User talk:331dot/Archive 3

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Re article

@331dot its not made up in one day. Did you even read it. It began in 2014! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABCmootje (talk • contribs) 18:01, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't have to have been made up today to be made up. The point of the tag is that there are no independent reliable sources indicating how it is notable. 331dot (talk) 18:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

AfD

An AfD in which you may be interested is located here. LavaBaron (talk) 00:26, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Pot Stew Drew

Hello, I'm a bit new to editing on wikipedia but I was wondering if you could help me. I created a page about a New York based musician and between you and the user "Bongwarrior" it was deleted. I tried talking to Bong Warrior and being reasonable but he's only returned my questions with snark and rudeness. I know the page was rough but I was in the process of editing it. Is there any way you could unlock wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_Stew_Drew in order for me to flesh out the full article? And if so could you prevent "Bongwarrior" from further harassing me and tampering with the page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Potstewfan (talk • contribs)

@Potstewfan: I am not an administrator and I have no power to unlock a page, and even if I did, I would not do so here. 331dot (talk) 03:43, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

DMBGROUP

Hi, got your message. Not a company but have requested for username change. Sorry for the confusion, thank you.

ITNC

And stuff like this is not infinitely more tendendtious? If you scroll down he bleeped another comment too. This one flagrantly PROVES the deception he wanted to whitewash as he has no counter-point.Lihaas (talk) 12:52, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

All I know is that there are appropriate forums to take other users to about their conduct if you desire. You shouldn't use nominations to do that; as you are essentially doing what you are complaining someone else is doing. You should be the bigger person if indeed you are being wronged. 331dot (talk) 12:54, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I was nominating Wogan then got edit-conflicted with Andrew so I replaced his nom (which I guess beat mine by a few seconds), then upon reviewing the article it was clear that it was far from suitable at that time. No idea why the illegible ranting took place. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:57, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders

Since it takes (at least) two parties to edit war, I believe you forgot to warn the troll who started this edit war. WP:POINT is still a behavioral guideline, isn't it? — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 22:52, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Please review WP:BRD, which is how things are supposed to work. You made a change(while invalidly calling someone a "troll"), it was reverted- it then should have been discussed, but instead you reverted again. You can only control your own behavior. 331dot (talk) 23:15, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Wrong and wrong. Look at my first edit summary—I did discuss it before I reverted it. Per BRD, the other editor started a discussion (as he should have), but then he discussed also reverted. Has it become BRDR? And wrong once again—while BRD is an essay, POINT is still a policy guideline.

But you're right about one thing: you control your own behavior, and your choice to take the troll's side speaks volumes. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 23:29, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

As does your snap judgements of other users as "trolls", a word you toss around far too easily. But you seem to know all about Wikipedia so I guess I don't need to say any more. 331dot (talk) 23:39, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Mayor of Reno

Dear 331dot

Thank you for the feedback. Could you direct me to where I might be able to submit my article for review? I want to add much more to the article but I am new to Wikipedia.

Thank you for your time,

rkarkasRkarkas (talk) 18:56, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@Rkarkas: The first thing that you should do is post on your user page (click your username at the top of the screen) your conflict of interest(something like "I am Rkarkas and I work for/intern for Hillary Schieve/Mayor's office of Reno, Nevada") If you are being paid Wikipedia's Terms of Use require you to declare that as well.

Since the page has already been created, I would suggest that you discuss any major changes to the page on its talk page (Talk:Hillary Schieve). You can post there like you did here, explaining what you want to do(possibly even draft your proposed change) and what the source of the information is. If you post the following exactly as you see it- {{help me}}- on the page, someone will eventually come along and see your post. Keep in mind that we cannot simply take your word for something like awards Mayor Schieve has won; it must be written about somewhere; an important principle of Wikipedia is verifiability.

If you have any questions about this or any of the information that is posted on your user talk page, please ask.(If you don't wish to ask me, you can visit the Help Desk.) This probably all seems like a lot of information and I don't intend it to come off as harsh, though it might seem like it. I apologize- my only interest here is helping you do what needs to be done so you avoid difficulty in the future. 331dot (talk) 03:51, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Bruce ruben

FWIW, it's probably not a copyvio since it's the text of the old deleted article (full disclosure: I tagged it for deletion) and I don't think that was tagged as a copyvio from anywhere. As for promotional editing and sockpuppetry (that page was created under a different account), well...

@Blythwood: I understand; thanks for clarifying that for me. 331dot (talk) 22:02, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Indeed. I am this close to opening a sockpuppet investigation, since the creator of that page was Rabbijason, whose contribs history and talk page are both worth a look... Blythwood (talk) 22:04, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Looking at it quickly, it seems like it would be worth a look. IMO you should go ahead. 331dot (talk) 22:06, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Doing it now. Done here. Blythwood (talk) 22:08, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Junoloara

Junoloara is my profille i was only anwser the questions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junoloara (talk • contribs) 17:31, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank You @331dot

