User talk:Ponyo

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Looking at the deletion log for that page, I think it's time to give it a dose of salt. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:37, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Already done... --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 03:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

October's Very Cold (speedy deletion; questions)

Article: October's Very Cold

What: A remix (mashup) album (free) by producer Chi Duly using sampled material from Drake and Coldplay

Similar to: The Grey Album or Mos Dub

Notability: Not sure. It does have 37 full pages of relevant google results. It also has significantly high marks attached to it on The Hype Machine. There are no major newspaper or magazine articles about it. Of the music blogs that wrote about it, only 7 are Hype Machine blogs. Also in comparison to another wiki article about an unauthorized remix album Mos Dub , there are 6 times as many relevant google results for "Octobers Very Cold", which appears to assert this being one of the most talked about projects of it's kind in 2010 (there are probably more of these types of work emerging than most would think).

Copyright issue: precedents set by The Grey Album and others would point to this work as a fair use. The vocals tracks used from artist Drake were released by label affiliated digital record pools with the intention of encouraging remix material. As far as the Coldplay content, their official website has endorsed past uses similar to October's Very Cold.

I am writing in response to the speedy deletion of the article. I'm new to wikipedia. I have no suggestions or requests for you, only questions that I wasn't able to spot clear answers for on the "Whydeleted" page.

I actually didn't intend on publishing the article though. I just wanted to work on it and wasn't able to google or wiki the answer on how to work before submitting to become an entry. I'm fine with working on the article in sandbox but WAIIIT lol - I believe it is something others will be legitimately interested in editing as there are tons of sources to sort through, and leaving it to an amature such as myself may not be as efficient in.

Final questions:

Was it deleted because the producer is not a notable musician with a wiki page? Should the producer's page be created first?

I started this page under a nickname that is not my government name. I may be overly apprehensive about giving out that info. Is this account a waste of time because of that? Should I delete it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrickDudris (talk • contribs) 03:10, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

The article was deleted under G9 criteria - specifically it was an album by an artist that does not have a Wikipedia artice. Assuming that you are unaffiliated with the artist in question, I would suggest reading through the notability criteria for musical artists first. If you believe that the artist meets the criteria, then please do create the article (preferably supplemented by independent sources to solidify notability). You can include any of the artist's releases in his article. If any of the albums meet WP:ALBUMS, then seperate articles can be created for the individual releases as well. I hope this info helps, let me know if you still have questions. Good luck! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 03:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Antenarrative

Dear Ponyo,

You have deleted the 'antenarrative page.' However, I believe that the term antenarrative is in widespread use both at theory and as methodology in the social sciences. The original page had references to published works on the topic of antenarrative, as well as relationships to the structuralist work of Derrida and the critical discourse work of Bakhtin.

I would like the page reconsidered, since I believe that antenarrative has been demonstrated in theory, method and practice in quite a number of scholarly, peer-reviewed publications, not just by me, but by a host of other scholars.

Here is the published work on 'antenarrative' which is beyond the original work I did as the creator of the theory.

