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Please advise Article on Mo's Restaurants

Aboutmovies,

thanks for your earlier feedback on Rogue Ales I just created an article on Mo's restaurants and it was up for about a nanosecond before being tagged as spam <wow>. Since you are also list on WP:WPOR as being a participant in Oregon business related articles I wondered if you had a moment to review this article (and advise on how to have it added to Oregon projects, I'm not sure if I just add the tag or if it needs to be done another way in fact I'm pretty confused all the way around).

thanks in advance (in Salem) Awotter 07:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help it was almost faster than the tag! I did not know about the + symbol thanks for the tip. I also added another Wiki Project tag as you advised. Will work on making the language more NPOV. I grew up an Army brat and first visited Mo's when my folks were in grad school at the U of O almost the same time when Mo's West opened at Otter Rock, they remain my favorite place to visit, so when I came across the info about Niemi researching the Rogue article I wanted to do a good article on them. BTW why are we both up so late (or early)? Awotter —Preceding comment was added at 08:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Article on Ronald D. Mehl

Hi Aboutmovies,

I'm a new Wikipedia editor and am confused about the notability issue on this article. One jounalistic reference is the Christian News Northwest article (included in links); the Benediction prayer to open a session of the US Senate as guest Chaplain was indicative of his notability (not sure that any other Oregonians have performed that duty recently); the dedication of the gymnasium at Life Pacific College; an award winning author in Christian literature, including a book used as the theme for the National Day of Prayer; and the info from International Foursquare identifying Ron as one of the prominent pastors that helped turn attendance around for the denomination as a whole (article link on current history of Foursquare). He is referenced in at least 3 other Wikipedia articles of which I am aware. I also researched other Pastors in Wikipedia, including J. Vernon McGee and Jack Hayford, which I believe are in the same category as Pastor Mehl. Believe me I'm not trying to be 'cantakerous' but am confused as to how to better address this. Is it a style issue since I didn't specifically reference the above info and just included in the links? Thanks for listening, I'm definitely hoping you can help me.JWLang 05:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help and guidance on this article! JWLang 20:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Legal expertise needed

Hi there, I just created a stub for United States v. Oregon, summarizing the case that acknowledged fishing rights for native Americans. But after doing so, I realized there are other cases by the same name, specifically a couple from 1935 listed on this page: List of United States Supreme Court cases, volume 295

Not knowing anything about the naming conventions of SC cases, I'm not sure how to proceed. Can you offer any insight?

By the way- I'm sorry I haven't participated in your collaborations yet, which I think are great idea. I've been very busy off-wiki. But I'll try to jump in soon! -Pete 03:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much for sorting through that! (And thanks to Katr too - since I'm sure you'll catch it here, and I'm runnin out the door…) -Pete 05:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Charles L. McNary

As you probably noticed, I started my gnomical work on Mr. McNary. I learned a bit about those Breyman girls--they sure did get around. I was thinking of mentioning that Jessie's sister Minnie married Rueben P. Boise, Jr., but maybe that's too off topic? One of these days the Breyman Bros. ought to have an article; they were real movers and shakers of their day. Oh, and I'm trying to figure out if McNary, Oregon had anything to do with this branch of the McNarys. I think not, but I haven't decided for sure. More tomorrow. Katr67 04:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

All done, as far as I can tell. Katr67 18:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, did you feel anything more was needed for GA? If so I'll see if I can dig anything up. Thanks again. Aboutmovies 18:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

It seemed like a couple things were unclear (like the two separate terms thing, despite it looking like he served continually from 1917 to whenever, which I took out of the lead) but my brain is also unclear so I'll take another look after lunch. I'm also dying to know what the heck the Salem Fruit Union was. Katr67 19:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll see about expanding upon the two seperate stints. As to the SFU, my guess was a trade group, maybe even a distant predecessor to NorPac. Aboutmovies 19:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

The clarification is good--I clarified it a bit further. I think it's just about ready to let the GA folk have at it. The things I see that could be expanded upon besides the fruit thing (BTW, the Salem History source says he was an orchardist (of filberts)) are the fact that he had to buy back his family's house (why did they lose it in the first place?) and I read that he ran out of money and that's why he had to leave Stanford--that's a good rags-to-riches sort of angle. In some places the dates are a little out of sequence--mostly the personal stuff--I think it makes sense that way, but it might be a quibble for the GA folks. You also might clarify the difference between public and political office in the beginning of the Politics section. (public vs. elected maybe?) Finally, I've got to wonder why he was in Florida when he died. For FA, go into a lot more detail about his Senate career--he was there forever, so there's lots of material. (Of Mark Hatifield: "He became the longest-serving U.S. senator from Oregon in 1993, surpassing the previous record set by Charles McNary." [1]) I read somewhere (I forget where, sorry) that he was considered the most important (influential/powerful/???) Senator out of Oregon in the first half of the 20th Century. I ran across this today too: "However, those who have served in the Senate are surely most proud of him as the man who stopped Franklin Delano Roosevelt from packing the Supreme Court in 1937. Since the Court was preventing him from enacting certain New Deal programs, FDR (with the aid of his legislative pointman, Senator Robinson) declared that he was going to appoint six new members to the bench who would tip the judicial scales in his direction. The Constitution dictates that the number of Justices be nine, and Roosevelt's action was thus clearly illegal. More central to the issue, however, is the fact that the powers of confirmation for any presidential appointee, including Supreme Court Justices, is an express privilege of the Senate. McNary's efforts to stop this unconstitutional action was a classic example of a check on Executive Branch, and more significantly a triumphant reinforcement of Senate authority."[2] good stuff. Good luck! Katr67 21:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. It's interesting to note that the Willkie-McNary ticket didn't carry Oregon... Katr67 21:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, almost! Katr67 01:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm missed the above earlier. Now that it is GA I'll see what can be added. Though the long quote seems dubious since here they don't talk about McNary at all and it is perfectly Constitutional for Congress to change the number of seats (its been done on numerous occasions). But congrats to you too! Aboutmovies 02:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks and identity

Hey, cool award, thanks. And I like your DYK medals...now I have to put in 4 more to get the gold!