Thanks for the tips. All I'm trying to do is add factual information about Picture This to the List of NZ bands. I don't know how much more credible Wiki expects one to be than newspaper articles etc that I'm trying to add. I am the most reliable source of info for Picture This NZ Australia. It seems it is almost impossible to add to Wikipedia even though we have our photo on Wikimedia commons and photos on music sites such as Reverb Nation. Beautybeaut1 (talk) 02:56, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank You for your help. I also see that Picture This information has been added to the List of NZ Bands. This is great because all the information provided is factual. Please retain it. Yes, I do understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Thank You again. I have a picture of the band that I uploaded to Wiki commons but it may be too technically difficult for me to upload it here. I have been signed up here for far longer than 4 days, as well. I'm just happy to have been able to get this far, because the NZ band scene is not factually complete until all the bands that were present in its musical history are listed and accounted for. Beautybeaut1 (talk) 03:37, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank You for all your suggestions. Delete this factual article if you feel that you have to. This information is up on other music sites, as it rightfully should be. It is a part of NZ's music history. I feel that Wikipedia is an incomplete and poor source for information on this very subject if it excludes popular bands who actually existed. I found the Wikipedia experience and process of trying to simply add a band called Picture This to a list of nz bands virtually impossible, due to the pedantic nature of nitpicker, who need to apply some reality and sensibility. The list of NZ bands is horribly incomplete as there are so many bands not even listed here. My own experience of trying to get a band listed may offer a clue as to why. The comment that I am too close to the band Picture This is wrong, as any relationship to the band took place 30 years ago and newspaper clippings have not been written by me. The comment that I am trying to promote the band is also incorrect. It is a little bit difficult to promote something that I am a longer a part of.

Beautybeaut1 (talk) 06:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

@Beautybeaut1: Understand that I have no power to delete anything; only administrators can make that decision. I'm truly sorry you feel offended and have had a bad experience; no offense or bad intentions have been intended by me; in fact, I am simply trying to help you avoid problems with conflict of interest and other issues. There are reasons Wikipedia has the policies and guidelines that it does, which is to ensure a better encyclopedia. This isn't just a site where anyone can post anything about any subject without the ability to verify it. I would love to be able to take your word for what you claim; but can you see how that might be problematic? What if someone claiming to be John Key wanted to write his article without verifiable information? Can you see the issues others might have with that?

If, as you state, your band is part of New Zealand music history, it should be easy to find independent sources. (Did the band meet any of the notability criteria?) If you have newspaper clippings or articles, that would be sufficient- in which case you just need to properly cite them in the page. It would be nice if the newspaper articles were online, but that is not necessary; what matters is that they are cited. I would be willing to direct you to the instructions on how to do so if you wish. My only concerns here is that articles are properly cited and that any conflict of interest issues are minimized. Again, I'm sorry for giving you offense, but I only wish to help. 331dot (talk) 11:44, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank You so much for your contribution to the deletion of a factually correct piece of information about NZ 80s band Picture This. Picture This was one of the top 5% of bands gigging and touring the North Island of NZ in the early 1980s. They have a rightful place on the List of NZ Bands, which is incomplete without bands who were present in NZ's musical history. The Reverb Nation site of the then Vocalist, Lianne Rowe which is available when you Google it, has press clippings from NZ and Australian newspapers in the photos section to verify the now deleted article.

I'm sorry, I did not appreciate your example, in particular the use of John Key, which I thought seemed like advertising for the NZ National Party. You could have given me a musical example instead. Beautybeaut1 (talk) 03:47, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

I am truly sorry you feel bad, but given that someone else actually deleted the article, they must have agreed that it did not meet the notability criteria for bands, or at least it did not appear to. As I have indicated, the best way to keep an article is to make sure it has independent reliable sources. If what you claim is true, I would think that would not be difficult for this band. Please review those pages I have linked to for more information. If you have such sources, and can show how the notability guidelines are met, there is no reason the page cannot be created again. I wish you luck 331dot (talk) 07:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry but this whole process is irrational and convoluted. The person who removed the piece of factual information, has problems and hasn't identified themselves to me either. When I added a link where people could find original newspaper article sources I was then told I was promoting myself, which I am not. I'm seriously not going to bother with Wiki anymore. What a shocking fiasco. Beautybeaut1 (talk) 03:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

PS. You mentioned notability criteria, however the List of NZ bands contains bands who have no notability whatsoever. That list is not a credible source for NZ music because it has huge holes and omissions in it. It cannot be taken seriously. What a terrible experience this has been. Beautybeaut1 (talk) 03:53, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Why should something that was factually correct the first time around need to be rewritten? People don't spend hours of their time researching and compiling information, to have it removed. I really don't need your luck, thank you. I don't need 'luck', for something rightfully and factually correct to begin with. Please don't contact me again. Beautybeaut1 (talk) 04:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Very well, though you contacted me, not the other way around. Agan, I am sorry that you have not had a good experience. I am still willing to help you- but you do need to understand the policies and guidelines Wikipedia has, and that it is not like other sites where people can post anything they wish. If you feel that some of the bands listed on the page you mention do not meet the notability criteria, you have the right to suggest their deletion. If you do want help in posting information about your band, I am willing. You can also contact the deleting administrator for an explanation and possibly restoring the text to your personal sandbox to work on it further. 331dot (talk) 11:37, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia

331dot,

I am new to Wikipedia and did not realize that the GOM link was listed under References, and I tried to add it to External Links. Just curious, why would it not be under References just like the other two items?

Also, I would like to add an ANALYSIS section whereby sub-topics related to the referendum can be added. Will you be setting this up, would you prefer me to take a try at it?