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References Barge, J.K. (2004) `Antenarrative and Managerial Practice' , Communication Studies 55(1): 106-27. Collins, D. & Rainwater, K. 2005. "Managing change at Sears: a sideways look at a tale of corporate transformation". Journal of Organizational Change Management, Vol. 18, No. 1: 16-30. Dalcher, D. & Drevin, L. (2003). "Learning from information systems failures by using narrative and antenarrative methods". Proceedings of SAICSIT, pages 137-142. Eriksen, M. & Colleagues, 2006. “Antenarratives about Leadership and Gender in the U.S. Coast Guard.” Tamara Journal for Critical Organization Inquiry, 5(4), 162-173. Eriksen, M., Van Echo, K., Harmel, A., Kane, J., Curran, K., Gustafson, G., & Schults, R. 2005. “Conceptualizing and Engaging in Organizational Change as an Embodied Experience within a Practical Reflexivity Community of Practice: Gender Performance at the U.S. Coast Guard Academy.” Tamara Journal for Critical Organization Inquiry, 4 (1), 75-80.. Owens, Louis. 2001. As if an Indian were really an Indian: Unamericans, Euaamericans and postcolonial theory. Paradoxa, Vol. 15: 170-83. Report in I hear the Train: Vickers, M. H. (2005). Illness, work and organisation: Postmodern perspectives, antenarratives and chaos narratives for the reinstatement of voice. Tamara: Journal of Critical Postmodern Organisation Science, 3(2), pp. 1-15.Weick, K. E. (1995). Sensemaking. London: Sage. Yolles, M. (2007). The dynamics of narrative and antenarrative and their relation to story. Journal of Organizational Change Management. Vol. 20, No. 1: 74 – 94. Vaara, E., & Tienari, J. Forthcoming. On the narrative construction of multinational corporations: An antenarrative analysis of legitimation and resistance in a cross-border merger. Organization Science. Published online in Articles in Advance, November 30, 2010. http://orgsci.journal.informs.org/cgi/content/abstract/orsc.1100.0593v1 This is my own original work, and work with coauthors on the topic of antenarrative. Boje, D.M. (2001a). Narrative Methods for Organizational and Communication Research, London: Sage. Boje, D. M. (2001b). Flight of Antenarrative in Phenomenal Complexity Theory, Tamara, Storytelling Organization Theory. September 20th, paper to honor Professor Hugo Letiche and his work on Phenomenal Complexity Theory, for the September 24th and 25th Conference on Complexity and Consciousness at Huize Molenaar (Korte Nieuwstraat 6) in the old center of Utrecht, Netherlands. http://business.nmsu.edu/~dboje/papers/ante/flight_of_antenarrative.htm Boje, D. M. (2001c). “Antenarrating, Tamara, and Nike Storytelling.” Paper prepared for presentation at “Storytelling Conference” at the School of Management; Imperial College, 53 Prince’s Gate, Exhibition Road, London, July 9th, 2001. On line at http://business.nmsu.edu/~dboje/papers/ethnostorytelling.htm Boje, D. M. (2002). "Critical Dramaturgical Analysis of Enron Antenarratives and Metatheatre". Plenary presentation to 5th International Conference on Organizational Discourse: From Micro-Utterances to Macro-Inferences, Wednesday 24th - Friday 26th July (London). Boje. D. M. 2005. Empire Reading of Manet's Execution of Maximilian: Critical Visual Aesthetics and Antenarrative Spectrality. Tamara Journal. Vol 4 (4): 118-134. http://peaceaware.com/388/articles/20052.pdf Boje, D. M. (2007a). Chapter 13 Living Story: From Wilda to Disney, pp.330-354. Handbook of Narrative Inquiry: Mapping a New Methodology. Edited by Jean Clandinin, London: Sage. Boje, D. M. (2007b). "The Antenarrative Cultural Turn in Narrative Studies" in Mark Zachry & Charlotte Thralls (Eds.) Communicative Practices in Workplaces and the Professions: Cultural Perspectives on the Regulation of Discourse and Organizations. Boje, D. M. 2007c. Globalization Antenarratives. Pp. 505-549, Chapter 17 in Albert Mills, Jeannie C. Helms-Mills & Carolyn Forshaw (Eds). Organizational Behavior in a Global Context. Toronto: Garamond Press. Boje, D. M. (2008). Storytelling Organizations, London: Sage. Boje, D. M. (2010). Towards a postcolonial storytelling theory that interrogates tribal peoples’ Material-Agential-Storytelling ignored in management and organization studies. Under review, and working paper available from dboje@nmsu.edu Boje (forthcoming). Antenarrative in management research. The Sage Dictionary of Qualitative Management Research: London (2,500 words). Accepted 2006. Draft available at http://business.nmsu.edu/~dboje/690/papers/Antenarrative%20in%20Management%2 0research%20May%2014%2005.pdf Boje, D. M. & Baskin, K. (2010). Dancing to the Music of Story. Charlotte, NC: Information Age Press. See Chapter 1 on complexity. Boje, D. M. (2011). Shaping the Future of Storytelling in Organizations: An Antenarrative Handbook. London: Routledge (release date is March 2011). Boje, D. M. & Grace Ann Rosile (2002). Enron Whodunit? Ephemera. Vol 2(4), pp. 315-327. Boje, D. M. & Grace Ann Rosile (2003). Life Imitates Art: Enron’s Epic and Tragic Narration. Management Communication Quarterly. Vol. 17 (1): 85-125. Boje, D. M., Rosile, G.A., Durant, R.A. & Luhman, J.T. 2004 "Enron Spectacles: A Critical Dramaturgical Analysis". Special Issue on Theatre and Organizations edited by Georg Schreyögg and Heather Höpfl, Organization Studies, 25(5):751-774. Boje, D. M.; Rosile, G. A.; & Gardner, C. L. 2007. "Antenarratives, Narratives and Anaemic Stories" Chapter 4, pp. 30-45, Storytelling in Management, Editors: Ms. Nasreen Taher and Ms. Swapna Gopalan, Publisher: The Icfai University Press, India, First Edition: 2007 (Note: was based upon Paper presented in Showcase Symposium, Academy of Management,. Mon Aug 9 2004 in New Orleans). See conference version http://peaceaware.com/McD/papers/2004%20boje%20rosile%20Gardner%20Academy%20 presentation%20Antenarratives%20Narratives%20and%20Anaemic%20ones.pdf Smith, William L.; Boje, David M.; & Melendrez, Kevin D, (2010) "The financial crisis and mark-to-market accounting: An analysis of cascading media rhetoric and storytelling", Qualitative Research in Accounting & Management, Vol. 7 Iss: 3, pp.281 – 303. Here is the recent work on antenarrative in the February 28 2011, Handbook (London: Routledge), The Future of Storytelling and Organizations: An Antenarrative Handbook, 432 pages. http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415873918/ Contents Introduction to Agential Antenarratives That Shape the Futureof Organizations 1 DAVID M. BOJE PART I Individual, Gender, and Group Antenarratives Introduction to Part I 23 1 Antenarrational Presuppostitions: A Philosophical Refl ection on Responsible Use of Power and (Ante)narrative 29 FRITS SCHIPPER AND BARBARA FRYZEL 2 Antenarratives of Negotiated Diversity Management 47 JAWAD SYED AND DAVID M. BOJE 3 The Tesseract Antenarrative Model: Mapping Storytelling to Multi-dimensional Factor Lattices in Mathematics 67 DIANE WALKER 4 The Antenarrative of Ethics and the Ethics of Antenarratives 87 GRACE ANN ROSILE 5 The Creative Spirit of the Leader’s Soul: Using Antenarratives to Explain Metanoia Experiences 101 KEVIN GRANT 6 Understanding Legal Antenarratives 117 MAJELLA O’LEARY AND KIM ECONOMIDES PART II Organization and Writing Antenarratives Introduction to Part II 13` 7 Living Story and Antenarrative in Organizational Accidents 137 JO A. TYLER 8 Antenarrative and Narrative: The Experiences of Actors Involved in the Development and Use of Information Systems 148 LYNETTE DREVIN AND DARREN DALCHER 9 Strategy as Antenarrative Complexity 163 YUE CAI-HILLON, DAVID M. BOJE, AND CLARINDA DIR 10 Antenarratives, Strategic Alliances, and Sensemaking: Engagement and Divorce Without Marriage between Two Brazilian Air Carriers Firms 176 SERGIO LUIS SELOTI JR. AND MÁRIO AQUINO ALVES 11 Visual/Picture as Antenarratives: Sketching the Research Process 188 TEPPO SINTONEN AND TOMMI AUVINEN 12 Narratives: A Love Story 201 ANNA LINDA MUSACCHIO ADORISIO PART III Antenarratives and Organization Change Introduction to Part III 215 13 Survival Toolkit for Sociotechnical Project Complexity 221 STEVE KING 14 Narratives, Paradigms, and Change 241 GERHARD FINK AND MAURICE YOLLES 15 Antenarratives of Change in Mexican Innovation Networks 253 ENRIQUE CAMPOS-LÓPEZ, ALENA URDIALES-KALINCHUK, AND HILDA G. HERNÄNDEZ 16 Connecting Antenarrative and Narrative to Solving Organizational Problems 268 NICHOLAS SNOWDEN 17 Antenarrative Writing—Tracing and Representing Living Stories 284 KENNETH MØLBJERG JØRGENSEN 18 Tales of Merger Survivors 298 DANIEL DAUBER AND GERHARD FINK PART IV National and Globalizing Antenarratives Introduction to Part IV 315 19 Storytelling Narrative Marginality—On Becoming a Global Human 317 JEFF LEINAWEAVER 20 The Rhetoric of Toxic Assets: An Antenarrative Analysis 334 WILLIAM L. SMITH AND DAVID M. BOJE 21 Well-Timed Stories: Rhetorical Kairos and Antenarrative Theory 347 RICHARD HERDER 22 The Evolutive and Interactive Actor Polygon in the Theater of Organizations 366 HENRI SAVALL, VÉRONIQUE ZARDET, AND MICHEL PÉRON Postscript—An Antenarrative Theory of Socioeconomic in Intervention Research 383 DAVID M. BOJE Contributors 393 Index 403 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dboje (talk • contribs) 15:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

The article was deleted as a recreation of an article that had undergone a deletion discussion wherein the community had determined by consensus that it did not meet criteria for inclusion (from what I've read the main arguments are that it consists of original research). If you believe the AfD closure was in error, you can take it to deletion review, however given your strong conflict of interest as the proposer of the theory, and the near unanimity in both decisions to delete, I don't believe you will have much success in having the deletion overturned. If the theory is truly notable, an uninvolved editor will eventually create an article on it. Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 15:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Deleted Freeman's

Ponyo- I understand that the Freeman's page looked perhaps like advertisement. But the foundation was being laid for a more significant article. Additionally, all the things in that article were legitimate claims (freeman's IS America's oldest auction house).. and the services they provide are ones that people request information about frequently. All "editorial" or "Subjective" claims in the article were sourced from external authors and publications.

Please un-delete the article! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoehillenmeyer (talk • contribs) 17:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Do you have the full name of the article? I will need that in order to pull up the deleted copy to review the content. A concern I have without having to read the deleted content is your words "the services they provide are ones that people request information about frequently" - I assume you are affiliated with Freeman's? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

The Defiled page deleted on 18th Feb 2011

Hi, I was about to create a page for the band The Defiled as surprisingly there wasn't one and they have a large following.

I then saw you had deleted one that seems to be about them.

I wondered if I could use this as a starting point and also what it was about the article that you thought was advertising.

I didn't write it but wanted to make sure why so I don't do the same.

