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Editing request for August 2012

Editing request for August 2012:

The description of Neil Armstrong as the first person to set foot on the moon is incorrect. Buzz Aldrin Was the First of the crew to set foot on the moon, Neil Armstrong is given credit for the famous quote, But the right as first to set foot on the Moon is Buzz Aldrin's
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.172.27 (talk) 22:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense ...

The words "roommate" and "antiaircraft" are not hyphenated, hence please correct these.
"Anti" is never hyphenated onto anything except for proper nouns such as in "anti-Catholic", "anti-American", and "anti-Israeli". Otherwise, see antimatter, antiparticle, anticommunist, antilearning, antimilitary, antimissile, antinuclear, antipollution, antiscientific, antisuperstition, antisubmarine warfare, antitechnology, and antiwar.

The word "Australia-based" is incorrect, and we can give countless examples. The first word in this is always an adjective. See: American-based, Belgian-based, Canadian-based, Dutch-based, French-based, German-based, Greek-based, Italian-based, nuclear-based, Omani-based, Portuguese-based, Russian-based, Swedish-based, Swiss-based, Spanish-based, solar-based.

For example, "The American-based International Monetary Fund"; "The Belgian-based military headquarters of NATO", "The people on the Cape Verde Islands speak a Portuguese-based creole language."; "The Swiss-based United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).
98.67.106.59 (talk) 00:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Death confirmed by Jay Barbree 3 pm MSNBC

The death is confirmed on the air by Jay Barbree just now on MSNBC - print citation coming shortly. Cause of death is complications from recent heart surgery. Tvoz/talk 19:10, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't have a citation yet, then don't add it. Wikipedia is not a real-time news service. We don't have to report current events fast. 200.127.89.241 (talk) 19:33, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the helpful advice. I'm well aware of what we are or are not. Tvoz/talk 19:35, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Similarly, I've removed any link between the surgery and Armstrong's death from the article. I've yet to see a news source that states the cause of death or links it directly to the surgery; anything else would be WP:SYN on our part. matt (talk) 19:40, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Look again, please. His family's statement made the connection, and many news outlets are so reporting it. Tvoz/talk 20:04, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
and here's just one of them. Tvoz/talk 20:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I saw that was added to the article with a ref. However, at the time of my posting, I had not seen one news source stating this (despite reading quite a few) and not one of the ones given in the article verified the claim at the time of my previous post. matt (talk) 21:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for snapping - that's fair enough. Tvoz/talk 21:25, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request - missing comma

In Return to Earth section, "Armstrong and Aldrin discovered that in their bulky spacesuits, they had broken the ignition switch for the ascent engine;" needs a comma after "that": "Armstrong and Aldrin discovered that, in their bulky spacesuits, they had broken the ignition switch for the ascent engine;" Or else remove the one after "spacesuits". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.198.120.51 (talk) 19:23, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ----AE Daily (speak!) 19:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT REQUEST: cause of death.

A cause of death had been reported by AP News. http://apne.ws/Rb0Hi9

His family said in a statement that it was from complications from a cardiovascular procedure. Please can someone edit it in?

Aadmm (talk) 19:43, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Tvoz/talk 21:02, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

EVA

Says "EVA" several times in the article without explaining what it stands for. Apparently it means Extra-vehicular activity. First mention should be an internal link to aforementioned article. (Obviously, the same goes for all other articles about astronauts/whoever where none of the "EVA"s is linked.) --82.170.113.123 (talk) 20:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good point - I've Wikilinked the first 'EVA' in the article body. And you're right - this seems to be a widespread problem. I'll raise it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 25 August 2012

How come does this article have "USAF" under his picture when he was in the Navy? Yet another example of wikipedia's uncontested brilliance.

67.238.224.194 (talk) 20:08, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the article says that Armstrong was"...A participant in the U.S. Air Force's Man In Space Soonest and X-20 Dyna-Soar human spaceflight programs...", which might justify calling him a 'USAF astronaut'. You may have a point though. We'll need to think about this. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:13, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To the IP: But we could live without the sarcasm - we actually do try to get it right, and helpful comments are welcome. Tvoz/talk 20:33, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing "USAF" from the above mentioned comments. Armstrong was in the US Navy and then worked for NASA. He may have participated in a program that the Air Force led, but he was never a member of the USAF, thus this is misleading. His NASA Bio should clear up any questions. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/about/bios/neilabio.html --Revmqo (talk) 21:31, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First wife

