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Slovak entry

The fact, that there was no Slovak contest this year and the representing song of Slovakia was chosen by a jury should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.40.81.166 (talk) 14:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not here, but every country has their own yearly page. See: Slovakia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 14:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

spain broadcast

tve will broadcast,as always does, the semifinals and final show live on TVE internacional too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.84.90.39 (talk) 07:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcasters of the Eurovision Song Contest: Azerbaijan + Turkey+Russia

Azerbaijan: ITV{Ictimal Televizyasi) Turkey: Finals will be at TRT-1 and TRT-Int(international channel)...not sure about semi-final, will inform as soon it will be announced. TRT has many channels, so can be at any of them. Russia: Again, finals at Channel 1. Cant say for certain if semis will be there, but I assume so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJSurvivor-1907 (talk • contribs) 17:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcast in the UK

In the United Kingdom, BBC Radio 2 will also be broadcasting the final —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.13.20.203 (talk) 18:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thanks. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 19:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Greek tv

In Greece,the national broadcaster NET would broadcast both semi-finals and final

http://tvradio.ert.gr/search.asp 22:00 http://tvradio.ert.gr/search.asp 22:00 and the final at 22:00 I saw it on TELETEXT but i have no source 

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.12.156.37 (talk) 21:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spokesperson

Safura is spokeperson from Azerbaijan and Odetta Moro-Figurska from Poland—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.219.205.127 (talk)

Please provide a source for these claims, and then they can be added to the article. By the way, you were right the first time on the spelling - spokesperson is correct (plural: spokespersons). CT Cooper · talk 15:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish broadcasting

Hey, just to update on my previous posts.

Eurovision Song Contest 2011 will be shown at TRT-1. Both of semi-finals will be broadcasted also at TRT-1. All broadcasts are live.

Simultaneously broadcasting will be done at TRT-HD, available at Digiturk and D-Smart.

Also live Eurovision will be broadcast at TRT affiliate channel TRT-Avaz. TRT-Avaz is a channel which focuses at culture and attempts to bring together all of the Turkic nations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJSurvivor-1907 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Preceding unsigned comment added by DJSurvivor-1907 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 5 May 2011 (CET) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJSurvivor-1907 (talk • contribs)

Broadcasting & Commentary in Poland

The 1st semi-final & final will be broadcast live on TVP1, TVP Polonia and TVP HD. The 2nd semi-final will be broadcast highlights on TVP1. Artur Orzech will comment this Eurovision.--188.47.93.67 (talk) 12:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We can't add anything about broadcasting, spokesperons or commentators without a good reference!! --Redpower94 (talk) 12:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here come good references from TVP website. Schedule for Tuesday http://www.tvp.pl/program-telewizyjny?offset=1&ch1=155691&ch2=1729&ch3=1773 The 1st semi-final on TVP1, TVP HD and TVP Polonia. Schedule for Wednesday http://www.tvp.pl/program-telewizyjny?offset=2&ch1=155691&ch2=1729&ch3=1773 Highlights at 15.15 on TVP1. Schedule for Saturday http://www.tvp.pl/program-telewizyjny?offset=5&ch1=155691&ch2=1729&ch3=1773 The final on TVP1, TVP HD and TVP Polonia. Beware as these links will expire tomorrow. Just change date on website. --Pataczek (talk) 19:42, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commentary in Romania

Liana Stanciu & Bogdan Pavlică —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luc.matei (talk • contribs) 22:45, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The final voting order

Anyone knows when NDR/EBU will realise the voting order in the final? It is extremely surprising that they have not revealed it yet. /Hollac16 (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The running order for the final will be released following first semi-final with its finalists and then rest 10 spots will be released after second semi-final. To my knowledge(plz, change info if I am wrong)the spots will be given from total points of performance which been collected during the semi-final joining of juries and televoting votes. Since those results and names of singers who will qualify to final could not be find out before semis, the results are not released. Same procedure has been done last year and previous year.

