Talk:2007–2008 world food price crisis
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Proposal for a New Stub
The section at the end titled 'Food price decreases' needs a lot of work. The concluding sentences of this section merit another stub:
"By early 2011 food prices had risen again to surpass the record highs of 2008. Some commentators saw this as the resumption of the price spike seen in 2007–08.[159] Prices had dropped after good weather helped increase grain yields while demand had dropped due to the recession.[160]"
or a link to the current stub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–11_global_food_crisis
Food riots were also experienced across the globe from 2009-2011. While they were related to the 2007-08 riots, different factors were involved. It would be nice to see the wiki community acknowledge these events and begin compiling related and relevant information. Geohutt1 (talk)
Hidden refs
These refs are currently commented out in the text and need to be integrated:
- Why are tortillas now tied to oil prices? Reuters-Alertnet: Tim Large. 13 March 2008.
- GLOBAL: "Let them eat subsidies?", 7 April 2008 (IRIN) .
- The cost of eating. Rising food prices are now affecting communities that had previously been protected from the scourge of hunger . Josette Sheeran, The Guardian, February 26, 2008.
- Hungry for oil. Dwindling oil stocks could cause the UK to be vulnerable to food shortages for the first time since the second world war. Caroline Lucas, The Guardian, January 29, 2007 9:30 AM
- Commodity Forecasts, World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimates Historical Revisions, USDA, Office of the Chief Economist. July 12, 2006
- WFP and global food price rises - key points, United Nations World Food Program, 26 February, 2008.
- International Agricultural Baseline Data / Supply and Use Tables, 2007-2016 , USDA Economic Research Service.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by NJGW (talk • contribs) 15:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Possible calculation error
In the text under World population growth, there is this:
- According to Joachim von Braun, of the IFPRI, total food production increases only about 1 to 2 percent per year, while total world population increases approximately 4%.[12]
with the reference [12] containing no literature reference, but the text
- +100% in 25 years makes +4% each year
which seems to be drived from the doubling time of the human population of 25 years mentioned in the National geographic article of reference [11]; problem is, annual growth rate with a doubling time of 25 years is not 4% or a factor of 1.04. It's 20.04, or 1,0281..., so the figure would be about 2.8%. And to use real numbers and not some theoretical values from an essay on Malthus, in 1968, the doubling time of the human population was about 40 years between 1950 and 1990, which leads to an annual growth rate of 20.025 or 1,0174..., and that was an all-time high, AFAIK. Any mistakes by me? BTW that fits nicely with the food per capita graph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.217.124.166 (talk) 12:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Reading the article I have noted the same problem. According to the articles World population, World population estimates recent population growth is even smaller: about 1.2% per year. Therefore this section should be corrected if not deleted. Page International_wheat_production_statistics contains information about wheat production growth. According to it, there was a drop during 2006--2007. Second part of the section World population growth was edited to remove erroneous text. However some more effort is appreciated to improve this section, because my English is far from perfect, and because I haven't found estimates on food production (wheat production is different from total food production because, first, there are some independent sources of food, and, second, because some wheat is not used for food). Vikasatkin (talk) 02:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
How many died?
I need a number estimating how many died of starvation in 2008 compared to earlier years, say the average of 2000 to 2006.24.214.43.163 (talk) 12:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Add n:Poverty rises as food prices increase from Sunday, April 17, 2011 Wikinews.
Add {{sister |project=wikinews |text=[[Wikinews]] has news on this topic * [[n:Poverty rises as food prices increase|Poverty rises as food prices increase]], Sunday, April 17, 2011 }} 99.109.127.246 (talk) 01:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- As I've pointed out a number of times, Wikinews sister links are for categories, not for individual news items. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:02, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've seen them too. 99.190.85.25 (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- See related discussion on Talk:Politics of global warming (United States). 99.190.85.25 (talk) 22:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- That news article isn't related to this article, anyway. I don't know why I argue the technicalities, when the substance is missing. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 23:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- How about http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Food ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.181.156.137 (talk) 04:47, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Why? (This article) 2007–2008 world food price crisis → ??? → ??? → Food → n:Category:Food? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 05:03, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- How about http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Food ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.181.156.137 (talk) 04:47, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- That news article isn't related to this article, anyway. I don't know why I argue the technicalities, when the substance is missing. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 23:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
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