FYI, I'm trying to change my wiki user ID. As I mentioned on Katr's talk page, a couple of people have "found" me based on my wiki-edits since they know my usual nom de guerre and it's a little weird. --Sprkee 22:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

No prob on the award. Go ahead and add the silver till you get the gold. Not sure about the ID thing, but when you become new feel free to join WPOR! We can always use fresh meat new members. Aboutmovies 00:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 8 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Noble Woods Park, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

---- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 02:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know...

On 8 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Isaac Homer Van Winkle , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 11:08, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Stinkin' badges

I'm too lazy to do DYKs (though I did nominate Vortex I for one) but I was wondering to which GAs you felt I've contributed significantly. If Scientizzle ever talks me into going for adminship, well, they look at stuff like that. Way back when, when I did an editor review, I'd innocently put a little FA star by New Carissa on my brag list because I'd helped copy edit it when it was up for FA review. Well, someone said that could be seen as taking undeserved credit for something and that the folks a Rfa would freak out about that. ::shrug:: So do you think I've earned any of those nifty green boxes? Don't worry, you won't hurt my feelings if you underrate copy editing like everybody else does. ;) BTW, OSC is steadily moving up the proofreading request list so I bet it gets done pretty soon. We should GA nom it after that. Katr67 04:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

At this point I would say Waller Hall, Katherine Ann Power, and Willamette University College of Law. On each of those you expended a fair amount of time in both copyediting and some review/additions. At least those from what I've been involved with, I don't know if you worked on others. Good to hear about OSC. I know you've worked on McNary, let me know when you are done so we can nom that too. Aboutmovies 04:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know...

On 9 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Otto Richard Skopil, Jr., which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 17:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the award. My first, no less. Glad to collaborate on articles about the Greatest State in the Union™. Where Anne hath a will, Anne Hathaway. 06:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

American Advertising Museum

On 11 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article American Advertising Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--++Lar: t/c 23:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

On September 13, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Theodore Thurston Geer, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Eugene (Amtrak station) coordinates

I'm crap at coords if I can't copy them from PSU/USPS. Do you think you could improve ones for Eugene Depot? They're currently off to the right somewhere, unlike Eugene itself... Katr67 16:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. The easiest way to get them is to use WikiMapia. Zoom in, put the white + that shows the center of the map on the location, then the URL will show the exact coordinates. If you then need to convert to 45'34"4 W, search for the coordinates at Google Map and it will display both in a callout box. Someday I'll mention that we should have coordinates where ever possible, since then the locations will show up in Google Earth, which gives more exposure to the articles, and hopefully more minons participants. Aboutmovies 17:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Yeah, it's pretty cool to be looking around Google earth and see the dots that mark articles that I've we've written. Where are all those darn minions, anyway? Maybe we need to elect one of us Evil Overlord and they would materialize... Katr67 17:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

J. L. Parrish

I have a feeling you're fixing to write an article on him. I've got two related photos uploaded to commons Image:Parrish.JPG and Image:ParrishHouse.JPG. Please improve them as you see fit, it's hard to tell how they really look with my crappy monitor. Katr67 16:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm going to try and get Sam Parker and Parrish knocked out today/tomorrow. Thanks for the pics, I'll see what fits, with a link to any that don't. I think I have a free portrait of both too. Aboutmovies 17:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

FYI

I've suggested a rename of the Gray Sails the Columbia River article here. VanTucky ^Talk 02:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Coincidence

Thanks for the tip about signing.

p.s., wife is a Hillsboro and OSU grad; your truly is a Willamette grad in 1980.
--chrerick 07:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thomas Milton Gatch

Hello. I've nominated the Thomas Milton Gatch article, which you created, to appear on the DYK column of the Main Page. You may see the hook at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on September 13, where you may improve it, if you wish. I think it may even be GA material... :-) Keep up the good work! Regards, Agüeybaná 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Oregon DYK userboxes

I just stumbled upon your user page and saw your Oregon related DYK contribs userboxes. At first I thought it was just a mistake that there were dupes but then I saw there was no param for the number of contribs... are you using 2 boxes just to work around limitations in the template? If not, I think the userbox should only appear once. Cheers, Jeremyb 04:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Pics

Got a few of Smelt Sands State Recreation Site, and the North Fork of the Yachats Bridge and Fisher School Bridge (both NRHP), also found a geocache by accident, so I got a couple pics of that, just for fun. Katr67 19:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Good. No frogs? Anyway, looks like you'll be busy with those red links for awhile. Back to Parrish. Aboutmovies 19:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

We considered going to one of those kitschy beach shops and snapping a photo of some plastic frog and saying it was a frog we spotted in Oregon, but we didn't spend much time in civilization. I did get a plastic snake from the geocache, but he's striped, not spotted. Katr67 19:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

On 18 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Milton Gatch, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 22:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

On September 20, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Samuel Parker (Oregon politician), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Awarded to Aboutmovies for contributions to Oregon articles.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Oregon Islands National Wildlife Refuge

