Talk:Randy Orton

The Viper

I keep trying to add The Viper to Orton's nicknames but someone keeps removing it. If you have watched RAW recently, you'll have noticed Cole has been increasing referring to Orton as The Viper, not describing his actions as viper-like, but actually calling him The Viper. In addition, most online sites are publishing articles calling him The Viper as well, so can someone stop removing it when I add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samee23 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

They also call him The Blue Eyed Demon. Kalajan€·₣ 14:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

There you go. He's definitely called The Viper now. So don't bother changing it again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samee23 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The Legacy

I'm in the process of creating a separate wiki page for The Legacy. Just posting a reminder for myself and others if they want to help out. Lemon Demon (talk) 11:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The consensus at WP:PW is that they are not notable enough for their own article. Hence why The Legacy (professional wrestling) redirects to Orton's article. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 08:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyway I've got the article in my sandbox ready to jump out at moment's notice. Kalajan€·₣ 14:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Well were is it? Mecha13 (talk) 15:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys, i think that bit about making "Legacy" official after the match against triple H and batista is wrong. It was still in the process of recruiting then wasn't it? Then Sim Snuka wanted in, but he and Manu got booted out and Ted DiBiase came back and that's when it came official. Annaya128 (talk) 03:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Ya its now officially a stable especially since they now have a Legacy T-Shirt.

I tried to create a page the other day, but it got reverted back to Orton's page. Consensus is needed, I guess. CollisionCourse (talk) 08:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

intermittent Explosive Disorder

You should note that Orton has intermittent Explosive Disorder: Randy Orton has the rare mental illness known as intermittent Explosive Disorder, he is incapable of controlling his rage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.241.20 (talk) 18:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Got logged OUT - AGAIN! Powerzilla (talk) 18:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

WP is acting really strange. Could be on my end? Powerzilla (talk) 18:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Does he REALLY have IED??

I know he mentioned it a few times on TV, but that's just TV. I'm aware of how slightly scripted the WWE shows probably are (& I mean probably, 'cause I'm not sure about it), and I don't believe EVERYTHING on TV. So I'm wondering does he REALLY have the disorder. Like for real, not on TV. If he really does, can you mention it under personal life. 68.198.28.205 (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Return without wrestling

Is it really not notable that before he returned from his injury, Randy appeared in a primarily speaking role? Mostly I'm thinking of costing Punk the WHC at Unforgiven; being involved in a title change is notable surely? Tony2Times (talk) 16:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd say that's more notable than a lot of his active time. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

HHH vs ORton

HELLOOOOOOO!!!! Why is the Orton HHH fued not updated? Come on people! He has taken out every mcmahon and HHH on multiple occasions, HHh got arrested and Now Orton kissed an unconsious STephanie while HHH was Handcuffed! What more do you all want!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 (talk) 00:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Feuds are not added until they are completed, as more could happen before the conclusion. Thanks, RebirthThom 18:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

It is also considered week-by-week. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Week by Week can still be added because the rule only states it has to be in reason. Orton vs HHH is huge so that is one case where a lot should be listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 (talk) 18:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, the feud hasn't ended and its not notable. When it ends, it will be added, due to the extremity that its led too. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:09, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

No offense but thats very stupid... its better to go week by week... you guys need a life and I suck... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkorichard (talk • contribs) 16:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Please read and adhere to WP:NPA. Telling other editors that they "need a life" is not acceptable, and is not likely to persuade anyone to listen to what you have to say. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

That's why I didn't respond. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

telling people their information is useless and not needed isnt nice either now is it? miss i own wikipedia boo hoo.

Where did 'Blue or I tell someone that there information is "useless"? Please don't put words in my mouth - or 'Blue's either for that matter. Also, stop attacking other editors. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

thats right nici... stop attacking other editors like myself. Rkorichard (talk) 00:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Dude, you need to stop this. This is not acceptable, whatsoever. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:21, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Thats right it isnt acceptable, whatsoever, nici... stop it! Rkorichard (talk) 06:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Randy Orton "LEGEND KILLER"

Not that it's something very important but he is the legend killer and you did not mention the legends that he has RKO-ed like mick foley,dusty rhodes etc....... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.217.32.163 (talk) 20:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Backlash 2009

Under the 2008-Present heading, it should be noted that on the April 6th RAW Mr. McMahon said that there will be a 6-man tag match between the teams of Randy Orton and The Legacy/Priceless vs. Triple H,Dave Batista (originally said to be Vincent Kennedy McMahon, said by himself at the beginning of the 4/6/2009 RAW), and Shane McMahon for the WWE Championship, and that now full-time GM of RAW, Vickie Guerrero added the stipulation that if either side has anyone but the champ or challenger score a pinfall on an opposing member, that teams champion or challenger (HHH or Orton) will win the World Heavyweight Championship —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.157.195.66 (talk) 20:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Backlash is a future event. Also, keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a news site. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that you don't own Wikipedia to decide what goes on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkorichard (talk • contribs) 04:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

