Talk:Joe Burrow

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2019

I would suggest that this line below be removed from the current bowl games subsection within Career History, and instead put something similar to his "SEC Champion (2019)" listing under Career highlights and awards. The Big Ten Championship is a conference championship, and not a bowl game.

• 2017 Big Ten Champion Maximusobligatus (talk) 04:04, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

• Removed CCG from bowls. Not gonna add it to career highlights because he was not the starter and the section is too long as it is. Ostealthy (talk) 15:29, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

full name is Joseph Lee Burrow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C4A:7880:A4:79E4:D3CE:1CA7:E7D9 (talk) 22:16, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

User: 2600:6C4A:7880:A4:79E4:D3CE:1CA7:E7D9 do you have a Reliable Source that confirms this? Ostealthy (talk) 02:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

His name is printed Joseph Lee Burrow on his LSU diploma

https://www.10tv.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image/public/2019/12/20/joeburrow-masterslsu.jpg?itok=ESdIE5V- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:280:775:F403:76AC:707C:DA1A (talk) 03:34, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Also printed Joseph Lee Burrow in his undergraduate commencement program from Ohio State University

https://registrar.osu.edu/staff/commence_bulletins/sp2018_commence.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:280:775:F403:76AC:707C:DA1A (talk • contribs)

Thanks, good enough for me. Ostealthy (talk) 14:33, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Joe Burrow. Congratulations it is a well done page. If I may offer one suggestion?

The opening paragraph has a large problem. It reads “Burrow won the Heisman Trophy for the 2019 season. Before transferring to LSU, Burrow began his collegiate career at Ohio State.”

It makes many of the internet speed readers think Joe Burrow won his Heisman at Ohio State.

My suggestion: Burrow began his collegiate career at Ohio State before transferring to LSU where he worked with their coaches to evolve into a premier record setting quarterback. Burrow won the Heisman trophy his second and final year at LSU. Cnoteriot (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Cnoteriot, I don't think there's much opportunity for confusion as the article is currently written. Your suggestion also uses an unencyclopedic tone. Ostealthy (talk) 04:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Does "In 2019, his second and final season with LSU" not make it clear? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Dissident93: the revision at the time of his comment did not include that phrase. Ostealthy (talk) 22:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

I agree the opening paragraph is worded awkwardly. Cam Newton's page is much better, reading: After starting his college football career as a backup to Tim Tebow at Florida, Newton transferred to Blinn College. He then joined Auburn, where he won the BCS National Championship and Heisman Trophy in 2010. I'm going to edit it to read something closer to that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcarne7 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2020

2605:A000:1110:48D8:88DD:93CF:EDB0:AB1A (talk) 20:19, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Joe burrow is from Athens,Ohio not Iowa.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 20:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Did you not check the source? Birthplace is not the same as hometown. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:12, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Add Lists of..

Consider addending the following to the main article:

See also

• List of NCAA Division I FBS career passing yards leaders
• List of NCAA Division I FBS career passing touchdowns leaders
• List of NCAA major college football yearly passing leaders
• List of NCAA major college football yearly total offense leaders

Since he had one of the greatest seasons in FBS history, it might be noteworthy to see where he ranks.72.174.71.134 (talk) 01:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

• These should be added into the article as prose instead, assuming they aren't already there. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 03:18, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Joe Burrow/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Bait30 (talk · contribs) 21:47, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

I'll take a look at this. My review should be complete sometime within the next 7 days.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 21:47, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• lead looks good.

Early years

• "The elder Burrow, whose last coaching position was defensive coordinator for the Ohio Bobcats for more than a decade, retired after the 2018 season in part to be able to see all of Joe's games in his final college season.": personally, this sentence might a little bit out of scope. (3b)
• "One day while visiting the office": unclear what "the office" is referring to. (1a)
• "the seven year old had a future": might be better to say "the seven year old Burrow had a future" (1a)
• "Jimmy Burrow": try to keep it consistent. either Jim Burrow or Jimmy Burrow, but not both. (1a)
  • Done. Lucky7jrk (talk) 15:16, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

College career

• looks good

Professional career

• "Burrow was one of 58 players invited to the draft, which was held virtually due to social distancing regulations arising from the COVID-19 pandemic, where he was selected first overall by the Cincinnati Bengals." The "which was held virtually...pandemic" part isn't necessary in my opinion. And I would specify which draft. (1a/3b)
• "He became the first rookie n NFL history": fix minor typo (1a)
• Statistics table: instead of making "Career" an external link, just cite it in the same style as the College statistics table. In other words, make it a proper citation. (2b)
  • Done. Lucky7jrk (talk) 15:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Joe played in 17 games in 2021, not 16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muthchri (talk • contribs) 16:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Personal life

• it's fine

Images

• All images are related with appropriate copyright tags.

 Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 23:29, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

References

The reference numbers come from this version of the article.

• 23: I'm not sure that Tiger Droppings can be considered a reliable source. I can't find any evidence on their website about editorial oversight per WP:QUESTIONABLE.
  • Replaced with reliable source. Lucky7jrk (talk) 15:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok, my review is done. I'll place this on hold for the standard 7 days.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 04:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Your changes look good. The article passes all the criteria now.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 06:13, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Mac Jones broke 2 records

Jones broke both Burrow's passer rating and his seasonal completion percentage.72.174.131.123 (talk) 04:15, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Joe Burrow

I need to know if you. Can get a message to Joe B.? 2603:6010:6F00:5577:7C88:D1E1:DD76:C38D (talk) 21:05, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Joe Burrow

Joe Burrow's stats need too be worked on. SsjGhost113 (talk) 23:21, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2022

Include nicknames “Joe Brrrr” and “Joe Schiesty” in the overview of the article 8.2.72.114 (talk) 20:50, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Birth accuracy

Research his father's coaching history. According to wiki, his father was coaching at Ames High School when Joe was born. So which is correct, Joe's wiki or Jim's? 2604:2D80:6E81:3400:202A:315C:ACD2:53FA (talk) 21:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

He graduated Athens High School on 2015, not 2014

Incorrect year of HS graduation 2603:6010:C30C:84CA:3548:2205:F147:2CA (talk) 05:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2022

Graduate of Athens High School in 2015. 2603:6010:C30C:84CA:3548:2205:F147:2CA (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kpgjhpjm 07:01, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Ohio State

He didn't go to Ohio State in Columbus, he went to Ohio University in Athens Ohio 12.27.33.58 (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2022

Joe Burrow also know as "Joe Shiesty", from the popular social media app Tiktok is a American Pro Football Player for the Bengals Avagadro hypothesis (talk) 02:14, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. casualdejekyll 02:21, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2022

Change In the 1940s, one of his grandmothers set a Mississippi state high school record...

to In the 1940s, his paternal grandmother set a Mississippi state high school record...

Reference: The Daily Advertiser, October 18, 2019, by Glenn Guilbeau "LSU's Burrow returns to Mississippi, where his dad, uncle, grandparents were star athletes" LFBrainard (talk) 17:40, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 16:39, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2022

Joe Burrow is Bisexual Billy Joel 7324 (talk) 03:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:50, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2022

In 2019, when Joe Burrow won the Heisman, he was actually older than Lamar Jackson, who won the NFL MVP that year. Seems like a pretty cool fact that should be somewhere on his page. 38.103.100.66 (talk) 20:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect info

In pro career under 2022 season, it discusses Burrow’s performance against Atlanta saying it was the week after Pittsburgh (week 2.) The Atlanta game was actually week 7 Jmartin107 (talk) 05:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Drought

The Detroit Lions have never been to the Super Bowl. Is that not a longer drought? 2601:2C6:4A7F:BFA0:0:0:0:A634 (talk) 23:09, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

The Lions won a playoff game in 1991, and until recently the Bengals had not won a playoff game since 1990. Is that the drought you are referring to? Larry Hockett (Talk) 23:28, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Ohio University alum not OSU

He played football for OU not OSU as is listed here 2601:643:8000:BD0:18AF:1839:75E:89E7 (talk) 02:40, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

He never went to OU in Athens. He went to Athens High School, in Athens. And OSU in Columbus 216.68.236.9 (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Main Picture

The main picture for Joe Burrow is just him standing around. I feel that a pro football player should have a picture of them actually playing football and not just standing around. T66reyu3ehymc (talk) 00:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

That's something that's often been debated. If the player is playing with a helmet, you often don't see what they actually look like. It's pretty normal for NFL players to be represented by pictures of themselves without a helmet on. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2023

2601:152:700:7330:5946:29C1:5D1F:F619 (talk) 23:18, 1 February 2023 (UTC) Joe burrow declined the 2022 pro bowl therefore it does not count

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:40, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Please try to be more clear when making an edit request. In this case, because I actually addressed this same issue on another page the other day, I know what you are asking. Replacements that don't play are not technically Pro Bowlers, only original selections that opt to not play are still Pro Bowlers, so I've removed it from the infobox. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Awards

Burrow won the 2022 Fedex Air Player of the Years at this years NFL honors. Wondering if this isn't an award we track? 173.177.134.165 (talk) 00:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

It's something we'll usually list under an awards section of the article but not as part of the infobox awards. I added some of Joe's achievements, including this one, under Joe Burrow#Records and achievements Hey man im josh (talk) 12:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Joe “Brrr”

