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Your DYK article Billfish

In your DYK article Billfish there is a problem. The first citation, which supports your hook, earns a 404. You might want to fix this. GroveGuy (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the link. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Billfish

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Thank you

Lighthouse Award
Billfish and other ocean-related articles you've worked on are a pleasure to read. Thank you for improving this part of the encyclopedia. Steven Walling • talk 18:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And thank you too Steven for your kindness --Epipelagic (talk) 07:39, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Mackerel

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Hey

Saw your brief posts at Courcelles' (currently a mess) talk page, realized I knew you and decided to say hi. It was a pleasure meeting you last year at the meetup, and keep up the keeping-the-place-coherent. sonia (talk) 10:26, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you're still around Sonia.--Epipelagic (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Epipelagic

Just a brief tip of the hat toward you: it's not often I see a comment that actually has some poetic imagery within it, but I stumbled across this of yours on (I think) some dog-forsaken admin/complaint post:

The light is seriously dimming now on Wikipedia, as continued attacks against the remaining core talents succeed. Neither Anthony nor Malleus deserve this absurd intervention, just because they interacted robustly. Soon we will just have block-obsessed admins strutting the empty halls, admiring the trim on their fingernails. --Epipelagic (talk) 06:08, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I do think that this actually very good: '...strutting the empty halls, admiring the trim on their fingernails.' Anyway, it made my day. (And I've recently had a similar Kafka-esque experience with ill-founded code-flinging and ongoing accusations, etc...)

Regards, Rivercard (talk) 13:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
ps - also love the Douglas Adams 'puddle' quote.

Yep, the puddle that is Wikipedia seems to be drying up as well. --Epipelagic (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help in identifying the fishes

Hello. I came to you because I noticed you are a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Fishes and primarily edit fish-related articles. I have taken some photos of marine fishes near rivermouth in Digha, India. Here are the photos - Type 1 and Type 2. I cannot identify the fishes, but I need to know their names. Could you identify those fishes? --SupernovaExplosion Talk 01:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Sardines in popular culture - video games

I couldn't help but notice you failed to include a section I added in the article Sardine when you redirected the greater half of the article to Sardine (food). Is there any particular reason why you decided to include the popular culture reference, or was that just absent mindedness? (with no disrespect intended) Orpherebus (talk) 04:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry. I agree it belongs more to the forked article. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
On second thoughts I've removed it, since sardines appear to be at most peripheral to the game, and not central. The article on the game doesn't even mention sardines or pilchards, or fish of any sort at all for that matter! --Epipelagic (talk) 04:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
They are not pivotal to the plot, but they are mentioned in numerous locations throughout the game! Since I’ve actually played the game and you’re going off an article that hasn’t even got the voice actors listed, you’re better off listening to me than reading that.

The point is, if we can mention Coca-Cola’s advertisements in Blade Runner, which just appear in fleeting scenes, why can’t we mention the obsession with sardines the main character has of Disgaea 4? He even mentions them in the skits prior to every chapter of the game. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXT3ZiSa3R4) For the sake of a preventing an edit war I won't revert your reversion of my reversion, but please do revert your reversion of my reversion of your reversion. Orpherebus (talk) 00:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Not my thing, but it does get a lot of Google hits. I've reinstated it. Please see if you can now cite your contribution with a reliable source. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:39, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for hearing me out. I'll see if I can find a source that backs up the contribution. Orpherebus (talk) 08:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Herring vs. Clupea interwiki

Hi, thanks for your comments on herring iw-links here, and apologies for the possible confusion. The removal of links was however not a wholesale reversion, but based on the consideration of the contents of the articles, just as you recommend - which I also tried to indicate in the edit summary. My conclusion was and is different however: the foreign language articles we are discussing are specifically about the taxa Clupea or Clupea harengus, and they should indeed be specifically linked to from the corresponding English taxonomical entries Clupea or Atlantic herring, with the corresponding taxoboxes, not from herring. Only the Nedersaksisch article does not have taxobox, but evidently represents the same series and exclusively deals with Clupea. iw-links should be unique and reciprocal: we should not link to the same article from both Clupea and Herring (see below).