Thank you and regards, Alex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twa236ZY (talk • contribs) 22:07, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

@Twa236ZY: The External links section of a page like that is not meant for every group that has a position on the issue, which is not generally permitted; generally they will just contain links to the leading groups advocating an issue. There really isn't one for opponents of the background check referendum yet, but SAM has been more vocal about their position(at least in reliable sources) so I have put theirs to provide a link to that viewpoint. The Gun Owners of Maine's position on the issue is certainly relevant as an endorsement, but until/unless they take the lead on opposing the question they shouldn't be listed as an external link. 331dot (talk) 23:03, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

I would say I highly doubt The Maine Wire would be considered a reliable source as it is the media arm of the Maine Heritage Policy Center, an organization to advance conservative views and causes. 331dot (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry 331dot - Trying to Learn Wikipedia

331dot, I was trying to add some additional references, but may have messed things up. I will try to clean things up but may need your help to re-establish some things. Regards,Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twa236ZY (talk • contribs) 22:39, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

No problem. If you wish, you can describe the references you are trying to put on the article talk page(Talk:Maine background checks referendum, 2016) and we can maybe work something out or help you. 331dot (talk) 23:05, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Dear 331dot, To try to avoid more problems I will spend a few days studying how Wikipedia works, how to properly edit, the proper etiquette, etc... I have a lot of factual information regarding this referendum that I would like to share with everyone, but I want to do it right and not cause problems. Alex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twa236ZY (talk • contribs) 04:19, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

If you have any questions, I would be willing to answer them(or help you to find the answer). 331dot (talk) 07:30, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

IP 87.154.210.6

Is this acceptable? --WaltCip (talk) 01:55, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

No. Can't say I'm surprised given their other comment that I removed. I'm not sure how to proceed(if anything needs to be done) 331dot (talk) 07:23, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Catching up now, I see that the person was blocked. 331dot (talk) 07:33, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Bookclip

Hello 331dot,

Approximately 10 hours ago, I received an email indicating that you have chosen to remove the page I have created, called Bookclip. As it was in the middle of the night at the part of the world I am currently in, I did not even get a chance to respond before it was swiftly removed altogether, after great deal of worked invested in it. For some reason, it was very urgent for you to remove it, stating that that the page would be "speedily deleted," as if the page was discussing some horrific topics.

My company had created a product called Bookclip, which is in the process of being patented in the USA (CAS2850-002 - Filing receipt, attached is the Filing Receipt from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office verifying that the above-referenced application was filed on November 12, 2014 and has been assigned U.S. Provisional Patent Application No. 62/078,566.). We have also purchased the domain Bookclip.com for a small fortune. As could be indicated from the name itself, the Bookclip platform, which is completely FREE, allows users to create enhanced digital books that combine text, photos, animation and video clips into an interactive experience. These platform was created for users with no skill in coding or design whatsoever and could be of great service to various communities, not to mention - in the field of literature and education. Removing it without even investigating what Bookclip is, was quite harsh, which is why I ask for your help in adding it back to Wikipedia. To the best of our knowledge, we did not blow our own horn and did not used words such as "amazing, brilliant, superior" etc. to promote our technology; we simply wanted to clarify what the technology was and what it could be used for. The marketplace we have created for the interactive books is also free and consist of many social capabilities such as sharing, ranking and commenting on users' content, much like in this Wikipedia platform.

You may refer to a 2 minute video of the product, if it is still unclear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzIt5yZBnbA

I have no doubt that once you see this video, it would give you a better sense of what Bookclip does and how the content of that video defers from the content written on the Wikipedia page, from a promotional standpoint. Some of the biggest companies of the world have used this technology which gives it great credibility; you may want to check it out - I was sure to include references to their press releases. I am referring of course to companies such as DreamWorks Animation and Sony Pictures.

I sincerely look forward to hear back from you and hope that you would do right by us. If you do feel that something about the text was off, that is completely understandable, but please be more specific if you wish for us to understand what is unacceptable, and indicate what you need us to change about the page.

My kindest personal regards,

Gil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gil Abramovich (talk • contribs) 10:10, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Please understand that while I initiated the process, it was an administrator that ultimately decided to delete the page. I believe everything you say about the product; that is not the issue. I tagged the page as promotional because it did little more than describe the product and did not indicate with independent reliable sources how the platform met notability guidelines. It is possible to be promotional without blatant advertising. Learning that you are associated with the platform, I must inform you about the clear conflict of interest in writing about something that your company has made. In such a case, it is still possible for you to get an article posted, but you should not do so directly- you should use the Articles for Creation process which allows for outside review to ensure that any conflict of interest is addressed.

I must also inform you that if you are a paid employee of the company, Wikipedia's Terms of Use require you to clearly state that on your userpage; please see this page for more information.

I am sure this must have been disappointing for you and it is not my intention to cause you bad feelings or difficulty; simply to see that things are done the right way and to help avoid problems. I would suggest that you review the pages I have linked to in this post as it will help you if you wish there to be an encyclopedic article about your product. As I indicated, a good way for you to proceed would be to visit Articles for Creation which can help you create a page and reduce any conflict of interest(by allowing for outside review). If you have any further questions I can attempt to answer them the best I know how. Best wishes 331dot (talk) 18:51, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

I would add that if you would like the article text recovered for you to use as a starting point for recreating the page with independent reliable sources, you can ask the deleting administrator or visit WP:REFUND to request it. 331dot (talk) 18:53, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

331dot - Thank you so much for your understanding, your patience and for elaborating on the process. At the end of the day, the product will be of great service for the entire community as it is highly productive and free. I do feel however that it is vital to explain what it is for and how to use it, as this platform is quite enormous and has many components to it.

Per your comments, please allow me to absorb your input and to resubmit. Would you kindly explain how do we go about creating the term again? Do we have to refer to the old page or simply start fresh?

Much obliged,

Gil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gil Abramovich (talk • contribs) 07:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The first thing you must do is post on your user page (click your username at the top of the screen) regarding your association with this product, and the fact that you are an employee of the company that produces Bookclip. Wikipedia's Terms of Use require this- and other editors will look upon you much more favorably if you are up front about the conflict of interest here.

