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May 1st?

I mean, I don't know exactly when he was killed, but judging from the local time here (EST), I'm guessing he was killed in the early morning, so shouldn't it be the 2nd instead of the 1st? Bmecoli (talk) 04:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unconfirmed

This death can't be confirmed yet, even if the US President declares it. I'd suggest adding more "supposedly" to this events that are present in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.160.173.137 (talk) 03:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC) It was confirmed by DNA evidence. He was killed earlier in the week. Speculation is that it was a headshot by JOC forces. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin-laden-killed/story?id=13505703[reply]

Delete????

Come on you guys - Are you really saying that this article deserves to be deleted? I think that it is pretty apparent that there will soon be plenty of material to use to populate this article. KConWiki (talk) 03:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to afd after everything cools down--Guerillero | My Talk 03:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is already getting worldwide attention plus the section on the main page of Osama bin laden about his death rumors and such can easily be merged here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is plenty of space in the original article on Osama bin Laden. I seconded PROD. This article is premature and unnecessary.--Cerejota (talk) 03:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is no sense in deleting the article. It is just going to be re-created within an hour at most. (Sk5893 (talk) 03:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]
I agree, there will be lots of research and analysis into this death. It will balloon to many pages within a week
Agreed, this article will be written over and over again. Do not delete and lets focus on expanding it. Iksnyrk (talk) 03:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Surely the suggestions that this article should be deleted are not being taken seriously. Articles such as Death of Adolf Hitler, Assassination of Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy assassination, Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, Shooting of the Romanov family and Assassination of James A. Garfield are definitely appropriate, and apparently so is Death of Michael Jackson, so this page certainly should remain.LanternLight (talk) 04:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, I wrote this article, you guys are extremely nice. You made my...well...night :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.31.102 (talk) 03:58, 2 May 2011 (UTC) No need for delete, this is an article that within the next few days will rival the main Osama article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leroyjabari (talkcontribs) 04:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been edited exactly 136 times since 03:08 UTC; that is, in 1 hour 6 minutes. Chzz  ►  04:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(reply:) So? I don't care. I honestly think no one cares. and seriously..... whats your point? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.31.102 (talkcontribs) 04:30, 2 May 2011
Heya. a) please put your comments at the end of the section, b) please "sign" with ~~~~ (to put your username and date/time) (reply:) 1: im REPLYING 2: i wrote a quick comment, as i had to check on an update 3: i will not type tildes for signing, i dont have enough time for you.
My comment was mostly 'out of interest', but I wish that, instead of arguing about merger, deletion, protection, or whatever else we could just get on with making the article better. Best,  Chzz  ►  04:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC) (reply:) okay thank you for your comment.[reply]

Merge

No need to merge as this will become a big enough topic in itself. Already it passes WP:GNG with the amount of news stories around. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article now locked

Why? 86.147.217.101 (talk) 03:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To stop anonymous users from vandalizing.--RaptorHunter (talk) 03:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Because of the crazy amount of vandalism and unhelpful edits. Sorry if this prevents you from adding to the article, but you can make an edit request here on the talk page. Nolelover It's almost football season! 03:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please unlock it, no evidence of vandalism so far. We could really use crowdsourced writing right now. People from all over the world are coming here for information. Can you only lock it if there is evidence of vandalism? --86.147.217.101 (talk) 03:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's already been vandalized. Sorry. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 03:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think many people will have information that isn't easily obtainable on hundreds of news reports Terlob (talk) 04:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do! I work for the SIS... but I guess that would be OR.

--86.147.217.101 (talk) 04:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand ...

Talk:Osama bin Laden's death doesn't even have any content ... can someone redirect it to this topic ? (reply:) it has content now.Ta --195.137.93.171 (talk) 03:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

done--RaptorHunter (talk) 03:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Previous death reports

The below text is from the main Osama bin Laden article, and some of it could be merged into this article. I'm leaving it here on the talk page for now. --Aude (talk) 03:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. I was about to do the same. :) -Abhishikt 04:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Text

Extended content
December 2001 Quoting an unnamed Taliban official, the Pakistan Observer reported that Bin Laden died of untreated lung complications and was buried in an unmarked grave in Tora Bora on December 15.[1] This report was picked up by Fox News in the United States on December 26.[2] Also on December 26, the Egyptian newspaper AlWafd - Daily carried a short obituary by a prominent official of the Afghan Taliban, who was allegedly present at the funeral, stating Bin Laden had been buried on or about December 13:[3]

"(Osama bin Laden) suffered serious complications and died a natural, quiet death. He was buried in Tora Bora, a funeral attended by 30 Al Qaeda fighters, close members of his family and friends from the Taliban. By the Wahhabi tradition, no mark was left on the grave"

