Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
Uncontroversial proposals
Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:WP:RM2|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}}
rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.
If you object to a proposal listed here, please relist it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.
- Pundit (India) → Pandit — Pandit is the much more common transliteration —Kineticman 03:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- 7.65x 53mm Belgian Mauser → 7.65x53mm Belgian Mauser — Article renaming in line with Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Firearms#Naming_conventions_for_ammunition, and to correct a typo made during initial attempt to shift page. --Commander Zulu 04:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Into the Night (song) → Into the Night — The songs as well as the film are widely known, so I propose that Into the Night (currently about the film) be moved to Into the Night (film), and Into the Night (song) (currently a disambiguation page) be moved to Into the Night. —Tim Smith 12:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Portal:Portals → Portal:Contents/Portals — it is part of the contents pages set. The Transhumanist 17:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Portal:Categorical index → Portal:Contents/Categorical index — it is part of the contents pages set. The Transhumanist 17:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Incomplete and contested proposals
- Mérida, Mérida/Translation → Mérida, Mérida — Finished the translation in the /Translation page, not we ought to move it to the front article —Wafry 11:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Mérida, Mérida/Translation and Mérida, Mérida look like independent parallel articles (both in English) about the same town. This looks like a job for a merge. Anthony Appleyard 16:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Colombian Civil War (1964–present) → Colombian armed conflict —(Discuss)— Someone moved the page ignoring the controversy behind the term. —Zer0~Gravity (Roger - Out) 22:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC) --Zer0~Gravity (Roger - Out) 22:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Lists of basic topics, Lists of topics, and List of glossaries were moved to portal space completely out of the blue and without any discussion taking place prior to the move. A discussion is underway at Wikipedia:Lists concernng the apparent contradiction between lists and WP:SRTA (the guideline cited as the reason of the move). Please move the lists back to their original locations until it is decided they should be moved from their original locations. Thank you. The Transhumanist 22:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- The main discussion over which namespace they belong in is at Wikipedia talk:Contents. I've asked for help with this issue at dozens of places over the last few months (namespace/list policypages, pumps, mailing list, individual admins, an RfC) without any solid consensus that The Transhumanist agrees with developing. More feedback there would be much appreciated. The other discussion that TT refers to is at Wikipedia talk:Lists#Contradiction between Wikipedia:Lists and Wikipedia:Avoid self-references. --Quiddity (talk) 21:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- I would recommend asking for opinions at the village pump. Dekimasuよ! 07:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- Like I said, I've done that already. Literally asked at 3 policy talkpages, 1 rfc (posted for double-length), the pump (policy), the mailing list wikien-l, and individually asked a few admins. Like dab says, TT is a hard-sell ("filibustering") on whether we have consensus already (I believe that there is: 11 editors (5 of them admins) vs 2 (TT and Phoebe), if counting). Regarding this move, he even posted on ANI (plus 4 other places). If you want to remove this request from this page, that's fine by me (I didn't due to involvement, and instead just added context). If you'd like to help with the discussion too, that'd be even better :) -- Quiddity (talk) 18:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- I apologize for my lack of reading comprehension. I think what happened is that I noticed the move request from mainspace to portal space for the mathematics topics in the backlog below, and I believed that discussion there should be superceded by the outcome of this one... but looking through the linked talk pages, it didn't appear that discussion was ongoing, or that a conclusion was reached, so I typed a generic suggestion without examining things further. Dekimasuよ! 04:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
- Lists of mathematics topics → Portal:Mathematics/Lists - decision of the closing admin overturned by a party involved in the survey, see Talk:Lists of mathematics topics#No consensus at all was reached on this move. This is bogus. Asking that (another?) closing admin / uninvolved party reviews the situation, and for instance:
- Confirms the move back to its original place, in which case the rationale on top of the closed poll should be ammended;
- -or- undoes the overturning of the closing admin's decision;
- -or- re-opens the poll, seen the fact that I tried to get more mathematics people involved only yesterday (see Portal_talk:Mathematics#Stalled_move_request and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics#Stalled_move_request)
- -or- ... (whatever seems best) --Francis Schonken (talk) 08:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- This should probably be negotiated through the admin who closed the request, but let us know if you're having trouble with that. Dekimasuよ! 10:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- It says "decision of the closing admin overturned by a party involved in the survey". THAT IS FALSE. The decision of the closing administrator was "no consensus". The usual "do not modify" tag was added. Then the same admin came along and overturned his own decision, saying, absurdly, that there was a broad consensus for the move. That is nonsense. I moved the page back, thus leaving intact the closing admin's obviously correct "no consensus" outcome. The closing admin claimed there was another page where a broad consensus had been reached. That other page tangentially mentioned the issue twice. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics had not been told of that other discussion. Michael Hardy (talk) 14:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Index Lists is an attempt at a summary of this complex issue. It concerns pages in mainspace like List of timelines, List of basic mathematics topics, and List of film topics. Its scope is currently a few hundred pages, and potentially a few thousand pages. Feedback would be appreciated. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- A mass move proposal is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Rank articles: capitalization of title. Fram 14:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Other proposals
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- Cardinal → Cardinal (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— See page - Survey set up —Johnbod 20:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Cardinal (Catholicism) → Cardinal —(Discuss)— See talk - Massively the main use - survey set up —Johnbod 20:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- GUN → Gun (video game) —(Discuss)— MOS:TM states that "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". —Mika1h 18:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Allan Lee Shaw → Alan Lee Shaw —(Discuss)— revert redirect. Correct spelling of name is one L as evidenced by official site in EL —16:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)Wwwhatsup
- Tout Ensemble → Weezer's sixth studio album -(Discuss)- The title of the album is NOT Tout Ensemble. It has not been announced yet.
- Escort RS Cosworth → Ford Escort RS Cosworth —(Discuss)— Automobile naming convention. I was unable to move because of an existing redirect. —Pc13 12:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- Drive to the Siegfried Line → Western Front (Autumn 1944) —(Discuss)— Many of the actions involved did not actually involve the Siegfried Line. It was an ad-hoc name until a more suitable one could be found. This period is referenced by several sources as the "Autumn/Fall Campaign" —Oberiko 23:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Farid-al-Din Attar → Farid ad-Din Attar —(Discuss)— See WP:MOS-AR for details. The current version is a completely wrong transliteration from Arabic. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 21:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Goring-by-sea → Goring-by-Sea —(Discuss)— to undo recent move that has no usage in wikipedia or elsewhere. —Saga City 20:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Michael Turner (artist) → Michael Turner (comic artist) —(Discuss)— There is another famous artist also called Michael Turner, who is famous for his paintings of aviation and automobiles, consider this link to prove my point —Willirennen 17:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Dodge Challenger Concept → Dodge Challenger —(Discuss)— Considering this article is about a concept car that will be in production in 18 months time, therefore the "Concept" tag will be redundant —Willirennen 13:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- American Solar Challenge → North American Solar Challenge —(Discuss)— The name of this race has been changed as of 2007. —04:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)Bry9000
