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Welcome!

Hello, WilliamThweatt, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Squandering Time

On this topic, I can certainly relate! Welcome to the wikifamily! Kukini 23:44, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want this moved, please submit this to Wikipedia:Requested moves. For the record, I oppose the move to the title you suggested. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion, Ta. I have responded to your comments on the article's talk page. I acknowledge your both your civility and expertise in this area and your opposition is duly, but sadly, noted. I don't have time tonight to continue but I will take it up again tomorrow.WilliamThweatt 02:37, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

5/15/06 Thanks for your help with requesting the NSA warrentless surveillance controversy article for deletion. I had some problems, but somebody kindly got it up. The vote is on, please, WilliamThweatt, throw your two cents in at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_May_15#NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy it is needed.

Little Help, Please

I'm trying to type in Thai and Khmer fonts to add to/edit/create some articles and I just can't seem to figure out how. I have several fonts for these languages and have the latest editions of Windows XP and IE Browser.--WilliamThweatt 16:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what the problem is. Is this a Wikiepdia problem, or just a general computer one? Could you explain in more detail please.--Commander Keane 17:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I found the following category on meta which you might can browse for some clues. CQ 17:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Multilingualism
Thanks guys. To answer your question, Commander, the problem is all me. I just don't know how to do it. I look at my keyboard, I look at my screen, I push a key and I get this font. How do I shift fonts to type in Thai or Khmer? --WilliamThweatt 17:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Does this Microsfot link help? I'm not sure if you have the Thai or Khmer characters on your keyboard - or if that even matters. If this doesn't work, then I recommend you ask at the Reference desk, where someone who deals with multiple language like this will be able to help.--Commander Keane 19:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your question on fonts

For the fonts you need to download some input software on your computer. I don't know what's your operating system. Softwares vary from operating system to operating system. Check for more details at www.seasite.niu.edu for instance. Personally I do not input Khmer characters, because they don't show on most computers. I prefer to create image files and upload the image files directly into the articles, so I am sure everybody can see them. For Sanskrit I have never used Devanagari fonts. If you mean the Sanskrit transliteration, the way to input them is to type { { Unicode|here what you want to write} } (no spaces). For letters not appearing on my keyboard I go to Sanskrit article and do copy and paste of the letters I need. Hardouin 20:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tontie

You may have noticed earlier this evening, I blocked him for 1 month. This is after previous blocks of 1 day and 1 week. The next time, he should be blocked permanently. However, he has used sockpuppets before. --rogerd 02:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've created this, feeding into the same category as lang-stub for the time being, and tagged the four I'd found earlier. If this gets significantly larger -- or if "Wikiproject Austro-Asiatic langugages" springs into being -- the issue of a separate category can be revisited. Alai 03:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BrE vs. AmE

Despite my deliberate use of the AmE-N babel template, I am ambivalent as far as the use of BrE or AmE in articles about Cambodia. Since it is neither inherently a British of American topic it really doesn't matter to me. I'm actually surprised though, Markalexander100 normally keeps the Cambodian articles in BrE, I'd have thought that he would have been the one doing the reverting. Actually the more I think about it, he looks mostly at the Angkor related topics. As far as the Loung Ung piece goes, I think AmE is appropriate since she is a Cambodian-American. Anyway, happy editing. --Easter Monkey 03:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feet washing question

William, I had posted this on the Free Will Baptist Church discussion page, but you probably didn't see it. You mentioned that you have done research into the history of feet washing. Do you know any exceptional sources/resources that you would recommend? I am looking at (though not necessarily using) anything I can find for a source book I'm compiling. I really like records from individual church and local association minutes, such as notes about the local practice and articles of faith, but these are some of the hardest and most time-consuming to research. In U.S. Baptist history, I am keying on the groups not usually known to have observed the rite -- IOW, almost "everyone" knows that Primitive Baptists and Free Will Baptists practice feet washing, but many would and do assume that Missionary Baptists never did. Thanks. - Rlvaughn 18:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Register in Mon

