Talk:Joe Burrow
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I would suggest that this line below be removed from the current bowl games subsection within Career History, and instead put something similar to his "SEC Champion (2019)" listing under Career highlights and awards. The Big Ten Championship is a conference championship, and not a bowl game.
- Removed CCG from bowls. Not gonna add it to career highlights because he was not the starter and the section is too long as it is. Ostealthy (talk) 15:29, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
full name is Joseph Lee Burrow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C4A:7880:A4:79E4:D3CE:1CA7:E7D9 (talk) 22:16, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- User: 2600:6C4A:7880:A4:79E4:D3CE:1CA7:E7D9 do you have a Reliable Source that confirms this? Ostealthy (talk) 02:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- His name is printed Joseph Lee Burrow on his LSU diploma
- https://www.10tv.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image/public/2019/12/20/joeburrow-masterslsu.jpg?itok=ESdIE5V- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:280:775:F403:76AC:707C:DA1A (talk) 03:34, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Also printed Joseph Lee Burrow in his undergraduate commencement program from Ohio State University
- https://registrar.osu.edu/staff/commence_bulletins/sp2018_commence.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:280:775:F403:76AC:707C:DA1A (talk • contribs)
- Thanks, good enough for me. Ostealthy (talk) 14:33, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Joe Burrow. Congratulations it is a well done page. If I may offer one suggestion?
The opening paragraph has a large problem. It reads “Burrow won the Heisman Trophy for the 2019 season. Before transferring to LSU, Burrow began his collegiate career at Ohio State.”
It makes many of the internet speed readers think Joe Burrow won his Heisman at Ohio State.
My suggestion: Burrow began his collegiate career at Ohio State before transferring to LSU where he worked with their coaches to evolve into a premier record setting quarterback. Burrow won the Heisman trophy his second and final year at LSU. Cnoteriot (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Cnoteriot, I don't think there's much opportunity for confusion as the article is currently written. Your suggestion also uses an unencyclopedic tone. Ostealthy (talk) 04:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Does "In 2019, his second and final season with LSU" not make it clear? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Dissident93: the revision at the time of his comment did not include that phrase. Ostealthy (talk) 22:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree the opening paragraph is worded awkwardly. Cam Newton's page is much better, reading: After starting his college football career as a backup to Tim Tebow at Florida, Newton transferred to Blinn College. He then joined Auburn, where he won the BCS National Championship and Heisman Trophy in 2010. I'm going to edit it to read something closer to that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcarne7 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2020
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2605:A000:1110:48D8:88DD:93CF:EDB0:AB1A (talk) 20:19, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Joe burrow is from Athens,Ohio not Iowa.
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 20:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Did you not check the source? Birthplace is not the same as hometown. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 00:12, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Add Lists of..
Consider addending the following to the main article:
See also
- List of NCAA Division I FBS career passing yards leaders
- List of NCAA Division I FBS career passing touchdowns leaders
- List of NCAA major college football yearly passing leaders
- List of NCAA major college football yearly total offense leaders
Since he had one of the greatest seasons in FBS history, it might be noteworthy to see where he ranks.72.174.71.134 (talk) 01:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- These should be added into the article as prose instead, assuming they aren't already there. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 03:18, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Bait30 (talk · contribs) 21:47, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
I'll take a look at this. My review should be complete sometime within the next 7 days. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 21:47, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Lead
- lead looks good.
Early years
- "The elder Burrow, whose last coaching position was defensive coordinator for the Ohio Bobcats for more than a decade, retired after the 2018 season in part to be able to see all of Joe's games in his final college season.": personally, this sentence might a little bit out of scope. (3b)
- "One day while visiting the office": unclear what "the office" is referring to. (1a)
- "the seven year old had a future": might be better to say "the seven year old Burrow had a future" (1a)
- "Jimmy Burrow": try to keep it consistent. either Jim Burrow or Jimmy Burrow, but not both. (1a)
College career
- looks good
Professional career
- "Burrow was one of 58 players invited to the draft, which was held virtually due to social distancing regulations arising from the COVID-19 pandemic, where he was selected first overall by the Cincinnati Bengals." The "which was held virtually...pandemic" part isn't necessary in my opinion. And I would specify which draft. (1a/3b)
- "He became the first rookie n NFL history": fix minor typo (1a)
- Statistics table: instead of making "Career" an external link, just cite it in the same style as the College statistics table. In other words, make it a proper citation. (2b)
Joe played in 17 games in 2021, not 16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthchri (talk • contribs) 16:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Personal life
- it's fine
Images
- All images are related with appropriate copyright tags.
Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 23:29, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
References
The reference numbers come from this version of the article.
- 23: I'm not sure that Tiger Droppings can be considered a reliable source. I can't find any evidence on their website about editorial oversight per WP:QUESTIONABLE.
- Replaced with reliable source. Lucky7jrk (talk) 15:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok, my review is done. I'll place this on hold for the standard 7 days. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 04:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- Your changes look good. The article passes all the criteria now. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 06:13, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Mac Jones broke 2 records
Jones broke both Burrow's passer rating and his seasonal completion percentage.72.174.131.123 (talk) 04:15, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Joe Burrow
I need to know if you. Can get a message to Joe B.? 2603:6010:6F00:5577:7C88:D1E1:DD76:C38D (talk) 21:05, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Joe Burrow
Joe Burrow's stats need too be worked on. SsjGhost113 (talk) 23:21, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2022
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Include nicknames “Joe Brrrr” and “Joe Schiesty” in the overview of the article 8.2.72.114 (talk) 20:50, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Birth accuracy
Research his father's coaching history. According to wiki, his father was coaching at Ames High School when Joe was born. So which is correct, Joe's wiki or Jim's? 2604:2D80:6E81:3400:202A:315C:ACD2:53FA (talk) 21:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
He graduated Athens High School on 2015, not 2014
Incorrect year of HS graduation 2603:6010:C30C:84CA:3548:2205:F147:2CA (talk) 05:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2022
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Graduate of Athens High School in 2015. 2603:6010:C30C:84CA:3548:2205:F147:2CA (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kpgjhpjm 07:01, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Ohio State
He didn't go to Ohio State in Columbus, he went to Ohio University in Athens Ohio 12.27.33.58 (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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Joe Burrow also know as "Joe Shiesty", from the popular social media app Tiktok is a American Pro Football Player for the Bengals Avagadro hypothesis (talk) 02:14, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. casualdejekyll 02:21, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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Change In the 1940s, one of his grandmothers set a Mississippi state high school record...
to In the 1940s, his paternal grandmother set a Mississippi state high school record...