Do you think the stub tag can come off Oregon Islands National Wildlife Refuge? It seems like it is beyond WP:STUB status. —EncMstr 02:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Yah, its a solid start now. In the future, if you plan on a DYK I'd leave the stub tags off until after it passes. Some of those in charge at DYK go by the tag instead of what the article actually is. But great job, it looks like with your 2, Sprkee (or Spanish Sprkee), and mine Oregon will be dominating DYK this week. Aboutmovies 02:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Lee Mission Cemetery denizens

I'll look into Erastus. The Beers gravestone has the look of being erected long after his death, probably by the DAR, similar to the marker of George Gay near Hopewell. The Lees' stones are similar (I'll upload them onto commons in a few minutes)--you can see where the original ones were broken off. Beers, Parrish and the Lees are all together in the absurdly named "Diamond Square" section of the cemetery. The DAR might not have known what they were talking about. Yet another reason not to join. (I actually qualify.) I also would have no idea how to act at a cotillion... I'll see if I can find out anything. About Beers, not cotillions. Katr67 03:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Columbia Sportswear: Chairwoman

I apologize, I cited the wrong link in my edit.

Below is an excerpt of 'One Tough Mother' by Gert Boyle herself from Google Books (page 157). It highlights her dislike for the term 'chairwoman' and serves as the company 'chairman'.

http://books.google.com/books?id=QIE1VOXlrhwC&pg=PA157&vq=chairwoman&dq=gert+boyle&sig=MeXWdVUskeJbYOq8xN_r-UJq2Ak

Please consider revising the article based upon this.

Mattfblue 04:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If the article was Gert Boyle, no problem. But the article is the company, and the company says chairwoman. If she was so against the title she could have her web people change the site, afterall she is in charge, thus there seems to be implicit approval of chairwoman in that instance. But the company's 10Q financial statement says chairman. So it seems the company doesn't even know. How about we go with the gender netrual "chairperson" until Gert fires the web people for getting it wrong? Aboutmovies 06:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 21 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Josiah Lamberson Parrish, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 13:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Congrats. Another 15 minutes of fame for one of our old dead guys. Hey you know how to contest a copyright tag, correct? Can you point me to the relevant guideline? I ran across this Image:Frederick Weyerhaeuser.jpg and I kinda have my doubts about the attribution. Katr67 23:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

We're doing good this month for WPOR. For copyvio, see the Instructions part here, and use the one for images. I'd be sure to note that it is doubtful a new image was created for someone who has been dead for almost 100 years. Aboutmovies 20:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Shucks!

Thanks for the award! It was a good collaboration, for sure; glad I could help. Hope we can get Oregon spruced up a bit too! I like the photo idea, but my camera's busted. -Pete 07:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Jessica Page Morrell

Hey, I have to run, can you explain notability (and cleanup) in that excellent way you do to that user? Thanks. Katr67 23:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. Aboutmovies 23:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Katr67 07:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Mike Richardson (publisher)

3RR alert on aisle three... Katr67 20:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hillsboro Chamber of Commerce

Redlinked in Oregon. Notable? Or can I unlink it? Katr67 20:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Unlink for now, I doubt its notable. Aboutmovies 23:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

photo of Willamette Valley.

maybe too surreal

any chance you could photo shop that photo a little to lighten it up some. I think I would help it a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvannatta (talk • contribs) 03:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

ps. lightning up the shadows and mid tones and adding some color saturation makes it a very dramatic photo---likely simlar to what you saw..... I downloaded it and gently cooked it, but can't figure out the license approach to reupload it to show you.Rvannatta 04:10, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Your revised version now closely tracks what I did. No point in uploading mine---you did a good tweek on it. Digital cameras seem to have a lot of trouble making landscapes too dark.Rvannatta 06:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I may have overdone it but take a look at this:Rvannatta 07:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd say a little too bright. Makes it look a little like a nuclear bomb went off. Aboutmovies 15:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I was cruzin your talk page, came across this, thought I could offer a little help. Use it as you like, but I uploaded an edit. The original was a little dark but better under-exposed than over-exposed. If you think it's over the top no need to use it. -Fcb981^{(talk:contribs)} 19:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks better, I swapped the images on the article. Aboutmovies 20:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Coveted WPORE barnstar-worthy?

Check this out. Katr67 00:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Go for it. Dang, that's a lot of redlinks at the bottom. Aboutmovies 00:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Old Dead Schools. Who knew? Katr67 01:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Incommunicado

Howard W. Robertson--should we try mediation? Maybe a third party can get him/her to talk. Those not paying attention might think it's merely a content dispute and an Afd is going to look awfully POINTy, unfortunately. Katr67 07:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 1 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Levi Scott (pioneer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, D_arkF_alls ^talk 06:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

ArticleHistory error category

FYI, your recent edit popped up in the article history error category,[3] please see the instructions at {{articlehistory}}. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:ORCapPioneer.JPG

This is just crying out to be turned into a WPORE related warning template or something. Katr67 04:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's the image I used for the WPOR award, but maybe we can add some red eyes and make it look like he's hold a baseball bat instead of a tarp? Aboutmovies 05:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, you're right. But there's something so much more ominous about the uncropped version. His eyes are following me around the room.... Katr67 05:57, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Step away from brownies, you've had enough. Aboutmovies 05:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It's only sleep-dep, I swear... Katr67 06:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, this is exactly what we need:

File:ORCapPioneer.JPGThis user keeps track of
changes to WikiProject Oregon articles. Don't mess with the Big Gold Dude.

