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The result was delete‎. —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Liga 1 U-16

2022 Liga 1 U-16 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Same reason as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 Liga 1 U-14. Quoting from there: "Football tournament for children supported by a couple of primary sources. Utterly insignificant within the football world, fails WP:SIGCOV". Geschichte (talk) 22:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. I see a consensus to delete this article. Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TheJournalish

TheJournalish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." Article dePRODded by article creator with reason "this journal is endorsed and ranked by the Ministry of Research Technology, and Higher Education of the Republic of Indonesia (as already cited). Why would that not demonstrate notability?" This apparently refers to current ref. 3, but that database (SINTA) does not appear to be very selective and therefore fails both NJournals and GNG. PROD reason still stands, hence: delete. Randykitty (talk) 21:13, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Indonesia publishes dozens of academic journals,[1] and for some reason the first one documented on Wikipedia gets PROD and AFD within days. Why is that? I can't see why the endorsement of the journal by the government would not establish notability. (See [2], the Director-General of Strengthening Research and Development, Ministry of Research Technology, and Higher Education of the Republic of Indonesia, Decree Number 105/M/KPT/2022.) The journal has been published for less than four years, but has more than 300 incoming citations according to Google Scholar.[3] Does this not clearly meet C2 of WP:JOURNALCRIT? -- Mikeblas (talk) 23:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I'm sorry, but 300 citations is rather pathetic, even for a new journal. Also, it appears that every journal published in Indonesia gets into Sinta, so that is not really a ringing endorsement. C2 is most certainly not met. As for why this got PRODded and then taken to AfD: I patrol all new articles on academic journals and if they appear not to be notable, I propose them for deletion. Nothing nefarious here. --Randykitty (talk) 06:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:JOURNALCRIT doesn't give a quantitative guideline, just that subjective one. -- Mikeblas (talk) 14:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's because different fields have different citation densities. But even n a low-citation density field is 300 citations after 4 years not very impressive and certainly not enough for C2.
  • Delete SINTA is not embraced by the government, it's just classification/accrediation system for Indonesian journals. Being indexed by SINTA is basically just meant "this journal exist" the same way school accrediation exist Nyanardsan (talk) 12:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: If I had to close this based on the discussion so far, it would be to delete. However, more discussion genuinely would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 02:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: No evidence for notability presented; fails both GNG/NJOURNALS Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 00:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to List of high commissioners of Australia to Brunei. — CactusWriter (talk) 22:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Lazarus Arnold

Luke Lazarus Arnold (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Appears to fail WP:GNG as the references are mostly poor quality passing mentions, and collectively these references don't constitute significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Uhooep (talk) 19:24, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of high commissioners of Australia to Brunei. WC gudang inspirasi (Read! Talk!) 11:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. — CactusWriter (talk) 22:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Liga 1 U-14