I would then suggest visiting Articles for Creation where there is a process to draft and submit articles for review by uninvolved editors before final posting as an article. When you visit that page, you can click the "Click here to create an article now" which will get you started. If you want to use your original text as a starting point, you can request that it be transferred to you(probably your Sandbox) to use as a reference point, as I describe above- though you don't have to if you don't want to.

Please understand that those who review your page submission will expect it to have reliable sources indicating how the subject is notable. You may wish to review those pages to get an idea of what is being looked for.331dot (talk) 21:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Dear Sir / Madam

@331dot's please check this article and there are lot's of articles like this!: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Wagner_(software) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irfibaig (talk • contribs) 15:08, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Every article is evaluated on its own merits; the fact that others in your field have an article does not mean you automatically merit one. Also, generally persons are not permitted to write articles about themselves due to conflict of interest issues. You have also essentially posted your resume, which is a form of promotion. All articles must have independent reliable sources indicating how the subject is notable. If you truly feel that you merit an encyclopedic article, you should submit one through Articles for Creation where it can be reviewed by others before posting. 331dot (talk) 15:20, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Review my draft before moving it

I just tried moving a plain document to a Wikipedia page. Immediately a COI flag was raised. Luckily, this was for a subsidiary topic of my Draft page. Will you please review my draft page and assist me in allowing it to be moved to a published Wikipedia page? Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:National_Kidney_Registry

Thanks,

ThomasNKR (talk) 22:19, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I've made a comment on the Draft's talk page; further discussion can take place there. 331dot (talk) 22:38, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Do you receive alerts when I update the Draft's talk page? I updated it. ThomasNKR (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

The page is on my watch list, though as I indicated, discussion can take place on its talk page. 331dot (talk) 22:27, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

How come I am unable to edit or view the source of this wiki article? I wish to move this article, however before doing so I wish to save a copy of the source markup in case my page is deleted.

ThomasNKR (talk) 03:05, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Solomon Gilbert page

Hi dot331, thank you for responding to the article so quickly. Have read all the guidelines and know how slippery a slope it is to write about oneself and have taken as many precautionary measures as possible to ensure NPOV and all other compliance, however am relatively new to wiki so still learning! Thank you once again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SolomonGilbert (talk • contribs) 14:35, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

RE: Welcome

Thank you kindly for the advise. Is there any more advise you can give me? I hope to be improving the community as much as possible. --SolomonGilbert (talk) 14:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if I have any specific advice to give you at this time, but the welcome page provides some basic information that is good to know. If you want you could also do the Wikipedia Adventure which helps to introduce Wikipedia in a better way than just reading about it. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

"Democratization" in the given context is totally meaningless

Please restore the deletion request, the condition of ghiberrish is clearly given, look at the etymology of 'democracy' and be rational in your decisions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.156.126.230 (talk • contribs)

See my reply on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Arean Time Zone System

I'm trying to understand how this article does not comply with the Wikipedia notability guidelines. I removed the notability warning because I didn't think it was valid, and I'm unsure as to how to resolve a problem that doesn't seem to exist. Could you please shed some more light upon this or remove the notability warning if I am correct? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deanlittle (talk • contribs) 03:31, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@Deanlittle: Right now the page seems to be you posting your own proposal/theory about timekeeping on Mars. That is original research and not what Wikipedia is for; per the General Notability Guideline articles must be shown to be notable with independent reliable sources. You may also want to review conflict of interest since this seems to be your proposal. If you have independent reliable sources (news stories, journals written by others, books, etc. not written by someone associated with you) please offer them on the article's talk page. It may also be better to further discuss any issues there. 331dot (talk) 10:49, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Bio for Qwes1

Hello, I wanted to create an Artist page. I'm Qwes1, an underground Emcee from San Antonio, Tx. what do I have to do to get posted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegent210 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Please note that autobiographies are strongly discouraged due to conflict of interest issues. This is not social media, but an encyclopedia where article subjects must be shown to be notable with independent reliable sources. I'll also note that the page you created about yourself promotes your mixtape ("on sale now") and Wikipedia is not for promotional purposes. If you truly feel you meet the notability guidelines for music and merit a page, I would suggest visiting Articles for Creation where you can submit a page for review to minimize any COI issues. 331dot (talk) 18:41, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Mahaveer Group speedy

Left a note on the talk page here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mahaveer_Group_-_RSPL#Contested_deletion about the issues with the page, in case the page is removed before you see it a previous version of the article was moved to draft space by an admin here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mahaveer_Group_-_RSPL. Letting everyone know so we stop getting duplicate versions. JamesG5 (talk) 19:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to make an issue of it publicly, but if there's a way I can message you privately I found some things that might amuse you. Let me know if you're interested. JamesG5 (talk) 09:02, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate the thought, but I'm not really that interested. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

FYI

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Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:46, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

I did see it immediately afterwards; but thank you for informing me. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Happy to help. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:51, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Tagging of User:East London Line/Sandbox

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on User:East London Line/Sandbox. I do not think that User:East London Line/Sandbox fits any of the speedy deletion criteria  because The user has made more than a "few" edits to article space, and the content here could be useful in improving articles about rail stations or service. I request that you consider not re-tagging User:East London Line/Sandbox for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES ^(talk) 17:20, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I understand your reasoning, but I wanted you to know that I had tagged it because it seems to be someone keeping current information on conditions of the London Underground, which doesn't seem to be in keeping with Wikipedia's mission. Examining the user's edit history, they don't seem to have made even one edit in article space in some time, which would indicate that the information is meant to improve an article or articles. If you look at their user talk page, I did post a message requesting clarification, but got no response. 331dot (talk) 17:25, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

