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User:Irondome persistently reverts 67.87.189.39 edits in violation of WP:OWNER
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Re: Panther tank (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Please, take a look in the Revision history at the Irondome's 10 edits from that on 19:57, 9 November 2015 on. They are mostly reversions of my contributions without any summaries (blanking vandalism). He seems to be out of control maybe filling offended and seeking retribution. He erased my 2nd comment left on his talk page under User_talk:Irondome#Response to .22Panther edits.22.. He thinks he owns the Panther tank page in violation of WP:OWNER. Please, intervene.--67.87.189.39 (talk) 22:31, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- And I think you should grasp the basic WP concept of WP:BRD which you have flagrantly and contemptuously ignored, despite my repeated attempts to communicate with you, as is evident on your talk page. Do not waste volunteers valuable time. I would rather advise you to get some WP:CLUE on how WP runs. I shall comment no further. Irondome (talk) 22:38, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- "(BRD) is an optional method of reaching consensus" (see WP:BRD). WP:CLUE says: "Disputes are resolved in favor of whoever offers the best reasoning – not in terms of rhetoric", e.g. of the Irondome's User talk:67.87.189.39#Panther edits attempt to communicate. The Irondome's response to 67.87.189.39 of 22:40, 9 November 2015 with "see WP:BUGGEROFF" on Special:Contributions/Irondome reveals the Irondome's true intention to communicate in addition to the "adherence" to Wikipedia:Civility. Please, stop the Irondome's tendency to do blanking vandalism inconsistent with WP:OWNER even though preceded by the communication of Irondome's (personal) preferences.--67.87.189.39 (talk) 23:43, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Apparently Kudpung กุดผึ้ง did not read or understand the constructive edits of 67.87.189.39 and, instead, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง semi-protected Panther tank under the false pretense of including communication in the edit summaries (which, per definition, are communication, as telling something, and very desired), and by doing so, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง abused Wikipedia:Protection policy#Content disputes and thus undermined the removal of logical errors, repetitions, and prolix descriptions from the page's lead, or, in other words, its constructive development.--67.87.189.39 (talk) 01:33, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- I repeat, I made a clear attempt to reach out to you, which you blatantly rebuffed.I did not report you for edit warring (which I should of, on reflection) because I am a patient man.WP:BRD is a critical method of how we work here. Your attempt to cast it aside as a tool which may suit you or not is an example of your arrogant method of interacting on the 'pedia. You have been willfully negligent in even attempting to communicate with both myself and User:BilCat, when engaging. You have made no attempt whatsoever to communicate in a meaningful way with anyone you have engaged with, apart from highly contemptuous edit summaries (which do not count as meaningful communication) which infer that you, and only you, know how to edit, and impugning the efforts of others. I would suggest that ininvolved parties examine your extremely discourteous and dismissive message on my talk page. If you do not "have time" to engage with colleagues on this project, and claim that you do not even wish to communicate with the authors of the lede, then I would suggest this is not the place for you. I suspect your bizarre claims of "ownership" are in fact a form of Psychological projection, in which you, in fact, are suffering from. Anyone who knows me, (and there are many here) knows my method of working, and my great passion for consensus and co-operation in editing. Your attempts to attack a highly respected administrator here are also reprehensible. Adhere strictly to WP:BRD, drop the aggressive tone you seem to habitually adopt, and learn some humility. You ignored repeated requests to refrain from posting on my talkpage. WP:BUGGEROFF was an exasperated final comment on your way of doing things and your whole approach. Change your ways sharpish, is my advice to you, IP. Irondome (talk) 03:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
This forum is not a place to complain about user conduct or content disputes with other users, but a place to seek assistance with content editing matters. For disputes over content see Dispute resolution; for complaints about user conduct either contact an administrator or file your complaint at Administrators noticeboard/incidents after carefully reading and complying with the instructions there and be aware that complaining about another user's conduct always puts your own conduct up for inspection. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:15, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- See below Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#How to protect constructive edits by expert unregistered editors against abuse by registered ones .26_administrators.3F.--67.87.189.39 (talk) 08:31, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Move/redirect help
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I've done extensive work on the Barbus barbus article, which currently redirects from Common barbel. This should really work the other way around - see Common bream for an example of how it's done with other fishes. I'd like to change this but have no idea how - any help gratefully received! VagrantDarter (talk) 11:53, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Follow the procedure set out here. If none of the first three bullet points apply, follow the procedure set out below them; if any of them do apply, click on the "discussion process" link in the first sentence of that section and follow that procedure instead. Note that those procedures are currently somewhat backlogged and it may take awhile before someone responds to your request. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Much appreciated. VagrantDarter (talk) 17:42, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
How to protect constructive edits by expert unregistered editors against abuse by registered ones & administrators?