Reference: The Daily Advertiser, October 18, 2019, by Glenn Guilbeau "LSU's Burrow returns to Mississippi, where his dad, uncle, grandparents were star athletes" LFBrainard (talk) 17:40, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
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Joe Burrow is Bisexual Billy Joel 7324 (talk) 03:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:50, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2022
In 2019, when Joe Burrow won the Heisman, he was actually older than Lamar Jackson, who won the NFL MVP that year. Seems like a pretty cool fact that should be somewhere on his page. 38.103.100.66 (talk) 20:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Incorrect info
In pro career under 2022 season, it discusses Burrow’s performance against Atlanta saying it was the week after Pittsburgh (week 2.) The Atlanta game was actually week 7 Jmartin107 (talk) 05:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Drought
The Detroit Lions have never been to the Super Bowl. Is that not a longer drought? 2601:2C6:4A7F:BFA0:0:0:0:A634 (talk) 23:09, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- The Lions won a playoff game in 1991, and until recently the Bengals had not won a playoff game since 1990. Is that the drought you are referring to? Larry Hockett (Talk) 23:28, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Ohio University alum not OSU
He played football for OU not OSU as is listed here 2601:643:8000:BD0:18AF:1839:75E:89E7 (talk) 02:40, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Main Picture
The main picture for Joe Burrow is just him standing around. I feel that a pro football player should have a picture of them actually playing football and not just standing around. T66reyu3ehymc (talk) 00:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- That's something that's often been debated. If the player is playing with a helmet, you often don't see what they actually look like. It's pretty normal for NFL players to be represented by pictures of themselves without a helmet on. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2023
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2601:152:700:7330:5946:29C1:5D1F:F619 (talk) 23:18, 1 February 2023 (UTC) Joe burrow declined the 2022 pro bowl therefore it does not count
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:40, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Please try to be more clear when making an edit request. In this case, because I actually addressed this same issue on another page the other day, I know what you are asking. Replacements that don't play are not technically Pro Bowlers, only original selections that opt to not play are still Pro Bowlers, so I've removed it from the infobox. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Awards
Burrow won the 2022 Fedex Air Player of the Years at this years NFL honors. Wondering if this isn't an award we track? 173.177.134.165 (talk) 00:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's something we'll usually list under an awards section of the article but not as part of the infobox awards. I added some of Joe's achievements, including this one, under Joe Burrow#Records and achievements Hey man im josh (talk) 12:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Joe “Brrr”
I’m confused as to why it’s mentioned that he’s calm under pressure. There isn’t much evidence to support this claim and he hasn’t really done anything to garner this reputation. He only has 7 game-winning drives (the same as Blaine Gabbert and Teddy Bridgewater) and 5 4th quarter comebacks (the same as Tyrod Taylor and Mitch Trubisky). He’s no Dak Prescott but he’s certainly no Tom Brady either. This is just blatant glazing by his cornball fanbase. 2601:2C5:C181:BF80:9072:D5C4:8D0C:84BD (talk) 03:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- This isn't opinion on Wikipedia's end. It is by far more accurate to say that this information is included as analysis or commentary on his game by football writers, analysts, etc. All of these more subjective things (like calling him "calm under pressure"), as opposed to objective numbers, are presented as such (i.e. subjective opinion) and are literally referenced when they are brought up (except in the lede, where it isn't required). See these citations used at the end of the Player profile section: [1][2][3] Soulbust (talk) 23:11, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ Heifitz, Danny (February 11, 2022). "Stand and Deliver: How Joe Burrow and Matthew Stafford Survive—and Thrive—Under Pressure". The Ringer. Retrieved January 18, 2023.
- ^ Connolly, Oliver (January 31, 2022). "Unflappable. Unwavering. Unbelievable. Burrow is the NFL's new Joe Cool". The Guardian. Retrieved January 18, 2023.
- ^ Ogwude, Haadiza (January 21, 2023). "Where was Joe Burrow born? 7 facts about the star Bengals quarterback". Cincinnati Enquirer. Archived from the original on January 21, 2023. Retrieved January 23, 2023.
Place of birth?
Um, are you sure Joe Burrow was born in Ames, Iowa? Because where he went to high school says otherwise. He was born in Ames, Iowa, yet he went to school in Athens, Ohio. So, wouldn't that mean he was born in Athens, Ohio? Spinnerex01 (talk) 02:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Families move. Just because he was born one place doesn't mean he has to have gone to high school there. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Injured Reserve.
Oh my God Joe Burrow injured his calf during training camp his season is over! Quick! Edit the page so it says his roster status is Injured Reserve! Leatherface Vs. Cole Brookstone 2001 (talk) 22:21, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
2019 or 2020 Championship
You have it listed 2020 College Football Playoffs then 2019 CFP and then multiple times it flip flops. I get the season was 2019 and the game was played in 2020 but you should really lock down your dates better, especially years. 150.195.57.146 (talk) 14:11, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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