Talk:Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia
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I wrote my University dissertation on Elizabeth of Bohemia and believe that I can add quite a bit to this article. It would however become quite a major edit.
I propose the following:
- To add more information about Elizabeth's early life, i.e. her education, relationship with siblings and contemporary opinions.
- To add a section with details of Elizabeth's suitors, as the search for a suitable husband was important in her life
- To add further details regarding the marriage ceremony
- To add a section titled 'Electress Palatine' with information regarding the situation in the Palatine upon Elizabeth's arrival
- To expand the Queen of Bohemia section
- To expand the 'Exile' section to include information for the period 1620-1632, which is not covered in the article currently
I can provide suitable references for the information I propose to add to the article, and can considerably expand the current bibliography section.
I would appreciate any suggestions to the above proposal
Thanks Danielle — Preceding unsigned comment added by MI9to5 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
- Danielle - be bold, and please go right ahead. Especially if you are an authority on the subject (and it sounds like you are), you don't need permission from anyone else.
- There is anyway much of interest about her here: A Point of View: The Winter Queen of Bohemia, by Lisa Jardine, BBC Magazine, 24 February 2013. Onanoff (talk) 11:08, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. I am currently writing the proposed changes. I hope to have the re-write complete over the weekend and make the article live early next week :) This is my first contribution to Wikipedia so just getting to grips with all the formatting. Fingers crossed the revision is well received. Danielle MI9to5 (talk) 22:29, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
- Danielle, your outline looks impressive and I encourage you to improve the article with (cited) information. But you wrote "To add a section titled 'Electress Palatine' with information regarding the situation in the Palatine upon Elizabeth's arrival" <emphasis added>. I hope this was a typo and that your edits will reflect the fact that "Palatine" is an adjective used in lieu of a territorial description (e.g., "Elector Palatine", "Palatine rights", "Prince Palatine Rupert"), whereas "Palatinate" is a proper noun which refers to a region (Pfalz), e.g. "the Palatinate, Germany", "Rhenish Palatinate", "Electoral Palatinate", etc. FactStraight (talk) 05:31, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'm looking forward to reading it! Hchc2009 (talk) 07:43, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
I have finished writing the proposed changes and have edited the live article. This is my first edit on Wikipedia, so it was quite an ambitious one. I hope the changes are well received and I welcome feedback both positive and negative, as I hope to edit more articles over the coming months. Thanks MI9to5 (talk) 19:47, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Congratulations and thank you for expanding the article on behalf of everyone who will come here seeking information about the Winter Queen! I'll do some copy-editing, but I must point out that close paraphrasing should be avoided (something I too find hard to accomplish). Also, there is no need to quote phrases such as: "several mementoes of her early love of books exist". Surtsicna (talk) 20:43, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. I intend to give the article a fresh read through in a week or so, so there may be a few more changes on the way. I made a significant effort not to paraphrase but as you mention it can be hard to accomplish. I have tried to put what I have read into my own words and use quotations to highlight points and I'm sure that a good 75% of the article is my own words but hopefully when I take a fresh look I may be able to bring in more of my own words. I will also take a closer look at some of the quoted phrases that I have used and see if there is a need for the direct quotation. MI9to5 (talk) 23:39, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- Once again, excellent job, but much, much less than 25% of the article may be closely paraphrased or quoted. Anyway, I am sure you will fix this. Good luck! Surtsicna (talk) 10:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Wrong place of birth
I corrected the main article to be Falkland Palace rather than Dunfermline Palace, to agree with the info box on the right ref: www.britannica.com/biography/Elizabeth-Stuart 153.98.68.196 (talk) 13:30, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Englischer Bau
In German, adjectives are inflected. While "englischer Bau" is the citation form (used in isolation), the context in this article requires
- creating between 1610 and 1613 the "Englischen Bau" (i.e. English Building) for her
at least from a German viewpoint.
Helmut w.k. (talk) 14:34, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
"Electress?"
I wonder if a woman can actually be called an electress though she has nothing whatever to do with electing. She merely happens to be married to a guy who has the theoretical right to do some electing. In the case of Elizabeth, of course, her husband never did any electing either.--dunnhaupt (talk) 15:25, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Children in the info-box
are the children of king James and the siblings of Elizabeth Stuart. Adelfrank (talk) 14:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The sentence 'As the daughter of a reigning monarch, the hand of the young Elizabeth was seen as a very desirable prize' is ungrammatical. It was Elizabeth herself, not her hand, that was the daughter of a reigning monarch. Suggest you change to something like, 'Since Elizabeth was the daughter of a reigning monarch, her hand was seen as a very desirable prize.'
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