Preceding unsigned comment added by DJSurvivor-1907, 18:40, 9th May (CET)

According to the official website the order has changed for this year and has not been released yet--MSalmon (talk) 10:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adding broadcasting details

I have added the brodcast details for Switzerland and Austria. I have no idea how to reference them, for the moment they are there, better than nothing and might help someone like others helped me when trying to find where I could see the show. I have a paper program for these, but can find links for each. But how do you create a reference? Dollvalley (talk) 18:56, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semi finals score

When will the scores of the semi-finals would be available?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.4.176.195 (talk) 02:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probably right after the final (saturday). They don't officially announce it before then. :) - Jetro (talk) 07:29, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

russia isnt singing only in english

though what language they start in is a mystery to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 (talk) 12:29, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checked lyrics for Russian songs. All of it is in English. I quess, accent might had confused you)--DJSurvivor-1907 (talk) 16:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Russian song at the start was definitely not in English in the first Semi. It sounded like Russian. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 17:23, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it's definitely not English. I'm listening to the song right now. –anemoneprojectors– 15:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a Russian-speaker I can say that he was pronouncing some words, which were not Russian words, but some absurd, sounding like Russian words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.248.242 (talk) 11:14, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Henrydegraaf, 11 May 2011

The Netherlands is not mentioned at the list of broadcastings. It should say: The Netherlands – The first, the second semi-final and the final will be broadcast on NED 1 by the TROS. Henrydegraaf (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide a source for this? Thanks. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 18:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What about this [1] from the original nl page here? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:07, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That will do, thanks! Will add it now. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 21:16, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which countries are not participating?

There is a map showing which countries are not participating this year, however, there is no text saying which ones they are, so I don't think everyone knows all the countries in this part of the world by heart. Why isn't there a mention on them? Dollvalley (talk) 09:59, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article is only about the 2011 Contest. If there are sources about proposed participation by a country specific to this year which didn't go ahead, then it probably should be mentioned. General lists of countries which are not participating were included in the year articles in the past, however they were discontinued must because they were repetitive (e.g. Vatican City had to be re-listed every year), and there were difficulties and controversies (e.g. Kosovo) in determining which countries should be included. List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest, which contains multiple lists on the issue, and Template:Eurovision countries, which lists all current and past participants, is more appropriate for such content. CT Cooper · talk 12:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well I think it's such a small list that it doesn't hurt anyone and avoids going to look for it elsewhere. If it's on the main ESC page, I didn't find it, and honestly it's annoying having to go look for it in such lenghty articles, that's why it should be included and it's not the same every time. Morover,they are clearly stated in the map in a different color, having a legend is only logical. Also, Kosovo? They never participated. We don't care about countries that have never been part of the show. Dollvalley (talk) 22:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest is of a sensible length and within the Wikipedia:Article size guidelines, so I see no issue there. Mass duplicating content in many articles when it is well covered in one, List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest, wastes editors time and Wikipedia's resources. To be fundamental about it, this article is supposed be a general introduction to the 2011 Eurovision Song Contest, primarily of prose (not lists), based on information given from sources specifically about the 2011 Contest. Within this spirit of this, countries which did participate are obviously included because they are discussed by sources for the 2011 Contest. Furthermore, as I said earlier countries which did not participate but there was significant coverage of them from sources for the 2011 Contest can be discussed in prose. This is an objective, and hence neutral, determination of what and should not be included in the article. A non-participants lists would have to subjective criteria on what is included (who's "we"?), and would often require use of multiple sources to determine a country's eligibility many of which would be non-specific to the 2011 Contest, which would arguably overly drift from the purpose of the article. The compatibility of such a list with the Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policies could arguably be questioned as well, given that the list would be based on editor's research and opinions on who the "non-participants" are, rather than a straight reporting of what sources say. CT Cooper · talk 22:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Bluearmygr, 12 May 2011

There is no MACEDONIA country!! It is called FYROM.. also no Macedonian language! Macedonia is a part of Greece

Bluearmygr (talk) 19:12, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the answer to FAQ question four (see the top of this page), which goes into detail on why the country is referred to as Macedonia in Eurovision articles. CT Cooper · talk 21:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcasting section

