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September 18

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 18, 2015.

Wakopedia

Entirely implausible typo. - TheChampionMan1234 02:20, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

for starters. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC).[reply]
Why should you be annoyed at having to be WP:RS like every other editor on Wikipedia? I thought WP:Raw references were discouraged nowadays (and by nowadays I mean since a long time ago.) I spend ages editing references to make them better to readers who do not necessarily click through them. What do you do? Make other editors do your homework. I can find stuff on the Internet too. It is for you to make the case, not for me to dispute it. Si Trew (talk) 22:28, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete both as WP:RFD#D2 with extremely little corresponding WP:RFD#K3 benefit:
    1. It is not particularly useful to redirect every obscure nickname or synonym or typo to a target which is already extremely well-known by its normal name. That's not a reason to delete by itself, but ...
    2. These redirects cross the line into harmfulness when there are actual other topics (whether notable or not) known by those nicknames (as there are in this case). A reader who follows the redirect looking for information about the other topic will be disappointed. Worse, the redirects may mislead readers into thinking the topics are officially related.
See also previous RFDs on Sanic the Hedgehog and Sanic & Taels. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 05:51, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Moderately strong delete (between delete and strong delete) Meaningless pejoratives whose removal will make it no more difficult for readers to find the target article. Compare to the red Obummer. And in fact, these could certainly cause confusion. As noted, Wackypedia is the actual name of another site, and Wakopedia is its own thing too, though I'm really not sure what. Note also that the sources provided don't use "Wakopedia". I would think "Wackopedia" would be the more logical spelling, and it's red. --BDD (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. One of the terms has been around for a lucky seven years, and the other was published both in The Signpost and on a British news website. If other site(s) with these harmless, funny names become notable and have their own WP articles, then the redirects can be converted. Never let it be said that this enpsychopedia cannot laugh at itself. – Painius  00:36, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 14:23, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Painius  20:51, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I would have thought "no consensus to delete" at this stage. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC).[reply]
And I would tend to agree – where are all those "amens" when you need them? !>) Painius  00:15, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of Juice

No such detailed list exists at the target. Steel1943 (talk) 19:22, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Heathen

In the past few weeks, this redirect has been subject to an edit war, between redirecting to Heathen_(disambiguation) and Paganism#Heathen. I personally believe that Paganism#Heathen is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but I will put this up to community consensus here. Also, if consensus says that the dab page is correct, the dab page should be moved over the redirect, per MOS:DABPAGENAME. Natg 19 (talk) 19:05, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Natg 19 (talk), thanks for drawing my attention to this dispute.

In my opinion, Heathen_(disambiguation) is the proper redirect since Heathen has several meanings, not all of them religious.

To be fair, I am actually opposed to using "Heathen" to refer to the religion. Germanic neopaganism is the more neutral term. In the United States, where I leave, "heathen" mainly means lazy, ignorant, and immoral. --ThorLives (talk) 19:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment there is edit history from 2005 that was merged away, before it became a redirect. I suggest that that be separated from the edit history of the redirect, and moved to Heathen (religion) and redirected to the disambiguation page. That was we don't have to deal with a messy redirect with merged contribution history. -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 05:30, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:BADGER

I'm confused why this longstanding shortcut to the harassment policy has been retargeted to a user's page (WP:XNR) but I'm bringing it here because that user's page was actually the original target, so I don't know what's going on. Unless there's some reason for this, should retarget to Wikipedia:Harassment, where it's been since late 2013. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:59, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was procedural close. This is a move request. --BDD (talk) 21:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I want to move the redirect target page here - the actual name is "Reich", not "Reichs".-Ich (talk) 17:58, 18 September 2015 (UTC) Ich (talk) 17:58, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Truth (film)

Redirect is not helpful. There are presently two films called Truth on WP: the target article of this redirect, Truth (2013 film), and Truth (2015 film), an upcoming, potentially controversial film with two very high profile actors and an awards campaign to boot. The 2013 film is a small indie with very muted critical response, and virtually non-existent box office. 2013 film article traffic stats vs 2015 film article stats for the last 90 days. Most recent spikes in 2013 article traffic are very likely to do with news, media reports, festival critical reaction and awards buzz for the 2015 film. People searching for Truth (film) are being redirected to the 2013 film. Most readers searching for a film Truth will most likely be searching for the 2015 film. No internal links would be broken; unlikely external links to the redirect exist. Propose delete. Lapadite (talk) 17:03, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shitface

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

This redirect was recently nominated for RFD, but got next to no individual discussion in a WP:TRAINWRECK (it had been speedy deleted and was red for most of the discussion). I don't think there is a good target for this redirect and should be deleted per either WP:R#D2 or WP:XY. For one, it isn't mentioned anywhere at alcohol intoxication. When I think of shitface, I think of it literally, as in a fetish where someone takes a shit on someone else's face (and that's as graphic as I'd like to go). -- Tavix (talk) 01:52, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I very much like the idea of being able to add documentation to R's. I don't think 70.51 nor myself is suggesting that they should be at every R, but sometimes, when they are "non-obvious", as the documentation says(but does not link), they would be very helpful I think to avoid a WP:SURPRISE. "Non-obvious"is used by the UK and I think the US patent office to suggest when a patent might be granted, it used to have to be ä new invention or some such, but now just has to be non-obvious. To the unspeakable advancement of human knowledge. Si Trew (talk) 06:30, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Godsy: I just read that article: LOL some of the stuff on this website. Rubbish computer 13:14, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed .—Godsy(TALKCONT) 13:18, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:43, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Eighth Wonder (film)