2022 Liga 1 U-14 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Football tournament for children supported by a couple of primary sources. Utterly insignificant within the football world, fails WP:SIGCOV. Geschichte (talk) 19:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Susetyo, Gatot (2022-09-22). "Juara Elite Pro Academy U-14, Debut Indah Dewa United di BRI Liga 1 2022 / 2023". bola.com (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  2. ^ Wulandari, Syifa Ayu (2022-09-20). "PERSIB Terpaksa Terhenti Di Semifinal EPA U-14 Usai Lawan Persis Solo". Sragen Update (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  3. ^ Samodra, Adi Surya (2022-11-21). "Libur Hampir 2 Bulan, Persis Solo U-14 Kembali Berlatih, Coach Winaryo Puji Antusiasme Pemain". Tribun Solo (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  4. ^ Yerimon, Petrus Manus Da' (2022-09-23). "Bantai Persis Solo di Partai Final, Dewa United Sabet Gelar Juara EPA U-14 2022". Indosport. Archived from the original on 2022-09-23. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  5. ^ "Barito Putera Siap Berlaga di EPA U-14". Klikkalsel (in Indonesian). 2022-09-06. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  6. ^ Hamdi, Tarmizi (2022-09-07). "Elite Pro Academy U-14 PSSI: Persikabo 1973 Telan Kekalahan Perdana". JPNN Jakarta (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  7. ^ "EPA Liga-1 U-14 2022, Bhayangkara FC Raih Juara 3 Kalahkan Persib". detiknews.id (in Indonesian). 2022-09-23. Archived from the original on 2022-12-05. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  8. ^ Prasetya, Mochamad Hary (2022-09-22). "Tumbangkan Persis Solo, Dewa United Juara Liga 1 EPA U-14 2022". Bolasport (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  9. ^ "PSSI Lengkapi Kompetisi Usia Muda, dengan Menggelar Elite Pro Academy U-14". PSSI (in Indonesian). 2022-09-04. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  10. ^ Prabowo, Ronald Seger (2022-09-12). "Hasil EPA U-14: Persis Solo dan PSIS Semarang Kompak Petik Kemenangan, Persija Jakarta Tertahan". Suara Surakarta (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  11. ^ Laeis, Zuhdiar (2022-09-24). "Dias Angga ingatkan pemain Dewa United U-14 tak cepat berpuas diri". Antara News (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  12. ^ Bram, Damianus (2022-09-23). "Persis Solo U-14 Jadi Runner-Up EPA 2022". Radar Solo (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  13. ^ Wiharto, Tri (2022-09-22). "Persis Solo Juara II Elite Pro Academy U-14 2022, Kalah dari Dewa United". Solopos (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  14. ^ "Laga Perdana Grup C Elite Pro Academy U-14 Telah Dimulai". PSSI (in Indonesian). 2022-09-06. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  15. ^ Adnan, Rais (2022-10-03). "Elite Pro Academy 2022: Jadwal, Hasil, dan Klasemen Lengkap". skor.id (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2024-05-25.
  16. ^ "Bhayangkara FC Juara Tiga EPA Liga-1 U-14 2022". Berita Jatim (in Indonesian). 2022-09-22. Retrieved 2024-05-25.
All looks rather routine to me. GiantSnowman 10:47, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"'Routine coverage' is not a disqualification for notability and may indeed be significant enough to surpass the general notability guideline." It was a national U-16 championship organised by the Indonesian Football Association. WC gudang inspirasi (Read! Talk!) 12:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article says U-14, not U16, and what you have quoted from is an essay only. WP:ROUTINE is an actual guideline which says "routine news coverage of such things as announcements are not sufficient basis for an article". GiantSnowman 14:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right, sorry, I meant to say U-14. WC gudang inspirasi (Read! Talk!) 00:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even having read those sources, I am still satisfied that enough coverage is at Elite Pro Academy that we don't need a separate article just to essentially act as a web host for the league tables and results for this under-14 competition. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The page is now being attempted stored in draftspace, which in light of this discussion seems more like an attempt to use Wikipedia as a web host. Geschichte (talk) 14:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Please add the sources you found in your participation in this discussion into the article so there is not a return trip to AFD. Liz Read! Talk! 03:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah Syafi'i

Abdullah Syafi'i (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article (blogspot) and found in BEFORE do not meet WP:SIRS addressing the subject directly and indepth.  // Timothy :: talk  04:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. WP:GNG is met. Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article (WP:NPOSSIBLE). Clicking on the Find sources: news and books links above shows that sustained coverage of Abdullah Syafi'i exists across many independent reliable sources. I have checked some of the non-English news sources using Google translate. Collectively they add up to significant coverage. The sustained coverage is also an indicator of notability (WP:SUSTAINED).-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that on 17 May 2024 WC gudang inspirasi redrafted the article using better sources.[4]-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Subject is notable even though most sources are not in English. Some sources I could find online were Tribunnews here states about how the subject was shot and martyred with his wife. Another here and so on here. This gives a preview that subject passes GNG. -Tumbuka Arch (talk) 09:38, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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