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This is the most blatant piece of trolling I've seen in my 7 years and 1,200 edits on this help forum
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Re: Panther tank (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Re: The poorly formulated request above titled "User:Irondome persistently reverts 67.87.189.39 edits in violation of WP:OWNER". The question is in the title: How to protect constructive edits by expert unregistered users against abuse by registered ones & administrators? The Panther tank article is only an example. Unregistered users are usually not familiar with the intricacies of the Wikipedia rules or may not know how to respond or how to defend their constructive edits. Some, e.g. some busy experts, may not want to register, but only to fast correct pages without lengthily and time consuming seeking of consensuses on the talk pages, where, sometimes, the level of discussions is quite low or the participants are mostly looking for amusement, e.g. on Panther tank, which lead looks like garbage since at least 2011. Can Wikipedia afford loosing edits by expert unregistered users?
I believe, those 6 questions are very important for improving quality of many Wikipedia articles. I edited thousands of various Wikipedia articles under different IPs over more than 10 years including establishing structure for Intel Pentium microprocessors in collaboration with very intelligent editors, many unregistered, and doubling the content in just a few days. Nobody was wasting time to reach consensus on the talk pages, but also nobody was repeating the same twice and knew good when saw one. Eventually, everybody understood what everybody else meant and the consensus was being achieved by not being able to write better. That seems to be the most efficient way of editing and Wikipedia should protect it at all cost. That is the content editing matter of this request.--67.87.189.39 (talk) 08:28, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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Still Receiving RfC Notifications
As far as I am aware I have unsubscribed from all feedback request lists when I retired. However I am continuing to get notifications of RfC on my talk page which are being sent to me by email. Could someone look into it and see why legobot keeps dropping messages on my talk page? The last three all had policy and guidelines as a common denominator. But I looked again and did not see my name on the list. Thanks. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- You have several options: You could leave messages at
- Wikipedia talk:Feedback request service
- User talk:Legoktm
- User talk:Legobot
- If you don't want any messages at all going to your user page you can ask me or another admin to fully protect it for you.
--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- Kudpung, a user's request to have his or her own talk page protected is not a sufficient rationale to protect the page. User talk pages should only be protected in extreme circumstances. A better solution here is to use
{{bots|deny=legobot}}
which will prevent the bot from posting to the page while the issue is resolved. SpinningSpark 20:25, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Kudpung, a user's request to have his or her own talk page protected is not a sufficient rationale to protect the page. User talk pages should only be protected in extreme circumstances. A better solution here is to use
Adding a reference to External Links
Hi, I wanted to add an External link to Darren Aronofsky wikipedia entry. I entered: Skorin-Kapov,Jadranka (2015) Darren Aronofsky's Films and the Fragility of Hope, Lexington Books. It appeared in preview, but is not showing on the wikipedia page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Aronofsky Why is this so? Thank you for help! Jadranka Skorin-kapov Hatripet (talk) 23:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- AS far as I can tell, you previewed this but never saved the edit, at least not successfully. No such edit is in the edit history for Darren Aronofsky, and no edit to that page or indeed any article is in your contributions list, Jadranka Skorin-kapov. Perhaps there was an edit conflict that you didn't resolve, or some loss of communication the blocked the save, I can't tell. You would have to redo the edit. Note however that links to amazon.com (or any other commercial vendor) are usually not favored as reference citations, and external links other than references should generally appear only in the "External links" section. See WP:ELYES and WP:ELNO, please. DES (talk) 00:12, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
request for an expert to fix some messes that I have unintentionally created
Please excuse my incompetent efforts to propose deletion of the article Energy transfer. I tried to follow the instructions, but I just seemed to be led around and around in circles, with the sad result that I have made various messes. Please would you very kindly fix them. I wish to propose deletion of the article Energy transfer.Chjoaygame (talk) 04:17, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Done. Manually registering an AfD can be complex. It's best to use WP:Twinkle which will automatically carry out all the various steps and transclusions. To save time, I have deleted the AfD page you created and started the process for you again on your behalf. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Energy transfer. As I am only involved in a purely technical capacity regarding format, I will be voting in the discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:52, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for this. It seems that you have done all that is needed to set in motion the necessary discussion of a proposal to delete the article? Chjoaygame (talk) 06:27, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
How to present the dates of a person when date of death is not known?
If we know the dates of a person for sure, we write in his article "John Smith (1848-1922)". If I don't know the date of death for sure I can use circa like in "John Smith (1848-c.1922)". But what do I write if I only know that he was still alive in 1922? Circa won't do because he could conceivably have lived for another ten or twenty years. SpinningSpark 20:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Spinningspark, See WP:APPROXDATE where the example "Robert Menli Lyon (1789 – after 1863)" is given as well as other examples relevant to this issue, including some using "fl" for "flourished". DES (talk) 23:29, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Moving archives of Talk:List of YouTubers
A few months ago, the page at List of YouTube personalities was moved to List of YouTubers; the main talk page was moved along with the article, but its archives stayed at their original titles, and they can all be accessed from here. Could someone with administrator tools move all the archives and the archive index to the new title? I could technically do this myself, but since I can't move more than one page at a time nor suppress any redirects, it would make for a messy process. That's why I'm asking for an administrator to do so. Eventhorizon51 (talk) 23:02, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Google Plus as Publisher on links
Hi! I'm adding references to car articles but the references always have Google Plus as a the Publisher of the link although I get the links from carsguide.co.au What happens is I need to manually remove the Publisher info but what I want to know is why does Google Plus appear at all? How can I prevent it from appearing in the references?