A videotape was released on December 27 showing a gaunt, unwell Bin Laden, prompting an unnamed White House aide to comment that it could have been made shortly before his death.[1] On CNN, Dr Sanjay Gupta commented that Bin Laden's left arm never moved during the video, suggesting a recent stroke and possibly a symptom of kidney failure.[4] According to Pakistani President Musharraf, Bin Laden required two dialysis machines, which also suggests kidney failure.[5] "I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a... kidney patient," Musharraf said.[5] If Bin Laden suffered kidney failure, he would require a sterile environment, electricity, and continuous attention by a team of specialists, Gupta said.[4] In April 2002, U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld stated, "We have heard neither hide nor hair of him since, oh, about December in terms of anything hard."[6] FBI Counterterrorism chief Dale Watson and President Karzai of Afghanistan also expressed the opinion that Bin Laden probably died at this time.[7][8]

October 2002: In a CNN interview, Afghan President Hamid Karzai stated that "I would come to believe that [bin Laden] probably is dead."[9]

April 2005: The Sydney Morning Herald stated "Dr Clive Williams, director of terrorism studies at the Australian National University, says documents provided by an Indian colleague suggested bin Laden died of massive organ failure in April last year ... 'It's hard to prove or disprove these things because there hasn't really been anything that allows you to make a judgment one way or the other,' Dr. Williams said."[10]

Late 2005 CIA disbands "Bin Laden Issue Station" codenamed "Alec Station", the CIA's bin Laden tracking unit, 1996–2005[11]

September 2006: On September 23, 2006, the French newspaper L'Est Républicain quoted a report from the French secret service (Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure, DGSE) stating that Osama bin Laden had died in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, after contracting a case of typhoid fever that paralyzed his lower limbs.[12] According to the newspaper, Saudi security services first heard of bin Laden's alleged death on September 4, 2006.[13][14][15] The alleged death was reported by the Saudi Arabian secret service to its government, which reported it to the French secret service. The French defense minister Michèle Alliot-Marie expressed her regret that the report had been published while French President Jacques Chirac declared that bin Laden's death had not been confirmed.[16] American authorities also cannot confirm reports of bin Laden's death,[17] with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice saying only, "No comment, and no knowledge."[18] Later, CNN's Nic Robertson said that he had received confirmation from an anonymous Saudi source that the Saudi intelligence community has known for a while that bin Laden has a water-borne illness, but that he had heard no reports that it was specifically typhoid or that he had died.[19]

November 2007: In an interview with political interviewer David Frost taken on November 2, 2007, the Pakistani politician and Pakistan Peoples Party leader Benazir Bhutto claimed that bin Laden had been murdered by Omar Sheikh. During her answer to a question pertaining to the identities of those who had previously attempted her own assassination, Bhutto named Sheikh as a possible suspect while referring to him as "the man who murdered Osama bin Laden." Despite the weight of such a statement, neither Bhutto nor Frost attempted to clarify it during the remainder of the interview.[20] Omar Chatriwala, a journalist for Al Jazeera English, claims that he chose not to pursue the story at the time because he believes Bhutto misspoke, meaning to say Sheikh murdered Daniel Pearl and not Osama Bin Laden.[21] The BBC drew criticism when it rebroadcast the Frost/Bhutto interview on its website, but edited out Bhutto's statement regarding Osama Bin Laden. Later the BBC apologized and replaced the edited version with the complete interview.[22] In October 2007, Bhutto stated in an interview that she would cooperate with the American military in targeting Osama bin Laden.[23]

March 2009: In an essay published in The American Spectator in March 2009, international relations professor Angelo Codevilla of Boston University argued that Osama bin Laden had been dead for many years.[24]

April 2009: During an interview with the Telegraph, Pakistan's President Asif Ali Zardari raised the prospect that Osama bin Laden could be dead after he said that intelligence officials could find "no trace" of the al-Qaeda chief. Mr Zardari's predecessor, Pervez Musharraf, similarly suggested that the Saudi terror chief could be dead. Additionally, Pakistan's intelligence agencies also believe Osama bin Laden may be dead.[25]

October 2009: An article in the British tabloid Daily Mail points out that the theory that Bin Laden died in 2001 "is gaining credence among political commentators, respected academics and even terror experts" and notes that the mounting evidence that supports the claim makes the theory "worthy of examination".[3]

Merge (actual proposal)