That may be, and you may be right about the purpose. But as the user has made at least 125 mainspece edits, even if not recently (I didn't check beyond the 1st page of results), and as the content might be helpful in improving articles, WP:CSD#U5 simply does not apply. You can nominate this for deletion at MfD if you like, However it seems to be doing no harm and not to be an excessive use of resources. DES ^(talk) 17:33, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your reply and I will assure you that I will not retag it with a speedy. 331dot (talk) 23:22, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

I would add that their last edit in the main space was in 2013. I'll still try to see if I can get a reply. 331dot (talk) 23:28, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

It also appears this came up many years ago and resulted in a similar view as you stated. 331dot (talk) 23:33, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Give me 24 hours

Give me 24 hours and I will have my customers write an unbiased Wikipedia page. I'm sorry for promoting myself. I will make it encyclopedic

"Having your customers write" a page is hardly unbiased. The best thing for you to do, if you truly feel your company merits a Wikipedia article(which not every company does) is to submit a page through articles for creation where it can be reviewed before posting. 331dot (talk) 09:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

User:Dr William M Brown

You do realise the page you just CSD'd was a user page, not an article, right? I don't see how copy and pasting one's institutional bio fits G11. I mean, seriously, way to WP:BITE!

(The user is William Brown, by the way.) Joe Roe (talk) 16:39, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I take your word for what you say, although I don't know what you base it on. The passage was worded in such a way that it did not seem like it was written by Brown and meant to promote him; I have a low tolerance for advertising that I see. If it wasn't, then OK, but they made no indication of that. 331dot (talk) 16:41, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

It was a matter of fact bio copied from the faculty page linked at the bottom. Quite an understandable way to population your user page, I think, and quite understandable why it's in the third person.

Can I politely suggest that it would have been a good idea to take a second to think about the context, rather than jumping to the conclusion that it's "advertising" and slapping a scary CSD template and three canned messages on a new user's page 30 seconds after they created it? Joe Roe (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate any and all suggestions and will take it under advisement, though I still feel my response was understandable, even if incorrect, under the circumstances. I also wouldn't expect someone holding a doctorate, since that's who it seems to be, to be so scared by a simple message and would hope they would offer a reply to clear up any confusion I might have had. 331dot (talk) 16:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

NeuronSW

Hi, you nominated NeuronSW for an A7 speedy deletion only 2 minutes after creation. This is excessively hasty, and not giving the creator a chance to finish their writing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:35, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

@Graeme Bartlett: Why did you delete the page if that was the case? 331dot (talk) 01:02, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Because the editor return afterwards and still not show a claim of importance, and it was hours later that I deleted it. Sometimes I will slap a {{hasty}} template on, if the A7 tagging was recent though. Or if I think the topic is good,completely decline the A7 nomination. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Well I can only say that I am more than willing to be corrected and that I don't claim to be a perfect participant here; I try to improve every day and won't stop working at that. 331dot (talk) 01:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

I softerblocked

Sorry I went ahead and blocked here after your template. I blocked then saw it. A quick question. What is that template you used? I feel like an idiot not finding it. I used to use it but for some reason don't see it on the list. I ask because there is a part at the bottom I may disagree with. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:56, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

I used uw-coi-username. I don't know if you use TW but I found it under single warnings near the bottom of the drop down menu. 331dot (talk) 01:05, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Found it Template:Uw-coi-username. I thought that the last part, the "... if you intend to edit here as part of your job, or ..." may be inappropriate, but I am wrong. You are right. Maybe that should even be in the template. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Editor of the Week : nominations needed!

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The list of nominees is running short, and so new nominations are needed for consideration. Have you come across someone in your editing circle who deserves a pat on the back for improving article prose regularly, making it easier to understand? Or perhaps someone has stepped in to mediate a contentious dispute, and did an excellent job. Do you know someone who hasn't received many accolades and is deserving of greater renown? Is there an editor who does lots of little tasks well, such as cleaning up citations?

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Southern Sealing and Services, 331dot.

Unfortunately Kudpung has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

Please review this page again more thoroughly and ten mark it for deletion as apprpriate. Be sure to inform the author so that they can address the issues

To reply, leave a comment on Kudpung's talk page.

May 2016

Hi thank you for you concern. I am not Clancy Davis and am not trying to project myself as him. I assure you I am reading through guidelines, etc. to make sure the process of informing people on him is done in the right way! :) CLANCYDAVIS (talk) 14:46, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

If you are not him, you will need to change your username, which you can do by visiting this page and following the instructions there. You will also need to add more to the page than just a picture, otherwise it could be speedy deleted. 331dot (talk) 14:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Question about a strange edit

I see that you removed a {{db-person}} tag from Jon Sullivan (Kid). The entire text of the article at the time was "Jon Sullivan is a person used to live in London, UK. He went to school at The American School in London. He is a huge Donald Trump supporter. He currently works at the University of Nottingham." Why on earth did you remove the speedy deletion tag? Was it a mistake? The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:48, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