I don't think this section is necessary at all. Isn't it obvious that the broadcaster for each country will be the one broadcasting the event? On the pages for past years, this section was to describe which countries could view the contest though they were not participating. Grk1011 (talk) 21:17, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it's necessary. Not every country broadcasts the event, and guess what, every country usually has more than one channel/broadcaster, and some broadcasters are not even part of the EBU. You should then say the same for the commentators and spokespersons, who cares about those? Or which broadcasters did so in High Definition? Why remove it, it's very helpful.Dollvalley (talk) 22:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you look back at present and past discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision, you will find that Grk1011 has said similar things about commentators and spokespersons. The argument that content should be kept because it is "helpful" or "useful" is not a strong one on Wikipedia as many things which are not appropriate for an encyclopaedia may considered "helpful" or "useful" by editors and readers - see WP:ITSUSEFUL. Content should be kept based on whether it is appropriate for an encyclopaedic article, and do have some sympathy for the case that they are not, at least in their present form. Firstly, many of these entries are unsourced, which is a violation of the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy, and in the case on content of living people, a violation of the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy. Secondly, they are full of abbreviations of broadcasters which a general audience (which is what the article is supposed to be aimed at) will find difficult to understand, particularly when no link is provided, and is essentially "Eurovision jargon". WP:MOSABBR says that abbreviations should be specified in full on first use, which I have tried to enforce on this article in the past but given up with for the moment given the sheer number of abbreviations. To be fair these issue are fixable, but I do wonder if commentators and spokespersons should be given their own separate list article for each year, and a case could also be made for one central list article for broadcasters. CT Cooper · talk 23:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, most entries are sourced. I actually asked HERE how you create references for the two i added because I don't know how to, and nobody replied. Also, if you have a look at most tv shows, they have sections showing what channels across the world broadcast them. I've never seen any complaints against them. There are only 7 entries that are not sourced, so it's not that many, and two of them are mine, and if you tell me how to, I can source them. Most entries have links to wiki pages of those broadcasters (only four of them are abbreviations with no links, that's not a lot or many as you say). Isn't that the correct way? Also, it should be taken into consideration that you cannot find everything on the internet. Some sourcing cannot be done elecronically. Also, for example, I can find the links to a tv program, but it will be useless a month's time because the sites do not keep old tv programs online. So if in one month's time the link is useless, does it mean the mention in the article has to be removed? If so, wikipedia would be empty. And what does the biography of living or dead people have to do in this matter? I don't understand. Dollvalley (talk) 23:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CITE and WP:CITET provide details on how to source content. This page can get a lot of traffic and only a few editors actually monitor the talk page, so some comments will be missed. Please note that this talk page is primarily for discussing improvements to the article, not asking for help on using Wikipedia, please see the Wikipedia:Help desk for that, which is much better monitored. No, just linking abbreviations is not the correct way, as WP:MOSABBR makes clear. Explaining the link in text rather than forcing the reader to switch page is a good idea, even if there have been no complaints (though I know they have been - mostly because I myself have complained about it in the past). Sources do not have to be online - please read fully Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources which goes into detail on the purpose of sources and what can be sourced. Sources can be from books, newspapers, TV, films and many other media. Dead links are an issue on Wikipedia, but still resolvable - see WP:DEADLINK. CT Cooper · talk 23:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To answer the two questions you added from your original post. I didn't give a number of abbreviations, and I said "they are full of abbreviations of broadcasters", not "they are full of abbreviations of broadcasters without links". I referenced the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (WP:BLP) policy because the commentators and spokespersons sections, which were mentioned, concern living people. Such content is highly sensitive on Wikipedia and it is especially important that such content is sourced, as the WP:BLP policy explains. CT Cooper · talk 23:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism of the article

some person added sweden under english translation for popular. the article is semi protected so i cant correct it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.86.142 (talk) 21:21, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some one must have already reverted it because it is not there --MSalmon (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2011 (UTC) i can see that. it doesnt change the fact that it was there.[reply]