- Chicago Mercantile Exchange → CME Group —(Discuss)— The name of the company has changed. —OptimistBen 04:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Billy Hayes (smuggler) → Billy Hayes (writer) —(Discuss)— apparent consensus of previous discussion —Chrisahn 19:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- A group → A-group —(Discuss)— The unhyphenated form is incorrect. —Zundark 14:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Africa-Eurasia → Afro-Eurasia —(Discuss)— Currently we have reliable sources only for the latter. —TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 05:12, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Information Radio → 6RPH —(Discuss)— as per official ACMA callsign —New World Man (talk) 05:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- 96fm → 6NOW —(Discuss)— as per official ACMA callsign —New World Man (talk) 04:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- 891 ABC Adelaide → 5AN —(Discuss)— as per official ACMA callsign —New World Man (talk) 04:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- 612 ABC Brisbane → 4QR —(Discuss)— as per official ACMA callsign —New World Man (talk) 04:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Brian Tyler (composer) → Brian Tyler — The Brian Tyler (composer) has much more content than the Brian Tyler (racecar driver)—enderminh (talk) 22:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Note there is no place for discussion. This would require real evidence. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Resource (types and developments) → Resource —(Discuss)— general article on resource —Inwind (talk) 21:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hispanics in the United States → Hispanic American —(Discuss)— POV, follow other naming conventions, disambig too small —75.171.134.53 (talk) 11:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- El Niño-Southern Oscillation → El Niño —(Discuss)— Current name is in violation of the MoS. I have no preference for "El Niño" over "Southern Oscillation" but both require administrator intervention. Happy‑melon 09:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC) —Happy‑melon 09:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 11:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- SDF-4 Izumo → SDF-4 —(Discuss)— This fictional vessel has been identified by two different names (Izumo and Liberator) in Genesis Climber Mospeada and Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles, respectively. Request move to SDF-4 to cover both, or at least link to a disambiguation page. —Corsair Armada (talk) 04:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hisarlik → Hisarlık —(Discuss)— this is the correct Turkish spelling —SeL (talk) 00:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Jack Lambert (American football player) → Jack Lambert (American football) —(Discuss)— no reason for the "player" part to be there--Yankees10 (talk) 01:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- Comment This move seems to have been done, but the talk page is now a double redirect. An admin might want to check the histories to see if anything needs sorted. --DeLarge (talk) 17:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- TER Corse → Chemins de fer de Corse —(Discuss)—
- This is the title used of fr.wikipedia
- This is the official name
- CFC is NOT a part of the SNCF (notice that there is NO link at http://www.rff.fr/) and therefore should not use typical SNCF branding
- This seems to be a name only used on Wikipedia, a google search on Chemins de fer de Corse excluding Wikipedia and copycat answers.com showed 1 470 results while the same search using TER Corse only got 489 responses —ChrisDHDR 19:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Georgia-Cumberland Conference → Georgia-Cumberland Conference of Seventh-day Adventists —(Discuss)— its the official name, consistent with similar existing articles, and includes the name of the church denomination —Colin MacLaurin (talk) 13:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Orange_(colour) → Orange_(color) —(Discuss)— Correct spelling of "colour" in US English is "color"
- Naval Troops → Troupes de marine —(Discuss)— improper translation and unilateral renaming —Blastwizard (talk) 09:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Li Na (daughter of Mao Zedong) → Li Ne —(Discuss)— the correct pinyin of her name is Li Ne, not Li Na —Neo-Jay (talk) 07:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)--Neo-Jay (talk) 07:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- UEFA Euro 2004 - Knock-out stage → UEFA Euro 2004 - Knockout stage —(Discuss)— Knockout is a word. —Raymond Giggs 05:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- Gileki language → Gilaki language —(Discuss)— per near universal English usage. — AjaxSmack 01:44, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- List of Japanese POW camps during World War II → List of Japanese internment camps during World War II —(Discuss)— As is indicated in the lead section of the article, this list doesn't just cover POW camps, but also civilian camps and mixed POW-civilian camps. For this reason, the current title of the list doesn't cover the content of the list. The proposed title does cover the content. AecisBrievenbus 01:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Backlog
Move dated sections here after five days have passed.