On Talk:Jon Sullivan (Kid) they claim the title was an error and that this person is a scientist, and provided a link to a webpage at the university where this person works. I removed the tag because they indicated they were still working on the page. If you know things that I don't, feel free to take whatever action you feel appropriate. 331dot (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) OK, I have now seen your talk page post, which goes some way towards explaining what you did, though I don't agree. However, in a situation like this it would help enormously to give an edit summary. Just "see talk page" Would be good enough. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:52, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I do apologize; I try to include one but I concede I am not diligent enough. Always striving to improve around here. Thanks 331dot (talk) 13:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I've looked further, and I am now convinced that the page was originally not about the university lecturer in question. The original text of the article was "Jon Sullivan is a kid that lives in London, UK. He goes to at The American School in London. He is a huge Donald Trump supporter." The claim that "kid" was a mistake for "scientist" is obviously a lie. Most probably, it was a vanity page about the person who created it. I can find no source anywhere to connect the university lecturer to either The American School in London or Donald Trump support. Everything suggests that rewriting it to appear to be about the university lecturer was just an attempt to avoid speedy deletion. In its current state it is a hoax, as well as lacking evidence of notability, so I am going to go ahead and delete it. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your eyes. It's hard to know how far to take AGF but I seem to have been very wrong here. I apologize for causing you difficulty. 331dot (talk) 14:10, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Re message

I was not intending to insult a other editor directly I was just saying the world could go to hell for some reason but I was not attacking them or intending to attack them. --~~122.107.216.220~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.216.220 (talk) 11:30, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

That's good to hear, but commentary like that which prompted my warning doesn't help the situation. Edit summaries should do just that- summarize the edit. 331dot (talk) 21:06, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Ray Sushree Ananya

The article of Ray Sushree Ananya looks more like a hoax-she was born in 2009 for one thing...Wgolf (talk) 19:49, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

@Wgolf: You're probably right. I've heard of child prodigies in chess so I was willing to give it a brief shot, but it doesn't seem like it's worth it. 331dot (talk) 20:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah same here-at first I was thinking that, but then something seemed...off (if it is true its not a autobio but a COI then, unless if a 7 year old really has a Wikipedia account) Wgolf (talk) 20:46, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Forum of Private Business

Hi There

I am from The Forum of Private Business - the original account was created along time ago and we have no way of finding the sign on or passwords for the account .... do you know how this can be done or do I need to just start again? Otherwise if I want to use the account I have created do I need to add Mrkting - The Forum of Private Business so it distinguishes the difference.The Forum of Private Business (talk) 11:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@The Forum of Private Business: I'm not sure what you mean by an original account; as long as the older account is not being used by you there is no issue in that regard- though please note that accounts cannot be shared(you use "we" above). Your username cannot be that of a company or organization; it must indicate you as an individual. You don't have to use your real name, but the account must indicate that only one person is using it; an example of an acceptable name would be "JohnPublic at TheFPB". Using "Mrkting"(which I presume means 'marketing' would not be acceptable. You can transfer your edits to a new username by following the instructions at this page, or you can create a new account, but doing that does not connect your existing edits to your new name. If you have further questions, please ask. 331dot (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@The Forum of Private Business:I would add that you should not directly edit about your organization per the conflict of interest policy, instead first suggesting edits on the talk page of the article first- and that if you are editing here as part of your job or otherwise being paid to edit here, Wikipedia's Terms of Use require you to clearly state that on your user page or user talk page(you can wait until you change your name). 331dot (talk) 11:21, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I am completely new to wikipedia ....In short I work in the marketing department of the forum of private business. The wikipedia forum of private business belongs to the business I work for but I can not get into the account due to not knowing the sign on details - I therefore created the new account to amend the other account. I know the information is incorrect as it hasnt been updated for 7 years so why would I need to put an edit on a talk page for people to agree to me changing it when I know that the information is incorrect. Do I not just edit it? The Forum of Private Business (talk) 11:30, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@The Forum of Private Business: I realize that you may be new, and it is good that you are here. It is fine for you to create a new account if you cannot use a prior one- as long as this will be the only one you use from this point on. It may be a good idea to indicate what the prior account was on your userpage in order to provide full disclosure. As I indicated, you will need to request that your current name be changed to indicate you as an individual user.

Please understand that conflict of interest is taken very seriously here on Wikipedia. (Please review that page if you haven't already.) It appears improper when someone affiliated or employed by a company edits the article on that company, no matter how good the intentions are by the editor with a COI. Unless the information being fixed is totally factual and 100% uncontroversial(like the company's address, number of employees) you should first seek consensus on the article talk page from uninvolved editors before proceeding. It's probably a good idea to do that with any edit. The more open you are about your COI(and if you are being paid to edit here) the more likely it is your changes will be accepted by the community. Before you make any more edits, though, you should change your username as I describe above. If you need assistance in choosing a name or other questions, please ask. 331dot (talk) 11:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you 331dot I have requested a name change now and just awaiting for that to be changed - many thanks for your help too :)The Forum of Private Business (talk) 12:23, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Done

I have done what you requested, and also the same on another page. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

fawazjaleel

Hi. Can you please take a look at hr new page I created. I want to keep writing and contributing to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markelytics_Solutions_Ltd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fawazjaleel (talk • contribs) 11:29, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

331dot (talk) 16:53, 30 May 2016 (UTC) Music of Uruguay post

I am new in Wiki and not familiar with referencing and citations procedures here. I am trying to correct, and have some control over the Wiki information about my music and career which has been written here and in other sources over the years by hundreds of writers. Also, to correct a misunderstanding about my nationality which should include me among musicians form Latin America as well as Hispanic-American ones. I will be happy to gather references to include with my entry. Maybe if I provide links, you or someone else here can help me submit them as I'm not familiar with the process. Is this an example of the referencing needed? for example to substantiate my entry of "Three-time Grammy nominated composer" links to the Grammy sites directly like for 2016 nomination: http://www.latingrammy.com/en/nominees Or 2010 nominations: https://www.grammy.com/files/11lg_final_press.pdf (page 25, Cathegory 42)? Also list of publications about my music and career as listed on Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=miguel+del+aguila+composer+latinamerican&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=miguel+del+aguila+composer+latinamerican&tbm=bks Or should I list separately each publication as such: Latin American Classical Composers: A Biographical Dictionary by M.Furman/G. Galvan. Indiana University Press (page 8) https://books.google.com/books?id=JrZnCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA8&dq=miguel+del+aguila+composer+latinamerican&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjh__q5qYLNAhVCx2MKHQfVARQQ6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=miguel%20del%20aguila%20composer%20latinamerican&f=false