Mindy2k (talk) 22:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

The article was certainly promotional in nature and consisted solely of what appeared to be original research. There was not a single source included in the article that could be used to confirm that the band is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. If you are unassociated with the band, believe that they meet notability criteria, and are able to create a neutral article, then please feel free to do so. You could work on it in your user space (example: User:Mindy2k/The Defiled) and move it to mainspace when you're satisfied with it. If you do choose to create the article yourself, I'd be happy to review it for you before you move it to article space if you'd like.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Herzog and Burden of Dreams

Hey JP. I remember from your RFA you mentioning that you are a Werner fan. Me too. I just rewatched Burden of Dreams, the doc about the making of Fitzcarraldo. It is truly amazing what the man went through to get the film made. I don't think there is any other filmmaker who pursues his dreams with such dedication. I'd like to expand our stub article for B.o.D., hopefully 5X so it can go up on DYK. I've copied the stub over to my userspace: User:The Interior/Under Construction/Burden of Dreams, and put a few links to some good sources on the talk page. I'm going to tinker away at it for the next week or two, if you'd like to help, please do. (If you haven't seen the film yet, you simply gotta. I think there's a copy at the VPL). Anyways, hope you're well, looks like you're having fun in the CSD trenches! The Interior (Talk) 02:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Burden of Dreams is fantastic - good on you for having a go at it. I'll bookmark the page and help out if I can. Fitzcarraldo (my dear Fitzie) is so amazing, as is Aguirre. If someone made me choose my favourite between the two of them it would truly be a case of Sophie's Choice. The CSD trenches are never-ending - I cannot believe the amount of copyrighted material that is added to this place on an hourly basis. Instead of a mop, they should have handed me a shovel (dig a ditch...fill it in...dig a ditch...fill it in). Cheers for the note, and good luck with the expansion! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:15, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

suma bhattacharya

why suma bhattacharya has been deleted, it is one of actress page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncmahesh (talk • contribs) 03:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

The article was deleted under A7 deletion criteria as no significance or importance was asserted. It essentially consisted of one non-neutral sentence about her having a "nice smile", and then a filmography consisting of a single role. If you would like to create an article on this actress, please read WP:ENT as it contains the criteria entertainers need to meet in order to have a Wikipedia article. Please ensure you include reliable, independent sources to allow for verification that the information in the article is accurate.Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 03:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Deleted article

I recently wrote an article on the band Random Encounter (Random Encounter (band)) which was deleted due to lacking information as to the importance/significance of the band. I did find a few links which were not directly affiliated with the band, but if that does not sufficiently assert their significance, then I can understand not recreating the article.

• http://joinedatthestitch.com/blog/?p=963
• http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jonklement/2011/02/04/show-53-the-musical-talents-of-random-encounter
• http://www.animecons.com/guests/bio.shtml/2768/Random_Encounter
• http://www.amazon.com/Random-Encounter/dp/B003B4G8P

• http://www.last.fm/music/Random+Encounter

—Onomatopoeiaieopotamono (talk) 03:38, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Onomatopoeiaieopotamono

Blogs are generally not considered reliable sources, so it's best not to link to them. What you could do is read through WP:MUSICBIO which lists the notability criteria for musicians and bands. If you believe that Random Encounter meets the criteria, then you could start an article in your userspace, working on solidifying the notability criteria, then move it in to article space when you are satisfied with it. If there is no significant independent coverage on the band yet, it may be that it is simply too soon for an article. "Not now" does not have to mean "not ever", so I hope you are not too discouraged by the speedy deletion of the article.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 03:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Bird Wings Beat website removed from Mason Jennings article

Ponyo: Can you please let me know why you deleted the link to my Mason Jennings site "Bird Wings Beat" from the Mason Jennings article? As stated in the Discussion for the page, I'm familiar with #11 of WP:LINKSTOAVOID, but I believe the site is still important to include on the article because it provides resources unavailable elsewhere (specifically, complete lyrics and discography). I don't want to reinstate the link immediately, I'd like to get your input first. I am the creator and maintainer of the site in question, but receive no money from the site (there are no ads or sponsorship) and have no incentive for reinstating the link besides serving people interested in Mason Jennings. Thanks, Reefdog (talk) 18:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Please do not reinsert the fansite link - it does not meet the external link criteria and, as the creator of the site it is a distinct conflict of interest to include it. I appreciate you checking first, and you can always request a third opinion if you believe that it really needs to be included. A quick question - do you have the correct permissions in place with regard to displaying the lyrics on your website? If not, we definitely cannot link to your website as Wikipedia has strict restrictions in that regard.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:36, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. It's not terribly important to me to have the link, I just think it's a useful item for visitors to the page. I'll request a third opinion if I am able to find the time, thanks for sharing that option with me. As for the lyrics, I'm not aware of any legal issues with displaying them. Mason thanked me by name and included the birdwingsbeat.com URL on the liner notes for his latest album, specifically thanking me for hosting lyrics to older songs that he had actually forgotten about, so I'm quite certain we're in the clear. :) Reefdog (talk) 22:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Underwater Otter

Please delete User:Sir Mr. Mo Gooder/Silly Mongoose too, as it's part of the MFD. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Done. Are these pages any relation to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Otter line, or are you Otter-hunting today? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't look deleted to me. And no, they're not related to otter line. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 20:26, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

How strange - 'tis a red link now though. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Natasha wheat

HELLO Ponyo!

All of the references on this article post-date the speedy deletion debate that led to the last article being removed. There were no reliable references in the previous article that established notability, and now there are many that establish notability, including a numerous Museum exhibitions, interviews in significant news-sites/newspapers (all from within the last year-after the previous deletion). Hamnrye (talk) 18:34, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Hamnrye

Speedy deletion nomination of Natasha Wheat

Notability has been established, which was the main problem with the previous articles under this name.

--Ottersowls (talk) 18:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)Ottersowls

about aashish patidar article has been delete

how m i create the any information about aashish patidar. because i want to tell something about aashish patidar. i know this person is a mango man.

plz give me the feedback..??

Aashishpaatidaar 16:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)aashish patidar— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aashishpaatidaar (talk • contribs) 16:42, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I have explained to you on your talk page that you should not be creating autobiographies. If you meet notability criteria for inclusion, an uninvolved editor will eventually create the article. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:57, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

GOTChA Chart A3 note

Hey, just a friendly note, but I restored GOTChA Chart as a contested prod. You deleted a later revision as A3, but there were past revisions which had some substantive content (notable or not). Just giving you a heads up. Have a nice day. Protonk (talk) 22:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, cheers for the note. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Alfred Hochstrasser

Hello, I am Alfred Hochstrasser and I am the owner of the page from which you asserted the wikipedia page for Alfred Hochstrasser was violating copyright. I am trying to grant permission to Wikipedia to use information from my bibliographical page here http://www.musicbeast.com/us/alfred but as the article is already deleted I am not sure where to make this change. Can you help? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soulcraftnyc (talk • contribs) 00:40, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

OTRS permission verified. Ponyo, I've restored the article and tagged the talk page as so, however, I haven't really evaluated the notability of the subject, only the release of the text. Courcelles 06:22, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Courcelles. I've reviewed and wikified the article slightly and tagged for independent sources to help determine notability. I've also left a note with Soulcraftnyc regarding COI guidelines. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:12, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

BLP Categories

Please do not add religion, ethnic, or descent categories to biography articles as you did at Rasim Tagirbekov without first ensuring that 1) the category is supported by sourced article content and 2) the individual identifies as such. Please see WP:EGRS and WP:BLPCAT for additional information.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 15:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Rasim Tagirbekov is of Dagestani descent and lot of people etc Mesut Özil, Xavi Hernandez, Mario Balotelli has theirs ethnic categories. Why i can't add Rasim's ethnic category page in his information? Can you explain me because i didn't understand why you are warning me. --Gökhan Tığ^{User_talk:Gokhantig} 08:58, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

In order to add ethnic categories to biography articles the category must be supported by relibale sources. There are no such sources in the Tagirbebov article. With regard to the other articles you mention, well, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. A quick look though the examples you provided shows multiple sources supporting the categories in the Özil and Mario Balotelli articles and the Hernandez article does not list any descent categories at all. I provided the relevant links with regard to categorizing biography subjects by ethnicity (WP:BLPCAT and WP:EGRS) which clearly state that if the ethnic category is not supported by reliable sources, it should not be included. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:04, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

simply existing...?

