMosby (talk) 12:10, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@OyMosby: Oh, I'm sorry if I came off rude. I started the message defensively but later realized you weren't defending it. I didn't look at it closely, but yes, the same claim of "Croatian dialects" is also in the picture. I suggest replacing it with another image, otherwise you'll enter a revert war with the uploader. I agree with you wholeheartedly on the language politics; I could write walls of texts with my opinions on this, but all of that has been rinsed and repeated years after years. So we should either make a map like on Serbian article with "official" and "minority" colored countries, or make a map of these dialects only within Croatia, without including any parts of BiH. -Vipz (talk) 13:09, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just remembered this conversation! No worries. And thanks for taking care of it. :) Stay well. OyMosby (talk) 23:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please note that this edit does not actually qualify as minor, cf. Help:Minor edit. Please simply avoid that checkbox for such edits in the future. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for notifying me. I have the minor edit checkbox on by default when doing small edits, like adding one sentence in this case. -Vipz (talk) 15:36, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can that default behavior be modified? Sometimes a single short word edit is non-minor :) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 16:29, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon, I checked again, that option is disabled on EN Wikipedia, but I have it enabled on all other projects. It's just a habit to mark as minor what I consider minor. -Vipz (talk) 19:43, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Yugoslavia

I changed it to simply Yugoslavia because when Tito came to power the state was known as the Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia, it wasn't called the Socialist Federal Republic until 1963. Gorrrillla5 (talk) 01:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gorrrillla5 I believe per MOS:CONTEXTBIO which also refers to WP:MODERNPLACENAME, the latest name of the country when he ruled it should be used, which is SFRY. President of Yugoslavia article uses SFRY as the latest full name of the title. As there were 3 different states called "Yugoslavia" (Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Federal Republic of Yugoslavia), two of which had presidents, it should be made clear from the start (in the lead section) which Yugoslavia he was a president of. -Vipz (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the third time my IP address/range has been autoblocked. I'm using neither a "peer-to-peer proxy" or VPN. My current IP matches the blocked IP. Refreshing my router doesn't seem to work. -Vipz (talk) 19:15, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Serbo-Croatian

Even the redirect leads to the page: Serbo-Croato-Slovene. Doremon764 (talk) 00:32, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Previous name of Serbo-Croatian. Doremon764 (talk) 00:33, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Doremon764: It's not a previous name of the language. The language has been known as "Serbo-Croatian" since at least 1820's, a whole century before Kingdom of Yugoslavia made up a name for the pan-Slavic concept of an inexistent "Serbo-Croato-Slovene". Placing it alongside contemporary names and bolding it gives an impression the article is about the official language of Yugoslavia, but it is not, it's about a contemporary language. The name is already mentioned further down the lede and in article content, which is enough. -Vipz (talk) 00:47, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yugoslavian vs Yugoslav

Hi Vipz, ended up on your article "Jugoslavijo" after seing your comment on Sheng's talk page about the demonym for Yugoslav(ian) stuff.

First off all (off-topic), it quiet surprised me that the song is actually called "Jugoslavijo", since I remember that it was almost always being referred to as Od Vardara pa do Triglava, even if I remember seeing "Jugoslavijo" on some albums: [1], [2]. Maybe I remembered something wrong, but I even think that I once red the title "Od Vardara pa do Triglava" on vinyl many, many years ago.

Nevermind, back on topic:

I saw that in this article you were using the demonym Yugoslavian. Do you know what literature says about the demonym(s) "Yugoslav/Yugoslavian"? I always used to believe that Yugoslav was the only correct form in English language. The more I researched about this, I ended up finding out that there are even authors using the term Yugoslavian in some cases. What do you think about this? IMHO, it is obv. the Yugoslav Dinar and not the Yugoslavian Dinar (just as an example), but in which cases would you use Yugoslavian and in which Yugoslav?