Guide to the Pianist's Repertoire, 4th edition by M Hinson/W. Roberts (AHO page 9) https://books.google.com/books?id=kQDXAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA9&dq=miguel+del+aguila+composer+latinamerican&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjh__q5qYLNAhVCx2MKHQfVARQQ6AEIJzAC#v=onepage&q=miguel%20del%20aguila%20composer%20latinamerican&f=false

The Double Reed Magazine, (Volume 25 page 92) https://books.google.com/books?id=F14JAQAAMAAJ&q=miguel+del+aguila+composer+latinamerican&dq=miguel+del+aguila+composer+latinamerican&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjh__q5qYLNAhVCx2MKHQfVARQQ6AEIIzAB I appreciate your help in this matter. MigueldelAguila at ClassicalMusicNews (talk) 18:30, 30 May 2016 (UTC) Miguel del Aguila, Peermusic publisher Miguel del Aguila

@MigueldelAguila at ClassicalMusicNews: Those seem OK for references. My suggestion would be to first post them along with your explanation to the talk page of the article you are trying to edit(click "Talk" at the top of the article and edit normally). If you have not already, please review the conflict of interest policy and the policy on autobiographical edits. In short, you should not directly edit in areas where you have a conflict of interest, instead suggesting edits on the talk page first as I stated. I hope this helps you. If you have any questions about the policies I linked to, please ask. 331dot (talk) 18:38, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Also please understand that, even though the page is about you, you have no more right to control its content than any other individual who edits Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 18:40, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

(removed sources listed by Miguel, for space purposes)

Thank you for response/advise. I will make changes you suggest. I trust my one sentence addition to this article will be accepted and allowed to be published then. MigueldelAguila at ClassicalMusicNews (talk) 19:09, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey

The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has appointed a committee to lead the search for the foundation’s next Executive Director. One of our first tasks is to write the job description of the executive director position, and we are asking for input from the Wikimedia community. Please take a few minutes and complete this survey to help us better understand community and staff expectations for the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director.

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Thank you, The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you @331dot

Thank you for your reply 331dot. I am a bit confused as to how to proceed from here. As you suggested that my article might not fall under the category Biography of Writers and moved from there. How do I make sure it is not deleted? Also I would like to edit it and add more references and a photograph. Your advice would be invaluable. Godessofsmallthings 05-06-2016 Godessofsmallthings (talk) 08:22, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

You seem to had accidentally given the title of your page as the category you want to add to the page. The page was moved to Dwight Russel Micnhimer. While the page you have put at the title "Biography of writers" will be deleted, it is only because of the title and not the content of the page. Reading it quickly I don't think it will be deleted at its new title. Categories are added to pages by putting the following, including the brackets: [{Category:CategoryNameHere]] I must leave for a bit but I am happy to help you with anything else later. 331dot (talk) 08:31, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

ITN recognition for Chemical element

On 10 June 2016, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Chemical element, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. 331dot (talk) 19:48, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	hi, could you review my article again? I made changes as per the WIKIPEDIA POLICIES! And I have requested a username change! thanks Maricoinnovates (talk) 10:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

NPP / AfC

Hi. Just a reminder that in just over a week at Wikimania there's going to be a cross-Wiki discussion about the systems of control of new pages. This is a round-table rather than a presentation or a lecture. On the agenda are reforms to the new article reviewing systems and ways to help new users better understand our content policies. If you are going to Italy and would like to take part, please check out the conference schedule, and I look forward to seeing you there. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:44, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

IrakliGamer

I noticed you placed a BLPPROD for this article, I think the article is clearly a speedy delete candidate so why not CSD under A7? I ask because I'm not sure why the page should wait around for at least seven days to be deleted. Mr rnddude (talk) 10:56, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

If you wish to do so, I do not object; I gave it a BLPPROD because Georgia's population being small might mean that this person is indeed a notable person there, so I was willing to give them the chance to provide sources. I admit it seems unlikely, though, which is why I have no issue with you CSD'ing the page. 331dot (talk) 11:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

All good, the person identifies themselves as an internet celebrity, Youtuber if you will, so I figure that notability would be established worldwide. I'll leave it for now, if there's not improvement in a couple hours, or unless somebody else does so, then I'll put up a CSD template. Have a good day. Mr rnddude (talk) 11:03, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

About QuestionPro Inc

I wanted to hear what you have to say beyond the discussion page as well about the fact that in that article there are news links from VentureBeat and Mint_(newspaper). Are they not reliable enough or how does it work?? Beyond wikipedia we are all humans. I do not want to be rude and genuinely understand some stuff here. Thank you. RR007 (talk) 14:28, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Those may or may not be reliable sources; that's not the only issue. Most of the sources given are or seem to be press releases put out by the company that a few news outlets chose to republish. Press releases are specifically listed as not sufficient to establish notability for an organization, as they are not 'independent' sources. I also don't think it would meet the Depth of Sources requirement.