So to exist is not enough. I understand. There are people that are consuming my energy drink everyday all over the world. I just sent an extremely large order into South America. People may want to know the FACTS about my product. They want to know what is in my product that many are consuming. There are 42 energy drinks listed at the bottom of the page of "Dark Dog Energy Drink", but You are giving me grief on trying to create a page of my own?

rexhymen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rexhymen (talk • contribs) 20:49, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not a venue for you to provide your customers with facts and ingredient lists. There are many websites that you can use to promote your products, however Wikipedia is not one of them. Good luck with your company. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:55, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Question about page you rightfully deleted

Ponyo, I appreciate you deleting the personal attacks against me and my wife this week. Many people reached out to me when the page was discovered and clearly you saw it fit to be removed. However, when I goggled it today, the page is still up. Here is the URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Munson?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Clearly if you go to Wikipedia the page shows the deletion. What is the link above? I don’t understand the last part regarding a twitterfeed. Your insight would be very useful. Also, I would like to formally request the email or IP address of the someone called “Petey Parrot” that I have been told posted this slander. My IT want it for our blacklist. This ordeal has affected not just me, but my wife. She has a small child and this has caused significant stress in her life. Lee Munson 14:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC) lee@[redacted]

Firstly, I've suppressed this post you made to remove your IP and e-mail address (will copy to your e-mail). Unless you want this public you should probably register an account.

Don't worry about the Twitter bits - it's just Twitter's way of informing a site of the source of the traffic, and isn't used by Wikipedia, nor does it affect the content you get back (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Munson returns the same).

On the IP address of the user account that edited your article, I'm afraid that the privacy policy and policy about the tool precludes me from releasing that. The user has been warned not to make such edits ever again by Ponyo (and hasn't edited since).

The Google cache should clear soon for you - it has already cleared from my end of Google's servers.

Hope this helps.

James F. (talk) 16:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

• If you have serious issue with content a user has added about you and you want details about the user the best place to ask for details about the user is the Wikipedia Foundation - contact us. Off2riorob (talk) 16:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Bert Oliva

After a request on the Help Desk, I went ahead and moved Bert oliva to Bert Oliva. Any suggestions on the page other than having someone other than having some other than User:Ltothej write it? Also, any clue how many times he's tried to start it?Naraht (talk) 20:34, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh my, it still reads as a terribly promotional article. From what I can piece together of the history the article has been deleted 6 times previously (between 2007 and now). Ltothej has only created it twice. The best way forward for the article to be kept would be for a willing editor to move it to their user subpage where they could work on building a neutral article as notability criteria appears to be met. It could then be moved to main article space. If it was moved back with reliable sources and neutral wording it could avoid any further deletions. It looks like you're willing to clean it up - good luck! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:55, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

I'll give it a try, we'll see if he comes back with anything. It looks *rather* thin to me right now. I'm going off of Tony Robbins as a guide for categories. But given the fact that he's got edits that are nothing but adding mentions of Mr. Oliva in various places, I'm not feeling it that much.Naraht (talk) 21:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

This Providence Journal article may help if you're looking for a reliable independent source to add. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:52, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

creating Wikipedia page for Masaokis, YouTube content creator

Hi, I created a Wikipedia page for Masaokis (youtube content creator) and noticed it was immediately deleted. I wanted to check in on this since i felt Masaokis is a YouTube content creator of interest and has profiles up on Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=masaokis) among other sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnBLea (talk • contribs) 21:38, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

In order to have an a Wikipedia article, individuals need to meet general notability (or this set of criteria for entertainers). Being a youtube content creator does not automatically confer notability (there are millions of youtube content creator and contributors). What you need to do if you create an article is to show how Masaokis meets the notability criteria I've linked to above through the use of reliable independent sources. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:04, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

About David Duchovny's grandparents being Ukrainian... The references

http://ukrainianguide.com/3-discoveries-of-ukrainian-roots/ http://yqyq.net/53230-ZHizn_i_tvorchestvo_Devida_Duhovny.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuriybaliuk (talk • contribs) 08:36, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Mistake?

Shouldn't have been. I nominated it for deletion. Rusted AutoParts (talk)15:51 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Bravo

--charmedandblessed 21:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)Let us spreading peace--charmedandblessed 21:51, 15 March 2011

Can I help you with something?--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:12, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

You had the right to delete my page Template:DO NOT DELETE THIS PAGE but I kindly ask you email me a copy of the original page, as it appeared to [redacted].

For what purpose? There is no salvageable content as the page was incorrectly used as part of your experiment. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:23, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Because (a) it was a social experiment, done for an organization that needs to verify the content (b) I would like it for my personal portfolio (c) I can use it to help train people on the internet, part of my job (d) you should have saved a copy, as you deleted it, and therefore I would be greatful if you emailed it to me. There should be no problem with that RDN1F (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Please enable email for your account and I can send a copy through. Please do not use Wikipedia for any future "experiments". --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Job Done. Send it. Please. Now.

You need to update your preferences to allow emails. Click on your 'My Preferences' link and under the section 'email options' check "Enable e-mail from other users". Once this is done I can send you the information. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:48, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

done and done — Preceding unsigned comment added by RDN1F (talk • contribs) 20:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

The email has been sent per your request. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:58, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

La Florida (park)

Hi,

I am taking a second look at this db-nocontext I raised - here - on what at the time was an article of two words "Florida park" and wondering about the claim that this was too bitey. You later validly declined the speedy on the basis of the improvements that were made and I wondered if you had any thoughts about tagging an article so early after creation even if it does fit the criteria? The reason I'm asking is that I notice similar articles frequently in IGLOO, which by their nature have only been just created, and perhaps I might be better off just consistently skipping them or tagging with weaker improvement notices rather than jumping to speedy. Cheers Fæ (talk) 23:20, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I notice that My76Strat has just pursued the matter at RFA from their discussion and has made it a case for a formal question after I made the above note. I'll understand if you prefer not to reply to my original question. Thanks Fæ (talk) 23:27, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

At WP:CSD#A3 it suggests "though there is no set time requirement, a ten-minute delay before tagging under this criterion is suggested as good practice"; that being said it is only mentioned in a footnote and not immediately obvious. Perhaps you could just skip these types in IGLOO altogether and let them be picked up by later patrols? I think its a relatively minor issue, your good work far supercedes an honest mistake. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

editing an article so that I have a working document

Hello,

I have been trying to work on editing an article on Rudi Bass. I put in my working article and it is edited in some form not giving me a chance to finish what I have started. If I do this in my area (MrsHayward) area as a working document will people have access to it? It was an unfortunate by working title to call it "Personal Life", perhaps "Creative Life"?

I am struggling a bit with getting the references to link, and to cite external links (if relevant). I know there are help pages, but I find they are less than easy to find and sometimes a bit difficult to follow. I really need a working area to get my head around this. An example of one of my problems is the reference to the work Rudi contributed to the American Church in Paris which is shown on their web page - is this a legitmate refernce and how do I make it?

I see from looking around Wikipedia others are having the same problem.

Any advice, support is appreciated.