Needs cropping and scary eyes would be a nice touch... BTW, summary of West Union: A bunch of Baptists band together in the harsh and lonely wilderness, name town after their union. More news at eleven. Katr67 19:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

But was it nestled?! Aboutmovies 19:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It is cozily nestled on the edge of the vibrant city of Beaverton. I hope you will soon be writing an article that will showcase this beautiful community which boasts a quaint historic Baptist church accompanied by a historic cemetery teeming with famous Old Dead Guys^TM as well as easy access to all the natural wonders that Oregon has to offer. Katr67 23:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Dahlias

Hey, that's a great shot of the dahlias! -Pete 06:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

On 2 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hondo Dog Park, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 15:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Cave Junction

I added Cave Junction, Oregon to Wikipedia:Good article nominations. You had some critiques for it the other day, and I'm wondering if you'd like to review it? - Peregrine Fisher 19:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 4 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article NW Natural, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

---- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Articles by size list

Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Dinosaurs/dinosaur articles by size. Would it be helpful to set up something like this for WP:ORE? I was checking out their project because someone at WP:KANSAS mentioned that they "churn out FAs like clockwork..." Katr67 18:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we can ask the bot owner who did theirs to make us a list like that. Re:OSC--I'll see if I can manage a couple stubs to fix the redlinks that are still in there and add a bit more about the wings. I'm tired though--I rode in my first century bike ride yesterday--so maybe not until tomorrow. I hate discovering new muscle groups... Katr67 18:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Cool. I'm sure it will be awhile before much action on OSC. Bengay and Icyhot. Aboutmovies 18:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Do you have an article title for reference 13 at Oregon State Capitol? Without it it gives an error message. Thanks! Katr67 18:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5

The Biography WikiProject Newsletter Volume IV, no. 4 - September 2007
Project News The three-month long Summer Assessment Drive, organized by Psychless, was a huge success! It ran from June 1 – September 1, and reduced the backlog of unassessed articles from 113,385 to 56,237. In all, over 100,000 articles were assessed. Over 60 people contributed in some way. A barnstar has been created for exceptional work on Wikipedia biographies and for assisting the project. The Biography Barnstar is listed with the other WikiProject awards and can be awarded easily with a template. See the template page for more details. Member News Congratulations to the editors who worked on the newest featured biographies: Augustus; William Shakespeare; Adriaen van der Donck; Alfred Russel Wallace; Alison Krauss; Anne Frank; Anne of Denmark; Asser; Bart King; Bill O'Reilly; Bobby Robson; Bradley Joseph; CM Punk; Ceawlin of Wessex; Colley Cibber; Cædwalla of Wessex; Dominik Hašek; Elizabeth Needham; Frank Macfarlane Burnet; Georg Cantor; Gregory of Nazianzus; Gunnhild Mother of Kings; Gwen Stefani; Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosebery; Harriet Arbuthnot; Harry S. Truman; Henry, Bishop of Uppsala; Héctor Lavoe; Ine of Wessex; Ion Heliade Rădulescu; Jack Sheppard; Jackie Chan; Jay Chou; John Martin Scripps; John Mayer; Joseph Francis Shea; Joshua A. Norton; Kate Bush; Kazi Nazrul Islam; Kevin Pietersen; Martin Brodeur; Mary Martha Sherwood; Mary of Teck; Maximus the Confessor; Miranda Otto; Muhammad Ali Jinnah; P. K. van der Byl; Penda of Mercia; Pham Ngoc Thao; Rabindranath Tagore; Ramón Emeterio Betances; Red Barn Murder; Richard Hakluyt; Richard Hawes; Robert Garran; Roman Vishniac; Ronald Niel Stuart; Ronald Reagan; Roy Welensky; Rudolph Cartier; Samuel Adams; Samuel Beckett; Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough; Sarah Trimmer; Sargon of Akkad; Shen Kuo; Sophie Blanchard; Stereolab; Sydney Newman; Sylvanus Morley; Tim Duncan; Timeline of Mary Wollstonecraft; Uncle Tupelo; Waisale Serevi; Wallis, Duchess of Windsor; Walter Model; William Bruce; William Goebel; Yagan; Zhou Tong; Æthelbald of Mercia; Æthelbald of Mercia New Members Congratulations to our 225 new members	From the Editors The newsletter is back! Many things have gone on during the past few months, but many things have not. While the assessment drive helped revitalize the assessment department of the project, many other departments have received no attention. Most notably: peer review and our "workgroups". A day long IRC meeting has been planned for October 13th, with the major focus being which areas of the project are "dead", what should our goals be as a project, and how to "revive" the dead areas of our project. Contribute to the discussion on the the new channel (see below) We decided to deliver this newsletter to all project members this month but only those with their names down here will get it delivered in the future. This is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned or post news on the next issue's talk page New irc channel Lastly, a new WikiProject Biography channel has been set up on the freenode network: #wikipedia-en-bio Our thanks to Phoenix 15 for setting it up. Contributors to this Issue Psychless (talk · contribs) Phoenix 15 (talk · contribs)
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Did you know

On 8 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hillsboro Civic Center, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 10:22, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Barlow Road

Thanks for the reassessment of Barlow Road. Any particular reason you removed my last addition to the talk page? —EncMstr 18:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Chief Justices of the Oregon Supreme Court

I don't necessarily endorse splitting it off, but as long as it was, I figured I would try to clean up the mess--thanks for finishing up. So is that part of GA criteria to remove lists from articles? If not, I agree the split probably wasn't needed. Katr67 20:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know it is not in the critera, just misguided personal preference. Along with moving the pictures around, which the preference for images is not all on the right, the editor only made cosmetic changes. The main problem with splitting off the list is that it could easily be AFD'd. At some point I even thought of making a seperate Oregon Supreme Court Chief Justice article that would have the list, but I didn't see enough content to justify a seperate article. This whole new GA review is odd, I mean the captiol was reviewed a week after it passed. Odd, but oh well. Aboutmovies 20:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

user and talk page configuration.