More generally (1) It is rather peculiar to the English Wikipedia to have broad biological articles on a word/concept with an incoherent or vague taxonomic definition, such as herring, in parallel with the actual taxonomical (“encyclopedic”) articles; such "non-standard" definitions necessarily lead to problems with iw-links also. ["Salmon" and "trout" seem to make exceptions to this though; notably the corresponding foreign articles mostly do not have taxoboxes, or have taxoboxes that clearly indicate the systematic incoherence]. (2) iw-links in general should be unambiguous, as far as possible (i.e., reciprocal, unique). Only then bots can maintain them (now the reciprocal links to English Clupea/Herring are mostly misdirected after your re-definitions of the terms, and should all be manually corrected: logically that should have been your task?) Scientific taxonomy (as described in the taxoboxes) is the very method of unambiguous matching the meaning of these concepts over language barriers in the world of biology, and we should use it for that purpose here. Olaff (talk) 17:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Responded here --Epipelagic (talk) 05:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

deletion of content

I'm sorry, but I am only deleting information that people do not need to know, if you wish to keep sensitive information out there go ahead, just know that you are endangering U.S. personnel and defenses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.200.43.132 (talk) 03:36, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But this is already public information. If it still bothers you, then please discuss it further on the talk page of the article, not here. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

it is definitely not public information, you people are making it open...

Re: Vandalism warning to Jacksonriley0706 @ Cutthroat trout

Hi Epipelagic. I was looking through my watchlist when I spotted your warning left for Jacksonriley0706 about his edit on the Cutthroat trout article - a level 3 warning no less. Looking at his edit, I can clearly see that what this guy did was by no means vandalism, and was actually improving the article by adding an IUCN Vulnerability/Threat to Species chart, which indicated that the species is Vulnerable. Accordingly, and assuming good faith in that this may have been a mistake, I've reverted your edit back to Jacksonriley0706's, and will remove the warnings left on the user's page. Thank you. MarkBurberry32|talk 23:00, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To the contrary, the IUCN have not assessed cutthroat trout as being vulnerable at all. In fact, their concerns about cutthroat trout are so minimal that they have not even bothered to assess the species at all. Prior to that edit, Jacksonriley had made a similar false entry concerning rainbow trout. It is clear that he was just making thing up, off the top of his head, and entering false information. At the very least, he did not exercise due diligence and research whether his additions were in fact true. Adding false information of that type to Wikipedia is a particularly obnoxious and damaging behaviour, which is why I raised the second warning to level 3, something I rarely do.
You should now examine your own behaviour. If you are going to reinstate incorrect information, without exercising due diligence, and then attack the editor who cleaned it up in the first place, then it raises issues about what you think you are actually doing here. To avoid being guilty of vandalism yourself you should now revert your reversions. You should remove the incorrect information you are now responsible for on the cutthroat trout article, and reinstate the vandalism template which you so rudely and peremptorily removed prior to consulting me. --Epipelagic (talk) 02:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looking more closely at the cutthroat trout article, I can see how Jacksonriley might have made a good faith error, because several subspecies of this trout have been designated as "threatened" by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. However, this is not the same as his claim that the species as a whole has been classified as vulnerable by the IUCN. Still, because of this circumstance, instead of reinstalling the vandalism template on his page, you could just leave him a note drawing his attention to this confusion. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. I assumed good faith, despite not appearing to do so, and I apologise if my message to you was inappropriate or considered by yourself as an attack - this was not my intention in any way at all, and I certainly apologise for removing your warning without prior consultation. I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, and would hate to tread where I shouldn't, despite picking up the wiki fairly fast. I would like to make this up to you by way of this apology, and accordingly have undone my edits to the Cutthroat trout article back to your version. I will leave the note you suggested at Jacksonriley0706's talk page, and would hope that my treading on your toes does not sour any future work I do here :) Regard, MarkBurberry32|talk 23:39, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's a handsome response, and I apologise too for being a bit tetchy:) --Epipelagic (talk) 01:35, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

sustainable Seafood

Thank you for your comments and assistance to my student who was working on the sustainable seafood page. It is final exam week and her project is over, but I have encouraged her to continue to clean up the article and find other sources to improve the article. I appreciate your thoughtful, welcoming comments to her. Would you like to grade some projects? ;) Waterbug42 (talk) 20:16, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to help out with specific issues related to marine biology, but not with routine grading. --Epipelagic (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dead links in article 'Fishing industry in New Zealand'

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A Barnstar For You

The Editor's Barnstar
For your excellent improvements to Fish trap and Fishing net. Well done, my friend. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well thank you Anna. Both articles benefited from some fine photographs taken by your good self. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Noodling Link Deletion