Thank you so much, Mrs Hayward MrsHayward (talk) 15:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

If you would like to make a "working space" for the information you have, you can create a subpage of your userpage (you can click this line and hit 'save page': User:MrsHayward/Rudi Bass). With regard to referencing, Wikipedia:Citation templates lists the majority of possible templates. As the page can be overwhelming you could just bookmark the ones most useful to you. I find I use Template:Cite book, Template:Cite journal, Template:Cite web, and Template:Cite news most often. Note that you do not need to enter all of the fields in order for the template to work, just use the ones you have information for. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:09, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Bryan Park (Miami)

Please look at Talk:Neighborhoods of Miami : I don't understand this list. Companys, including florida.hometownlocator.com and city-data.com, created a bunch of articles on wikipedia to sell real estate - such as the article Bryan Park (Miami). There is no such neighborhood. It's just a few blocks being given a label. If you look at My Contributions you can see I am a serious editor and am not fooling around here. We need this article deleted. Please go back and delete the article. GroveGuy (talk) 20:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I never doubted that you made the nominations in good faith, they simply don't meet G11 criteria. I was also able to find online sources using the names of the areas. The editor who created the article Beverly Terrace, User:Averette, is a veteran editor who has over 15,000 edits to Wikipedia - I am sure he is not here simply to spam the encyclopedia. If you believe notability is a concern you can send the articles to WP:AfD, however they are not speedy deletable. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:00, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I left Averette a message on his talk page two days ago. He must be taking a break. I'll see if I can get some administrator to help me and I'll look at WP:AfD.GroveGuy (talk) 21:20, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

What would you like another administrator to help you with? Setting up AfDs for the articles? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:15, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

I talked to an administrator who told me my G11's would be rejected. And he said WP:AfD would take a long time - for each article. He's now trying "Proposed Deletion" in Bryan Park. For the others, we're just deleting them from the template. This will let this junk just hang out there unseen, clogging up Wikipedia. See: Talk:Neighborhoods of Miami. Thanks anyway. GroveGuy (talk) 06:24, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Datari Turner

Thanks for the Barnstar. It was a pretty crappy article, and personally I am very sick of the subject after all of that research. However, I wasn't able to find an AfD, and I figured it had probably gone through the CSD process a couple of times. The subject is (barely) notable, and I managed to get over my bias of his PR rep to put something workable up. I will watch to prevent future abuses.

Good working with you, look forward to more in the future. Ng.j (talk) 18:41, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

You certainly deserve the barnstar. I was kicking around the idea of editing the article myself, but wanted to ensure there had not been a previous AfD first, so kudos to you for jumping in, rolling up your sleeves, and just getting it done. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:45, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

PhostrEx

There is an anonymous db-spam tag on an article I created in 2007. Would you mind taking a look at it? I have added some refs and I think it is fine now, but a third-party opinion is probably best. Ng.j (talk) 18:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

I read through the article and it certainly does not meet the G11 criteria for speedy deletion. I've removed the tag and directed the editor to take the article to AfD if they have additional concerns. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:05, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy declined

Hi, thanks for letting me know about the declined speedy of Geng Yan. However, I didn't add the speedy tag to the article. I was merely restoring a speedy template removed by the article creator :O — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 19:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I was using an automated program that notified you in error - I've removed the notice from your page. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:27, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

No worries, mate! Out of curiosity, what program are you using? I haven't heard of one that automatically notifies users of declined speedies. Anyways, happy editing! :) — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 03:07, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I have this script loaded in my monobook.js. I generally don't use it unless it's a pretty basic decline or switch to PROD. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 03:24, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Haha, cool! Thanks for telling me :) — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 05:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Help me template

Thanks for helping. Yea...I thought it might show up somewhere and the best way to find out where was to be bold and let it go!. Im one of the Wikipedia:Wiki Guides and I am working and molding and formulating some new initial contact processes. Normally I have only been reaching out to IP's when the edit articles on my watchlist and show some potential to open an account What I wanted to do was just to show the new editor where the "help me" window was. Any ideas? Thanks againBuster Seven Talk 15:38, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Do you have access to the template code? You just need to add 'tl' to the wikilink in order for it to display correctly as Gfoley4 did here. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 15:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Alyssa Shouse

In response to your performance of the deletion of the article entitled "Alyssa Shouse", what exactly do you refer to when you state "Does not point out the significance of the subject?" what do you mean by significane? I stated clearly that she has become widely famous across America & the rest of the world and that she is a pop star working with Jason Derulo, a widely recognized american musical artist? I am not debating your actions but I am just in wonder of what I did wrong and would like to know how I can make articles in a correct fashion that will not result in their deletion.

thank you

yours sincerely, Dean Mullen.

In order to have a Wikipedia article individuals must meet specific notability criteria (the criteria for musicians is outlined at WP:MUSICBIO). Although you may be a fan of Alyssa Shouse, having a youtube following is a claim that can be made from myriad people on the internet and none of them would be notable for an article either. Being associated with Jason Derulo certainly does not confer notability either, as notability is not inherited - in nutshell: simply being associated with someone notable does not make oneself notable. Please read through the WP:MUSICBIO link and if you believe you could update the article to meet any of the criteria I will be happy to move the article to your userspace where you can work on it before moving it back to article space. Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

You deleted a page I wrote: Butterflies

Dear Ponyo,

I noticed that you deleted a page I wrote about Alana Lee's song "Butterflies". I have read your reasons for deletion and I have not found any reason why the page should have been removed. You might have seen that I did not quote any sources - you would be wrong in assuming that this was because there were not any! I used the ARK Music Factory website and starcasm.net, as well as my own observations on the number of views on YouTube videos; I think you will agree that there is nothing unreliable about these sources. I write Wikipedia articles because I am committed to adding to the sum of human knowledge. With Rebecca Black's song Friday being so topical in the digital world this very moment, it is a true fact that Alana Lee's Butterflies has become far more popular than it initially was and is notable by any definition of the word. I ask you to restore the article so that my hard work in research and my time do not go to waste, and so that the world can always turn to Wikipedia as a source for knowledge. Thank you for reading this message, and I hope you can reply soon.

MikeyMikey667 (talk) 21:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy to hear that you are excited about contributing to Wikipedia, however there are notability criteria that must be met in order to have an article. Specifically, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and any information added to it must demonstrate its importance for inclusion. Regarding the sources you listed as having used, the ARK Music Factory website is affiliated with the subject, starcasm.net does not meet any reliability criteria, and your own observations are considered original research and cannot be used. What you would need to include in the article in order to satisfy notability criteria would be reliable, independent sources that have covered Alana Lee's song in a way that show it meets WP:SONG. If you would like I can move the article to your userspace and you can work on adding sources there, or I can email you a copy of the deleted article so you can work on it independently. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:59, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for your swift reply. I would very much appreciate the article being moved to my userspace.

MikeyMikey667 (talk) 08:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks to all...