You might want to keep in mind that not everything that happens is notable to include, or else this article would be extremely long. Like I said above, Wikipedia is not a news site. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

dont get me wrong, i agree that everything being said prob doesnt need to be on the site... but you guys are mean to these people... you could be nicer about telling them their info isnt needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkorichard (talk • contribs) 00:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, but how are we being mean? It's you that's insulting 'Blue, not the other way around. 'Blue is calmly stating wikipedia guidelines, and you show up to accuse her of thinking that she owns the site and attack her. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, see? blue is a nice person, she handled my comment in a nice way... explained why she said what she said... and it was over, i explained why i said what i said, and it was over again.. then you come on here saying "alert, alert, dont attack others" :) its over nici take your threats and chill pillz and stop attacking me. Rkorichard (talk) 00:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

First of all, what other's comment here or elsewhere, I explain to them in the way it needs to be explained, as does Nici. Also, Nici wasn't attacking you, she was telling you to cut it out, and I'm telling you as well. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

oh my oh my oh my, just because you dont see it as an insult means its not an insult? OMG I FORGOT YOU ARE THE WIKIPEDIA GOD!!! Rkorichard (talk) 06:12, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Headers

Could we not have some more interesting and indicative headers to the subsections in his wrestling career? I was thinking of extending the first one to either "The following night Evolution threw..." or "Orton began an on-screen" and making the header "Evolution". The following section would be something like "Going solo" up until after he defeated Hogan, then "Rated-RKO" for up until the end of his feud with Michaels, then "WWE Championship" up until his injury and finally "The Legacy" for his return from injury to present. His storylines are all pretty long and thus those headers are accurate, plus it just makes it more interesting and more of a narrative that way. Any objections? Tony2Times (talk) 21:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

There's a reason why there aren't any headers on the article. The titles "The following night Evolution thew", "Orton began an on-screen", "Going solo", etc., are not good headers, their POV. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you read my point? Those parts were where I was suggesting the sections should be realigned to. My suggestions for the headers were "Evolution", "Going solo" (or a better one), "Rated-RKO", "WWE Championship" and "The Legacy". These aren't POV, they describe the bulk of the period they header. Tony2Times (talk) 18:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Tony2, you make a good point because most of the other articles have interesting subheaders. I've seen Thinkblue before, he's one of those people who hates updates and changes in order to make all the articles bad. 71.185.187.183 (talk) 02:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Personal attacks are not appreciated. And ThinkBlue is a good editor and she, nor anyone else on Wikipedia that's not a vandal wishes articles to look bad. It may be your opinion that articles that follow WP guidelines look bad. That's irrelevant. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 14:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Is it against WP Guidelines to include an actual header rather than just a bi annual divide? I think it'd be better to have abritrary splits based on storylines and his career than mere calendar appropriated divisions. Tony2Times (talk) 17:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

To my knowledge it's not and I prefer it to the current system. My above comment wasn't meant to specifcally to address the naming system. It was more towards that IP's attitude. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I didn't think that bit was towards me but seeing as you were talking about policy I thought I'd ask. I just put in those headers to see what they look like, I don't think they're too shabby aside from the Rated-RKO one/Age of Orton one; I didn't think the Rated-RKO section was long enough for its own section. Tony2Times (talk) 22:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

"Evolve" theme song

What source says this is the official title of the theme song used by Evolution prior to them using "Line In The Sand" by Motorhead? Did someone find this from Jim Johnston's BMI page? If not, then I believe this needs to be removed or replace stating that it's title is unknown at this time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.78.3.47 (talk) 01:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Personal Life

Under personal life is there a way to add those who Orton has been romantically linked with? I have some clips about female wrestlers, wrestlers family members, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mroseanne (talk • contribs) 13:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia is not the place for stuff like that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Funny, because I see this on others sites like Hardy, Edge, and CM Punk. Please kid, you obviously don't use the site much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkorichard (talk • contribs) 04:30, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

In which case, the information is backed up by verifiable, reliable sources. As an aside, ThinkBlue is a regular contributor to wikipedia with over 35,000 edits to her name - obviously she uses the site quite a bit. Please don't throw around random, patronising comments about other editors without checking your information first. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:04, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Nici, just because she has a lot of post doesn't mean she could be nicer about stuff... and who is to say that this person didnt have a reference or something to back it up?? i didnt even know blue was a girl... lol im just wishing you guys would be nicer to the people that are saying things and your being rude to them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkorichard (talk • contribs) 00:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I fail to see how 'Blue has been anything but civil on this talk page. I wish I could say the same for you. Unfortunately, I am not a mind-reader, and neither to the best of my knowledge is anyone else on this site. Unless someone provides a source for us to see, we cannot judge the information for verifiability and accuracy, and therefore it does not get added. This is standard policy.