Appreciated your expansion on register in the Mon article. What do you think about just changing the name of that section to "Register" (since it's not about phonation per se--i.e., not about voicing--but only about phonation differences on vowels as a contrastive feature)? By the way, "tone" in Burmese is partly a phonation thing too--with modal ("clear"), breathy ("heavy") and creaky tones. I did some instrumental phonetic studies, but the actual nature of the three "tones" never really came clear to me. Where you draw the line between tone languages and register languages has never been clear to me, where either might use pitch, pitch contour, phonation types and length in various ways to distinguish words. ...Anyway, good job, thanks. · rodii · 17:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply! It's great to see Mon-Khmer languages on Wikipedia. I agree, Burmese is definitely somewhere into true tone language territory and Mon isn't. I wrote my dissertation on Burmese (but more in syntax than phonology); later I did field work in Africa on another tone language and it became increasingly clear to me that tone in Southeast Asia is almost a different phenomenon than it is in Africa.
I look forward to your work on Mon language. I knew Gerard Diffloth a little, years ago, who know more about Mon than anyone I've ever met, but unfortunately seemed averse to writing it up, so I never learned much. I noticed you have a redlink for Nyahkur on your user page, by the way--I thought Nyahkur (or Nyah Kur) was basically just a Thai Mon dialect. Not? · rodii · 00:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sothea and Samouth

It was my pleasure to get the articles together. And it's great to know there's someone else out there who appreciates Khmer rock and roll. Wisekwai 21:14, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks

Thank you for your well reasoned defense of my editing methods. I've tried, as best as I can, to address my concerns at a few articles with those fellows. In my assessment, Nescio is the hardest to deal with, Kevin next and Ryan 3rd. However, at various times, each of them have directed harsh commentary towards me and/or have been otherwise very difficult to dialog with. Frankly, I am surprised at the grab-bag of invective they are now heaping at me. I do not intend to respond in kind. So, whether officially rebuked by these proceedings or not, I'll resume my editing efforts, chastened, but unbroken - and more careful about whom to expect honest dialog from. Merecat 00:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kurds

Hey, no problem. I was going to fix it, but you beat me to it. :) Don't forget to check the article for neutrality. —Khoikhoi 03:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey William. Yes, it is a bit of a problem. Kurdistan is just a geographic region, and using the term in a political way wouldn't reflect a neutral point of view. There article was mostly written by Kurdish editors, so it seems that some of them have added their bias into the article.
As for the Counter Vandalism Unit, I revert vandalism on the (2,000) pages on my watchlist as well, but the main thing that I think people are referring to is RC (recent changes) patrolling. I do that also, it's sort of boring at first, but at least it's helping the project out. To join just add {{user CVU1-en}} or {{user CVU2-en}} to your user page. The main duty I guess is RC patrol, I don't know of any others. Basically, you just revert the vandals and give them the {{test}} templates. —Khoikhoi 04:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert

On here was uncalled for. You did not even read my full reason on the talk page. Such edits may be counted as WP:Vandalism. -- - K a s h Talk | email 10:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know what I read? I did read your full "reason" for deleting an entire section and did not agree that it was a legitimate "reason" to delete an entire section. I stated such on the talk page and gave a reason before reverting, that's not vandalism. Your unilateral deletion of content is closer to vandalism.--WilliamThweatt 14:31, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense can be removed from Wikipedia safely, your statement on the talk sounded like you did not read my reason and only focused only on the Zoroastar part of it, just as you have now.
In any case "unilateral deletion of content", it was removed before and discussed in the talk before too, a user came on my talk page and said he has given correct sources for it, however when I checked back, I couldn't see any correct sources as such, yet. -- - K a s h Talk | email 16:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Immigration protests

Thanks for keeping the "scare" stuff out of the 2006 U.S. immigration reform protests article. By any chance have you taken a look at my comment about the terms "illegal", "unauthorized", and "undocumented"? I know I should have brought the issues up on the talk to illegal immigration, and perhaps I will copy them there...--Rockero 20:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I will be busy all day tomorrow. That's why I was hoping we could get it taken care of today, because if everything works out well, it should go on the front page tomorrow. Regardless, can I ask you to please keep an eye on it tomorrow? Thanks, --Rockero 03:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up...