...who have helped revert a recent spate of vandalism on my userpage. Much appreciated!--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Removal of site Anexas

Dear Sir, We had a site called Anexas, and our organization is well known in India and has served more than 20,000 inidividuals and 100 organizations. You had removed that site citing certain reasons, which are not true. We request you to upload this site. Regards Amitabh [redacted] Amitabh th (talk) 20:00, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

The article was deleted as being overly-promotional, which I confirmed upon review. The article consisted of marketing jargon without actually explaining why it is notable. This is understandable as the fact that you are affiliated with the company creates a conflict of interest wherein it becomes difficult to edit an article in a neutral fashion. Example promotional phrases included:

• "bringing together bright and young enthusiastic entrepreneurial minds"
• "a group of enthusiasts who went on to become first time entrepreneurs after working with major multinational corporations worldwide"

Please read WP:ORG as it lists the notability criteria required for an organization to have an article on Wikipedia. If you believe that Anexas meets the criteria I would suggest adding it to Wikipedia:Requested articles where an interested and neutral editor can eventually create an article on the subject. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:16, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Tdt3d

Can you please explain me why you delete my page ? I don't make copyright mistakes...I have all the rights about this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rango3d (talk • contribs) 16:01, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

The explanation can be found in reading the information provided on your talk page; I understand it's a lot of information, but it is all pertinent and important for you to read through it. The article was originally tagged for deletion under the A7 criteria for deletion - specifically the article did not explain why the company is unique or notable. WP:ORG lists the notability criteria a company is required to meet before it can have an article. In addition (and even more importantly), the article contained a copyright violation in that it copied text verbatim from this website. We cannot host any copyrighted material on Wikipedia without ensuring it has the appropriate permissions. Instructions on how to provide the necessary permissions are available in the message on your talk page (see also: Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials). Note that even if you do provide the permissions, you must still meet the notability criteria in order to have an article. Please also be aware that there are guidelines regarding editing articles with which you have a conflict of interest - so please read the information in that link as well to ensure you understand the importance of neutrality when editing. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:18, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

But I do not use any copyright violation... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rango3d (talk • contribs) 16:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

The tdt3d.be website is protected by copyright; scroll down to the bottom of the webpage - it clearly displays a copyright notice and states "All rights reserved". You cannot cut and paste information from that website without providing Wikipedia with the necessary permissions. As there are legal implications involved we must have explicit permission in order to use the material. Again - please read WP:COPYRIGHT, WP:COPYPASTE, and WP:Donating copyrighted materials. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:59, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Culture_of_Scotland/Comments

Hi Ponyo. What exactly is a Comments page on a Talk page? You don't see too many of those. The one good edit was made in 2006, and it probably belonged on the Talk page itself, rather than on the Talk/Comments page. And 5 years later, the main article has 21 references. So what is the purpose of keeping this Talk/Comments page? There has been a problem with Talk/Comments pages on British topics attracting sockpuppets. That is my reason for tidying up here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Rosanacurso/Archive

Thanks.

Logical Cowboy (talk) 17:27, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

The decline was procedural only - you had marked it as a G2 test page, but as it contained a comment it did indeed have a purpose at some point in time or another. Maybe stick a PROD template on it? I can't find any CSD category that would cover the deletion of the page. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:36, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ponyo

I know you deleted the tarvin page but why its not a advertisement i have nothing to do with it whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by the im sorry that i deleted it but i will keep on doing it if you dont let have 1 page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Worldwidechris (talk • contribs) 17:37, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

A local children's football club does not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for inclusion, which is why it was deleted. If by "keep on doing it" you are stating that you will continue to recreate the page despite the fact it does not meet the criteria for inclusion, well that would be disruptive editing and could ultimately lead to a block on your account, so please do reconsider that tactic. There are plenty of things you can do on Wikipedia that would be helpful - see Wikipedia:Community portal for a break-down of different tasks and ways to help out. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

UBRz

Hey Ponyo, I'd like to ask why my friends Article about his own company (United Broken Recordz, Corp.) was deleted, it talked about multiple things that he owned, I am part of the company too, isnt a company that exists allowed its own article? Also, I do not think it is advertising, he wanted to talk about the company that he owns and let people know what they are doing and what they do... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christhecoolboy (talk • contribs) 10:18, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

In order to have an article about a company on Wikipedia, it needs to meet the notability criteria as outlined at WP:ORG. Also, it is a conflict of interest for your friend to write about his own company; it is very nearly impossible to write about the company in a truly neutral fashion when you are so close to the subject. I know that he doesn't believe the article was promotional, but "wanted to talk about the company he owns" and "letting people know what they are doing and what they do" is promotion. If the company is truly notable (in the Wikipedia sense) an uninvolved and neutral editor will eventually create an article on them. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:54, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Block evasion?

Hi, is it possible that the recent block regarding Govind Kumar Singh is being evaded? I've had a weird edit war warning from a user & that user seems only to have contributed to the same pages as the blocked user did ... plus, I wasn't warring. The diff is here and the user contribs are here. The user appears to have tried to start an SPI on me and everything, just like last time. Appreciate your thoughts etc as I am clueless in this situation. - Sitush (talk) 12:55, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

You'll notice that the user has filed an SPI, requested page protection & removed a CSD tag from an image file - all similar behaviour to the blocked user. - Sitush (talk) 13:12, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Issue resolved - it was a sock. - Sitush (talk) 15:43, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I assumed they would resort to socking, which is why I bothered to file an SPI report as opposed to just blocking them per WP:DUCK. It makes it easier now to identify and lock down any additional sock accounts that pop up. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Hillary Scott (singer) birth year

It's becoming confusing as several different sources cited at different times in the article over the past couple of months, including this, have offered conflicting information... Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 18:05, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

I've updated the source to include an interview where she states her age as 24 in 2010. Is there anything reliable outside of the LIFE picture caption for a 1984 date? It may be that the information needs to be removed and discussion started on the talk page as to how to word the apparent discrepancy in the article. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:20, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

No, nothing else reliable that I'm aware of. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

In fact, I've just found a Canadian Press article (not available online) that says she will turn 25 on April 1, 2011. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:27, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm. It's beginning to look like the LIFE clip may have been a mistake. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:04, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Accident!

From this dif it looks like you reported the right person. Even if you had reported me by accident, no worries. Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:33, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, ok!My bad!First message removed!--Damirgraffiti ☺Say Yo to Me!☺ 17:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

wrong month on vandalism warning headers

I don't know your doing intentionally, if so ignore this, but it seems your vandalism warnings are still using March 2011 section headers, should probably be April ones at this point. Monty₈₄₅ 21:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I could pretend it's a lame April Fools joke, but truth is it was just a mistake. It is of course April now, but apparently my fingers still yearn to type March. Thanks for the reminder. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 22:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Dave Hensman

Hi, a couple of months ago you put in place a PP for Dave Hensman, a consequence of some undue weight, POV-pushing additions that may also have involved socks and COI. The PP has expired and the campaign has restarted. At least one of the users - which is an SPA - has had a full set of warnings and also advice from myself and another editor regarding how to deal with the situation in a manner that might be acceptable to WP, but has today continued regardless. The warnings are spread over a period since February & so probably won't result in a block. Can it be protected again? What else could we do? I have thought of adding the info myself in a more acceptable way but, tbh, a $2,500 fine is nothing in the context where it applies & this is why I suspect POV/COI etc + don't feel confident about having it there at all, true though it may be. - Sitush (talk) 14:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

I've re-protected the article for a month in order to allow for discussion of whether the info should be included at all, and if so to what extent. As their appears to be a degree of socking and/or meat-puppeting, you may want to make a note at the BLP noticeboard where others can take a look at the situation and help come up with consensus as to how to proceed. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look at the noticeboard as you suggest + start something on the talk page. This is one of those articles where I know absolutely nothing about the subject (and have no interest in it) so anything I do is pure policy-based. - Sitush (talk) 14:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with him either, despite the fact that it appears he lives only about 30 minutes from me. The good people at BLPN will certainly be able to help you out. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Done - raised at BLPN, note linking to it on article talk page & the last contributor's talk page. I've never fully understood meatpupetting as a concept but think it is effectively when people act as a concert party. I'll read up on it.