Best regards and have a good night, Koreanovsky (talk) 22:08, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Koreanovsky I don't know of any literature discussing the two, though "Yugoslav" seems to be much more prevalent than "Yugoslavian" as an adjective. JSTOR gives 27,300 results for "Yugoslav" and only 6,010 for "Yugoslavian" - likewise for demonyms - 4,040 results for "Yugoslavs" and 339 for "Yugoslavians". Google Ngram also confirms this is the case. I personally use "Yugoslav" more and "Yugoslavian" when it feels like a better choice. It would be great to have a professional Wikipedian linguist to research this for our supposed MOS page, and why such a page would be really useful to consult when in dilemma. I agree with your examples. -Vipz (talk) 11:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would definitely be great, yeah - we need some sort of "norm" for such cases. You will even find terms like "Yugoslavic" (literally South Slavic) instead of Yugoslav(ian), but I think that in the end we are just talking about synonyms that are many not wrong, but it is also not fully known how correct they are. I remember from old English language newspapers that in the early 20th century some authors even spelled Yugoslav as "Jugoslav".

Have a nice day, Koreanovsky (talk) 13:41, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@Beyond My Ken unlike you, I will in fact keep this notification on my talk page. What I've said in these other places still applies: You have restored unsourced content three times without policy-based reasons and told me I'm the one supposed to prove something is not true by citing sources, completely contrary to WP:BURDEN. And yes, per WP:ONUS, for something to be even considered worthy of inclusion, it must be verifiable. -Vipz (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you and happy New Year to you too @Abishe! -Vipz (talk) 10:22, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Temerin incident

This really happened. You rearrange, you don't have to delete everything. Savasampion (talk) 21:01, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Savasampion: I don't have the slightest of doubts that it happened (as do incidents the other way around). Searching for "Temerin incident" on Google, apart from this 2004 incident, more recent results talk about yet another similar attack in the same place, from 2011. As much as it's unfortunate that they happen (too many to even list), they do not have direct relevance nor connection to the Đorđe Martinović incident for that section to stay on that article. -Vipz (talk) 21:31, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are great similarities (provinces of Serbia, ethnic suspicion, the manner of the case...), so for those reasons I believe that you can put the year when it happened and that for those reasons it should be merged with this page.--Savasampion (talk) 21:40, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Moldovan

I'm not sure about adding obsolete ISO codes to the language table. We don't do that for most languages, Dalecarlian for example. We do mention them in the text; the info box is intended as a summary of relevant info, not of historical trivia.

As for Glottolog and Linguasphere, those codes are for Moldavian dialect of Romanian, not for the Moldovan standard. — kwami (talk) 08:13, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kwamikagami: You could've posted this on the talk page of that article, so others in the future are warned of not doing what you recommend me not to do. That said, I don't think obsolete ISO codes are historical trivia, not in the context of the subject being talked about. None (mis) gives a very different impression to "something" (deprecated) to readers glancing over just the infobox – as if it never had any ISO codes vs. had them but they were deprecated. These ISO codes were the basis of Moldovan Wikipedia and remain functioning (won't be assigned to any other languages and for historical 'recordings' i.e. uses). As for the latter two, fair removal. -Vipz (talk) 08:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, this is LeonChrisfield

I have a question for you: why do you keep undoing my edits? LeonChrisfield (talk) 15:08, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LeonChrisfield: I find many of them problematic, as do many others that revert many of your edits. -Vipz (talk) 21:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of problems? Edits that do not match Wikipedia standards? Oh LeonChrisfield (talk) 21:25, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tito’s views on LGBT

Hi, I read through the whole Tito page, and there is no mention of him criminalizing LGBT communities. Is it accurate to consider him homophobic due to the anti-LGBT laws that existed in Former Yugoslavia? LeonChrisfield (talk) 15:46, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LeonChrisfield the correct article to consult would be LGBT history in Yugoslavia (there is also a bit more insightful article on Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia, which I worked on and plan translating). It is difficult to put this into few words or give a yes/no answer because treatment and legality of homosexuality was the last thing Tito could have in his mind or care about. The Communist Party as a whole was responsible in its failure to put forward any kind of improvements for LGBT people until many decades of reign. The rest can be read on that article. -Vipz (talk) 03:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Serb(ian) language

That language is called Srpski/Српски which literally means Serb. Why is it called Serbian if in the same language it means Srbijanski/Србијански (from Serbia)? Savasampion (talk) 11:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Savasampion: -ian is a suffix specific to the English language: Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Italian, Russian, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, etc. Afaik, they were mostly derived from their geographical whereabouts: i.e. Serbia = Serbian, Bosnia = Bosnian, Croatia = Croatian, Russia = Russian, Bulgaria = Bulgarian, etc. Few languages/dialects were named after ethnic groups, e.g. Rusyn. It's not up to us to make up alternatives to the standard and use them on Wikipedia - "Serb" is not a common name for "Serbian", as isn't "Rus" for "Russian". "Serbian language" does not translate to "Srbijanski jezik" though, as doesn't "Srpski jezik" to "Serb language", because translations are dictated by standards set for each language. -Vipz (talk) 11:43, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A brownie for you!