Yesterday, May 21st, 2012, I added a link on the noodling article for Jerry Rider's website since he was featured prominently in the article. I noticed you removed it for spam. Would it be more appropriate if I linked directly to his bio page on his website, so as to avoid the "spammy" elements? Or would it be more appropriate to create a separate article for him since he is a major figure in the practice? If that article was written, would it be appropriate to link to his website on that article? I'd appreciate any help you can give on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.254.138 (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion about an article like this one on noodling belongs on the talk page of the article and not here. So I have transferred the discussion to Talk:Noodling, and replied there. Regards. --Epipelagic (talk) 11:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Nice Talk Page

I really like your talk page, Its really good, I like the them therefore I used it on my page, that would be highly appreciated if you would be kind enough to grant me a permission, it not then I will remove it from my talk page.--Faizanalivarya (talk) 04:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, you're welcome :) --Epipelagic (talk) 04:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exceptional Newcomer Award

Thank you for the Exceptional Newcomer Award.

I’ll see what I can do to bring some order to freshwater ecosystems and some related topics.

(This is my first attempt to use the Talk function. Please let me know that you have received it.)

DignitySun53 (talk) 13:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. --Epipelagic (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fish-related outlines

You have a reply at Talk:Outline of fishing. The Transhumanist 20:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:User TINC blue

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Template used at Pickled Herring

Thanks for your correction in deleting my 'bismarckhering' gaff; well said and well deleted.

Given your interests in coastal you may be interested in footnote 2 at Montague Island (Alaska).
All the best.
Benyoch ...Don't panic! Don't panic!... (talk) 11:26, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks --Epipelagic (talk) 13:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RE: FYI: Shrimp

Hey thanks for modifying the passage on shrimp for me, I'm not all that good with the wikipedia editing stuff. It's important as many lives are saved from damnation as possible. 24.225.23.137 (talk) 08:07, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I should jolly well think so. Abominations must be avoided at all costs! (...though the problem is there are so many abominations it gets tedious mentioning them everywhere) --Epipelagic (talk) 08:11, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

wp:Tea

Why thank you very much. But you must be all tea'd out by now. Have a brandy. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Brandy? 99.181.153.207 (talk) 00:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your undo regarding page "swarm" and my screensaver.

I was of the opinion that the help file fully explains the used model. And this screensaver fully fits under the section "self-propelled particles".

And most software runs only under a few OSs. I don't think that you can restrict links to only java software. I think this link fully fits!

Kind Regards Peter Foelsche — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExcessPhase (talk • contribs) 23:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, roll-your-own swarm simulations are a dime-a-dozen, so you really should be making a case for why your simulation stands out and merits special attention. You are promoting your own software yet you have not declared that you have a conflict of interest here. You also appear to be promoting it as a "screensaver", which not appropriate for an encyclopediac article on swarming. You are also using peacock terms, as in a "mesmerizing chaotic system". Further, the documentation for your simulation does not explicitly align it with a formal swarm model, and does not cite reliable sources. And I cannot even assess whether it runs well, because it runs only on Windows. Anyway, I've restored the link, with a less elaborate description, and it can stay there if no one else takes exception. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. ok -- I've not seen so many swarm simulations yet, except the original on X-windows (but I did not look into the matching sources of the original swarm screensaver). As this software is freeware there is no financial conflict of interest. I've seen many people playing with this "screensaver" and using it as an educational tool -- being surprised that such a chaotic system can come out of something determined without using any random numbers. "mesmerizing chaotic system" -- This is the best I could come up with -- I've seen also other people than I being mesmerized by it. As it turns out, one needs already some interest in mathematics to be able to appreciate this screensaver -- not every simple mind likes it (I'm not pointing at you -- this is just my experience). You mentioned: "does not cite reliable sources" -- there were none. I came up with this system myself. I guess I don't have to site my university course regarding numeric integration? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExcessPhase (talk • contribs) 00:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is about what can be verified using reliable sources, so your "university course regarding numeric integration" and your original research has no relevance here. If you get more mathematical experience you will become less surprised, though no less fascinated at the patterns that can emerge from randomness. --Epipelagic (talk) 01:37, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Thank you very much for the welcome into WikiProject Fisheries and Fishing! I think the welcome template is nicely designed and looks very good, too! You are the very first person to formally welcome me in Wikipedia. Even though I have been editing here for about three years, I only recently started joining projects and have not really interacted with many people. Like the "wikipuma" I tend to look for stubs and start-class articles to improve on. Let me know if you need any specific areas for the project addressed first. Thanks again and have a beer on me! Traveler7 (talk) 06:40, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Five pillars?

