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Wikipedia 15

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Wikipedia is celebrating its 15th birthday on January 15, 2016. I have thought for a while that it would be neat to meet some local wikipedians. According to the wikipedians in Winnipeg or Wikipedians in Manitoba category you are one of us. I am contacting people in this category to say: Let's celebrate this milestone. If you know other wikipedians, please ask them to join in as well.

I am posting this to your talk page as a transclude so that any updates will show up automatically.

Hope to see you there! Tenbergen (talk) 04:46, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

One other Winnipeg Wikipedian showed up, in addition to a number of regular skullspace members. It was nice to actually talk to someone else who has worked with Mediawiki and actually "gets" transclusion. Cake was eaten! Tenbergen (talk) 06:37, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Aw, apparently I haven't logged in to Wikipedia in over 6 years and I totally missed this message and the event! I guessed I missed any 20 year celebration, too. Let me know if you end up doing a 25 year one. :) Clayton Rumley (talk) 22:52, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

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Happy St. Patrick's Day

Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk

A barnstar for your efforts

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WP:MOS

I need your help by fixing WP:MOS issues on Alexander Pushkin and Pale of Settlement, by following this one: MOS:OVERLINK and WP:RUSTRESS. 43.247.36.6 (talk) 00:15, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

I’ve removed the stress marks in the second article (not sure about the diacritic in the Hebrew transliteration).

Which sections specifically are overlooked?  —Michael Z. 00:21, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for removing stress marks in Russian words, also remove this flag from infobox per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. 43.247.36.6 (talk) 00:22, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Mzajac, this is a banned editor. Please do not proxy edit on their behalf.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:47, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Scope of the Russian category

I really think we should limit our Russian categories to people who are nationals of modern Russia. While there are also ethnic Russians, I do not think that a category should try to merge multiple things together. For this reason I do not think that the Russian Empire categories should be treated as subcategories of the Russian category. Recently people have decided to fight back against this. They have reverted statements that link articles on people who were nationals of the Russian Empire to Russia. They have attacked me for categorizing Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov as a composer from the Russian Empire, even though he was born in, lived in, and died in the Russian Empire. Another editor seems to suggest that we should not place in Russian Empire categories anyone who was alive when it ended in 1917. I think the following. Do you feel these are reasonable views. 1. The Russian Empire was a distinct nation. It had distinct nationals. We should categorize them as such. 2. We mainly categorize people by the nation thry lived in. 3. The Russian Empire was a country that was destroyed. Later the Soviet Union filled a similar space. After the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia has filled a smaller space. 4. The Russian Empire lasted less than 200 years, we should not subdivide its residents into categories by century, since we cannot get 3 by century categories. 4. The Russian categories should be limited to nationals of the current country of Russia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:47, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Jānis Ilsters

Jānis Ilsters was a resident of the Russian Empire all his life. The whole purpose of the People from the Russian Empire categories was to create a scheme where we could combine articles by the fact that the subjects were nationals of the Russian Empire. It was to avoid endless debates about a person's nationality. Yet my adding Ilsters to a category related to the Russian Empire has been reverted.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Sounds like you’re dealing with specific disputes that I’m not quite aware of.

I do agree that Russian-empire persons should not be lumped together with Russian-Federation persons as if these were one state. And I agree that there may be a lack of clear consensus on these questions that should be resolved in a coordinated fashion. I do see a general agreement with splitting the many “Russian and Soviet” categories which are likewise poor categorization for several reasons.

A key part of the solution is to categorize by country, and not only by state. Recalling that the Russian empire was definitely not a “nation,” as you termed it above, nor a nation-state, but a multinational empire. The broader concept of nation and nationality is not the legal one of which state someone is a citizen or subject of. In the empire, imperial identity was promoted and national identity suppressed (including Russian nationality to a degree, and certainly Belarusian and Ukrainian which were not allowed to exist as distinct from Russian). But the colonial era is over, and we do not categorize people as imperial persons, or at least we are still in the process of decolonization and trying not to (as the recognition of imperial Russia and the USSR as colonial has come late, for specific reasons in Western historiography).[1]

This is a trend I see in sources, often by clearly identifying their subjects’ place of birth, cultural heritage, place of activity, self-identification, and other details as are significant to their own identity. For example, look at Britannica’s bio of Gogol.[2] If you pay attention, you may notice it is largely about his close relationship with Russian literature, but nowhere does it refer to him as Russian (adj) or a Russian (n), because he was not Russian, but a member of the petty Ukrainian gentry from Ukraine.  —Michael Z. 15:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Notability of Ge with dot below

Hi Michael. Ge with dot below came across my radar while doing NPP. I see that you've nominated similar articles for deletion and wanted to apprise you of this article if you believe it's not notable. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:09, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. It is dubious that that is a separate letter belonging to an alphabet, but more likely just the use of a dot under a regular Cyrillic letter. But I don’t know Arabic, and I don’t know about Cyrillization of Arabic, so have no way of evaluating it as a valid subject.  —Michael Z. 04:12, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Michael. I'll bring it to the WikiProject Writing systems talk page. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Crash48 opened an arbitration case without informing you

Hi Michael, @Crash48 opened a case at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Ukrainian_language in which they accuse both you and me of POV-pushing, but it seems that they didn't inform you. I feel that the case will probably come to nothing because it doesn't meet the requirements, but since I have absolutely no experience with arbitration, I thought I should inform you. I'm not sure whether I should reply there or make better use of my time. Rsk6400 (talk) 14:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I just saw this and I see the request has been declined already. Will read it over so I’m aware of what’s up.  —Michael Z. 16:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I see there’s one decline vote, so far. The statements seem to have a fair view of the situation, and I will follow. Please inform me if any further action regarding this arises at ANI or elsewhere. Thanks for the head-up.  —Michael Z. 16:41, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

FYI: They started Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Ukrainian_language. I'll inform you as soon as anything happens there. Rsk6400 (talk) 07:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Spam article recreation

I looks like the spam articles from a former group AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A with acute (Cyrillic) you were the nom for are being recreated. Hope you are well, greetings from Los Angeles. I don't have experience with the topic, so I will leave it to you/others.  // Timothy :: talk  09:28, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Ugh. I have posted a request for advice at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Deleted article recreated.  —Michael Z. 14:40, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

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New development: "Ukrainian language"

Hi Michael, Crash48 took the issue to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Rsk6400. Rsk6400 (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

The Luhansk People's Republic and the Donetsk People's Republic ceased to exist, and need to be written in the past tense.

Hello.

The Luhansk People's Republic and the Donetsk People's Republic ceased to exist, when Russia annexed them in 2022. The introduction of both articles need to be written in the past tense, not only because their establishment, existence and absorption were de facto, but also because they ceased to exist from a Russian perspective, after Russia first officially recognized them in 2022 and then officially annexed them as regions of Russia later that year. As you stated, Russia dropped all pretense of their "independence", when it annexed them. Maybe new articles about the de facto "Russian" regions of Luhansk and Donetsk should be created, to reflect the current situation of these two regions, just like there is an article about the de facto Republic of Crimea of Russia, as opposed to the de jure Autonomous Republic of Crimea of Ukraine.

Multituberculata (talk) 16:54, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

@Multituberculata: from a Russian perspective, these republics continue to exist as Republics of Russia. There are quite a few of those, none of them independent. Crash48 (talk) 19:59, 29 December 2023 (UTC)