Thank you for your tireless participation in all things Yugoslavia and the Balkans! It's good to know that there are other users who care as much as you; thank you! ---✠ Emperor of Byzantium ✠ (talk) 14:35, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The Emperor of Byzantium: Thank you so much on this award as well! Sorry for not replying sooner, I was away (this is evident from my contributions log). To be honest, the work I've done to date is only surface-level and from information that can be found online; I do plan to engage in more thorough writing and research in the future, including getting into physical literature. Cheers and thanks again! -Vipz (talk) 12:25, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Vipz, surface-level or not (and I think you do yourself a real disservice) praise should be rewarded... too often on Wikipedia comments and feedback are ether negative and non-existent, so keep up the great work, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise =) ✠ Emperor of Byzantium ✠ (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Socialist state

Munster was also called a communist state https://books.google.com/books?id=k35piIm2C90C&pg=PA158#v=onepage&q&f=false so it's not a stretch in the EPHEMERAL section Rote1234 (talk) 20:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Rote1234: A 16th century communal theocracy, a big outlier in the list consisting of definitively 'socialist' 20th century states with the exception of Paris Commune that concepted development of socialism in its modern meaning, definitively looks like a stretch to me. But as I have no expertise on Christian communism and pre-19th century socialist history, I request you to post a talk page section about this on Talk:List of socialist states and request expertise from/notify Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Socialism to judge this addition. Thank you for understanding. ^^ -Vipz (talk) 20:55, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Old Croatian

Hi Vipz, per WP:DABNAME, if there is no primary topic, the title of a disambiguation page is the ambiguous term itself, and the title containing the (disambiguation) qualifier is a redirect to the disambiguation page. I have switched around Old Croatian (disambiguation) and Old Croatian accordingly. Leschnei (talk) 14:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Culture War in Croatia

Hello,

Why do you think my edit was NPOV, or that it doesn't have anything specific to Croatia? The question of Vatican Treaties is for example specific for Croatia? Also, first thing when I opened news this morning - news about people kneeling on Ban Jelačić Square with their rosaries and counter protesters (although the edit is removed now so I cannot add this).

In my opinion there is indeed a culture war ongoing in Croatia between two sets of beliefs. I was just trying to describe the situation in society. Franjo Tahy (talk) 09:05, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Franjo Tahy. Okay so, here's how regarding non-NPOV:

In Croatia, society is divided in two "camps". – false and oversimplified. There is never just black and white in any society. Apparently there are no secular conservatives, no religious liberals, anything to the left of 'secular-liberals' doesn't exist. Which so-called major "camps" there exist is something far from specific to Croatia.
The first group of people are conservatives close to Catholic church; suspicious towards modern secular values, multiculturalism, political correctness and gender theory. – 'suspicious' is here used as if it is something positive.
Another group of people are secular-liberals and advocates the package of values imported from The West. – 'package of values imported from the West' is here used as if it's something foreign and therefore abnormal for said society and bad.

Something could be written about those reactionaries in Zagreb but not in such a way to sugar-coat them. The rest of text is just examples to try back up points made above. –Vipz (talk) 22:38, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I rarely see culture war between these smaller shades of Croatian political spectrum. Mostly it's just leftists against rightists.

I wasn't using word suspitious as neither negative nor positive. Feel free to suggest better word then.

It doesn't mean western values are abnormal, it just means that they weren't created locally but came among Croatians from a different place, just like for example Christianity once did. We shouldn't quite call them reactionaries as it has pejorative connotations, we should remain balanced. Franjo Tahy (talk) 23:23, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Franjo Tahy, let me try clear some things up:

