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Welcome

Welcome!

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Thanks for your work on this article. As I said on the talk page, if you can use those sources you referenced to improve the article, that would be great. Thanks, JRawle (Talk) 23:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Wacker Construction Equipment AG requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

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Sheffield Stuctures

The template should only go in articles related to buildings in Sheffield and not the main page. There is also a {{football in Sheffield}}, {{Parks and Woodlands in Sheffield}}, {{Waterways in Sheffield}}, {{Sheffield stations}} and {{districts of Sheffield}} templates that would also have to go in the main article if we were to start adding templates relating to specific subjects. This would create an overly cluttered footer (even with collapsing). josh (talk) 22:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One possiblity is to use {{Template group}} as below. I'm still not sure about the usefulness as anyone looking into the subjects would be looking at their related articles rather than the main Sheffield page but if other people consider them useful then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

josh (talk) 16:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC) --- Discussions between June to October 2008 moved to Archive 1 ---[reply]

University of Derby

There is no indication that the tag placed on the University of Derby page was warranted. The quality of the page is well above wiki standards. It seems you may have a different motive here. Either way, the tag is malicious. If you are honest with yourself; genuine with yourself, you will see that the tag is not needed. The page exceeds the quality level of the vast majority of wiki pages in terms of clarity, style, and honestly. Search your motives and be honest with yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.38.178 (talk) 13:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hi bd ... I'm hoping the protection might help. The user above obviously thinks you need to think outside the box .... hmmm ... and the Derby Uni page is an improvement? Its good for an old type web page. Good luck. Victuallers (talk) 20:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am adding this to show my agreement with 70.161.38.178. It does not appear that your edits are legit. You have damaged the integrity of the page. In fact, created a problem when there was not one and then persisted to escalate the false problem. I also agree that you should be honest with yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.218.37 (talk) 21:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on Derby Uni article - The only edit I have initialy made was to flag up what in MY "Honest" opinion the page needs {{cleanup}} as it does not meet the accepted standards of presentation and content in some areasWP:MOS. To remove edit tags without reason is a breach of wiki guidelines and is considered WP:Vandalism which was reverted by another editor before me. I had asked on the talk page for discussion. The page quality is well below the standard wiki editor are working to acheive. The standard of other university pages is a seperate issue, as they were not the page being looked at. The style oveall style was not in question particulartly, just content not meeting wiki guide lies like WP:EL, listings of courses and lack of references in the text WP:Cite to back up claims. Feel free to discuse on the articles talk page were all Editors to the article can join in (as was requested initialy). The claim that adding a maintenace tag damages the integrity of the page is a bit strange, as the purpose of the tagges is to engage all editors, rather than just changing the page en block. Wiki articles are not adverts for the subject of the article, but a descriptiom of what something is or was in general terms (What, Were, When). If people want the lastest news whatch the TV or read a Paper, for the bus or train times get a timtable or look on the providers web site. You are both free to have your veiw on the page and edit it if done in a constructive manner, and within wikipedias accepted guidelines for editing. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 23:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Firstly, your honest opinion is worthless to an encyclopedia. Opinion has no place whatsoever. Secondly, the standard of other university pages is not a separate issue as simple logic dictates that to have any standard there must be a relational class. Thirdly, and beyond damaging the integrity of the page, tags damage the integrity of wiki itself and is the prime reason it is seen as so laughable per any reliability. People do not trust the pages. The tag you placed should be of a last resort and not out of laziness. The better option for you was to make the appropriate edits without resorting to the tag. Or, as the admin stated, “think outside the box”. That is, think outside of the tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.38.178 (talk) 03:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you are going to edit. Please pay attention to sentence structure. I am glad you have decided to fix issues instead of merely placing a tag. This is a much wiser decision. However, please do not create sentence errors such as you have with the school of health and the school of science. Under each there is two sentences when there should be one.


To IP editor above. Tags are an integral part of the operation of the encyclopaedia development, as is signing comments on talk pages to assist readers. A degree in English is not a prerequisite for editing Wikipedia, It leaves something for others to do as the perfect editors not being invented yet which would render most of wikipedia obsolete, and leave some editors with nothing to do. Many eyes are better than one pair and by an iterative process we can get an article thas not from the PR department and full of superlatives and no citations to support wild claims or full of lists that look like a copy of a catalogue of course names that can be for any uni. Anyway back to fixing article instead of debating the finer points of the English language, practice makes perfect (so it is said). P.S is it not "There are two sentences" not "There is two sentences" & I will continue to place tags on articles i do not have time to fix then or feel need the input of other editors expertise, whilst attempting to improve others at my discretion as per Wikipedias collaboration and open access structure facilitates. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 17:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have totally ruined this page in the past couple weeks. It seems like that makes three of us that believe this. I also think you are not being honest with yourself and that your editing has other motives. I agree again that tags are for lazy people and that they destroy the integrity of wiki. You are participating in this destruction. The uni Derby page was immeasurably better before you touched it. You should really be honest with yourself. Your edits are not productive for anything other than yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.220.55.202 (talk) 15:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh so you can discern problems in sentence structure...good job. But you did again miss that the first two sentences of the post needed to be one sentence. You have also failed to correct other errors of the like within the page; errors you created. I think it is interesting how the tide is mounting against your edits of this page....The University of Derby site is much worse than it was, but perhaps you'll keep trying and perhaps you will 'honestly' revert the page to its pre-bulldozer glory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.161.38.178 (talk) 13:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Politics of Derbyshire etc. etc.

