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Josh Homme

Joshua Michael Homme (born May 17, 1973[1] in Joshua Tree, California) is an American rock musician and record producer. He was a founding member of the desert rock band Kyuss, as well as the founding and only continuous member of the hard rock band Queens of the Stone Age (QOTSA), in which he mainly sings and plays guitar. However, Homme is a multi-instrumentalist and plays bass, drums, and keyboard. He co-founded and occasionally performs with Eagles of Death Metal as its drummer, and continues to produce and release a musical improv series with other musicians, mostly from the Palm Desert scene, known as The Desert Sessions.

Early life

Homme was born in Joshua Tree, California and grew up in Palm Desert, and began playing guitar at age nine.[2] His earliest musical influences included crossover hardcore punk bands Black Flag, Charged, GBH and Discharge, as well as Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin and ZZ Top.[citation needed]

At 6 feet 5 inches (1.96 m), Homme commanded attention by sports coaches in high school.[citation needed] However, his main interest was in music, and all efforts to turn him into an athlete went amiss.[citation needed] Later, Homme would cite surfing as his main sport activity.[citation needed]

Musical career

Kyuss (1989 to 1995)

At age 14 in 1987, Homme formed a heavy metal band with school mates John Garcia and Brant Bjork in Palm Desert called Sons of Kyuss (later shortened to Kyuss). Homme was the band's lead guitarist. The band would become a cult phenomenon by the early nineties.[citation needed] The band often drove for hours out to isolated locations in the desert and plug into generators to perform, and these events, known as "Generator Parties" became urban legend among rock subculture.[3]

In concert with Kyuss, Homme would frequently toy with his equipment in order to gain a more psychedelic tone, often playing his pawnshop Ovation Ultra GP jazz guitar through old Ampeg bass amplifiers and an array of pedals while tuning his guitar two steps lower than normal, thus adding a heavier mood to the songs.[citation needed] When heckled or booed, he would frequently point out the heckler to the crowd and unleash a slew of profanity that included encouraging or challenging the heckler to a fight,[citation needed] something that has continued in his shows with Queens of the Stone Age as featured in their DVD release Over the Years and Through the Woods.

Queens of the Stone Age (1997 to present)

File:Homme and Oliveri at the Rancho.jpg
Homme with Nick Oliveri at the Rancho de la Luna in 1999.

Kyuss split up in 1995 and Homme went on tour with grunge act, Screaming Trees as their second guitarist to fill spare time.[4] He and vocalist Mark Lanegan became close friends during their time touring,[citation needed] and Homme would later recruit Lanegan as an additional vocalist for Queens of the Stone Age. Disliking the band's constant arguing and lack of progression, Homme left the group after less than a year.[citation needed] He founded Gamma Ray,[5] a group more centered to his unique style and tastes, which later became Queens of the Stone Age in 1997. Queens of the Stone Age released their eponymous debut album in 1998. Originally, he had asked a number of singers, including Lanegan, to perform as lead vocalist for Queens of the Stone Age,[citation needed] but ended up singing lead for the first time in his career.

Following their debut, the band released several singles and EPs. With the next album, Rated R, the band used a wider range of instruments to achieve a more relaxed, spacious and psychedelic sound.[6] Despite differences from the band's debut, Rated R became Queens of the Stone Age's first mainstream hit. The next release, 2002's Songs for the Deaf, however; would gain even more buzz from the music community and fans alike.[7] In Deaf, Homme continued his filtering of stoner metal and hard rock through the progressive rock aesthetic. The album centers around Homme's memories of an uncomfortable ride through the California desert, where he had performed in his days with Kyuss, and where there was little else to listen to but Spanish radio stations.[8]

During this time, Homme had a falling out with bassist and friend Nick Oliveri. Following the release of Deaf, their relationship deteriorated until Homme fired Oliveri from the band in 2004.[9] Homme began writing their next album, Lullabies to Paralyze, named after a lyric from the Deaf hidden track "Mosquito Song". The album was another concept piece, this time focusing on the occult and folklore common in children's storybooks. Lullabies was in many ways a sequel to the album, with many songs oriented to the folklore nature.

