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Archive 1

Retirement in 2006

I know this puts bad news on someone, but I do hope the name Gordon is retired in 2006...let's get it out of their misery, even if it does far less devastation than in 1994! CrazyC83 23:10, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Retire it commemoratively. The WMO need to take some legitimate heat for their idiocy. They need to redeem themselves.
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 18:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Removal of "Haiti's tragic hurricane history" from article

While Hurricane Gordon could certainly be included in the subject of Haiti's tragic hurricane history, I dont believe that it should be included in the Hurricane Gordon article as it does not directly relate to information on Hurricane Gordon. Perhaps this would be better noted on Haiti's Wikipedia page. I have updated the topic to more accurately reflect the devastation in Haiti that was caused by Hurricane Gordon, and removed the specific references to the other storms. (10/10/2005) Fumetsu

Agreed
E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 22:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Beware of possible changes during the hurricane re-analysis with this storm

A number of meteorologists believe that the system that ejected out of the Caribbean into the southwest Atlantic and the subtropical cyclone that formed in the Florida Straits were two different systems; both are currently considered one system named Gordon. There was a brief time period where one could follow the two different low centers. Just an FYI, in case it is ever decided to split the track of Gordon into two separate tracks in the next decade during the hurricane re-analysis. Thegreatdr 17:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Very interesting. Yea, looking at satellite images, it looks like Gordon 1 dissipated near Cuba while Gordon 2 was developing. Time will tell, and that would be cool if that happened. I'm always for getting more storms in a season after the fact. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Based on my observations using the GIBBS imagry, it appears that Gordon was one storm. At one point north of Cuba, it does appear as though the system has two LLCCs. However, looking farther back, there doesn't seem to be any other systems active in the southwestern Atlantic until Gordon gets there. Once Gordon gets there, it seems to interact with a trough moving off the east coast of the United States. That trough shows up quite clearly in this reverse infrared image as that smaller black mass off the Carolinas north of Gordon's outer bands. Gordon had a broad circulation as it was and when it hit Cuba, weakened, and interated with that trough [1], the circulation became elongated from the northeast to the southwest [2]. This caused the storm to appear as though it had two centers. When the trough became less of an influence [3], Gordon's circulation consolidated [4]. That is my hypothesis, based on my analysis of the satellite imagry. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 22:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Better pic

I added a GIBBS image to replace the other, really close up one. I know, GIBBS isn't exactly the best, but at least you can see the whole storm and get an idea on where it's at. If you have a problem with it, just revert it. ;)→Cyclone1→ 19:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Pic

Where did that close-up, NASA pic go? That was the best one we had. -- §HurricaneERIC§ archive 00:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Uhh... I posted above saying where I took it off. It was waaaaaay too close, so I posted a new GIBBS image. Now, my pic has been replaced with a color image (which personally can't compare to either of the previous pics.) So, that's where it went. Feel free to put it back in the article. →Cyclone1→ 22:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Yellow Evan (talk · contribs) 16:54, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

More at 22 UTC tonight. YE Pacific Hurricane 16:54, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Todo

Good article. More info should be merged into the haiti section from the impact section. Also, references are needed. Jdorje 21:22, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I dropped it to start class. I don't think it's quite organized enough yet. Hurricanehink 18:24, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
That's because our standards are going up! This was B-class when I first assessed it. But I don't disagree with Start-class. — jdorje (talk) 05:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
True, and it's always good when standards go up. Hurricanehink 00:47, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Way too much is needed for the article for this to be considered C-class: impact? preps? aftermath? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 06:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Preparations is the most glaring omission from this article. Once that is added, it should have enough of the correct structure for a C class article. An impact section already exists, even if it is not as long as some might like. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Preparations and aftermath, at the least, are needed for C-Class. Anything higher definitely needs a substantially expanded impact section. The MH looks good, though. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