That's a rough area of the world you live in! Major white-collar crime within 30 minutes of you <g> Me, I've only got gangs, drugs and guns to worry about ... and the so-and-so who stole my scaffolding last week (it was erected at the time!) - Sitush (talk) 15:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Somebody stole the bench from my front porch the other night. Oh well, there's no escaping it regardless of where you live I suppose.--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Ryo Nagamatsu

That article was actually deleted a while back, and since it is worse than it was before, it should qualify for speedy delete.--ThomasO1989 (talk) 23:20, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

jake t austin article edit

hey there! there are some things which are to be updated in the article of Jake T. Austin...that is: He is currently filming New Year's Eve (film) with Sophia Vergara,Abigail Breslin,Zac Efron and many others in New York.

Only information confirmed through reliable sources should be added to the article. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:56, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Article question

i was personnaly in this gang and asked a member to create a page about us. Please re display the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.160.172.172 (talk) 20:08, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I assume you're talking about "Bega streets", which contained a bunch of unsourced claims about gang activities. The article contained misinformation and was a mishmash of other gang articles. The article cannot be restored in its present state. If you are serious about creating a factual article then I would suggest using the article wizard, but read notability criteria for organizations and Wikipedia's reliable sources policy first please. Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:18, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Change of birth date for Leeanna Walsman

Just out of interest. Looking through the edit history shows that the date of birth was changed a number of times to the correct date and you reverted it back to the incorrect date, citing the lack of references. However, there was no reference cited for the original, wrong date of birth either. Is there some page on wikipedia that talks about how this kind of thing is worked out? Eg, in this case, the information on the first revision is taken as the truth until proven otherwise. Seems odd. Nevster (talk) 01:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You would be surprised at the number of birth dates that are changed on articles on my watchlist (which numbers 8500+) on a daily basis - it is a very common form of sneaky vandalism. If it becomes apparent that a date is flip-flopping (as was the case here), then it is best to remove the date/contentious info altogether until a reliable source is provided. The most important lesson to take away from this is: if you are going to add or change any existing info in a biography, ensure you include a reliable source for verification. If you're ever in doubt, leaving a note on the article talk page (as you did in this circumstance) is a great way to discuss the changes you would like to make to the article. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. --Nevster (talk) 01:42, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. I left you a welcome message on your talk page that has a lot (perhaps too much!) information with regard to editing. Hopefully you will find some of it useful, and please feel free to ask me any questions here anytime. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of my user page

Hello Ponyo

I regret to inform that you appear to have deleted my user page. Hopefully this was a mistake but it looks like it may not have been as I think you refer to the page as being a copy. It is in fact my original page with veryfiable personal information I have provided about myself.

As you can see there have been quite a lot of comments put in my user talk and as a new user I have been amazed and disappointed to find a large number of statements about me which are either rude or untrue. This really has changed my view about Wikipedia which until now I thought had high standards and was a good source of accurate information.

I have tried to reply to some of the users who often use names such as yourself to conceal their identities but although 'Vquakr?' and others sound friendly I have not received any answers to questions I have raised and I very much hope you can address this in the near future.

I hope you can re-instate my user page or help set up a Wikipedia entry for me if you still have the information - I very much appreciate positive activity rather than any destructive actions which take time to correct and are necessarily a drain on all our resources.

Thank you for your assistance

Simon Corry

Musician and Photographer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.104.95.209 (talk) 01:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

It has been explained to you that Wikipedia is not meant to be used as means of self-promotion. Period. There is nothing that I can add that has not already been detailed at User talk:VQuakr. If you are truly as notable as you believe yourself to be, then someone uninvolved will eventually create an article on you. You can always make a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles as well. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of user page

Hi Ponyo

Will you please restore my user page.

Please note all Wikipedians are invited to enter information about themselves on their user page (unlike the requirements for an article) and you have deleted personal information which was provided in good faith.

Wikipedia was invented to collate factual and verifiable information. This requires diligence and not aggression, malice or biased opinion.

If you are genuinely interested in pursuing actions which violate the purpose of Wikipedia you may care to investigate some of the previous contributors to my user page such as the comments that I have worked with Andrew Lloyd Webber which are untrue.

Please restore the accurate information if you can and this will be much appreciated.

Thank you

Simon Corry

Musician and Photographer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simon Corry (talk • contribs) 12:12, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors are invited to add information about themselves related to their Wikipedia activities, but promotional text is not allowed (see WP:UP#DELETE. You have attempted to create an article on yourself twice, and it has even gone through a deletion discussion where the community decided by unanimous consensus that the article should be deleted. Your response to that was to add the promotional information to your userpage. I can email you a copy of the deleted text if you would like, but you need to desist in your repeated attempts to promote yourself via Wikipedia. Bringing your request to multiple administrators in hopes of getting a different answer is consider forum shopping, so please don't continue to do so. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

ANI

Haha, no problems - no harm done. GiantSnowman 18:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

David Alexander (author)

Hi, I restored this article because I could only find one deletion discussion for it, from 2008. Given that said discussion is three years old and the page is substantially different, I think a new AfD would be required to re-delete it. Thanks, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Understood. Out of curiosity, did you read the article? And look at what sources are being used? I only ask as a second opinion as something strikes me as "not quite right" with the article. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 20:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know it can definitely be improved, but I've been in correspondence with the author and trying to work with him. Hopefully it'll improve; I started off about NPOV ... meh. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:15, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

It's all...wrong, especially the tenuously 'sourced' quotes from others on his work. Could he not have continued to work on it in his user space until the refs were up to par? I don't think it will survive an AfD its current state. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:23, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm still trying to figure that out, it's confusing to me, too. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 22:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

FYI: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Alexander (author) (second nomination). andy (talk) 17:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Rudi Bass

I had known Bass for many years professionally and then in his late life came to know him personally to a limited extent, although extremely remotely as we had not lived in the same country or continent since 1984. MrsHayward (talk)MrsHayward 07:28, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I've replied on the article talk page. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:06, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Carat Security Group page deletion

You are the user who deleted the above page. I have no affiliation with that page or that company. First, are you an Administrator at Wikipedia? Second, how may I view the deleted content to see what you objected to so that it is not repeated in a new article? I do not see any ready links at the page one is redirected to. Thank you. Wikiuser100 (talk) 15:32, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The article was deleted as being unambiguously promotional, which upon review it certainly was. It was full of marketing jargon and non-neutral assertions. A much more serious concern that has come to light now that I've looked at the deleted article; it was a copyright violation of http://www.caratsecurity.com/heritage.php. The text was a verbatim copy of that webpage. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 16:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

That may be so; at present I have no way of knowing. To date I've made something like 7,000 edits at Wikipedia and never run into a post-deletion situation such as this. I have no dog in the fight. I just want to know first, how to see the deleted content to understand what the problem was and use as a guide if I decide to create a new article; second, how to access the deletion discussion you refer to. At this point I can't seem to get past this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carat_security_group&action=edit&redlink=1), which does not even link to any content indicating there ever was a page to begin with. Last, are you an Administrator at Wikipedia? Thank you. Wikiuser100 (talk) 17:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

You would not be able to use the deleted article as a guide as it is a blatant copyright violation. It is an exact copy and paste of http://www.caratsecurity.com/heritage.php. If you would like to know what was in the deleted article, simply visit the website I linked to as the information is verbatim. I cannot post it anywhere on Wikipedia or repeat it in this email without introducing a copyright violation myself. As long as you are writing an article in your own words, then there should be no issue with you creating an article to replace the deleted version. And yes I am an administrator; you need to be an admin in order to delete articles. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, but zowie it's a bizarro world I've stumbled into. Pure Alice in Wonderland. One can't see what's been deleted because if it's deleted they're not allowed to see it. Some tautology. Then tautology meets the Star Chamber, as you can't see it but others have and judged that it should not be seeable. Oppositely, of course if it were seeable, then - depending entirely on what it was and why it should not be seeable - it would be seeable, and it shouldn't be seen. Jeeze. A copyright violation I can see, but taken to extreme it's a mighty letter of the law defense. Such things, however, don't matter as all violations are violations and red kings and black queens should all take one step back. So, if I understand it I can't see the article as deleted, or access the deletion discussion, copyright violations, mind, or Wikipedia no-can-do's. But I can start from scratch. Right, then. Thank you. Wikiuser100 (talk) 18:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