Homme's latest work, Queens of the Stone Age's Era Vulgaris was released in early June 2007 and received generally positive reviews from critics.[10][11][12]

The Desert Sessions (1997 to present)

Homme founded The Desert Sessions in 1997 as a musical collective series "that cannot be defined", at the Rancho De La Luna in Joshua Tree. The recordings are done "on the spot", in matters of hours and the line-up is constantly changing with new contributors being added for each new recording. To this day artists such as Brant Bjork, PJ Harvey, Jeordie White, Dave Catching, Nick Oliveri, Mark Lanegan, Ben Shepherd, John McBain, Josh Freese, Chris Goss, Alain Johannes, Dean Ween and many others from the Palm Desert scene have recorded with The Desert Sessions.

At Desert Sessions, you play for the sake of music. That’s why it’s good for musicians. If someday that’s not enough anymore, or that’s not the reason behind you doing it--that’s not your raison d’etre--then a quick reminder like Desert Sessions can do so much for you, it’s amazing. It’s easy to forget that this all starts from playing in your garage and loving it. - Josh Homme

So far ten volumes of from The Desert Sessions have been released, Homme also stated in the September issue of NME Magazine that he would record more material with The Desert Sessions.

Eagles of Death Metal (1998 to present)

In 1998 Josh formed Eagles of Death Metal with friend Jesse Hughes. Recordings from this project first appeared on Homme's, The Desert Sessions Volumes 3 & 4, released that year. Over the next few years, Homme became distracted from EoDM due to the success of Queens of the Stone Age. However, in an October 2008 interview, he re-affirmed his commitment to the band saying, "This isn't a side project for me. I'm in two bands. I have musical schizophrenia, and this is one of those personalities[13].

So far the band has released three albums: Peace, Love, Death Metal in 2004, Death by Sexy in 2006 and most recently Heart On in 2008. Due to his commitments with QOTSA Homme doesn't regularly tour with the band, but occasionally makes appearances during live performances.

Other musical projects

Other acts with which Homme has collaborated include: Mondo Generator, Foo Fighters, PJ Harvey, Fatso Jetson, Mark Lanegan Band, Trent Reznor, Masters of Reality, Millionaire, Wellwater Conspiracy, U.N.K.L.E., Melissa Auf der Maur, Paz Lenchantin, A Perfect Circle, Death from Above 1979, Earthlings?, Mastodon, Peaches, The Strokes and Local H. Homme is also set to produce new material with Queens of the Stone Age fans, Arctic Monkeys.[14]

Homme was featured on Killer Queen: A Tribute to Queen in the song "Stone Cold Crazy", on Blood Mountain by Mastodon, in the song "Colony of Birchmen", and on Impeach My Bush by Peaches in the song "Give 'Er".

Homme, along with friend and Kyuss/QOTSA contributor/producer, Chris Goss, performed as "The 5:15ers" at the inaugural ArthurBall (an offshoot of the ArthurFest festival) in Los Angeles on January 26, 2006.[15]. The two were credited as "The Fififf Teeners" when they co-produced QOTSA's second album, Rated R and their latest disc, Era Vulgaris.

In July 2009, it was revealed that Homme, alongside Dave Grohl and John Paul Jones, were recording together for a musical project named Them Crooked Vultures.[16][17] The trio performed their first show together on August 9, 2009 in Chicago at The Metro to a crowd of approximately 1,100 ticketholders.[18]

Personal life

Homme and his wife, former The Distillers and current Spinnerette frontwoman Brody Dalle, have a daughter named Camille Harley Homme, born on January 17, 2006. The couple resides in Palm Springs.

