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The Beatles

Hi! I've seen you around on The Beatles' articles... Would you consider becoming a member of WikiProject The Beatles, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of The Beatles on Wikipedia? Please feel free to join us.

Abbey Road... You're not in this picture... yet!

Todo list:

--kingboyk 21:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are right

Thank you for your comments, Zephyrad. This is my first debate at Wikipedia and, frankly, I am surprised by the mob rule and closed-mindedness! I see you are a writer—it does appear those who have to write or edit for a living believe in the lowercase definite article and the uneducated do not, if I were forced to make a generalization. I love your oil analogy. Similarly, though it is not as good an analogy, remember the spam-free internet, before the mob got in?—Jack Yan 23:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zephyrad, thanks for popping by and leaving a comment on my talk page. I got pretty frustrated with the whole thing and only came in today after spotting something on Wiki that was incorrect. Mark was rather negative in his comment below to you, wasn't he? He seemed to think I was rude. Oh well, people will read in whatever they like. Still gets me that the capitalization brigade never had the sense just to Google some newspapers!—Jack Yan 12:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance tags

The thing with some maintenance tags (in films at least) goes like this: some editors go through a huge number of articles looking for what may be missing (or going wrong) and tagging them for it. When a maintenance tag is added, the article appears in a certain maintenance category (like Category:Articles that need a film infobox). Then a number of members organize a campain for cleaning the category by adding the missing item or doing whatever task is needed (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Films#Infoboxes). Of course some tasks have a huge backlog... I hope this gives you an idea. Cheers! Hoverfish Talk 08:46, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry to leave it unclear. It's about you expressed wish (which I also often share) in Talk:Blue Denim. Hoverfish Talk 09:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is now the Beatles

In case you are not watching the page, I have now formalised the policy to reflect the proper way of refering to the band. The announcement is here, and the wording is on the main page. Your help in applying this policy to the articles would be appreciated. LessHeard vanU 15:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am delivering the above message to all the concerned editors. I have noted your comments on talkpages. Please do not bother thanking me for my efforts, although I seriously doubt such a consideration would ever have entered your mind, as I wish to interact with you as little as possible. LessHeard vanU 15:20, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hamilton Stands (deletion review)

Hi, yes, it looks like you've submitted it correctly. (There were very few real problems, but some trolls have blown it out of proportion, but this is how Wikipedia works).--Konstable 11:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wish I could see the original article. But yeah--sometimes you just have to work through the regulations enforced by those who spend a lot of time here. --Lukobe 20:44, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help. --Lukobe 16:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Apple Boutique

That's not punctuation, it's magic! :) --kingboyk 23:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC) (nice edit)[reply]

Ascot Sound Studios

Hi. I don't know if you saw my reply or not, but the bottom line is that if you disagree with an edit of mine feel free to revert it, or open it up to further discussion :) (Bold, revert, discuss). Cheers. --kingboyk 21:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I Apologize

I feel so embarrassed for everytime I inserted the album cover I did not notice the difference. I appreciate the heads up and yes I strongly understand the vandalism polocies which makes me feel worse. Thank you for the good Wiki work. --Apologies2all 13:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Zephyrad. I've replied on your comment at the talk page of 12.32.94.66. - Face 20:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Remo Four

Hi Zephyrad, just a quick "hello" and thank you for the (very quick) formatting of the discography I added last night. I'll try to get dates, etc for the band's original releases. Best wishes, Weydonian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weydonian (talk • contribs) 17:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: RE: The Beatles: An Illustrated Record

I tag articles accordingly, regardless of whether it is in the writing process. If you feel that you have good sources, you can remove the tag. Other than general items, specific things I think require a reference:

"The Beatles: An Illustrated Record is a 1975 book by music journalists Roy Carr and Tony Tyler, published by Harmony Books. Updated editions were published in 1978 and 1981."
- The first sentence is introductory (obviously), but has no reference as to prove its authors and updated version publications.
"Later editions deleted this portion, stating only that they were of generally poor sound quality, and of interest 'only to the most die-hard Beatlemaniacs.'"
- Direct quote, needs reference.