I have no issues with doing what you suggested if I can just figure out what it is I should do. I'm sort of a newbie here, and still mystified as to how some of these things work.Rvannatta 21:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

later---thanks---I see you are hanging around WU.---- been there done that --- lawschool class of '70Rvannatta 04:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

WU school of medicine

I beat up on your 'school of medicine' page for WU which I think should be "College of Medicine" see talk page comments.Rvannatta 06:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

On 11 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hillsboro Police Department, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 12:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Help Please

Hey, could you help me with a fair use rational for Image:Ep1002oregonstatepolice.jpg. I am no good when it comes to copyright stuff. Thanks. Tiptoety 23:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Tiptoety 18:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for adding the Portland Police Bureau article to WikiOregon COTW, i think this will greatly help improve it. I appreciate you accepting my request. Thank you, Tiptoety 18:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

Did you know? was updated. On 17 October, 2007, a fact from the article Michael Francke , which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 ^talk 15:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Neil Goldschmidt

Hi, I noticed your comments on the talk page about Neil Goldschmidt. I'd encourage you to stay invovled in the discussion if you have time as you see to have a pretty balanced opinion. The anon ip is currently unwilling to discuss changes before asking them, which is frustrating at best. Whoever the anon ip is, seems deadset on inserting their own POV into the article. Anyway, I'd appreciate if you'd take a look at what's going on. Davidpdx 01:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now I find out that Davidpdx was recruiting people to the Neil Goldschmidt page. Why am I not shocked? 71.111.129.39 04:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to move this to userspace

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Awarded for your much-appreciated vandalfight on The Vancouver Voice. Keep up the good work! VanTucky Talk 19:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. This guy, who's worked from multiple IPs, comes around periodically to place this "Zorgons" crap on Vancouver, Washington. Thanks again, VanTucky ^Talk 19:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Digimarc edit

I'm a little confused why you added the notability box to the Digimarc Corporation article. The company controls over 60% of the US drivers license market. That seems pretty notable to me. 28bytes 05:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I hope you didn't take offense at my question. I am indeed familiar with the notability guidelines. I'm sorry if you took it personally that I had a question about your edit. It just seemed odd to me that, in a week where the company is getting a great deal of press coverage, you put a notability box on the article instead of linking to the coverage. 28bytes 16:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

My mistake, you are correct, you tagged it in September, not October. If you still feel that the company's not notable, you just keep that box right on there. Sorry to have wasted your precious time with my stupid questions. 28bytes 18:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

George P. Putnam

I added some stuff to Putnam since you assessed it. He was quite the mover and shaker in Oregon for a few years. Do you think he deserves a "mid"? I'm not invested either way--I never heard of the dude before, except in connection with that homewrecker, Amelia Earhart... BTW, I thought about sending you a WikiCookie, or something slightly less cheesy, but instead I'll just say: thanks for dealing with the hundreds of road articles I tagged and don't let the whomevers ruin to your wikimood. Cheers! Katr67 22:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Bumped it up, the new Oregon involved info was enough for mid. Before it came accross as he was in Oregon for a little while, next topic. On a similar note, its almost B class too if you wanted to do some more work on it. Aboutmovies 22:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I've copy-edited and expanded Rose Quarter...

...take a look. --EngineerScotty 23:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

St. Helens School District

Look, I respect your answer, and I'm sorry for whatever I did in that talkpage that was wrong. I just think that everybody has a right to contribute, but what if they mess something up that was completely relevant? What if they change it to something completely wrong? I want to know if they did, but I don't know how except to keep the page on my watchlist, and that doesn't help if I don't check the page on a regular basis. Can you check back with me and tell me how?

Abluescarab 03:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

St. Helens School District 2

Thanks for the advice, and I wanted to ask if you could visit the talk page of St. Helens School District and tell me if what I wrote follows the guidlines. Thanks again.

Abluescarab 03:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Oregon

Hey, I was wondering if it was alright if I join Wikipedia: WikiProject Oregon and if so, how do I join? Someone told me just to edit the page and substitute my name in another section I copied from someone else. Do I do that with the Wikiproject Oregon page?

Abluescarab 03:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

User Page and Creating Pages

This may still seem rude to some people, but are we allowed to say what articles we started on our user page without breaking the Wikipedia guidelines?

Abluescarab 04:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

COTW award

Hey, thank you very much for the COTW award for Fort Vancouver National Historic Site. However, I would argue that EngineerScotty made some much more substantive contributions than I did, and was there early showing leadership in how the article should develop and showing real buy-in to the larger COTW effort. All I did, really, was add some nice visuals late in the game, and mostly on parts relating to Washington rather than Oregon. Unless you object, I would like to forward the award to the much more deserving EngineerScotty. Your thoughts? -Ipoellet 19:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Charles L. McNary nomination

I just placed the GA nom on hold for a minor improvement. In the future, feel welcome to inform me of any WikiProject Oregon articles that are GA nominations if you like. As long as I haven't contributed before the nom, I am happy to keep WPOR articles from having to wait a month or more to get reviewed. I also try and check the WikiProject Talk, but sometimes I miss a mention of a nomination. Happy editing, VanTucky ^Talk 00:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, you needn't worry about preferential treatment. Just read my review of Cave Junction, Oregon :) But I understand where you're coming from, and thanks for getting back to me. VanTucky ^Talk 02:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Hare Field, was selected for DYK!