Coined "Queens' rough rider" by the Los Angeles Times, Homme collects motorcycles and rides a rare, post-war Falcon Motorcycle.[19] In a radio interview, Homme and Nick Oliveri agreed to give the LAPD permission to use the song "Feel Good Hit of the Summer" in anti-drunk driving films in return for a reduced sentence.[20]

Name and pseudonyms

Homme's surname is of Norwegian origin, and is believed to come from the town Valle, Norway.[citation needed] Homme is known for never giving a straight answer as to how his last name is pronounced,[citation needed] but on several occasions (the BBC radio documentary "Time For Heroes: The Pixies" and on his secret "fan letter" on the final track of Mastodon's album Blood Mountain), he pronounced it as rhyming with "mommy", and this has been generally accepted as the proper Norwegian pronunciation amongst the fanbase,[citation needed] however; according to the most commonly used Norwegian variants the right pronunciation would be [hummə]. When Homme was interviewed in 2005, he again pronounced his surname as rhyming with "mommy". Josh Homme pronounces his name, 647k OGG file[21] Despite this, his surname is most frequently heard pronounced in an American English interpretation of the spelling, rhyming with "bomb".[citation needed] Homme adopted the pseudonym "Carlo Von Sexron" to credit his playing of bass, keyboard, piano, and drums on such albums as The Desert Sessions Volumes 3 & 4, and Peace, Love, Death Metal from Eagles of Death Metal.[22]

Homme is also known as "(King) Baby Duck" to Dalle and the members of Eagles of Death Metal.[23] He is also referred to as "J.Ho." and "The Ginger Elvis"[24]

Controversy

Blag Dahlia incident

In 2004, Homme was involved in a scuffle with Dwarves frontman, Blag Dahlia at an L.A. club. Homme taunted Dahlia, poured beer on his head and struck him with the empty bottle. Homme was ordered to remain at least 100 yards (100 m) away from Dahlia and the club, was sentenced to 3 years probation with community service, and was forced to enter a rehab program for 60 days. [25] This incident is rumored to have been started by a jab Dahlia took at Homme on The Dwarves' 2004 album, The Dwarves Must Die, in the song "Massacre".

This one goes out to Queens of the Trust-Fund, you slept on my floor, now I'm sleeping through your motherfuckin' records.

However, Dahlia himself has not been quoted in any mainstream publications on the subject.

Ozzfest and Sharon Osbourne feud

Homme caused much controversy when he was asked by Blender, a U.S. music magazine, what he considered to be his worst summer job.[citation needed][26]

I won't be playing Ozzfest again - they treat the bands like shit... This year you get to play for free under the guise of, 'We're doing it for the fans!' But it's really for the people who fan Sharon and Ozzy with palm fronds at their house.

Later Sharon Osbourne who is the organizer of Ozzfest tours and festivals responded to Homme's criticism with:

I hope he gets syphilis and dies. I hope his dick fuckin' falls off so his mother can eat it.

In 2007 Homme's former bandmate Nick Oliveri and his band Mondo Generator were added as a non-rotating act on the Second Stage of Ozzfest 2007; the band's invitation and subsequent tour with Ozzfest was thought by many to be a direct slap at Homme from Sharon Osbourne due to their previous war of words.

Norwegian Wood outburst

At the 2008 Norwegian Wood festival in Oslo, Norway, Homme once again made headlines when he called out an audience member who threw a bottle[27] at him during the song "3's and 7's".[28] The entire incident was captured on video.

Hey, you with the fucking hat on, hey, pussy. Turn around you fucking pussy with the black hair. Turn the fuck around you chicken shit fucking faggot. Hey, you. You fucking pussy motherfucker. I will fuck you up. Come on up here. Come on up here, you fucking little faggot. You know what? Get your fucking ass up here. You're so stupid you'll come up here. Lift him up so I can kick him in the fucking face.

The incident soon caused several accusations of Homme being homophobic from several blogs[29][30]. Homme replied with a lengthy public letter denying all accusations of homophobia.[31][32]

Aside from this incident there have been other similar incidents, which have given Josh a reputation for extreme reactions during shows, most notably from objects being thrown on stage.