But it looks like I was beaten to that welcome. Keep up the great work! Kukini 05:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Great American Boycott vulgarity and racist comments

Hello, I got your name from the list of Admins. I have a question. I don't like removing things from discussion pages but somebody has recently posted a very vulgar, racist comment with links to White Supremist websites at this talk page. Can these be deleted? If you could take a look, it's under the subsection "I Agree". Thanks.--WilliamThweatt 17:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody already deleted the comments as "trolling". I didn't do it because I just wasn't sure if it was proper. If you can take a look at the edit history here and maybe leave a message on my talk page explaining under what circumstances comments can be deleted from talk pages, I'd appreciate the enlightenment and I won't have to bother admins in the future. Thanks.--WilliamThweatt 17:18, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, there are no hard rules about what should be deleted from talk pages, but I agree this is a pretty easy case of something being ok to revert [1]. The civility policy is probably worth reading to get a very general idea of what is acceptable behaviour on any page, but that includes talk pages as well. Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines might be helpful also, but most of those guidelines are more for resolution between people acting in good faith. That particular edit though, I would almost classify as vandalism, and of course that can be reverted wherever it shows up. If you have any other questions let me know. I doubt many people will yell at you for reverting people screaming racial slurs though, they shouldn't anyway. Your experiences may vary in practice though if you mainly work on more contentious articles, nevertheless, people should remain civil. :) - cohesion 18:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tools

Find on my userpage a list of tools and other Wikipedia protocol for your use. Martial Law 05:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC) :) Go ahead and make yourself a copy. Martial Law 05:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC) :)[reply]

your voted needed

Please go here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination). I voted for delete. You may also want to (if that's your preference) Merecat 08:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About

"..at risk of being flamed again by Kash.."...

Look, there is no reason why you can not be WP:Civil. Try to keep relaxed and do not talk like that about other editors. It's easy and it makes contribution a much better experience -- - K a s h Talk | email 18:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]



Thanks for keeping an eye on that page. We need more WP:AGF at more articles more often. - Sal 09:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Will :). I put this article up for peer review. I'd like your opinion, my friend. --RogerK 04:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Obscenity'

This is a bit silly, now, don't you think? The original article said, 'Some advocates of not voting for Hillary Clinton in 2008, point out that she's a mother fucking dyke on a motherfucking plane with some motherfucking snakes.' In that context, me saying 'motherfucking' once can hardly be construed as an attack against anyone, let alone the creator of the article. Now, if you'd said it was an attack against the person who deleted it (since I said 'motherfucking deletion'), I could see your logic (I wouldn't agree though) but I simply can't bring myself round to understand why it'd be an attack against the article creator. And English not being my first language has absolutely nothing to do with it, thank you very much.

You know, perhaps we would both be much more useful to the project if we didn't spend our time arguing about one tiny little word that can't possibly harm anyone. - ulayiti (talk) 10:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for your kind note. I do intend to expand the Potato Judge page, and respectfully request it not be speedily deleted. Its notability is that the character has become a cult figure among Conan O'Brien fans and, as noted in the article, a metaphor in the Conan fan community for a cruel or arbitrary person or process. A Google search supports this.

DHeller

Thanks for the update!

DHeller

Cleanup tag at Ranulf of Alife

Why the cleanup tag? I removed it because I can see nothing wrong. If you'll please just post at the talk page the reasons for the tage so that the article can be cleaned up, please add the tage back. Thankyou. Srnec 05:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello William Thweatt. On the article itself page 19 but on the PDF-reader page 24. Also I think it is not only his own estimation but he mentions a source for that. Besides there are many scholars supporting this high growing population issue. Thanks. Wirya 15:47, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Country Music

Thanks for signing up at WikiProject Country Music! I see you've made some contributions to the articles on Kenny Chesney and Gretchen Wilson. That's good, too, because the wikiproject could use some more active members who know a little about contemporary music. (It seems like the project has been focusing too much on the more traditional artists and neglecting the newer ones.) We're really just getting started, though. As the project grows, we will hopefully attract more editors who have knowledge in the various subgenres of country. Feel free to join in the discussion on the project talk page if you have any questions or comments. Once again, thanks! --TantalumTelluride 02:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism warning

Hi, that wasn't vandalism. Just an edit conflict. :P -- Shizane talkcontribs 20:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize, I realized that and meant to hit the "Rollback" button, but hit the "Rollback test1-n" button by mistake. I immediately removed the misplaced warning from your talk page. No offense, friend.--WilliamThweatt 20:12, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your vandalism policy is to excessive

You simply reverted my edits automatically on page Chosen people without having a look at it's contents. 63.225.118.147 00:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I never revert without first analyzing the content. Below is the text that you inserted which I reverted. I assume the reasons are obvious (the last sentence, in particular):
"Another example is that some Neo-Nazi groups believe that their members have supernatural powers that come from God because they are Aryan race. Altough some of them have such powers indeed it is very rare."--WilliamThweatt 01:19, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Warriors girding for battle