Per Wikipedia:Content_forking#Redundant_content_forks this is pointless. Until there is enough written information to justify forking out the content from the Osama article, this should be a redirect to the Death section to concentrate effort there. No need for X of Y when Y isn't a very complete article. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 03:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict):But when Y is more significant and notable than X it deserves it's own article instead of one sentence in the article about X yes? Barts1a | Talk to me | Yell at me 03:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying it only deserves a sentence. It deserves a lot! But the rest of the Osama article could use love, and this is a perfect time for that. Y is significant because of the actions of X. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 04:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Give it time already please, people are so eager to zap this article into dust. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Because its a redundant content fork of an article that isn't big enough to warrant splitting off sections of it into seperate articles. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 04:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This article is going to explode with details, international reactions, operation information, etc. Keep--do not merge! --Another Believer (Talk) 03:58, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right, and when it does, and its too big to fit in Osama's article, we can split it out. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 12:02 am, Today (UTC−4)
Get real. It's already linked to on the Main Page. It's not going anywhere. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The link is easy to change. Stop being condescending. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 04:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Then start being serious. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Osama bin laden article is currently at 90,000KB per Wikipedia:Article size articles should be split at 100,000KB+, this article will meake headlines, WP:CRYSTAL does not apply given it's notability. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am, and I have provided written guidelines accepted by years of consensus. You are shooting nonesense at me. The primary article, Osama Bin Laden, is not large enough to justify splitting sections out, at all. There are 34151 characters of prose, and that is what is counted, not the pure article size (which includes the citation templates, amongst other things) - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 04:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IAR Barts1a | Talk to me | Yell at me 04:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC) Restoring my deleted comment [reply]

Thats meant to be accompanied by some reasoning. So far nothing has addressed the redundant content fork issue. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 04:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well consensus so far here is against you, I would wait and see what happens in this case, articles can always be merged back and nothing needs to be set in stone. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd give it longer than 20 minutes to decide a consensus (unlike the afd discussion). Wait for a day until the rest of the world hears the news. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 04:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Few More Sources

--TripleU (talk) 04:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

US Navy Seals

CNN just reported it was helicopter raid by the US Navy Seals. Will try to find an actual source somewhere. Iksnyrk (talk) 04:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added this to the article citing the ABC News report I'm listening to hear at the house. When it gets to a published source then we can swtich out the source I gave for a more reliable source. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CNN reported the SEALs were "involved". Rklawton (talk) 04:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bin Laden's dead body in grubby US hands

Does anyone know why America is holding Bin Laden's body in their possession? Are they going to play with it? What the hell are they doing with his body? (reply:) please use appropriate language at wikipedia.

Probably preparing it for a suitable funeral. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC) (reply:) he doesn't need a funeral.[reply]
They need to show the world the evidence. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In this context, "hands" isn't necessarily used literally: it could mean that the body is guarded by US soldiers, but it likely doesn't mean that the soldiers are carrying it around with their bare hands, whether grubby or not. Nyttend (talk) 04:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I heard that the US was going to make a statue of the body in one newspaper article. Is this true or is this some kind of practical joke? If it's true can anyone direct me to a reliable source?

they took the body to do DNA testing and possibly take pictures to show the world, they will then most likely do to the body what they do to any executed criminal

If his family wants the body, it will probably be turned over to them in a few days. Cla68 (talk) 04:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Who cares what the family wants. If it were up to me, I'd shred it and feed it to wild pigs - ensuring that he would never go to his Muslim paradise74.100.60.53 (talk)

Add "Operation Red Dawn" to "See also"

Add "Operation Red Dawn" to "See also."

Original Research tag

I removed an original research tag as I really can't see anyway that applies to the current article. Anyone want to point out specific sections? --Banana (talk) 04:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just wait for the dust to settle and in a few days this article will be completely rewritten.--RaptorHunter (talk) 04:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
People need to know that the editing pace of this article right now is fast, give time for people to place in references already! - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Text of President Obama's speech

Below is the text of President Obama's speech. The source is: Osama Bin Laden Dead, Obama Announces. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]


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Good evening. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who’s responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory -- hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.

And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child’s embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.

On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, what God we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.

We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda -- an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against al Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we’ve made great strides in that effort. We’ve disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.

Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, al Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.

And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

For over two decades, bin Laden has been al Qaeda’s leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al Qaeda.

Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There’s no doubt that al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must –- and we will -- remain vigilant at home and abroad.

As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not –- and never will be -– at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who’s been gravely wounded.

So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al Qaeda’s terror: Justice has been done.

Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who’ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.

And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today’s achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it’s the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.

Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.

Original Research

Contrary to Stephen Colbert and general opinion[citation needed], you cant just say anything you want in wikipedia. Not only do we have to source, but we can't perform original research or even create novel synthesis. Even if you, in your hearts of hearts, know something to be true, it is not enough for inclusion. Verifiability, not truth is your guide.

Specifically, references to rumors, must themselves be sourced to reliable sources. So please refrain from posting whatever you just heard on tv or read on the internet unless you willing to source it.--Cerejota (talk) 04:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop removing fact tags and OR tag unless you fix the sourcing. Otherwise, we should remove all OR text.--Cerejota (talk) 04:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looking back through the history, I came across a few puzzling edits by User:Intoronto1125.

Is this the kind of editing that Wikipedia accepts? My best guess is that user is editing old versions of this article which clobber more recent changes, but that doesn't explain the sober/silver typo. In my opinion, the user should be immediately banned from damaging this article any further. --beefyt (talk) 04:58, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents if you feel it needs to be addressed. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 05:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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