Hi

I'll try to help out where I can. I've mainly been watching Engel's progress, deciding to be a part of the democratic process through this parliament at least.

I've looked over her immediate predecessor's entry (Harry Barnes: currently it's a stub) and added banners to the talk page and category information to the entry page.

Cheers

Lomcevak (talk) 09:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also hooked Skinner (Bolsover) and Holmes (Chesterfield) in the loop now.

Lomcevak (talk) 10:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Queen's Park

Rating criteria for WP:CRIC is outlined on our assessment page and the relevant bit about C-class is here. We have agreed that an article must meet all of B-class criteria #1 to #4 for C-class, even if it already meets #5 and #6. Obviously it must meet all six criteria for B-class. An alternative proposal for C-class could be that it meets any four criteria and if you want to take something like that forward, please do so at WT:CRIC. Our assessment guidelines are not carved in stone and we're always happy to amend if a consensus is there. BlackJack | talk page 03:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All current Derbyshire MPs added

Hello again,

I've tagged all current Derbyshire MPs to the Politics of Derbyshire and I'll add banners too (shortly after this).

Greg Knight is appearing in this category too, which I'm puzzled about, since, I think, he's East Yorkshire or something.

Lomcevak (talk) 09:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Well done Lomcevak and ...

A measured response at derby uni BD ... well done Victuallers (talk) 11:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • 1888,,, I think - up to that point there was bits of derbyshire within leicestershire and vice versa. Burton was in derbys and bits of south west sheffield like Dore were derbyshire. I think you can find it but I forget where Victuallers (talk) 21:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White Peak

Hi, you have tagged White Peak for WP:YORKS with a comment tagging for WP:Derbys. Should it be Derbyshire as I do not think that it is in Yorkshire? Keith D (talk) 23:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Three Shire Head photo location

Thanks.

Any chance you can work out why the red blob for locations of Hollinsclough and Longnor, Staffordshire are on Edinburgh in the insert instead of within the Satffordshire boundary of the main outline map? Infobox map system. I have checked and rechecked the grid refs and latitude / longitude refs. No trouble getting 3 shire head in the right place straight away. Robert of Ramsor (talk) 00:04, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ockbrook

Greetings BulldozerD11. Re your recent comments on Talk:Ockbrook. You are not wrong. But instead of writing all that blather and tagging the article, wouldn't it have been a more productive use of your time to actually make the changes you suggest? -Arb. (talk) 20:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and No Arb, As if its just a few bits yes generally i will fix it, but as I'm working round looking for Derbyshire articles, if i spend the time fixing the refs and checking every one of the external links it will take ages for each article. As its a decent article (not like some of the stuff you find) rather than just tag the issues I'd take then time to leave a note as well as tags refer to talk pages for comments. Or I could have taken the other route and just delete almost all the External links as some do. Id rather flag up the issue and let others have the chance to rationalize/ discuss the list who are familiar with it. Or I could just click on by and leave a page thats a Start-class but could be a C and on the way to a B-class article with a bit of work. Its No Win. Some chose to work on a couple of articles, others chose to work on many or collect articles together, add extra cross links. I'd already gone at a tangent by then, so thats why I flag up what i think are issues with the article. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 21:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Silversmith Entry UnDo

Hi BulldozerD11, This was my first go on Wikipedia so no worries about taking down the link. I wasn't sure of the rules on linking to a commercial site but thought it showed lots of good examples, got a better understanding now though. Out of interest how come there is a link to another Silversmiths website in the article. Hope the insert of the image of the handforged Goblets was ok though because it is a good example of handforging and modern silversmithing. If not I can change. Emma-Kate is actually my girlfriend. Thanks RogerRoger5 (talk) 17:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BulldozerD11, Thanks very much for the intro to wikipedia and your comments, really useful and appreciate your time. I have used it before for research think it is great and looking forward to contribute further. Thanks ----

Derby continued

Sorry I was being a tad sarcastic about the uni article on the talk page. despite your efforts its s still reads like its a pyramid selling scam. I mean how many depts have higher degrees? ... why all of them of course ... so why say it? Lots of words but little said. Don't think this is aimed at you. I'm hoping the marketing dept have a reasoned view too Victuallers (talk) 23:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No offence, I had missed the OOtt example you quoted. We all know uni's teach dergee etc. Hence some of my earliar comments + the wood from the trees. And why I slaped advert on the earlier student union update yesterday full of bold text and contact details. If it was just hacked to bits, it would go to an edit/revert war again, so was leaving it to allow other editors & or discussion to take place after the IP block ended. Dont want to waste too much time on it at one go, as plenty of other articles to tweak & Find/Assess for this project and (the others).