You might be interested to note that Fellow-edit is assembling the troops to do edit war upon us "liberals" over at Ann Coulter. I'm of the opinion that this sort of behavior violates the spirit, if not the letter, of WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Kasreyn 23:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. You and lawyer2b have been absolutely impeccably polite and constructive at that article. Kasreyn 23:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hilarious reply to Fellow-edit by Jchap, who points out the self-described "newbie" who mysteriously already knows how to use templates and vote in AfD's. :P Kasreyn 00:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Elders was interviewed for that episode and said those exact quotes. I watched the episode and verified them. --waffle iron talk 00:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that wasn't evident in the wording. They appeared to be extraneous quotes by the comedians themselves. However, there's another problem, your "verification" by watching the show qulifies as Original Research. Technically, we need a third-party source to cite quotes.--WilliamThweatt 01:02, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Television shows are sources just like books and newspapers are. Are you saying it would be wrong to cite something said on CNN? I don't think so. --waffle iron talk 01:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Only if you can prove that it was indeed said, whether it be on CNN or ComedyCentral, otherwise all we have is your word--and that is not how an encyclopaedia is compiled. I quote from the Wikipedia:No original research policy: "...it is essential that any primary-source material, as well as any generalization, analysis, synthesis, interpretation, or evaluation of information or data, has been published by a reputable third-party publication (that is, not self-published) that is available to readers either from a website (other than Wikipedia) or through a public library." You have to be able to point to a written transcript (published by somebody other than yourself) of what was said.--WilliamThweatt 01:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I went to the Penn and Teller Bullshit site, watched the episode preview video and added a relevant quote she said in that clip. I linked to the video after the quote. That work? --waffle iron talk 01:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's all I was asking for. Very thorough and commendable work.--WilliamThweatt 02:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's alright.

I'm actually a guy, but people seem to come to that conclusion a lot... it's happened so often I've gotten fairly used to it. I'm not upset. Kasreyn 02:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Request

Greetings WilliamThweat!

Can you please kindly help me create this article which is based on this English article. Just 2-6 lines would be sufficient enough and your help would be very gratefully appreciated. (I do not know what the correct Khmer title should be).

Best Regards -- Jose77, 05:20 Wednesday 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposal

Check out Wikipedia:Naming conventions (immigration).--Rockero 21:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Needed: Another Ann Coulter Fix

This time the first eight or so Notes are messed up. Looks like some more ref tag stuff, but I'm not yet skilled with the Wiki version of ref tags. Lou Sander 03:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Masashi Tashiro

Hello, I read on the Hatto's RfC that you plan to clean up the Masashi Tashiro article. If you could have a look at my changes of the article (obviously reverted by hatto) and, if you approve of the changes, revert it to that version to start off with, I'd be thankful. If I did it myself I would break the 3RR. Of course, I ask you to do it only if you approve of the changes I made, I'm asking you because if you make worthwhile changes I won't be able to simply revert it to my version which is at least a small step towards cleaning up the article. Thank you Mackan 10:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review for Myanmar

Hello, I have begun a peer review for Myanmar. Please express your opinions at Wikipedia:Peer review/Myanmar. Thank you. Hintha 21:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


RE Clan Morrison

Good on you for having a go at rewriting it. There were a couple of things which immediately stuck out when i read through it ; first of all the fact that the first two paragraphs are the same, repeated in different sections and secondly that there were statements sitting about which ended with exclamation marks! which really isnt encyclopedic at all. Anyway the article looks a lot better after your edits, well done.siarach 19:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Myanmar article

Hello. I've tried to condense the History section in the article, and I've added some more paragraphs about music and cuisine in the Culture section. Can you help copyedit the History section further, and perhaps add more information in the Geography section? I don't know what else to leave out from the History section, and I'm not that knowledgable in the Geography of Myanmar.

What else should be added to the lead section? WikiProject Countries advises the following:

The article should start with a good introduction, giving name of the country, location in the world, bordering countries, seas and the like. Also give other names by which the country may still be known (for example Holland, Persia). Also, add a few facts about the country, the things that it is known for (for example the mentioning of windmills in the Netherlands article).
If the etymology of a country's name is too long to explain in the lead section, split it out into a separate section (titled "Name" or similar). Naming disputes can also be handled in separate sections.