On November 2, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hare Field, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 00:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Please don't feed the troll

I think we have an honest-to-goodness troll. Don't feed. That is all. Katr67 10:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Snowed under

Hey there, I'm impossibly beseiged by real life work right now, and can't do as thorough a reading of Hillsboro, Oregon as I wanted to. Sorry about that. I did leave some brief comments there, I hope they're helpful.

Also, Columbia River was just reviewed for GA, and the reviewer made some excellent observations. Unfortunately it looks like a pretty big job to meet all the demands before the GA hold expires. I wonder if you might consider making that a COTW next week. I know it's a last minute request, so if you have other plans that's fine of course, but if you're able to fit it in I think it would be a good one. -Pete 21:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm thinking it might be better to contact a Canadian or two (Pfly I think) to have them try to take care of the Canadian part. It's probably easier for them resource and general knowledge wise toake care of that. I was going to try to work on it as well. Aboutmovies 22:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it would make sense to recruit some Canucks, and possibly reach out to the Native Americans wikiproject too. Good idea. I'll make a note on those talk pages. -Pete 00:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Internal Section Links

How do I add a link to a section in my user page? I would like to add a link in a section to another section on the same page, but it doesn't work. Is there a way to do this?

Abluescarab 23:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

RE: Admin

Thank you for discussing this with me, I would first like to inform you that this comment was not specifically directed at you but the many editors who feel the same way as you. Second, my poor use of words has led you astray, I do not think cadets are just police officers minus the gun, and I will admit it was a poor use of words. A Police cadet is a sworn member of the Law Enforcement Community, thought limited to what they can and can not do. My view of what a police Cadet is has not changed sense this RfA, and will never change as it is my career and i know what i can and can not do, I understand the great ethical and honesty requirements of working as a police officer and a cadet, so to answer your question, no i do not still think cadets are cops without guns, cause that is not what i thought to begin with, i know what i am. I beleive i have also owned up to many mistakes here on wikipedia and in real life, and have done so multiple times through out my RfA. Though we may differ on our views, i still thank you for your comment, Cheers! Tiptoety 01:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Another RfA Spaming

Thank you for constructive criticism in my recent RFA which did not pass at (18/27/10). I will be sure to improve my editing skills and wait until someone nominates me next time.I have taken your comments especially to heart and hope that i can improve based upon them, i know that this experience has made me a better wikipedia! Thank you for you comments! Tiptoety 00:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		In recognition of Aboutmovies' work on Oregon topics! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

On November 8, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Elijah White, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

On November 9, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thomas R. Cornelius, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Triple crown

I, Durova am pleased to award Aboutmovies the triple crown in recognition of outstanding contributions to Wikipedia's coverage of Oregon. Thank you for your generous time and effort. Durova^Charge! 03:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Your Majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow this triple crown. Please let me know when your next article passes FAC and I'll upgrade this to the imperial triple crown jewels. Best wishes, Durova^Charge! 03:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Why thank you. I'm looking forward to using my power for evil and fun! Aboutmovies 03:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Congrats. A little gnome thought you might like this. ;) Katr67 03:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Well deserved. Wow, you're gettin' a heapin helpin of love today, eh? Seriously though, I am very impressed with your work recently, especially on the COTW. That has been a huge success, and I hope we can keep it rolling! -Pete 06:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It's odd out here in Wikiland. Last week was trying, this week less so (though completly stress free if a certain AFD was not in progress). I'm hoping we can keep up the level, and we might even come close to my goal of 10 GA & 10 FA by the end of the year! Now if we can just get Katr to start a nice DYK type article, then that will make three. Pete, aren't you about there too with the cap passing FA?

PS, with the COI, unfortunatly I don't think the recepient cares. Aboutmovies 06:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice to know you felt my contributions to the OSC were that helpful, I feel like I played more of a supporting role than anything else. I don't think the Columbia will be hitting GA anytime soon, too much work to be done. (Not that that's a bad thing, I think ultimately the article will be a lot better due to the feedback.) And I haven't cracked the DYK world yet, I tend to edit so incrementally that I don't often think of it. But when I expand George W. Joseph I'll think about it, I think significant expansions qualify in addition to article creation (?)

By the way, you should really try to get to a WikiWednesday sometime. They're going really well, and I'd love to see more crossover with COTW. -Pete 07:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Scorpio--that explains a lot

Happy happy! But if you were kidding in that edit summary, I take it back. Katr67 03:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

It's my actual B-day, and you forget to use the term "Your Highness". Not that I'm letting it go to my head or anything. Aboutmovies 03:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops. Here are some curtsies and genuflections to go with the cake, Your Excellency. FYI, I just nommed EngineerScotty too, so let me know when the duel is so I can bring the popcorn. Katr67 03:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

That's right, it's mine and Scotty's world, everyone else is just livin' in it! And Let them eat cake! Aboutmovies 03:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I'll second that! Looks like I'm sneaking in just under the wire, too. Happy birthday! Pete 06:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

How many people have birthdays around now? Mine is Saturday.... —EncMstr 08:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thomas R. Cornelius

Just wanted to let you know that I really liked this article and have uploaded it to Veropedia here. If you have any other articles that you think should be uploaded there, please let me know, either on my talk page or by sending an email to us from the Contact link on our main page. Thanks. Danny 00:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Coi

A most excellent point, sir. -Pete 06:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Nike Vandalism

Thanks for the comment on our user talk page - I'm a student at the school in question, and staff have already dealt with it - in fact, he's in about 5th grade

Alexlmuller 14:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Formatting Keeley Dorsey: Second Nomination

What is your and Katr's interest in this article? Please explain. The first nomination was close and too close to the death event. It stands to reason the article would not survive a second nomination, because Wikipedia is not a memorial and this article is not sufficiently sourced.