Musical equipment

"I don’t do that only because my sound is important to me and I’ve spent a lot of years just working it over with little tricks here and there, I almost feel like if you reveal too much of that you give away something that’s near and dear to you. It’s like you put it up on the altar and say, ‘Here, everyone take a slice"

Josh Homme, June 2007[33]

In an interview about guitars in 2008, Homme claimed to own an amount of guitars close to 35, adding that only 3 of them were "really good". He also declared that he purposely did not have a Fender Stratocaster or a Gibson Les Paul, but that he's always in search of intriguing, unique guitars, which are not always generally accepted as "quality" guitars, but are nevertheless great to use. He said that he tends to buy "weird, Japanese" guitars, or guitars that are already "scarred" and thus have a story.[34]

Kyuss-era gear

Guitars:

Homme is very evasive about his guitar equipment, choosing to either change the subject or even lie when asked about his setup in interviews.[35] However it has been established that Homme owns three 1984 Ovation GPs (one sunburst, one black, and one red),[36] and that he often downtunes his guitar to C standard.

  • Ovation Ultra GP - Homme owns three 1984 Ovation GPs (one sunburst, one black, and one red).[36] The sunburst finished GP were also modifed with a string through body and fitted DiMarzio Super 2 pickups. The black one has been fitted with a Tune-o-matic bridge.[37]
  • B.C. Rich Mockingbird - Used up until Blues for the Red Sun.
  • Gibson Les Paul Goldtop
  • Gibson Les Paul double-cut Finished in a very rare cream color, later owned by Dave Catching.
  • Gibson SG - Cream color finish.

Amplifiers:

  • Peavey amplifiers - Used during the early days of Kyuss.
  • Marshall amp with Ampeg bass cabinet - Used from Blues for the Red Sun.
  • Tube Works amplifiers with Ampeg bass cabinets. - Used during the later years of Kyuss.

Queens of the Stone Age-era gear

During the tours up until Lullabies to Paralyze, Homme mainly relied on his Gibson Marauder, his Epiphone Dot, Maton M503 and M524 along with his Ovation GP's. For the Lullabies to Paralyze and Era Vulgaris recording sessions and tours, Homme retired his GPs, and almost exclusively plays semihollow guitars. He is also listed as a user of Seymour Duncan's SH-11, SHR-1b and SH-1 guitar pickups.[38][39]

Guitars:

Homme performing on the Lullabies to Paralyze tour, during which he almost exclusively used semihollow guitars.
  • Motor Ave BelAire - The first ever BelAire model was sold to Homme's longtime collaborator Alain Johannes, a few weeks later Homme ordered one for himself in a black finish and with a silver scratchplate.[40] The guitar was also Homme's main guitar during the recording of Era Vulgaris.
  • Ovation Ultra GP - Homme used his GP's until the Lullabies to Paralyze tour.
  • Maton MS503
  • Maton MS524
  • Maton MS520
  • Maton BB1200 - "Betty Blue" in Black, Blue, Red Wine and a Tobacco sunburst with Scroll Tailpiece.[41]
  • Maton BB1200JH - The new Josh Homme signature guitar based on his favorite Maton, fitted with custom wound "Hommebuckers" and a trapieze tailpiece.[42]
  • Maton MS500 12 string - Developed by Maton in collaboration with Homme, available in standard[43] and deluxe[44] versions.
  • Maton MS526 - Equipped with Bigsby vibrato.
  • Gibson Barney Kessel Signature . Barney Kessel's signature guitar, produced between 1961 and 1974.
  • Yamaha SA503 TVL - Bandmate Troy Van Leeuwen's signature semihollow guitar in black finish, equipped with three P-90 pickups and two three way switches.[45]
  • Teisco '68 V-2 - An unusual Japanese guitar that "wishes it was a Fender" originally purchased by a friend of Homme in Boise, Idaho.[46]
  • Epiphone Dot - A cheaper version of the Gibson ES-335 launched by Epiphone in 1958.
  • Gibson Marauder Custom - A short-lived solid body produced from 1974 to 1979 , designed to compete with Fenders single coil guitars.[47]
  • Gibson SG
  • Ampeg Dan Armstrong - A rare Plexiglas guitar featured in the "Sick, Sick, Sick" video.
  • Hagström HJ-500 - A reissue of the jazz box originally designed by Jimmy D'Aquisto and Hagström.
  • Gretsch Corvette - Used during the recording of Lullabies to Paralyze.
  • Gretsch Spectra Sonic - Also used during recordings.
  • Christocaster - A crucifix shaped guitar. Built from church organ pipes and a neck salvaged from a pawnshop fire. Built by Chicago guitar builder Fred Mangan.[48]

Pedalboard includes:

Amplifiers:

Homme on stage.