Should the most well-known Burmese figures (Aung San Suu Kyi, U Thant, Aung San) be mentioned here? Or should Myanmar's ethnic and linguistic diversity or Burmese culture be mentioned? Hintha 01:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the analysis and links. Having only had a cursory look at his contribs, in the context of wondering "WTF is he spamming my talk page with a paragraph of incoherent shouting?", I did consider whether he might just a clueless newbie enraged by some editing dispute, but that looks far worse, as you say. At least that account's no longer an issue... Alai 03:25, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. :) But it looks like another admin blocked him already. --Woohookitty(meow) 22:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I had started to spot your name a lot too!

Peer review excellent idea, and there are absolutely tons of Scotland-interested editors. Spread the word here too:

If you are super, super keen, then you could send round a quick memo to all these folk:

If we do Peer review, then I will also stick a note up on the "Wikipedia" box at the Portal (or you can do it yourself, remember: "anyone can edit"; Wikipedia:Be bold):

I totally agree that References are a major problem with the article at present; and my own pet bugbear is that it is far too long (especially the History section) at 58 kilobytes (recommended is 32, although major articles like this can be a bit longer). Surely the latter can be sorted by shunting off more stuff to subsidiary articles, or creating a few new sub articles. The first one is a bigger problem: we have asked for References on the Talk page before, but only a few (mainly religion I seem to remember) were supplied.

Have a look at the already FAC'd Scotland-related articles at the notice board (History of Scotland was recently de-FAC'd).

I look forward to working with you and hopefully many others on this task. --Mais oui! 09:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Talk:Scotland#.2AWikipedia:Version_1.0_Nominations_-_Peer_review.3F. --Mais oui! 09:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pages listed on Categories for deletion

Discussion on CFD - proposal to merge all subcats of Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Scottish constituencies up into the main cat. Relevant categories which would be deleted are:

I think that this is a rather important discussion for editors interested in Scotland-related articles, especially Scottish politics and Scottish biographical articles (particularly local history). Please have a read and ponder, and contribute to the debate if you like. Thanks. --Mais oui! 18:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would also be relevant in this context to consider the discussions in the parent category for the UK parliament: Category talk:British MPs. I find it regrettable that Mais oui! has engaged in a restructuring of that category without entering into the discussions there. --BrownHairedGirl 18:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi William, just been reading your thoughtful comments on the CFM. Dual classification would seem to me to be be perfectly acceptable and sensible compromise, which meets everyone's concerns, but unfortunately that is not on offer: User:Mais oui! insists on deleting any such dual classification. Since dual classication is not going to be possible, may I ask whether you would like to conside changing your vote back to 'merge'? --BrownHairedGirl 15:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mmmmm.....

Okaaayyy. You are displeased. I have an excuse for my "aggression", as you put it, but like all excuses it is pretty lame, so I won't rehearse it on you. I do try my best, but sometimes some folk would try the patience of an angel, and I am very, very, very far from one of those. Believe it or not, I am actually an awful lot less aggressive than I used to be! Frightening. --Mais oui! 18:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! No offense intended, friend. I wouldn't (and didn't) say "displeased". Everybody has their own sytle. I don't see anything wrong with "aggressive" editing, in and of itself. And I also said, I tend to agree with most of your more "controversial" edits. However, personally, I have found that making unilateral changes while others are still trying to reach a consensus is usually counterproductive. It backs the others into a corner, and they're forced to argue their position defensively which, (whether because of pride or other reasons) makes it more difficult or, indeed, sometimes impossible, to find common ground. So, in order to avoid the inevitable edit wars, wiki-enemies, and wiki-stalking that occurs in these situations, I like to encourage everybody to reach consensus first on contentious edits. Now, as for the current situation, I think your sub-categorizing by constituency could be useful and sould remain, however, I also think it is important to keep them dually listed in the upper-level category to maintain a list of all UK MPs representing Scotland. This is not only permitted, but I believe encouraged by WP:SUBCAT. I think it is a logical compromise and it seems BrownHairedGirl is willing to go along with it.--WilliamThweatt 20:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