See? you just insulted me... you can be nicer... and then sending a message "warning" me? plz... Nici i was being civil in explaining but you keep saying "your just being rude" ok that was my argument about you and your proving it... on another part of this i saw blue say "there is a reason this and that isnt on here" but her reasons didnt even relate to what the guy posted... i think blue is probably a nice person, i cant say the same about you as you have not even tried to see my side of it... Rkorichard (talk) 23:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

"There's a reason why there aren't any headers on the article. The titles "The following night Evolution thew", "Orton began an on-screen", "Going solo", etc., are not good headers, their POV. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 16:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you read my point? Those parts were where I was suggesting the sections should be realigned to. My suggestions for the headers were "Evolution", "Going solo" (or a better one), "Rated-RKO", "WWE Championship" and "The Legacy". These aren't POV, they describe the bulk of the period they header. Tony2Times (talk) 18:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Tony2, you make a good point because most of the other articles have interesting subheaders. I've seen Thinkblue before, he's one of those people who hates updates and changes in order to make all the articles bad. 71.185.187.183 (talk) 02:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)"

see? thats the point im getting across... im not insulting anyone.. im telling you guys, stop insulting people who dont agree with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkorichard (talk • contribs) 23:39, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Dude, seriously, you need to stop this. Stop trying to create fights, like I've told you, this isn't the place for it. Also, you need to stop this "I'm a victim" scenario. No one has insulted you, you've been told stop your actions, which quite frankly I don't see as an insult. To be honest, you replying to my comment above, "Funny, because I see this on others sites like Hardy, Edge, and CM Punk. Please kid, you obviously don't use the site much", is kind of an insult, cause you obviously don't know me. Also, you were warned for a reason. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

boo hoo i was warned wahhh wahhh Rkorichard (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Early life section

Is there a reason why his birthday is listed in this section when it is the introduction and the infobox with the same citations? Just curious.(MgTurtle (talk) 14:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC))

I understand its mentioned in the lead and in the infobox, but its also helpful if its mentioned in the early life section. Other wrestling articles like Shawn Michaels, John Cena, Stacy Keibler, Stephanie McMahon, etc., have their birth dates and no one has complained made mention about it. I don't see the problem with this article having it, too. Also, this version is what prompted me to restore his birth date. Its never a good idea to remove references that are used throughout the article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with having it where it is either, I actually think the article, as it is, is very good. Rkorichard (talk) 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Summer Slam 2009

June 15? Its Almost Agust shouldn't it be metioned that Cena and Orton will fight for the WWE champion at Summerslam 09?????????????????????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.81.66 (talk) 22:12, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

We don't add future events. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Randy Orton's Nicknames

Over the last few months Michael Cole has given Randy Orton 2 new monikers or nicknames and they are: "The Viper" and "The Apex Predator of the WWE" i know that the viper is already up but should the apex predator be up as well? just asking. (RKOLegacy (talk) 12:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC))

And also why isn't "The Legend Killer" in bold anymore the WWE official website call him that almost in every article. (RKOLegacy (talk) 14:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC))

Survivor Series

it should be noted he was an alternate in the smackdown vs raw match because eddie guerrero passed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.60.4 (talk • contribs)

Its not called AWOL in the Marine Corps

The United States Marine Corps calls the idea of 'AWOL' "Unauthorized Absence" or UA for short. Just a little change, but Marines know the difference and should be reflected as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uncontested (talk • contribs) 16:07, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

August 17 edition of Raw

Orton beat Benoit in a rematch from SummerSlam 2002 the next night on Raw. I thought it was still kind of notable, and it was missing. I added that bit of detail with a citation, but if it's not needed, feel free to take it out.45g (talk) 06:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Signatures

You should add the Scoop Slam to his singnature moves, as he usually does that in every match? Ihmine (talk) 20:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Got a source?--WillC 01:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Early Life Randy Orton has also dated Milena Roučka and broke up.

Early life

Randy orton also has dated Milena Leticia Roučka and broke up . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.172.183.130 (talk) 16:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you please provide a verifiable, reliable source for that information? It cannot be added to the article otherwise, due to the biographies of living persons policy. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 18:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)