Of interest per, "the Revert" along with Special:Contributions/User:Fat&Happy and apparent Wikipedia:MEAT User:Vsmith are avoiding the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle on [1] Talk:Religion and environmentalism and [2] Talk:Christianity and environmentalism. Is this a failure of the Wikipedia process? 99.181.151.68 (talk) 11:51, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Look, and I've said to you several times before, you need to get a proper account, stop your IP hopping, and stop obsessively adding internal wikilinks in a way that annoys other editors, including myself. I'm not going to support you or engage with you at length unless you can do that, and unless you actually do that. You have some good ideas and your take on sustainability issues seems healthy and useful to me. But you are not going to contribute helpfully to Wikipedia until you learn to listen to what other editors say, and make the changes you need to make so you don't irritate them. Many of your edits are, in fact, quite useful, and I have implemented some of them myself. But most of your good contributions are lost amongst the unhelpful overlinking you do, and editors discard them without even thinking about them. If you carry on the way you are, the final outcome will be that you will have wasted a lot of your own time achieving next to nothing, and will have irritated and wasted the time of a lot of other editors. That would be a shame, because if you went about it in other ways, you could probably contribute quite a lot here. So do please stop being so obstinate, and start working through a proper account in a way that is going to work and help, instead of just irritating other editors. If you do that, I'll stand with you and support you. If you don't do that then I'm going to stand aside.
If you really do want to contribute in a workable way here, it would be a good idea to get yourself a mentor. There are some excellent mentors here, for example Dennis Brown or Worm. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:04, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll keep your mentor suggestions in mind. Thank you for your time. 99.119.128.28 (talk) 21:27, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Diatoms

I have been in "Discussions" with User talk:Bhaskarmv‎ about his additions to Diatom and to related pages such as Fish kill, Eutrophication etc. He was initially trying to promote his product but now he is set on a course of saying "diatoms are good - other algae are bad" which is both wrong and grossly over simplistic. He also asserts that organically polluted waters can be made to thrive by encouraging diatoms to grow. With most of what he writes there is a germ of truth in there somewhere but the conclusions are very wide of the mark. In his latest response on his own talk page he says in response to my offer of help

I can understand your ignorance, I have faced similar situations with many people in the past few years. They have all accepted my view finally. The resistance to new concepts is quite severe, even after 100s of years of inventions and discoveries. Unfortunately a lot of published data is incomplete or erroneous and has to be changed in view of the development of our product and solution. ........ Your attitude is attributing motives to me is wrong. This is product has been demonstrated for the past 7 years. The language of my posts can always be edited to improve them, there is no problem with this as long as the science is not contested.

I take from that that he believes he has access to scientific publications that have alluded me. I would welcome your thoughts and views and I would also be interested whether you know of other editors who have specialised knowledge of aquatic ecosystems and diatoms. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk   10:16, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well I have been watching this dance with some interest, wondering how you were going to bring it to an end, and somewhat relieved you were the principal dancing partner and not me! I don't know enough to have an opinion, though Bhaskarmv's‎ suggestion is interesting and may have some validity. You could contact Plumbago, his email address in enabled. I see he has been on the case previously. I can't find good sources to back Bhaskarmv‎. I would just treat him in a gentle way, but make it clear that there must be reliable sources, and that original research and passion (for whatever reason) don't carry weight on Wikipedia. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:01, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fish hook

It shouldn't be "found in the Leviathan", it should be "in reference to the Leviathan" or something of that sort. Do you think that to be correct? All Worlds (talk) 06:12, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oops... yes of course. Would you please fix it :) My excuse is that I've had Leviticus on the brain lately! --Epipelagic (talk) 06:47, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

'Fish Supper'

Sorry about the overlinkin', hi! Will certainly cut down on that! Just found this article a bit 'Dublin-centric' when it came to Ireland, a country where we enjoy (a bit too much!) Fish 'n chips! Thanks again for the wee tip; I'll certainly try to abide. As we say here in west Ulster: 'Cheerio'!! (Laggan Boy (talk) 22:47, 29 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Welcome!