English grammar

I'm not one to engage in an edit war over grammar. To me it makes very little diffrence. However, in the Wikipedia universe it seems to lean towards the plural. And there are a great many British Wikipedians who make it their "Wiki-goal" to make sure that there's a 'U' in humour, rumour, behaviour and favour...that it's authorised and not authorized...and that collective nouns are treated as plural. As a Canadian we use UK spelling but tend to use collectives in the singular. If there are UK/US spelling/grammar battle throughout the article the "Wiki rule" is: American subject-American grammar/spelling....Non-American subject-UK English spelling/grammar. I am simply falling in with the how other articles are treated. If I had time, I'd copyedit the entire article(plus many others). There are several Admins who are language experts who could provide a much better mediation than I can. I will check in with them to see just what the Wikipedia policy is. In the end as long as the article is written in an encyclopedic form and not written like a teen magazine article(which many of the music articles are) would be fine with me. I saw Led Zeppelin in concert 3 times in the early 70s. I keep the article in my VandalProof watchlist because it gets hit so often. A nice barrage of positives edits would be a welcomed change. And ignore Ishmaelblues' comment on the LZ talk page. He's ruffled enough Wiki-feathers that, somewhere along the way, he got himself VP Blacklisted. I doubt you'll see very much in the line of positive contribution where he is concerned. He recently did a cut/paste job on the LZ article to try and soapbox their "borrowing" of music/lyrics from blues artists. It was a copyvio that got rv'd quickly thanks to someone doing some internet snooping. I don't think he has the articles best interests in mind. Cheers and take care! Anger22 22:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ann Coulter

Reverting "Name calling and Original Research???" Sometimes it seems as though most of the article is name calling and Original Research. There needs to be a WikiGossipColumn where all this stuff can end up. ;-) Lou Sander 01:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Fix

Thanks for formatting my edit over at Michael Savage. I'll keep your comments in mind. Take care and again thanks. Delta x 18:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cambodian literature

I did a search for "Khmer literature" and also "Cambodian literature" and was amazed to find that no articles exist in Wikipedia. Do you know somebody who could work on this? --- Jakob Dempsey, YZU, Taiwan

Thanks

I'm still on my Wikibreak, just checking from a library computer, and I noticed that you reverted some vandalism to my userpage. I appreciate that. I noticed that the vandal was claiming both you and Scientizzle were my socks... any idea what that's all about? The only page I can think of that all three of us edit is Intelligent Design (and related pages). In any case, thanks.  :) Kasreyn 22:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I should be online permanently soon, for now I'm still checking from the library occasionally. Thanks for continuing to keep an eye on my userpage. I appreciate it.  :) Kasreyn 18:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pre-script: we are currently undergoing peer review, see: Wikipedia:Peer review/Scotland.

I am beginning to think that the Scottish Wikipedians' notice board is not the best vehicle for pushing up the quality of the Scotland article (we ought to try to get it to WP:FA, in order to get into Wikipedia:Version 0.5, or, failing that, Wikipedia:Version 1.0), and the other key Scottish articles. It is becoming increasingly obvious to me that we really ought to start up the long-mooted WikiProject Scotland.

Most of the stuff at the notice board (at least on the bottom half) is actually WikiProject material anyway, and the Talk page is really being used as a WikiProject talk already! The notice board should be just that: for bunging up brief notices and signposts. I am thinking of launching a Wikiproject and correspondingly radically clearing out, and chopping down, the noticeboard (a re-launch if you like). The Scotland Portal concept is fine (but currently mediocre/undynamic content), but in stasis: it needs a good kick up the jacksie.

For comparison, have a look at:

And, if you are at a loose end, have a look at:

Thoughts? Please express them here. --Mais oui! 20:06, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert of User:Tregoweth on this article reinserted poorly linked (external links instead of wikilinks) and copyrighted material (a cut and paste job from the Fox News website) originally inserted by User:Zonerocks. I'm sure this was an innocent mistake, but please be more careful when you dive into an edit war. Gamaliel 16:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hank Williams article

Please feel free to continue working on the Hank WIlliams collaboration or go ahead and choose a new article. The collaboration started out pretty well, but then I got distracted and everyone else just wandered away and left the article alone. If you do choose a new collaboration, you probably shouldn't worry about setting a time frame, since the fifteen-day time frame didn't quite work for the Hank Williams collaboration. I wish I could help, but I'm much too busy with other things. Hopefully I will be able to help out soon. Thanks. --TantalumTelluride 21:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3rr

If Calgacus or you is allowed to revert so many times, then so am I. You do not have some higher placing on Wikipedia trhat allows you ot break the same 3rr rule while others are not. 69.157.126.241 02:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What ?

What do you mean ? I did not have an account so I created one. What am I doing wrong here. Eoganan 05:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]