Delete per WP:REDLINK because this should be red until there is enough information on the film to create an article. not mentioned at the target. -- Tavix (talk) 01:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:42, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Beneath the Deep (film)

Delete per WP:REDLINK as this should be red until there's enough information to create an article. no significant usage of this phrase and I couldn't find any information on Wikipedia of a film with this name. -- Tavix (talk) 01:09, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:41, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Antivillain

No articles link to this redirect, The term itself is a non-notable neologism and was previously deleted. And at best the term is peripherally related to the redirect target, which does not discus it. Edward321 (talk) 13:51, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to false hero, which is currently the only article categorized beside "antivillains" in Template:Stock characters. False protagonist is another option, by meaning, although "antivillain" doesn't appear there. Neither of these exactly describe the concept as I thought of it, the opposite of antihero which would be an antagonist with heroic qualities, or a character who does good despite an evil motive (or a motive opposite that of the protagonist). Mustapha Mond of Brave New World (when viewed through John the Savage's moral frame) is the best example I can think of at the moment.
Coincidentally, a search brought up Redshirt (character) but I think this is way off. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:38, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per Ivanvector. --Rubbish computer 00:28, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Isn't there a problem going to false hero given that a great deal of anti-villains clearly are not heroes (and are never seen as such) in the story sense? The example that comes to mind immediately is Inspector Javert from Les Miserables and Deputy Samuel Gerard from The Fugitive. Neither of them are heroes, and they're certainly portrayed as antagonist characters doing ill activities, but their motaviations are complex, with them being relatable human beings. Recall:
"I didn't kill my wife!"
"I don't care!"
That's an 'anti-villain'. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, a False Hero is a person pretending to be a hero whereas an antivillain is a villain who has noble goals and or virtues but their means to achieve these goals is evil. The current redirect is actually better than the proposed one since there is more of a connection.--174.91.187.135 (talk) 00:54, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Intel Core i5 430m

Implausible redirect. sstflyer 05:38, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to List of Intel Core i5 microprocessors since that would be even more precise, as stated below CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:42, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Intel Core i7-4558U

Implausible redirect. Do we have to create a redirect for each and every single CPU model? sstflyer 05:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln middle school (alameda,california)

This redirect is unneeded and incorrectly capitalized (and lacks a space between the "," and "california"). There is also a better redirect at Lincoln Middle School (Alameda, California) -Sonicwave (talk|c) 04:58, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. How many do you think is two,many, Tavix? Si Trew (talk) 22:05, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Tavix. Rubbish computer 13:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Typos are all right, we all make 'em, and it's OK if they encourage people to find the article they want. I can't see that this would go to any other target. WP:RFD#K2. As per User:WilyD often says, nobody has suggested a reason (or rationale or argument) has been presented for deletion.
Deleting this would make it harder to search. So I cannot understand the "too many typos" argument, which does not seem to fall under any existing criteria, and no reason, argument or rationale was given for deletion. Si Trew (talk) 22:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kurushima-Kaikyo Bridge

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was snow keep. Since it's obvious this is going to be kept, I'm going to go ahead and close this. Ivanvector offers some good advice to the nominator though. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 16:06, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

i modified all article pages with redirects to this page, so it can be deleted now Compfreak7 (talk) 02:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Level pack

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Steel1943 (talk) 14:17, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:XY. The redirects could refer to their current target, but in the most recent years/months, the redirects have a stronger connection with the term "Downloadable content". Steel1943 (talk) 01:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep "level pack(s)" -- DLC is a type of expansion pack, since it expands the game with new content (such as a new character for a fighting game, new music, new skins, etc). DLC should be mentioned at expansion pack. -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 04:55, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Data disk

Delete per WP:XY. The current target is wrong, but almost every article in Category:Compact disc and Category:DVD could potentially be called by the redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 01:17, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fleeing

Not sure what should be dine with this redirect, but the current target seems incorrect. For one, this term could refer to several subjects on the Retreat disambiguation page. However, Flee is a redirect to an album, and Flee (disambiguation) doesn't exist. I think the best option may be soft redirect to Wikt:fleeing. Steel1943 (talk) 00:57, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome, and I personally believe that the communities under Flée should be merged as well. However, I also want to see what the consensus here says. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:27, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kutru

This is the name of a town in India, thus this term would be confusing for people looking for that. - TheChampionMan1234 00:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The word indeed can be 'dog', but-- as stated above-- it also can be used as a person's name or nickname as well as other uses. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:28, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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