There was no deletion discussion. The article was created in a single cut and paste move, someone from New Page Patrol reviewed the article and tagged it for speedy deletion as overly promotional, I reviewed the article and agreed with the editor who tagged it for deletion, and it was deleted as such. There is no problem at all with you starting a new article on the same subject, good luck and happy editing! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

BTW, lest there be any confusion there is nothing Wikipedia needs more than a dedicated 24/7 deletionist. So be aware your efforts are richly appreciated. I'm just dumbfounded at the rabbit hole I've stumbled into. Wikiuser100 (talk)

I'm hardly a 24/7 deletionist. I remove CSD tags from articles that can be saved and have created articles myself (there is a list on my user page). Once again, good luck with the article. Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your support. 24/7 would be OK with me. New Carat Security Group page created. Please let me know what you think...and by all means advise me before (if) there will be a recurrance of Mr. Speedy Deleter. I cannot see that there should be. Regards. Wikiuser100 (talk) 20:44, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Cool Interview

You should listen to this if you have time, Werner yukking it up with Cormac McCarthy and physicist Lawrence Krauss: [1] The Interior (Talk) 20:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the link; now I can't wait to see Cave of Forgotten Dreams!--Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 15:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Help Requested

I asking for your help as I see you have dealt with the user Rusted AutoParts before. Earlier this week, I discovered many factual errors in the deaths section on the page 1994 in film. Most of the names in the deaths table were of people who actually died in 2010, not 1994. I cleaned up the table, deleted all the names that didn't belong and started adding names of actual people who died in 1994. User Rusted AutoParts keeps reverting my changes claiming he is in charge of editing the page and this is the way he does it. This seems crazy to me, as purposely posting false information on a page goes against everything Wikipedia stands for. The false data he is placing there isn't just there for a few moments but for days at a time while he edits the page. This is also going on for other "year in film" pages. I want to correct this and get all the false info removed, but it is just resulting in an edit war. I put a not on his user page, which he deleted, and one on the talk page for "1994 in film", which will also probably get deleted. What should the next step be? I appreciate any help or advice you can provide. Thanks. BurienBomber (talk) 23:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The edits certainly don't appear to be entirely helpful, and they do have a history of edit-warring. It appears another editor has given them a 3RR warning, so perhaps it will die down now. I won't be online much today, so if Rusted AutoParts does persist in returning the page to their own preferred and incorrect version despite your beginning dialogue on the article talk page, I would suggest putting together a 3rr report. Even if he hasn't technically violated 3rr, some admins there will block him on the basis of edit-warring without the three reverts in 24 hours present. Drop me a note if you do file a report and I will take another look for you. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:56, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Watch out about 3RR!

Hi, Ponyo! I tried to help out a bit with that Sylvester Stallone revert business and was about to submit a 3RR Noticeboard request against the IP to have him edit-blocked for a while when I noticed you had done four reverts today, so I decided to stop rather than call attention to the situation. Be careful not to let an anonymous account push you over the 3RR limit so you get slapped with an edit block.

This following pretty much describes it:

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get all dirty AND THE PIG LIKES IT!

Take care! — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 22:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

The article is a target for drive-by vandalism, which this appeared to be. Per WP:VANDTYPES, blanking of sourced content without explanation and when the reason is not readily apparent can be considered vandalism. Once the IP began a discourse on their talk page I left their edits in place and tried to engage them further on both their talk and at BLPN, unfortunately they no longer seem willing to discuss the matter. The article is protected now in order to allow for discussion, so we'll see how it all turns out. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

You're absolutely correct. I hope you don't think I was complaining or "warning" you--I was only trying to help out a bit. — UncleBubba ^{( T @ C )} 23:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

No worries, and thank you for following up on the BLPN report. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 23:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

IP as well?

Hi there, I see that you blocked Riansmith2011 (talk · contribs) as a sock and deleted the articles they created. Would it be worthwhile blocking the current IP of the user, which is pretty obviously 90.218.208.176 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)? I honestly don't know if it would do any good, but thought you may like to know. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing it to my attention Jenks24. I've included the info in a CU request and will see what develops. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 17:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for passing it on to the relevant place. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 17:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

My talk page

What have you done to my talk page please? Seesawmajorydoor (talk) 18:18, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I've removed your threat to report anyone who used your talk page to the police and the fake block notice you posted. Please read WP:UPNOT for information as to what is not an acceptable use of a user talk page. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:30, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Pending changes question on Tim Westwood

In reply to User_talk:Xionbox#Pending_changes_question

Dear Ponyo,

To be honest, I hesitated before accepting these changes, mainly because of the removal of cn tag. Finally, I accepted to change because specific detail was added and the tag was several month old (sept. 2010). I though a source added since may have referenced this passage. Mistakenly though, I did not check nor the history neither the references for the exactitude of the added information.

Thank you for correcting my mishap.

Xionbox^₪ 05:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

One of the main purposes of pending changes on BLPs, aside from screening out pure vandalism, is to ensure that information added to the article is accurate. If there is an attempt to add information without including a source for verification, or removal of templates that identify valid problems with the article, the change should be rejected. If you are ever uncertain about the validity of a pending change, then it's best to simply skip it and allow another editor to review. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Simon Corry user page

Hello Ponyo

Thank you again for your interest in my autobiographical entry. As you can see although not a skilled Wikipedia user I am a perfectionist and like to follow up all comments in detail responding to as many users as possible who open a debate. You are right in that I would have hoped for a better outcome but my main concern is to maintain the integrity of information that is placed in a public arena on a respected internet site.

I disagree on the issue of self promotion as without that concern much of Wikipedia would probably not have been created. Many friends and people with vested interests in subjects have created fine articles. I think Wikipedia and it's users would be better to admit that. It would become transparent and more valuable as a result.

However I am always interested in working within existing frameworks and respecting traditions and I am sorry if my edits have given an impression that was not the case. The reason I moved deleted content back to my user page was because I wanted to save valuable information that had taken time to prepare and Vquakr kindly suggested this on my talk page. I believe there are various ways of compiling information on a user page to allow an autobiography.

Yours sincerely

Simon Corry

Musician and PhotographerSimon Corry (talk) 10:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

You have every right to disagree wit Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, however as they were put in place via community consensus, then community consensus would need to shift in order to change them. There are ways of compiling information on a userpage that allows other editors to know more about you, but this is meant to be correlated to your activities on Wikipedia. Your sole purpose on Wikipedia has been to promote yourself, the sole purpose of having autobiographical information on your userpage would be self-promotional as well. I'm concerned by how rigorously you are pursuing this attempt at creating a page on yourself, whether in article or userspace, despite it being explained to you repeatedly why such content is being deleted. Content deleted via deletion discussion and repeatedly deleted as promotional should not be hosted in userspace, so please desist in trying to do so. I know this has been explained to you many times, but if you are notable enough for a Wikipedia article, someone without a conflict of interest will eventually create an article on you. Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 13:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of simon corry user page

Hello Ponyo

Than you for your reply and also thank you for offering to email me the lost copy.

Regards

Simon Corry

Musician and PhotographerSimon Corry (talk) 21:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)