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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 78.54.186.169 (talk) at 06:48, 6 March 2019 (→‎Template:Infobox Hungarian settlement). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

March 4

Unused sports standings

All unused and over 16 months old. Where necessary, content has already been previously placed on the article. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:53, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep These are used on the season page to document the standings for each conference. Red links are allowed (per WP:EXISTING WP:WTAF does not apply) in templates for articles that are notable and notability has been established for all D1 teams.Mjs32193 (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sports tables

All unused. The pages in question have the tables already, just not using the templates. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Scottish council populations

Barely used. Text should just be subst directly into the article. No reason to store this data in a template. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:47, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NSFW

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:33, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not WP:CENSORED. DannyS712 (talk) 21:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment someone recently usurped the purpose of this template. I'm going to restore the redirect so inbound links make sense. But now there is no history. I'm confused. Legacypac (talk) 21:36, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Legacypac: It was deleted per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 14#Template:NSFW, so I have tagged it for CSD as WP:G4 (and as WP:T2) - sorry for the confusion --DannyS712 (talk) 21:52, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This does seem to be a G4, and even it weren't the nom is correct; this is just a "trigger police" variant of the spoiler-wrappers and other similar templates the community deleted via RfC something like a decade ago.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  00:26, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Never appropriate for use on Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This template was created after this discussion and Jimbo Wales said that it was a good idea to use such a template in the article. Also read this discussion, please. Кадош (talk) 04:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion (the second one) linked to includes a very good point made by Kusma - The image should either appear in the article or not appear in the article (I don't have a super strong opinion about that: it is relevant, but sensationalist). If it appears, then it should be shown without censorship boxes (compare the more controversial images on Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy or fisting or lynching). If it is not shown, then a link to the image on Commons in the See Also section would work for me (like in Debbie Does Dallas). I see no reason to deviate from our long held anti-censorship stance for this, and certainly not for the silly idea of making Wikipedia "safe for work". By design, it can never be "safe". - the existence of the template implies that it may be acceptable to use it; its not, per WP:CENSORED. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:34, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Unused DTS Subtemplates

With Template:Dts converted to use Module:Dts, these templates are no longer used or needed. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Riverland Indendent FL

One article. Not everything needs a navbox cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 19:42, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox former Arab villages in Palestine

Convert to a wrapper that transcludes {{Infobox settlement}}. 89.14.255.155 (talk) 18:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Format TemplateData dependencies

Previous TfDs for this template:

Imported as dependencies of Module:Format TemplateData (then called Module:TemplateData), which has been rewritten by me to no longer need them, so these modules are now unnecessary. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 16:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please note that de:Module:TemplateData does many, many, many things more which you definitely don't have rewritten.
  • See doc for the full picture, which has been rewritten here only with a very poor and small piece of available functionality.
  • Wrt “Multilingual” issues please see Test case or an internationalized global template on Bihari Wikpedia with Italian description, or Dutch, depending on current user language, or the similar thing in German Wikipedia but with English description.
  • Naturally I am opposing, since that is cutting down internationalized templates.
  • Note that you are using an 2017 fork of de:Module:TemplateData which lacks a lot of recent features, while the “rewritten” things are left at 2017 functionality and do not support newer developments.

Best, --PerfektesChaos (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Module:WLink

This module has two seperate usecases.

  1. The use of the ansiPercent function to encode URLs. This should be moved to Module:String as it is a string-formatting function, not one having to do with wikilinks
  2. The use of the rest module as a former dependency of Module:Format TemplateData (originally called Module:TemplateData): see #Module:Format TemplateData dependencies above

{{3x|p}}ery (talk) 15:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See one above.
  • The Module:Format TemplateData used here is of 2017 and lacks a lot of recent functionality.
  • As soon as upgraded to a current version (e.g. to show intermediate headlines on a very long parameter list, which is scrollable as well, navigating to headlines from TOC), all these dependencies will be required again.
  • You won't be able to rewrite each new release of Module:TemplateData and insert other function calls again and again.
  • Therefore, opposing as in 2018.
Regards --PerfektesChaos (talk) 21:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox South African town

Delete after replace in articles with {{Infobox settlement}}. The only dedicated town infobox for mainland Africa, all other towns use Infobox settlement directly. Created 2012, one editor. If that editor leaves, probably no one will maintain it. 77.11.90.163 (talk) 15:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Hungarian settlement

Delete after replace in articles with {{Infobox settlement}}. Created 2009, creator indef blocked. 77.11.90.163 (talk) 15:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Replace and redirect - we should be leaving it as a redirect in order to preserve previous diffs where the infobox is used. WP:INFOCOL clearly lists the process as merging and redirecting and this makes sense, as we don't want page histories to suddenly have unreadable infoboxes. cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 21:50, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replace per nom.--Darwinek (talk) 23:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replace and delete. Regardless of the confusing name of Infobox settlement, we're better off if as we unite these templates, benefits being easier to update and maintain. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replace and delete; then create a redirect. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:21, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replace and delete - better to standardize and have all relevant templates using the same code, than to have hundreds of wrappers and other templates doing the same exact thing. My opinion on the redirect is that it's pointless and a potentially huge clutter-issue, if we create a redirect for every type of settlement for every country, so for the record, oppose the redirect. --Gonnym (talk) 14:10, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, it’s useful: it has a number of presets and automatisms for specifically Hungary, like automatically filling country, time zone, pushpin map etc., or for example guessing region based on county. It also has a lot more readable parameters—compare |county=Pest with |subdivision_type2=[[Counties of Hungary|County]]|subdivision_name2=[[Pest County|Pest]]. The named parameters help editors find out which subdivisions are useful, and at the same time they help standardize the subdivisions present, their order and the English terminology and links used. (And I’m taking care of it, so it’s irrelevant whether the original creator is still available or blocked.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TV channel programs template

WP:NOTTVGUIDE. Moreover, this is hardly being updated and some TV series have finished airing months ago. ~~ CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 10:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Russian governorate

Delete after replace in articles with {{Infobox settlement}}. Created 2007, creator vanished. Only 39 articles use it, of these only 10 are governorates: Kazan Governorate, Baku Governorate, Elisabethpol Governorate, Erivan Governorate, Black Sea Governorate, Mogilev Governorate, Tiflis Governorate, Tambov Governorate, Kutais Governorate, Georgia-Imeretia Governorate. 78.54.212.31 (talk) 05:09, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Finnish former municipality

Replace and delete. Use transcluded Infobox settlement directly. 77.11.159.48 (talk) 04:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused Championnat National templates

Unused template. Content already directly on pages. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 13:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused Championnat de France templates

Unused template. Content already directly on 2016–17 Championnat de France Amateur 2. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 13:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:When in sandbox

Propose merging Template:When in sandbox with Template:Sandbox other.
Duplicate templates with same function. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 01:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused PDB gallery templates

A bunch of unused gallery templates. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused timeline templates

Unused time templates. no need to keep them around. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 01:14, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing any rationale for deletion here. So what if they're unused? Use them! A rationale of 'not usable' or 'shouldn't be used' would be reason to delete, but not this.
Also, if an implementation is of poor quality but the notion of having a templated timeline is still valid, then we should work to improve what we have, not just discard it.
Likewise readability. That seems to come from some sizing or fuzzy font choices deep within the implementation of <timeline> – that's not something which is fixed by deleting these. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Recognition of Country

Unused template. Not sure what it would be used but this and all sub-templates are unused. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:53, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]