I’m confused as to why it’s mentioned that he’s calm under pressure. There isn’t much evidence to support this claim and he hasn’t really done anything to garner this reputation. He only has 7 game-winning drives (the same as Blaine Gabbert and Teddy Bridgewater) and 5 4th quarter comebacks (the same as Tyrod Taylor and Mitch Trubisky). He’s no Dak Prescott but he’s certainly no Tom Brady either. This is just blatant glazing by his cornball fanbase. 2601:2C5:C181:BF80:9072:D5C4:8D0C:84BD (talk) 03:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

This isn't opinion on Wikipedia's end. It is by far more accurate to say that this information is included as analysis or commentary on his game by football writers, analysts, etc. All of these more subjective things (like calling him "calm under pressure"), as opposed to objective numbers, are presented as such (i.e. subjective opinion) and are literally referenced when they are brought up (except in the lede, where it isn't required). See these citations used at the end of the Player profile section: Soulbust (talk) 23:11, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

It may not be Wikipedia's quotes but whoever runs this page is curating quotes and opinions to fit their own personal view of him. Is the person who runs this page the president of his fan club? Player Profile should only consist of undeniable, objective and almost measurable characteristics. I don't think there's another football player's page that contains entire sections within their Player Profile dedicated to quoting opinion pieces about his "intangibles", how "cool and calm" he is on and off the field, and someone hyping up his Football IQ. In fact there's no evidence that his football IQ is any higher than any other QB...this has everything to do with his image. Patrick Mahomes is the most popular and probably the best player in the league and he has none of this corny stuff on his page...nobody does. It sounds more like a Legacy section...which he shouldn't have yet in his 4th season... 50.219.202.242 (talk) 01:38, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

References

Place of birth?

Um, are you sure Joe Burrow was born in Ames, Iowa? Because where he went to high school says otherwise. He was born in Ames, Iowa, yet he went to school in Athens, Ohio. So, wouldn't that mean he was born in Athens, Ohio? Spinnerex01 (talk) 02:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Families move. Just because he was born one place doesn't mean he has to have gone to high school there. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Injured Reserve.

Oh my God Joe Burrow injured his calf during training camp his season is over! Quick! Edit the page so it says his roster status is Injured Reserve! Leatherface Vs. Cole Brookstone 2001 (talk) 22:21, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

2019 or 2020 Championship

You have it listed 2020 College Football Playoffs then 2019 CFP and then multiple times it flip flops in the article. I get the season was 2019 and the game was played in 2020 but you should really lock down your dates better, especially years. 150.195.57.146 (talk) 14:11, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2023

He’s 27 not 26 2600:6C4A:147F:D3EB:BCC1:CA63:5457:C992 (talk) 00:46, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tollens (talk) 01:25, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

He won't be 27 until December 2023. RudolfRed (talk) 01:28, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2023

Joe Burrow does not hold the NFL record for career completion percentage. Jimmy Garoppolo currently holds that record. Remove that line from the list of NFL records and undo the purple shading from the NFL statistics box. 98.172.152.46 (talk) 00:43, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. From the source in the article, there is currently a three-way tie for this record. Is there something that shows differently? RudolfRed (talk) 01:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes the source that you already have listed for the record shows that he doesn’t hold the record 98.172.152.46 (talk) 02:59, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

It’s not a 3 way tie…the website only rounds to the nearest tenth. It’s listed in the correct order on the website and you can confirm it yourself with a calculator. Divide total completions over pass attempts. 98.172.152.46 (talk) 03:01, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

There’s a very specific reason that they list Jimmy G, Burrow, then Brees in that order even though they all round to 67.7. It should take 30 seconds to confirm it yourself 98.172.152.46 (talk) 03:04, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

You’re leaving false info up purposely allowing rounded numbers to make them equal. They’re not listed in that order for alphabetical reasons. Here’s another source where they’re listed in the same order and their career completions and attempts are listed so you can confirm that this is the proper order. Jimmy G is ranked number 1. https://www.footballdb.com/leaders/career-passing-completionpct 98.172.152.46 (talk) 04:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Here’s another source that includes total completions and total attempts and recognizes the number 1 guy as Jimmy G currently. This recognition needs to be transferred to Jimmy https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who-has-the-highest-career-pass-completion-percentage 98.172.152.46 (talk) 04:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Man the glazers that run this page were real quick to change this after Jimmy G played. Time to remove it again buddy, his completion % is 67.2 now. Who’s the guy who said “he’ll prob take the lead back again tomorrow”? I thought this was Wikipedia rather than his fan club page. 50.73.230.129 (talk) 03:35, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

chill bro damn HappyBoi3892 (talk) 03:51, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Put some respect on Goatoppolo! 50.73.230.129 (talk) 04:33, 26 September 2023 (UTC)