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Paul Ryan was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Inadequate summarization of political positions

The Political positions section of this article inadequately summarizes its main article Political positions of Paul Ryan. Please see WP:SUMMARY. The main article Political positions of Paul Ryan is 73,766 bytes long and has 4 sections and 11 subsections. Almost all of the main article is not summarized in the parent; the Political positions section of this article mentions just one area of public policy, social security. The Political positions section of this article might be better headed "Political philosophy" as it is almost exclusively devoted to the relationship between the topics of Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand (a noteworthy relationship but not to the exclusion of noteworthy political positions) whereas the main article makes no mention of Ayn Rand. 52.56.146.5 (talk) 19:32, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please help summarize the Political positions of Paul Ryan in the lead of Political positions of Paul Ryan. Thank you! 52.56.146.5 (talk) 19:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Summarization of the Political positions of Paul Ryan in progress at Political positions of Paul Ryan. Please help. 52.56.146.5 (talk) 20:47, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft summarization available in lead of Political positions of Paul Ryan. Please help. 52.56.146.5 (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the conformance of the Political positions section of this article with guidelines MOS:BODY and WP:SUMMARY? 52.56.146.5 (talk) 01:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Style guide of WikiProject Conservatism recommends a "Political positions" section in articles on politicians:

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This article has such a section, however it is devoted exclusively to discussing the subject's favorite author. 52.56.146.5 (talk) 18:16, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral point of view

Among of the most noteworthy aspects of the subject of this article are his political positions. This article makes no mention of Medicaid or Medicare. The Political positions section of this article makes no mention of the subject of this article's political positions on entitlement programs beyond social security. This article makes no mention of the positions of the subject of this article on abortion, pay equity, marriage equality, gun rights, climate, regulation, consumer protection, the corporate income tax, the estate tax, the capital gains tax, and many other issues on which his positions are manifest in multiple independent noteworthy reliable sources. Meanwhile, the article has two paragraphs including a long direct quote discussing the body fat percentage of the subject of this article. The systematic exclusion of the political positions, widely represented in reliable sources, is a serious neutrality deficiency with this article. 52.56.146.5 (talk) 19:35, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many reliable sources identify the subject of this article as conservative. May the lead of this article mention that the subject of this article is conservative? 52.56.146.5 (talk) 18:23, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the conformance of the Political positions section of this article with policy WP:NPOV? 52.56.146.5 (talk) 01:10, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done Issues addressed. 13.54.152.171 (talk) 22:28, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Links

Links 10, 11, and 12 are either broken or not useful. Just a heads up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.83.65.74 (talk) 15:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: Removed the broken links about Ryan's father. 216.83.65.74 (talk) 14:19, 31 July 2017 (UTC) Spudnaut[reply]

"From the time of his father's death until his 18th birthday, Ryan received Social Security survivors benefits, which were saved for his college education.[26][27][28]". Link 26 doesn't cite where they got this information from. Link 27, politico, has a broken link as a reference. Link 28 is an article with no citations. Haven't found any evidence of this claim, can someone update with evidence or correct the language? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.83.65.74 (talk) 19:24, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Rod Rosenstein/Paul Ryan Meeting

@Jasonanaggie and MelanieN: I agree with MelanieN's removal but for different reasons. We don't include every minor mention of Paul Ryan in this article. He's a well known person and there are a lot of media references. Inclusion in the article should have importance to the topic of the article. This meeting does not. Belongs in the article on the investigation, not in an article on every name mentioned. @Jason: Other editors have been sanctioned in the past for massively adding this type of material where it doesn't belong for the sole purpose of soap-boxing it. Please don't do that.--v/r - T P 03:01, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input, TP. I have removed this item from several articles where it was either irrelevant or trivial. In a few other articles I retained the meeting, but removed the claim that the meeting was about "Devin Nunes' interference with the investigation", because the source does not support that. --MelanieN (talk) 03:13, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please remove the THOMAS links. Congress.gov replace THOMAS years ago and the referenced information is available from the Member link for Paul Ryan at Congress.gov 174.197.17.82 (talk) 14:53, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Immediately before the Authority Control section at the end of the article. Is a hidden group of category boxes inexplicably titled "Articles related to Paul Ryan". These are not articles, but categories. Please clarify this by changing the title to "Additional categories related to Paul Ryan". 174.197.17.82 (talk) 14:58, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]