Falcon Cycles

Hi again, you are going to have to give me a clue on this one as I see no connection to Yorkshire in the article. Keith D (talk) 20:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All Done (Derbyshire MPs past and present)

Further to earlier posts, all Derbyshire MPs, past and current are now situated in appropriate sub-cats under Politics of Derbyshire. Article pages are tagged appropriately and talk pages have all been brought-up to the same 'boilerplate' standard. I now resume my normal programming :-)

Regards Lomcevak (talk) 12:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Steam fairs

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Manitowoc cranes color scheme

I notice that you keep adding in The Manitowoc Company page that Manitowoc cranes are usually red with an orange circle and a white "Manitowoc" through it. This has not been the Manitowoc logo for quite some time. While the crawlers and tower cranes (in the US) are red, all the other cranes have a different paint scheme and different brand names and logos. The Manitowoc "meatball" as it is referred to, has gone through a few transformations since the orange circle and was found only on crawler cranes from years ago. Kkoeppen (talk) 22:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on users talk page. (summary:Not adding in just reverted an unexplained/cited deletion that also removed references from article) - BulldozerD11 (talk) 02:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a shame on Wikipedia when people go round adding random "fact" tags, when the fact they are querying - and which i didn't personally add - is so easily verifiable. You three seconds would be better spent referring to The Derbyshire's website, and adding a reference thereto, than adding spurious "fact" tags to the article.

MarkyMarkD (talk) 19:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Tiny stubs are just annoying as you see a link ... follow it ... and then find it tells you nothing. Nothing wrong with redlinks but those ones had been there for some time. Thx for your efforts. I do try to keep the assessment lists in check. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 00:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of Broadband service

Due to failure of BT/Tiscali to currently provide a working broadband connection and voice line simultaneously i'm currenty unable to operated on Wikipedia. (Must have worn the line out with data volume).

Normal service will resume once service restored and watchlist backlog cleared (Currently 2 weeks), as Wikipedia is impossible by dialup connection 1mb data up, 12 mb down and 30 minutes to edit 2 pages.

Hopefully back before new year, But will wish you all a Merry Christmas now in case they fail to fix it before then. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 00:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again nice to have you back in action. Keith D (talk) 14:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Model villages-- thanks

Nice work mate!

I just noticed a couple of really trivial little fixes but this is looking really nice now. Thanks.

SimonTrew (talk) 11:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lincolnshire

Thank you for the message, it’s much appreciated. If we can help one another on projects, it makes for a better Wikipedia. Lincolnshire is my core area, along with people, places, military etc, that are associated with the county, though I do dabble in the book and history projects and articles. I read a fair bit.

The project importance levels, are more as I see it for working on, and so you may see them different to the other projects, for example a place under the England project may be low, but for Lincolnshire project it may be mid to high, because it is important to us. A lot of work is still needed, but if we all chip away at it, we’ll get there in time.

Please always let me know your thoughts on these issues, and also if you ever need help on an article connected to the county. --BSTemple (talk) 16:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah Lincolnshire is kinda one of those places you just drive through. I went to Lincoln a couple of years ago it is gorgeous, like why did nobody tell me this was here? Always the way, when things are on your doorstep you don't bother to go see them. 17:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, for Engineering firms, I certainly can think of Lincoln, as it's famous for aircraft and tanks, though much looks to be going into decline now. The comment above is true though, Lincolnshire is beautiful. Did you know by the way, that the council are going to shut the tourist office near the Cathedral?
I agree with the importance (priority) parameter, this is how in general, I see it. Cities/Major Towns "Top", Important towns "High", other towns "Mid", and Villages mostly "Low", with exceptions. Each has to be looked at on its own merits.
Important is also Lincolnshire people, businesses, history etc. I have also found Keith D to be very helpful in the Lincolnshire articles and has dealt with Vandalism on many occasions. I live in Lincolnshire, so can also see what is right and wrong in many of the articles, which helps. I know what you mean about the linked comments page, and will start to use these, these do seem to open up new pages and I think will be useful, if other Editors know to use them or even know they are there.--BSTemple (talk) 18:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, knowing they are there is the hardest bit, even with a good search sometimes I can't find anything. WP:Overlink and [[WP::Underlink]](same article) also give some advice. One of the nice things about the collaborative nature of Wikipedia is others can come alog after and add links-- I tend to leave a template like '[citation needed]' when I can't find it while editing. SimonTrew (talk) 19:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alderwasley=

hi mate you can't stop me writeing that i wen't there for 3 years and its a crap school with a headteacher who don't gaive a damn 84.68.85.213 (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]