If someone is looking to expand upon the article information-wise, there are rainfall totals listed on a few HPC rainfall pages related to the system. I just uploaded a more current version of the rainfall graphic to commons. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Todo again

More everything!. Storm05 18:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Link --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:52, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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By consensus within the talk page, the article needs a preparation and an aftermath section before it can reach C or B class. An expanded lead would help out as well. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 18:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 18:31, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 30 October 2016

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The result of the move request was: No consensus for a move. I might suggest making Hurricane Gordon redirect to this page, and add a hatnote to direct readers to the other storms listed at Tropical Storm Gordon. (non-admin closure) Bradv 21:59, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Hurricane Gordon (1994) → Hurricane Gordon – Obviously the primary topic. Jdcomix (talk) 14:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC), Relisting. Jdcomix (talk) 14:45, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 8 February 2017

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) TonyBallioni (talk) 02:11, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Gordon (1994) → Hurricane Gordon – It may be the primary topic. Gordon in 1994 caused more than 1,100 deaths and the damage is near $600 million. 219.79.250.146 (talk) 00:53, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

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It's about time...

Alright, so this has been bothering me for a while, and I'm sorry, but I just had to bring this up. If Hurricane Gert and Hurricane Karl are primary topics, then why isn't Gordon? Like Gert and Karl, whose reasoning for primary topics were that they were the most significant storms of their name, this Gordon is the most significant storm of its name (yes, there is Gordon 2006, but it was not even a tropical cyclone when it struck Europe, and its impacts were far less significant). Additionally, Gordon has its own meteorological history page, and is the only non-primary topic to have so due to its interesting meteorological history (which is another reason why it could be moved). It's been nearly twelve years, and despite the fact that its by far the most significant Gordon, it still has the year attached. It might finally be time to take off the year. Cooper 14:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

@Cyclonebiskit: @Jasper Deng: @Jason Rees: @MarioProtIV: What do you all think?

Have a look at the two Requested Moves above for why it hasn't been moved yet, the main argument seems to be about Gordon's impact on Europe.Jason Rees (talk) 23:01, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Which I understand, but it seems that Gordon's impact on Europe is far less significant than that on Haiti (Gordon was extratropical by the time it reached Europe anyways) Cooper 23:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
I am personally open to it being moved but you will need to go through another requested move. However, the fact that it was extratropical means nothing especially these days, as the names are still used and can be retired because of their impacts.Jason Rees (talk) 23:54, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, that's true now that I look at it. For example Sandy, which wasn't tropical during its New Jersey landfall. Will probably wait a while to do another move request, as I feel I've done too many. Cooper 02:23, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Gordon 06 is significant on its own though to readers in Europe. YE Pacific Hurricane 01:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 13 October 2021

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The result of the move request was: Consensus exists per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC to move the page to Hurricane Gordon. NoahTalk 19:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

The 1994 Hurricane Gordon is clearly the primary topic. It did significantly more damage and killed more people than all of the other storms named "Gordon" in the North Atlantic, including every other Gordon that made it to hurricane status. The death toll of 1,122 is also significantly higher that what we see from most storms in the Atlantic hurricane basin in contemporary times. The pageviews for the 1994 storm shows that its article usually receives significantly more traffic than those of the other hurricanes with the same name. Sure, a couple of the other Gordons in the North Atlantic were also pretty significant for the areas they impacted (specifically, the 2006 and the 2018 storms), but none of the other storms come anywhere close to this storm in terms of overall significance. Also, the vast majority of mentions on "Hurricane Gordon" that I've seen in the media refer to the 1994 storm. Whenever I see an article referring to a "Hurricane Gordon" that referenced it as a strong candidate for retirement (without the year mentioned), it was always referring to the 1994 storm. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:CONCISE, any storm that is clearly the primary topic should get the main title, without the year. The actual retirement status is irrelevant. While most of the retired storms are the respective primary topics, some of them clearly aren't. As such, I propose moving this article to "Hurricane Gordon." LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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