You have Neil Armstrong's first wife listed as having died in 1962 and then you mention she divorced him in 1992 after 38 years of marriage. Cannot be both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.4.63.232 (talk) 20:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article says that their daughter Karen died in 1962. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:36, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

25. August is correct?

His death was reported on 25th, but seems the site http://neilarmstronginfo.com had been created on 24th. --Kucharek (talk) 20:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was definitely reported today (the 25th), but as it's already 4:30 in the afternoon on the east coast, I can't say what that means for the actual date of death.  — AnnaKucsma  Speak! 20:36, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It was reliably reported on the 25th at around 3pm EDT that he died on Saturday the 25th, so that's what we're going with. Don't know who did that website or when. Tvoz/talk 20:41, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen dates of death be reported incorrectly by the media before, based on when the story breaks. See Richard Winters. His death wasn't reported for over ten days, and we got it wrong at first. There's no hurry, as long as the date is corrected in the end.--JOJ Hutton 21:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Moon landing

It should be mentioned that "Hoax theories, saying Apollo astronauts had never walked on the Moon" see Moon landing conspiracy theories. Moreover add that "Polls taken in various locations have shown that between 6% and 20% of Americans surveyed believe that the manned landings were faked".— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.151.195 (talk • contribs)

No. This article is about Neil Armstrong, the Apollo astronaut. It isn't about conspiracy theories - see WP:FRINGE. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:51, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is essential part of the whole Moon landing and hence his legacy and history.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.151.195 (talk • contribs)
Absolutely not - Andy is right. Tvoz/talk 21:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it should mention the hoax theories. This article has a large segment about a "moon landing". However, the vast majority of the world don't believe in this landing, as it was more than likely faked. Therefore it should definitely be made clear in the article about Neil Armstrong that his status as being the first man on the moon is only a theory. Especially now that he has died, the viewcount will rise quickly, so we need the facts out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.67.69.8 (talk) 23:24, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Already Covered in the article Moon landing, where it belongs. It has no place in this article about Neil Armstrong. Intrepid (talk) 23:28, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The article states "He was notable for being the first human to set foot upon the Moon.". It should state "According to NASA, he was notable for being the first human to set foot upon the Moon." Wiki guidelines state "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." "According to NASA" makes it verifiable. "He was notable" is against Wiki guidelines.

Semi-protected

Well since the page is protected now, here's a fix for a dead link I was going to make; http://www.wapakoneta.net/history for Reference 3. Ebrockway (talk) 20:57, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  No problem doing it for you, but fyi the page is only semi-protected (no IPs or brand new accts can edit) - so you should be able to do subsequent edits directly yourself. Tvoz/talk 21:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quotation in 'Lead Section'

Second time quotation has been deleted. The Edit Summary I gave was:- (historic quotation. therefore, reverted deletion. per MOS:LEAD/WP:LEAD --> section 'Relative emphasis'). Please read that section and also the section 'Citation' on that style/policy page which clearly mentions the usage of quotations in lead sections.Yaara dildaara (talk) 22:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles always begin with the lead sentence. No article, ever, begins with a quotation. This is just completely against our commonly accepted article structure. There are many people who have some famous quote associated with them, but this is Wikipedia, not Wikiquote. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. And this man was not notable for his quote. He was for something else. -DePiep (talk) 22:32, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Recently Dead person...

Just curious to know, how long does the "Recently Dead" banne stay on the page for?Xtreme2000 (talk) 22:52, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To me it is clearly explained at {{recent death}}. -DePiep (talk) 22:57, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 25 August 2012

Under legacy section please add: 

The Civil Air Patrol cadet program has also honored Neil Armstrong by naming the 8th cadet achievement after him. It requires the cadet to accomplish several tasks including but not limited to:

1.write a 300-500 word essay and present a 5 to 7 minute speech to the unit on one of the topics below: 

   A. Explain why America’s aerospace power is vital to commerce, science or national security.
   B. Describe leadership mistakes you have made and explain what you learned from them.
   C. Explain the difference between followership and leadership

2. Pass a leadership exam.

3. Pass a physical fitness exam.

Leadership, physical fitness and the ability to speak and write were vital to his roles in space, the military and in his teaching life.

Reference :

http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/cadet_programs/stripes_to_diamonds/neil_armstrong_achievement.cfm


Rpgennrichiii (talk) 23:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)Robert P. Gennrich, III[reply]

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