"Grapic design" section

The section headed "Graphic design" has no citations. The way it is written, it is not relevant to the broader subject of the entire article. If, after research has been done, the topic seems like it should be included in the article, it needs to be drastically re-written. [I apologize for breaking any wiki protocol—I tried to brush up as best I could and will continue to learn, so unless I did something hideous, please don't point out that I messed up in my posting manners.)Hipvicar (talk) 05:49, 13 May 2011 (UTC)hipvicar[reply]

I agree that the lack of references is a concern, and perhaps it should be removed for the time being until references are provided. CT Cooper · talk 21:44, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Rafcat, 13 May 2011

The spokesperson for Russia is Dima Bilan Rafcat (talk) 23:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to have already been added to the article. CT Cooper · talk 11:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Croatian broadcasting

In Croatia, 1&2 halffinals and finals will be (were) broadcast on HRT 1 (Croatian Radiotelevision). This is link to saturday's schedule: http://raspored.hrt.hr/?raspored=1&mreza=2&datum=2011-05-14. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.147.99.132 (talk) 23:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Mattiiscool, 14 May 2011

Slovenia - Andrej Hofer

Mattiiscool (talk) 19:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Stickee (talk) 04:55, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

vote presenter from Slovakia

If I'm not mistaken her name was Marina Petrova, but nowhere seems to be any info about her, anyone to clear this out? Rolton (talk) 22:04, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's Martina and I'm not sure about surname (can't find her on the internet).

Update posting!

Jesus christ people, preview before posting. I know it is nice to be quick and fresh and first with the updates but it's very unprofessional when you mess up the results table with every bloody edit! --Lead holder (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Winning song of previous year prominently in opener

I don't understand why the opening paragraph of every year's article should feature the last winner so prominently. The song has pretty much no importance during the show even though it's the reason the show is in that country. More emphasis should be put on the winning song of that year. Also, wasn't the winner simply billed as Lena? Why is her full name used everywhere on this article? Dollvalley (talk) 23:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About the latter question: it is somewhat difficult to ascertain the "correct" name. While she competed twice in the ESC simply under the moniker "Lena", in Germany she is just as well known under the full name "Lena Meyer-Landrut". Since the records are also published under only "Lena", though, it may be correct to reduce the name in this article. --Ulkomaalainen (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Irish spokesperon

The Irish spokesperson was Derek Mooney —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimJayuu (talk • contribs) 23:24, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch spokeperson

The name of Daniël Dekker is wrong written, because when writing Daniel it's not the good dutch pronounce, please change it! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.203.192 (talk) 23:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More Results

I'm working on the results by country, using the same format from the 2010 page, in my userspace. Please let me do the table work (I'll be copying it straight into this article when I'm done for whoever wishes to work on it for enhancements), but you may comment either in the comments section there (please use a section edit instead of a full page edit, it prevents edit conflicts) or simply on my talk page. I may call it quits before I finish as it's getting late here, in which case I'll finish in the morning my time. Note that the "countries giving 12 points" will not be touched until I finish the chart, then I'll use the chart as a reference and bold the 12 points entries in the chart at that time (while working on inputting the results it's easier if I don't bold them right now). The letters are my own tool to help me edit easily; for my purpose, I know I'm on country O (15th one voting) as I type, and so on. I have to add a few columns to reach 43 countries, I'll get to that. CycloneGU (talk) 05:42, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update: almost done, about eight countries left to add results for. I'll finish and transfer sometime after I wake up, shouldn't take too long as I'm in the last 20 minutes now of the show. CycloneGU (talk) 07:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Theodorian, 15 May 2011

Add Cyprus Commendators as Melina Karageorgiou (Μελίνα Καραγεωργίου) Site for referece: http://www.onlycy.com/κύπρος-απόψε-β-ημιτελικός-eurovision Thank you Theodorian (talk) 08:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Theodorian, 15 May 2011

Broadcasting of Cyprus. CyBC (PIK) Source and site reference: http://www.onlycy.com/κύπρος-απόψε-β-ημιτελικός-eurovision