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Welcome to WikiProject Globalization! We look forward to your contributions towards improving Wikipedia's coverage of globalization. Please feel free to ask questions or make suggestions on the project's talk page. Regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 06:58, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto! Meclee (talk) 12:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Harold Ensley article

I just (re)created an article for Harold Ensley (apparently an old BS version had been deleted at some time in the past). I added a WP Fishing banner to it. Would you mind checking it out and doing an initial assessment for it ;) ? I have one dumb question for you: how do you add his name to the "Fishing Personalities" topic block at the bottom of the article? Thanks, Traveler7 (talk) 21:56, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the navigation template so you can edit it (click "E" at the top left). I also formatted and consolidated the references. You can look at the source code to see how this is done, and you could also read the guideline for citing sources. There is still some work that needs to be done. There are some issues with using forums as sources. Those are not usually acceptable as reliable sources (this is a key guideline which you should read carefully). Nor can you quote "Jim Higgins, who worked for Mr. Ensley for 55 years". Instead of using forums as sources, you can search Google News for articles in mainstream newspapers. Also, you can search Google Books for entries in mainstream books and magazines. There is plenty of material there suggesting that Harold Ensley is sufficiently notable for Wikipedia, but you haven't really established that in your article. Finally, there are issues with close paraphrasing. Unless you are quoting, you must write the text completely in your own words, not even using phrases that are in the source. I use Copyscape as a way of establishing whether there are major paraphrasing issues, and Duplication Detector as a way of examining paraphrasing issues in more detail. Copyscape costs $10 a year, and Duplication Detector is free. If you can tidy these issues over the next four days, you can submit your article for a DYK. I'll give you more help if you need it :) --Epipelagic (talk) 09:10, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I knew you would be a huge help, many thanks! I understand now that this article needs a massive rewrite with solid references - those newspaper articles you linked me to are excellent. I have recruited my wife (Lilithmoon1) to help me rewrite this today. She created her own separate account yesterday (she has her own laptop) so I may have hooked her into Wikiaddiction ;-) She wants to join the fishing project too so you will see her name pop up on there soon. We will rewrite it in a sandbox before posting. Thanks again, Traveler7 (talk) 14:16, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good. There might be a copyright issue with the photo of Ensley you uploaded. A photo "taken from his television show" might not be within the Commons copyright policies You can ask for help here. --Epipelagic (talk) 16:43, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I had thought screen shots from film were allowed if credited, but apparently not. For now I will just remove them from the article until I figure it out. I may have to just wait until I can drive up to the Hall of Fame in Springfield and take some photos with my own camera. Good eye, thanks again.Traveler7 (talk) 18:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot.

If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at wikiocaasi@yahoo.com. Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 17:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question on Sustainability

Regarding [3], wasn't this already resolved over a year ago? It seems to have come-up in regards to Talk:Wealth#Add File:Nested sustainability-v2.gif and Wealth edits. 99.181.143.14 (talk) 02:33, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Fishery Begin

Template:Infobox Fishery Begin has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kipper‎‎

I've no intention of getting into an edit war, I think I've made my point and as much as I'd like to see the quality of the referencing improved in the article I'm no going to fight about it anymore, --Thefrood talk 04:11, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your angry deletion of all unreferenced material, with no discrimination about what is valid, is serious edit warring, amounting to vandalism in my opinion. However, since hard core edit warring like that is not the right way to go, I've abandoned the article to your tender mercies, and taken it off my watch list. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:39, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Given that I've already stated that I have no intention of continuing to fight about this or furthering an edit war i.e. I have no intention of making any more edits to the article relating to the citation needed tag issue, is not that an overreaction?
I just like to see a nice article properly referenced, everything I've added has been referenced plus I have tried to reference some of the unsourced material (which I intend to continue doing) - I was just hoping the CN tags would help induce others to to help reference the unsourced material as well. I only used then to mark unsourced statements which I believe is the entire purpose of the CN tag. However as I said I've made my point and if you don't see the value of the CN tag I don't want to fight about it and I'll accept your position on this with regards to the article. --Thefrood talk 05:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I see you've reinstated the deleted material. I appreciate the good work you have done there, and I'll help with more references when I have time. --Epipelagic (talk) 06:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
NB: This is just about the prettiest talk page I've ever seen on wikipedia.--Thefrood talk 06:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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