Thanks. <3 bunny 00:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Some of us simply know things, without having the appropriate references right there handy" constitutes WP:OR, which is not appropriate. As for what types of reference, anything that satisfies WP:RS would suffice. I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just saying you don't have reliable secondary sources to back it up. If someone is going to ask you "where did you find this information", "I just know it" wouldn't suffice as an answer. And you know, I'd expand the article, but I'm not particularly knowing of the subject, so I tag it, hoping others who have the knowledge - you, for example, might find the sources and cite them. I'm not trying to be provocative or offensive; I'm merely trying to say that this page lacks WP:RS and some should be added. <3 bunny 01:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:Second class citizenry

There is absolutely no doubt that people from the lower castes are discriminated against by various sections of the Indian society, but my point was that citizenship is granted by the state (state and Union governments) and in that respect people from the lower castes are equal, at least theoretically. Segregation and apartheid were state sanctioned, to my knowledge. In fact, there are well established affirmative action programs sponsored by the state in India, although their effectiveness is a matter of debate. Please see Reservation in India.

But make no mistake, millions of lower caste Hindus continue to face discrimination (along with minority religions and women) even as India's Chief Justice is from the lower caste and Prime Minister is a Sikh among other examples of egalitarianism. My textbooks in India did not mention much abt British involvement in the caste system. So, I really dont know much abt that. But the caste system was officially only abolished when the Constitution of India came into force, after British occupation had ended. Thanks.I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply on my talk page

Hi Zephyrad. I left a detailed response on my talk page, mostly regarding how I interpreted the definite-article debate on "The Beatles" vs. "the Beatles". I don't have time to take care of the admin actions on the various page moves you pointed out, but if they still need attention later when I do have time, I'll see what I can do. Thanks. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Beatles moves

Thanks Let me say first off, that I have an aesthetic preference for "the Beatles," so I have not moved anything as a matter of trying to unilaterally impose my own preference. Secondly, I took a look at the link you gave - and I hope you can appreciate this - I do not know that I have the time or energy to read all of these posts. I looked for a final consensus and did not immediately see one. Are you trying to say that there is some official preference for "With the Beatles?" What again was the rationale for that? Is that not contrary to similar policy on Wikipedia? Thanks so much for your time. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay Well, I certainly won't be offended if anyone moves the pages - yourself included. That having been said, it seems like this indicates an arbitrary and inconsistent capitalization including resorting to capitalization used by "official" sources (e.g. the title card of "The Birth of the Beatles" has a lower-case "the" so that article should be lower case, whereas "A Day with The Beatles" uses caps, so it should be caps.) This is directly contradictory to Wikipedia:Trademarks which reads "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting 'official'" and follows with examples. Regardless of what is decided by a WikiProject, those rules supercede, do they not? Now, it is my understanding that normative English includes capitalization of "the" in Beatles since it is a proper name. Again, that's not my personal preference, but it's my understanding of how things are to be done. This is why I asked "Is that not contrary to similar policy on Wikipedia?" and I feel like I need to reiterate that question again.

I realize that the discussion about capitalization was long, drawn-out, etc. before. I don't particularly care to get into the middle of it, since, to the best of my knowledge, it is irrelevant anyway. Either all "the"s should be capitalized or none of them should (barring obvious examples such as the beginning of a sentence.) Also, if there was not actual consensus reached (and it appears there wasn't from your response) I don't see how me reading all of it is in any way germane. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Your last post really clarified your attitude, but it didn't exactly answer my questions. I appreciate your note and the good-will behind it. -Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

apologies

Regarding your comment on my talk page: it definitely looks like I made a mistake. I apologize; I'm usually more careful. Please forgive me.
Samboha (talk) 04:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You removed a cited, published statement

You removed a statement published on the CD liner for Wonderwall Music. That was Derek Taylor, quoting George Harrison. You replaced it by an uncited statement which contradicts it. See the Wonderwall page discussion.

Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 23:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some good points you made, followed up on the Wonderwall Music Discussion. Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 01:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Second-class citizen

Why have you removed referenced information about Latvia, coming from a reliable source - Council of Europe? 213.175.125.23 (talk) 06:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]