Theodorian (talk) 08:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

German broadcasting of 1st semifinal

The 1st semifinal was broadcasted live also by EinsFestival (ARD), parallel to ProSieben. -- 46.115.1.52 (talk) 15:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request of the Table of the Final

Can someone build a table with all the scores of the Final? Thanks --Antonio Alvigi (talk) 15:48, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cost of the event

Does anyone have some serious figures how expensive the event really was? Or are they kept secret? 50TYeV (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ranking

hey...shouldn't Turkey have a higher ranking than Albania, and Slovakia than Bulgaria because the formers have more 12pts given to them than the latters?? Please check also for others that tied. --Ja 1207 (talk) 16:16, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

TV ratings and number of votes

would be a nice add. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 16:41, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Finals Added

That was a lot of work, but it's done. =) One comment, however. In music tables, when a cell would be blank or empty, we use a long hyphen "—" in that cell (see for example Kenny Rogers discography or Britney Spears discography for applications of this). I've done the same for the finals here, as well as including an X where a country's voting column crosses its' participants. What are others' thoughts of copying this into the SF tables as well? I thought this was reasonable; it certainly helped me while working on the table, as 43 countries is a lot to work through! =) CycloneGU (talk) 17:11, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your diligent work! I however, for one, don't think the hyphens and X's are necessary at all. Compared to the final scoreboards in articles about previous years' contests, the added symbols make the table a lot more confusing and unclear. In cells where no points were given, I'd just say we should leave them blank. Off-the-air (talk) 22:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edit: Ah, now that was quick, ey! Off-the-air (talk) 22:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Point made and I'll accept that. However, I have issues with the rearrangement of the horizontal layout. I think it really should be, for this and previous years, in the order the votes were presented on the telecast. Also, someone in the edit history noted an error in the table; there were no errors in my version of the table, so I feel that someone literally just copied over my twice-checked and fully accurate work using the format they preferred. CycloneGU (talk) 02:40, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jury Spokepersons?

Why is section with spokepersons called "Jury Spokepersons"? They have nothing to do with jury, they annouce final results.--89.173.20.32 (talk) 08:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed this. CT Cooper · talk 14:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Split Jury/Televote

When will EBU release the split jury and televotes??? CoolAbc (talk) 11:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They don't (see scoreboards for information) --MSalmon (talk) 14:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
They do, in 2009 the split results were released 2½ months after the final, with last years released a whole month after the final. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 18:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sweden

Sweden gave 7 points to Finland in Final. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.223.140.48 (talk) 04:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Numbers in Finals table are incorrect

Just checked the row and column sums, which indicate that there are errors. Sweden column is missing 7 and 8. Estonia column has two 8's. Greece column has two 7's. Serbia column has two 7's. Netherlands has no 4 but two 5's. Macedonia column is missing 8.

Denamrk total is 7 more than the value in the "Total Score" column. Romania total is 1 more than the value in the "Total Score" column. Serbia total is 8 less than the value in the "Total Score" column.

I haven't checked the other tables.

Ok, it should be all ok now, I have checked what you have given and updated as necessary --MSalmon (talk) 18:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Wabberjockey, 16 May 2011

There are errors in the voting table for the final. As a crosscheck ensure that all columns add up to 58. Caused by data transcription errors on transfer from the Eurovision website cited already. The first 3 are the result of simple leftwards shifts in three adjacent columns. 1) Correct voting for Sweden: 7 votes to Finland and 8 to Bosnia and Hercegovina. (No entry for 7 and 8 votes appears now) 2) Correct voting for Estonia: no votes to Bosnia and Herzegovina. (Double entry for 8 votes). 3) Correct voting for Greece: no votes to Finland. (Double entry for 7 votes). 4) Correct voting for Serbia: no votes to Denmark. (Double entry for 7 votes). 5) Correct voting for Netherlands: 4 votes to Romania not 5. (Double entry for 5 votes). 6) Correct voting for Macedonia: 8 votes to Serbia. (Missing entry for 8 votes).

Wabberjockey (talk) 18:56, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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