So, why not help with the formatting, if you have the best interests of fairness here?Ryoung122 07:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

As they say, you attract more flies with sugar than vinegar. Start behaving properly and people will be less likely to return the attacks. Not to mention the AFD will fail, you really need to read WP:BIO. Notability is not that the person scored 1 touchdown, it is they are worthy of note, and that is shown by substantial coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the source. The death there made national news, thus there will be plenty of sources to back up the notability claim. Same thing with your now desire to delete the Wood article, there are multiple, reliable sources that are independent of the subject, and more can be added if need be (what is it three newspapers and a book?). You really need to seperate the real world from Wikipedia when it comes to what notability is defined as. Wikipedia has a different standard.

As to fairness, will you appologize and retract incorrect accusations that you have made against several editors? When you do that, then, and only then can you talk about the "interests of fairness" in regards to anything related to you on Wikipedia. Aboutmovies 08:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Comment: You misspelled 'apologize.' And I disagree with your assertion that a second AFD would fail. First off, Wikipedia is WP:NOT#MEMORIAL. Second, the subject is not notable 'aside from coverage of his death' which is, by definition, discountable.

In regards to Mary Ramsey Wood, it could easily be argued that the subject is a LOCALFAME person and doesn't meet the criteria for notability.

In regards to apologies, I'm still waiting for one from you regarding the Mary Ramsey Wood case, where I turned out to be correct. I also find it a 'personal vendetta' for you to chime in on my own AFD, which, though it appears to be going down this 'election cycle', I'm still only 33 and circumstances may change.

In the Keeley Dorsey dispute, I did not ask you to help; there are plenty of other editors out there. However, you chose, once again, to oppose a move I made. Not surprising.

In regards to Mary Ramsey Wood:

Look, ok, the woman was 97 or 98, her only 'claim to fame' turned out not to be true. Long-forgotten and in only local newspapers or regional books, there is a legitimate reason to believe that the article might not survive an AFD. Ryoung122 09:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Robert: It's not "your" article, it's Wikipedia's article about you. If you can keep that in mind, I think that will help matters considerably. Regarding your threat- if you truly think the Wood article shouldn't be here, and you're not just trying to make a point, just nominate it, make your case, see where the chips fall. Nobody's stopping you. -Pete 16:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

RY, you didn't ask for help? Really? So what exactly is "So, why not help with the formatting" then? It has the word help in it, and its on my talk page. As to Dorsey, the coverage is not a memorial, it is about what the media believed to be a worthy topic for coverage. Again, Wikipedia does not equal the real world. If a topic is covered by reliable sources, at a certain depth, then they are notable for Wikipedia purposes and Dorsey passes that test. But, feel free to nominate it again, along with the Wood. But again, you still don't get what every editor that was involved with the Wood article gets except you (hint, hint, you might want to think about that) is that it was not how old she was (for the umpteenth time I don't care how old she was), but the method in which the information you wanted to add was presented in the article. Again as I believe a lot of other editors have told you, we have a lot of guidelines and rules for editing on Wikipedia, and you refuse to abide by them. As Pete said, feel free to list it for AFD, but I caution you, it is simply a waste of time the article meets WP:BIO. It doesn't matter if she was or was not 120, the fact is reliable sources covered her, thus notable. In Wikipedia notability does not equal fame, which it actually says that under WP:NOTE. And you seem to confuse the two. And as to local newspapers, and local books please point me to where in WP:RS it says that? Oh, wait it doesn't. Please read what Wikipedia has to offer in guidelines and rules, we do not simply go off of your opinion on matters such as these, we use the already developed by consensus guidelines and rules and policies. Lastly, as to the autobio on you, that's right you could at some point be notable, I never said you couldn't, in fact read through the first AFD and I said "autobiography does not meet WP:BIO. Could it? Maybe, but as it is now, it does not." and also "OK, out of all of those sources added above, only the one that is a re-print from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution qualifies as significant coverage. It is actually about Robert Young. But I don't think one is enough. Do you have more like that? Had it been an entire biography in book form, that would be enough, but not one article in the local/regional paper." So, yes if you get more coverage in reliable sources, then yes you will be notable by Wikipedia standards. It appears you are well known in your field, but that is not notable for Wikipedia. Again, real world, Wikipedia, two different things. Call your friends at all the newspapers who have used you as a source and have them write an article on you. Really, is it that difficult to call them and have them interview you and write a piece on you? According to you, you are world famous, so one would think they would be beating down your door to write an article on you. Once that happens I'm sure other editors would be willing write a biography on you. I would even do it, granted again you make amends where necessary as pointed out by myself and others. But until you begin editing properly, I and many editors (i.e. see all the admins at the ANI) will continually push you to edit/contribute properly. If you take that as harassment, so be it, since nobody can seem to get you to comprehend the issues. Aboutmovies (talk)