During the early days of QOTSA much of his late setup from Kyuss was still being used, later Homme turned more towards Ampeg amplifers and cabinets.[37] Throughout his career Homme has experimented a lot with different combinations of amplifiers, cabinets and settings, here is a list off some of the equipment he has been known to have used.[37][49][50]

  • Ampeg VT-22 120 watt amplifiers with V212 4x12 cabinets (x3)
  • Ampeg V-4 amplifer (x2)
  • Ampeg V-4B - Owns both an amplifer and a combo version.
  • Ampeg VT-40 - One top mounted, pre 1972 and one panel mounted circa 1974.
  • Ampeg VL502
  • Ampeg 4x12 ST-42L Colossus cabinets
  • Vintage Fender Black Face Bassman
  • VOX AC30
  • Gibson Amplifiers - Homme is known to own at least three.

In addition to guitar, Homme frequently plays a Yamaha SA-70 semihollow body bass on songs such as on "Burn the Witch" and "Long Slow Goodbye," as well as every track on QOTSA's debut album except for "You Would Know" and "Give the Mule What He Wants" as well as piano and keyboard under the pseudonym "Carlo Von Sexron". Homme also plays the drums with Eagles of Death Metal, on The Desert Sessions as well as on some QOTSA tracks. He has also occasionally played lap steel during the Desert Sessions.

Discography

Band or artist Album Release date Credits
Kyuss Sons of Kyuss 1990-04-19 Guitars
Kyuss Wretch 1991-09-23 Guitars
Kyuss Blues for the Red Sun 1992-06-30 Guitars and co-producer
Kyuss Welcome to Sky Valley 1994-06-28 Guitars and co-producer
Kyuss …And the Circus Leaves Town 1995-07-11 Guitars and co-producer
The Desert Sessions Volumes 1 & 2 1998-02-24 Vocals, guitar, keyboard, drums, and bass
Queens of the Stone Age Queens of the Stone Age 1998-09-22 Vocals and guitar, bass, keyboard and piano.
The Desert Sessions Volumes 3 & 4 1998-10-27
The Desert Sessions Volumes 5 & 6 1999-09-14
Queens of the Stone Age Rated R 2000-06-06 Vocals, guitar, percussion, drums, piano, backing vocals, mixing, concept and co-producer.
Kyuss Muchas Gracias: The Best of Kyuss 2000-11-28 Guitars and co-producer
The Desert Sessions Volumes 7 & 8 2001-10-16
Queens of the Stone Age Songs for the Deaf 2002-08-27 Vocals, guitars and co-producer.
The Desert Sessions Volumes 9 & 10 2003-09-23 Vocals, guitar, bass, drums, percussion.
Eagles of Death Metal Peace, Love, Death Metal 2004-03-23 Drums, percussion, bass and producer.
Queens of the Stone Age Lullabies to Paralyze 2005-03-22 Vocals, guitar, bass , piano, drums, percussion and co-producer.
Eagles of Death Metal Death by Sexy 2006-04-11 Drums, backup vocals, keyboards, bass, guitar and producer.
Queens of the Stone Age Era Vulgaris 2007-06-12 Vocals, guitar, percussion, bass guitar, lap steel guitar, piano, organ, percussion ball and co-producer.
Eagles of Death Metal Heart On 2008-10-28 Drums, guitars, bass, percussion, vocals and producer.
Arctic Monkeys Humbug 2009-08-24 Producer, guitars and back vocals.

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  20. ^ http://nardwuar.com/stream.php?url=http://serviette.ca/radio_show/nw20070914.mp3
  21. ^ taken from an interview with KBZT radio station, May 19, 2005. 27 seconds in length
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