liberalism (and neoliberalism) encompases a wide spectrum of political standings, from centre-left (social liberalism) throughout centre to centre-right (conservative liberalism). In the United States, where the overton window is so far to the right, they are perceived as the left-wing of politics. In Nordic countries they are perceived as the right-wing of politics. In Croatia, liberalism is pretty much centre/centre-right; social democracy constitutes the major centre-left wing of politics here.
If having 'leftists against rightists' clash against each other constitutes a 'culture war', then virtually every country in the world is in one. But again, nothing wrong by having a paragraph about Croatia somewhere in there as long as it's well written, as previously said.
'suspicious' implies questioning other groups' basic human rights is apparently something completely normal to do. Why would we not call them 'reactionaries'? Because it is inconvenient for the right-wing narrative? How the tables have turned!
'packaged and imported form the West' is a well known right-wing rhetoric used to try discredit (actual) left-wing values. Students in schools are taught to nurture everything domestic and local (nothing wrong with that on the surface), and right-wing values just conveniently happen to be 'locally created' while left-wing ones are 'foreign imported' according to your rhetoric.
'Western values' do not exist, it is a political neologism. The 'West' is as much a bastion of rightism as it is of leftism.

–Vipz (talk) 15:02, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Look, on one hand, I partially understand your points... On the other I don't know how to write that better in a way that it would suit you, so you can either re-write it yourself or leave it as it is. Franjo Tahy (talk) 19:43, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Vipz reported by User:VQuakr (Result: ). Thank you. VQuakr (talk) 02:33, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map change at Bans on communist symbols

Hi, I noticed you changed the png to an svg on the article Bans on communist symbols. However, in the process, you removed Crimea from the colouration intended to represent Ukraine. I am not sure if you intended to do so, but I'm unaware of any consensus elsewhere on that representation, and hence have reverted to the version that shows the internationally recognised borders. Please advise if there is a basis for doing so. Fermiboson (talk) 08:14, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved using a different blank map. –Vipz (talk) 08:47, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bastian Schweinsteiger

Explanation? Re-reverting? Don't make me laugh. The reason for deletion is already written in that motherfucking article, but I guess you didn’t want to read it because you had already decided to disrespect me. I’m very thankful for that. Anyway, calling only two articles "multiple" is the funniest joke I’ve ever seen on the Internet. (Personal attack removed) Juniv0862 (talk) 03:24, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoidh: the user above is seeking an indef. –Vipz (talk) 08:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Juniv0862's comment above was unacceptable, and I have removed the egregious portion and they have been blocked. - Aoidh (talk) 08:50, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My question regarding Tudman

Is it true that Franjo Tudman was a Neo-Ustašeist and a quasi-fascist who conducted ethnic cleansings against Serbs and Bosnians? I would like to hear your opinion on this as a Croat. LeonChrisfield (talk) 23:50, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry @LeonChrisfield, I don't think I'm in position to answer questions like these at the time. Though don't make a conclusion like this without looking at the big picture and recognizing similar features from other sides of the wars. –Vipz (talk) 01:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Leon, I’m curious as to how you formed such a basis of a question considering the Wikipedia articles available. Where did it come from? Not completely the ICTY take I don’t think. He was found guilty of being part of a joint criminal enterprise with the goal of ethnic cleansing Bosniaks from parts of Western Bosnia. The rest of the question seems more a simplified nationalist B&W pov sourced take . Tudjman was not as extreme a case as Milosevic and others, however he was a scumbag for sure, but for many other reasons. I echo Vipz’s response. OyMosby (talk) 20:38, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI

An editor has started a thread at ANI about an issue you've been involved in. The thread is: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#user:Vipz deletes reliable sources and adds something that is not written in the sources. Thank you. Nythar (💬-🍀) 10:52, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Potential canvassing

Hi Vipz! Hope you are doing well. Just wanted to let you know that it appears an IP address you had a back and forth with is trying to canvas users they deem will agree with their views on Serb-Croatian vs Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, etc. They also appear to have launched an ANI against you. OyMosby (talk) 20:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @OyMosby! I hope you're doing well too. I'm aware of the canvassing going on behind the scenes, though I judge that not every misdeed is worthy of immediately raising alarm on. It will be taken into account if the discussion develops into the direction IP intends it to do. –Vipz (talk) 05:08, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

True, just wanted to be sure. Hopefully the user decides to take a more calm and collected approach. Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 05:46, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can I ask you something about you?

Hi Vipz This question may seem a bit absurd.
Are you really interested in Yugoslavia? I have seen your edits on the pages about Yugoslavia and all former Member States. (Actually, I'm interested as well.) Noobythailand (talk) 10:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]