Tualatin Academy

Hiya. Someone created this as a redirect to Pacific University, which I think you'll agree wasn't necessarily the best idea, so I created a lovely, completely unreferenced but action-packed stub if you have the time and resources to do anything with it. Thanks! Katr67 (talk) 23:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, certainly needs it own article, I'll see what I can add, but it won't be this weekend. Horner has some info on it. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk:1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack assessment

Would you agree this is a "Mid"? I left it blank knowing you'd come along to evaluate, but the article's author has assessed it for us. Katr67 (talk) 21:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, mid sounds about right. National newsmaker, first bioterror attack in US, but no one died and no long term impact (other than no more Rajneeshees). Aboutmovies (talk) 01:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for looking. Do you think the US attorney they were plotting against needs an article? Katr67 (talk) 02:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

As an US attorney I don't think he would make one of the automatic inclusion criteria, so there would have to be enough news coverage about him (you know, unlike a certain old person tracker) which might be available with Time and the NYT all available online now. I'll be busy finishing collateral James Alger Fee stuff this week (the SCOTUS case, courthouse, expand the curfew violator). But after finals I might look into it. Aboutmovies (talk) 03:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 19 November, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Albert E. Wilson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, Daniel 11:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...

for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. — Zaui (talk) 15:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Sanity Check

OK, so I swear I haven't been hitting the brownies, but I also swear some of the Oregon history templates sported the color combo of History Sign Brown and Oregon Template Periwinkle. But not anymore?! I was going to suggest that those colors clashed a bit, but now I can't figure out which one(s) they were. In other news, I'll try to finish up Hillsboro, Oregon today before anybody can criticize it for any of the little fiddly stuff. Katr67 (talk) 20:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I re-did the templates a month or so ago to make them collapsable, so maybe the color clash disappeared. I don't recall any periwinkle (but I'm a guy so I'm not really sure what color that really is; we know black, blue, white, gray, purple, green, yellow, brown, orange, and sometimes burgandy). Thanks for looking over H-town. I think its GA class, but every little bit helps. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know what Periwinkle (color) was either. "Lavender" seems more precise to me. —EncMstr 20:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) OK, I guess I'll have to be more careful where I get my coffee beans. FYI, Wikipedia really does have an article on everything. You're lucky you don't know about Aubergine... Katr67 (talk) 20:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I figured it out, kind of. This Template:Or hist navigation is brown on top in Explorer and periwinkle in Firefox. So is this some weirdness of my settings, because I can't figure out anything from the code? Katr67 (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, but it didn't USETA look like that. I just noticed this a day or two ago. It shows up perry, er, light blue in both Safari and FireFox 2 on my Mac, but all the headers used to be brown. I looked at the code, and I don't get why the headers aren't all brown…I'd fix it if I knew how. -Pete (talk) 16:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed it for longer than that, but I figured that for some reason AM had wanted the top bar to match the {{Oregon}} template. Might it have something to do with our monobook settings? Katr67 (talk) 17:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Brown is what I wanted, and that's how it shows up for me in IE. I have the same problem with FireFox. I tried a few things, but nothing worked. I guess I'll try to find a template wikiproject and see if they can take a look and figure it out. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)? -Pete (talk) 20:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I left a note on the main template's talk page and someone took care of the issue, at least for FireFox. Pete, does it look right on Safari now too? Aboutmovies (talk) 07:08, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? was updated. On 22 November, 2007, a fact from the article Yasui v. United States, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Oregon History templates

Hey, how's it going? Have a look at Template talk:Or hist navigation, I was WP:BOLD, and I think the templates look better and will be easier to manage in the future. Let me know your thoughts at the talk page mentioned above. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (talk) 11:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC).

• Okay, okay, your points are duly acknowledged. The alignment thing is not too hard to address - we can change alignment to center instead of left. As to the picture, I think that is the only option, I'm not sure, but yea, let's hear from the project folks. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (talk) 22:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC).

About the Solomon Court House

Not something that could be added to this article, but DYK my great-grandmother was born on the block this structure now stands? P.S. 19 DYK articles in 3 months? That's more than I've achieved in as many years! -- llywrch (talk) 18:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. So did that block use to be a hospital, or just a private residence where your great-grandmother was born? Aboutmovies (talk) 21:59, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK, it was a private residence; this would have happened circa 1875. I learned this from my grandmother who a little over died 15 years ago, so I'm unable to ask her for further information. -- llywrch (talk) 21:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 27 November, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article James Alger Fee, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Great job on the numerous DYKs! --Royalbroil 15:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Interestingly...

I see we share a birthday. Just dropping by to send a note/question regarding the ongoing improvement of my first Wikipedia article. Are internet references the only references allowed on Wikipedia? The subject of my article has had plenty of publicity in the past, but most of it was in print, and I'm having trouble locating the 'big-ticket' references considered ideal with the standard search engines. As to the specific notability of a contributing party in award winning media, I would assert that music, (and sound) though not credited with top billing, is a crucial part of the entertainment and advertising industries, and worthy of notation. To overuse an example: without the music of John Williams, Jaws, Star Wars, ET and Raiders of the Lost Ark would not have been what they were. People in circles of production are most aware of the importance that musical composition and sound play in the success of a project. Since notability is subjective, and the importance of relevant references is limited to the media consumption of those making the determination, I would think that more time would be needed to allow those with access to that media to contribute to the article. A couple of weeks seems insufficient to build an article from a collective of industry insiders, such as those the subject would serve. Thank you for the interaction. I am encouraged to have well intentioned and more experienced Wikipedians helping me shape this article. Studiomanager (talk) 23:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)