If Wikipedia was for merely listing businesses, I would have no issue at all here. However, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for subjects that are considered notable. Please review the links that I have posted(which both go to sections of the same page) to get an idea of what is being looked for. 331dot (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

@331dot: Thanks for doing that sockpuppet investigation. I have been mulling over doing this myself for the past few days, when those brand new red-linked users showed up. And how you described RR007 was accurate. Also, it was obvious that he was an experienced editor, trying to claim they are a newbie at one point. Talk about obnoxious and contentious! ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:10, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

@Steve Quinn: Sounds like we were on the same page in that regard. :) 331dot (talk) 21:13, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

COI tag removal

Hello @331dot, you had previously added a COI tag on the Alghanim Industries page because of some edits I made. I have reverted all of those edits, and will go through the talk page from now on to suggest any future edits. Would it be possible for you to remove the COI tag from the page? Thanks. Adam at Alghanim Industries (talk) 09:24, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

You can remove maintenance tags (with the yellow) yourself as long as you give a reason as to why any tag you remove is no longer applicable. I can do so if you wish, but as long as you remove it by saying "removed my COI edits in keeping with policy to discuss on talk page" or something similar in the edit summary, there should be no problem. 331dot (talk) 09:33, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

hat nonsense

Not you, obviously, but I wanted to be explicit if it wasn't clear. --166.137.97.250 (talk) 01:36, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

I understand. 331dot (talk) 01:36, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

My Culbert Page on Wikipedia

331dot, I'm assuming this is the way to respond. The Culbert page on Wikipedia provides details on this surname. I am conducting research on this surname worldwide. i want to expand the page by adding more details on the origins of the surname, where it can be found, and historical subjects associated by the surname. I want to find out if these additions to the Culbert page are in keeping with Wikipedia policy. I do not know how to decide if there is a conflict of interest here. I also do not know what you mean by "associates with". I AM a Culbert, hence my interest! I am a part of genealogical organizations. PLEASE CLARIFY what you want me to say, do, etc. etc., and where I am supposed to do it! Jhculbert (talk) 14:22, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

@Jhculbert:, probably would have been more helpful to point you to WP:COI, the relevant Wikipedia guideline. If you have questions feel free to ask on my talk.

@331dot:, probably best to link to Template:Request edit, rather than actually including the template on your talk, because this makes it look like you are requesting an actual edit on Category:Requested edits, and not providing the template as an example. I am closing the edit request here to remove from the que. TimothyJosephWood 14:45, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

@Timothyjosephwood: Sorry, been away. I don't believe I posted the template, but the above user did due to simply copying a message from their page to here. Apologies for any confusion. 331dot (talk) 20:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

In reviewing the above information, I don't believe there is any conflict of interest in publishing the articles on the Culbert Family. If others have issues with this determination, they need to pint out specific items. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhculbert (talk • contribs) 15:53, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

@Jhculbert: As long as you aren't adding information about yourself or your personal family, I don't see an issue. 331dot (talk) 20:13, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Network Science Society

Hi I am guido caldarelli, just created the page for network science society that you spotted for deletion, I wrote some explanation in the talk page contesting that, but there was no discussion on that, where and how this can be done ? Gcalda (talk) 12:00, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

@Gcalda: Hello; pages tagged for speedy deletion can be deleted at any time as long as the reviewing administrator feels the criteria given are valid. No discussion is required- though if they saw your post they would have reviewed it. You can contact the deleting administrator for an explanation if you would like one, by going back to the page title which should display who deleted it. If you find the explanation unsatisfactory, you can ask for Deletion Review.

I tagged the page because it did not indicate with independent reliable sources how this organization met the organization notability guidelines. It was also written in a promotional manner, which is not permitted. Those points will need to be addressed for the page to be kept. If you would like assistance with doing so, I would suggest creating the page through Articles for Creation which allows for review before posting.

I would lastly ask you if you are affiliated with this organization in any way; if you are, there are certain things you will need to do depending on your level of involvement. 331dot (talk) 12:13, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

@331dot:Hi, as for the notability, the main activity of the society is the NETSCI conference. If you google that, you get quite a number of pages since first editions. Of course we are talking about a scientific society, we cannot expect to have the same coverage as football teams... I am very open to rewrite (or better to have the community rewrite the page if it stays on wiki for more than a couple of days) in a non-promotional way, whatever is the definition of the latter. Indeed, I haven't found in the present text any request to become affiliated or (even worse) judgements on other scientific societies or on the our own. We simply write what we do: organise conferences, give grants to students and keep network scientist talking to each other. Where the self-promotion is? I am very happy in following Wikipedia rules, because they make a lot of sense, but on this point i honestly believe there is no self-promotion, rather we are try to give information for people looking for it. Finally (as regards my involvement): as a scientist I founded it many years ago, now I am a member of it, I cannot take any decision on Society behalf, but I am happy to do whatever requested by editors or have the president and the board follow wikipedia editors suggestions. Best and thanks for your work Gcalda (talk) 10:39, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

@Gcalda: One point I would make is that a page does not have to be advocating that people buy something in order to be promotional; creating a page that says "X society meeting at 7:00" is promotional because it only gives information, without indicating with independent reliable sources how the event is notable. Wikipedia isn't social media to merely post information; its articles must indicate how the subject is notable.

I am concerned by your use of "we" in your post above; please note that sharing a username is not permitted. If by "we" you mean your organization, you will need to review conflict of interest and the paid editing policy if you are editing as part of your job.

I would suggest that further discussion about the merits of the page could take place at the deletion discussion page(linked to in the red template in the article). Best wishes to you 331dot (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Charlie Conte

The article that wouldn't die... It's at AFD now.--NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:09, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

stop

Stop Softlavender and Osama from edit warring Thank you