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Why the crap is this written in first person? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.150.132 (talk) 04:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Coprolite
It might be worthwhile to mention that Marsh named coprolite after ED Cope (shows what he thought of him, doesn't it?). I read that in a very good book regarding the Bone Wars. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 04:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually, "copro-" means feces, as in coprophilia or coprophagy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.150.132 (talk) 16:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Type specimen of Homo sapiens?
In this Book[1], it is stated "When Cope died, he donated his body to science, and his skull is sometimes reckoned to be the type specimen of the human species, Homo sapiens, his dearest wish." Is this true? And even if it isn't, shouldn't the myth be mentioned? FunkMonk (talk) 06:50, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- Cope never tried to have his bones considered the homo sapien lectotype; the myth is discussed in a footnote. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Image sizes
Accordig to these guidelines, images should have fixed sizes, unless they are diagrams or similar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Size http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Accessibility#Images FunkMonk (talk) 14:02, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- I believe you meant to say "should not have fixed sizes"? I've left them at the default because I am awaiting the eventual 40px default increase, but Tony1 apparently disagrees. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, don't know what happened to the "not"... FunkMonk (talk) 14:58, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Illustrations for Cope
It might bear mentioning that Philadelphia society portraitist Cecilia Beaux, a family relation of Cope's, was hired by him in the beginning of her career to do lithographs of fossils for Cope.[2] MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Reference Section is Actually a Bibliography Instead
The so-called "Reference" Section is actually a bibliography and not a Reference section at all... Stevenmitchell (talk) 04:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Article fails to mention Cope's views on evolution which were frankly orthogenetic with his batmism theory. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:42, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
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I found an incorrect link in the article. Clicking "Institute for Colored Youth" takes you to "Cheyney University of Pennsylvania". Sgharp (talk) 12:46, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Well spotted; yes, no reason for us not to use the direct link now an article exists. The University is of course home to the Institute. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
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In popular culture section?
Hi all -- Cope is a major character in Michael Crichton's novel Dragon Teeth, which was published in 2017. Given the high profile of Michael Crichton, and the fact that the novel is entirely about the Bone Wars, do you think this factoid would be appropriate in the article, perhaps in a "In popular culture" section? -- Cloud atlas (talk) 04:17, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- Also, I just noticed that this is mentioned in an "Adaptations" section in the Bone Wars article. -- Cloud atlas (talk) 04:20, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- Unless there's a bench of details to add about alternate portrayals, I'm not sure mentions that are basically just 'he appears in this' merit a section. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 01:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- @David Fuchs: thanks for the thoughts. Though Cope is one of the main characters in the novel, I see what you're saying about that one portrayal not being enough to warrant a new section. I'll keep my eyes open for whether Cope is portrayed in other places. -- Cloud atlas (talk) 06:09, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Unless there's a bench of details to add about alternate portrayals, I'm not sure mentions that are basically just 'he appears in this' merit a section. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 01:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Citations
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- Not really my cup of tea, but I don't have strong objections. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:13, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- @David Fuchs: I realized after I started that I had started messing around with a system you and/or others had on a few related articles--I am happy to revert my edits so that the citations are more uniform, or please feel free to revert them yourself if you'd like. Emjackson42 (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Three Experiences with E. D. Cope
Over my lifetime I have had three essentially unrelated experiences with E.D. Cope. 1) When I was a Teenager, (18, or 19), I was exploring in a section of Fort Stanton Cave, nea Fort Stanton, New Mexico. It was a long time ago, but I remember Cope being one of the names written in Script in the smooth glistening flowstone in a side passage of the Cave. I new they must be old, as no one now write neatly in Script. I assume Cope was part of the Wheeler Expedition to enter Fort Stanton Cave, using boats in part of the main passage, then crawling the 1700 feet on hands and knees as I did 40 times, but only once did I venture back to the right down the tall, slowed, and skinny parallel passage.
2) A few Years Later, when I was doing an archaeological dig northeast of Crown Point New Mexico, I approached a couple of Archaeologist from other areas of the country, and they had a very ornate wooden Box, with brass fittings and corners on the hood of their truck. I asked what was in the Box they so reverently placed centered on the truck hood. I could tell they were a bit uncomfortable to tell me, but after a while they opened the box, and produced the skull of E.D. Cope. They explained that they were taking him back around the Southwest to visit all of his previous dig sites. They explained that, he had made himself the Holotype for Homo Sapian Sapian (spelling), and that they though he may have died as a result of the large abscess surrounding his upper left wisdom tooth. It was large, and they think it may have given him terrible head aches, and also made him very sick. It might also help explain his terrible hand writing.
3) Many years later I started working on growth and expansion of planets, and as a byproduct of that quest, the question of the maximum allowable size of dinosaurs, specifically sauropods, comes to mind. Cope found one vertebra for a Sauropod found at Cope's Nipple near Canyon City, Colorado. He named if Amphocielias Fragillamus ( spelling ) ,and it was reported to be around 190 feet long. This is 60 to 65 feet longer than then next two "long" Sauropods. I though there might be a problem here, so in doing some research, I found an article with the original drawing, and four dimensions listed. In doing ratios of dimensions using an engineers scale, the problem comes from one digit of one number. It was published as 585 mm, but in reality, when a scale is applied, and the ratios recomputed, it was only 385 cm. Cope estimated it at an overall height of 1500 mm. or about 1.5 meters tall. I scaled it at 1478 mm. This is 58.19 inches tall.( 4.85 feet ). Unfortunately the error led to a model of the Vertebra being made that is 8.5 feet tall, and is in a Hotel Lobby in Canyon City. So a simple ratio of 4.85 feet tall / 8.5 feet tall = 0.57 L 0.57 X 190 feet = 108. 4 feet long. This makes Cope's Sauropod, just a normal length Sauropod, about 84 (plus or minus) percent of the maximum length of Museum Mounted Sauropods. I suspect it was Cope's bad hand writing that contributed to this error in overall length, size and weight. I know this as I am prone to make the same scribble that can sometimes be construed as a 5, or, a 3. If the vertical line is vertical, then it is a 5, if it is sloped a lot it is a 3, but, if it is sloped a little, it might be a 5, or it might be a 3.
4) The Fragillamus ( spelling ) Vertebra might be found again if they look for a smaller wooden box about 4 foot long.98.245.216.62 (talk) 01:32, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
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