- 7 x 64 mm Brenneke → 7 x 64 —(Discuss)— nomenclature rules dictated by the international ammunition standards organization CIP responsible for the country of origin. —19:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)Francis Flinch (talk)
- 8 x 68 mm Spitz → 8 x 68 S —(Discuss)— Ammunition saftey and nomenclature rules dictated by the international ammunition standards organization CIP responsible for the country of origin. —19:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)Francis Flinch (talk)
- The Origin of Species → On the Origin of Species —(Discuss)— See Talk:The Origin of Species#On the Origin of Species? —Francis Schonken (talk) 17:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Satanic ritual abuse and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints → Pace memorandum —(Discuss)— Move has been extensively discussed at talk page. Consensus appears to be forming for move, but it has been agreed that a disinterested admin should review before move takes place. See talk page. —Snocrates 02:23, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Dari (Persian) → Eastern Farsi —(Discuss)— Proposed move was because of ambiguity problems with Dari (Afghanistan). Moving to the name that linguists use for the language might help get away from those problems. Unfortunately, instead of discussing the move, an editor simply moved it to Dari (Persian) which introduces new ambiguities. There is an RFC begun on 25 Nov 2007, consensus seems unlikely. Admin supervision seems indicated. —Bejnar (talk) 05:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Bereza Kartuska Detention Camp → Bereza Kartuska Concentration Camp —(Discuss)— Most commonly used name in English-language books; it is a Library of Congress subject heading —Novickas (talk) 16:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- Midlothian (UK Parliament constituency) (1708-1918) → Edinburghshire (UK Parliament constituency) —(Discuss)— Edinburghshire seems to be the much more official name for the constituency, although the county name does seem to have been change some time before 1918 —Laurel Bush (talk) 17:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- FC Chornomorets Odessa → FC Chernomorets Odessa —(Discuss)— The current name is part Russian and part Ukrainian. Look here for the specific reasons —Alæxis¿question? 07:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- GETRAG → Getrag —(Discuss)— Common usage, WP:MOSTM guidelines, etc —DeLarge (talk) 14:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Isuzu Trooper → Isuzu Bighorn —(Discuss)— Nominating as naming convention favors domestic name. The Bighorn according to the Japanese wikipage and the vehicle's official domestic site is the domestic name, wheras the Trooper is its export name —Willirennen (talk) 19:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Sun Conure → Sun Parakeet —(Discuss)— All major authorities use the name Sun Parakeet (not Sun Conure), e.g. the South American Classification Committee, Clements check-list of Birds of the World, Sibley & Monroe check-list of Birds of the World, Howard & Moore check-list of Birds of the World, Handbook of Birds of the World, BirdLife International, etc. Additionally, all recently published field guides to the region where this species occurs also use Sun Parakeet, these being Birds of Northern South America (Restall et al, 2006), Birds of Venezuela (Hilty, 2003), Aves do Brazil (Sigrist, 2006) and Birds of South America - Non-Passerines (Mata et al, 2006). Hence the recommendation of a move of this article —Rabo3 21:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- Bakerloo line → Bakerloo Line —(Discuss)— Restore Wikipedia naming conventions as this is not a unique brand like iPod. Also nominated all LU line pages. —Regan123 20:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Châtelet - Les Halles (Paris RER) → Châtelet–Les Halles (Paris RER) —(Discuss)— The current name, with a spaced hyphen, definitely does not follow Wikipedia guidelines regarding hyphens (WP:HYPHEN). It seems to me that, en anglais, the current usage is an en dash (WP:DASH). However, I am not sure on whether we should go by what it's called en français, and I don't know about French grammar enough to know what is the correct option. The only source on this page is a PDF that shows an unspaced hyphen. —Kelvinc 06:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- RJ 100 → DZRJ-FM —(Discuss)— I'm in a way, making this for ALL Piony radio stations which have articles which use their brand names as the article name. To have consistancy with all other radio station articles that have call letters, I think they should ALL be moved to their respective call letters as their article name. —ViperSnake151 14:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- The Empress Ballroom → Winter Gardens, Blackpool#Empress Ballroom —(Discuss)— The Empress Ballroom's original article is merely a stub, and neither of the sections contain sufficient information for an entire article, therefore it seems reasonable that all the information should be merged under the Winter Gardens' article (the building in which the Empress Ballroom is contained) —Soonlaypale 21:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)