Talk:Avengers: Endgame

Incorrect Terms

"Following the events of Avengers: Infinity War, half of all life in the universe has been killed in an event dubbed 'The Decimation'." Decimate means to take one from every ten. This sentence contradicts itself. Half is not one tenth. 205.142.232.18 (talk) 16:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

No it doesn't. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@Adamstom.97: (Noticed this now because the IP came back and amended their post today.) Technically, the IP is right; "severely damage" or "remove a significant portion of" is kind of WP:SLANG-y in the opinions of a lot of English speakers familiar with the traditional meanings of these words. I'm actually not sure whether I agree with the IP that it is unacceptable to use the word in its colloquial sense in a Wikipedia article, but your above reply indicates either (a) an ignorance of the traditional meaning of the word or (b) a dismissive attitude toward those who would prefer that such words only be used according to such standards. Please refrain from making such comments in the future. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:21, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Don't tell me what I can and cannot say Hijiri. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:40, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL applies to everyone, even you. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 09:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

...but not you? - adamstom97 (talk) 10:09, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

What about my above comments were uncivil? I should remind you that such accusations made without evidence are NPA violations. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@205.142.232.18: Merriam-Webster wrote an entire article about it. The first problem is that even if decimate did refer to the practice of killing one of every ten soldiers in Roman times, it did so in the service of Latin, not English.... Another problem with insisting that decimate should have but a single meaning is that very few words in English retain but a single meaning.—TriiipleThreat (talk) 06:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

To expand on Triiiple's reply, a quick Google search shows that not only does this word have multiple meanings (and choosing only one to be correct is just ridiculous) but also that we don't even know whether the "original meaning" is correct. This is essentially a common and silly misconception. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:40, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Can you find one example of any definition that doesn't mean one tenth in some way? I never meant to insinuate that killing or punishment was necessary. Having a prefix of deci is pretty concrete though.

205.142.232.18 (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Simply Googling "define decimate" provides "kill, destroy, or remove a large proportion of", with the one tenth definition simply considered historical. I think that is being pulled from Oxford Dictionaries. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:21, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

I guess I always trusted Webster more... Mirriam-Webster.

205.142.232.18 (talk) 16:04, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

That's fine, because if you read that definition that you trust more you will see that it gives the non-ten definition as a valid definition of the word, explains that it is the common meaning these days, and uses it for its "in a Sentence" section. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:17, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

So it either means remove 1/10 or remove all except 1/10... hmmm. Maybe we should convene bi-weekly to settle this.

205.142.232.18 (talk) 21:02, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @TriiipleThreat: If you actually read the whole article, you'll see that it's making a subtle point about how words develop multiple meanings over time. It says that the word quickly developed multiple meanings, but the first of these secondary meanings is actually specifically related to "one tenth", not "kill". It is a criticism of prescriptive grammarians in general, and is not saying that the use of "decimate" to mean "severely cripple" or "kill a large portion of" is acceptable in formal writing.

Also, the OED blog is similarly irrelevant, since it is arguing that the "kill one tenth" meaning does not take precedence over all other meanings, not that it does not take precedence in formal writing over the "kill a lot" meaning.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 09:45, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

It's not subtle, the whole point of both articles is that this word means more than one thing either due to changes over time or potentially different conceptions of the same word around the same time. Neither of them suggest that the standard wording as used here is informal. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:09, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what you studied in university, but I took two semesters of linguistics where I learned that there is nothing "wrong" about using words in their more modern senses, and one semester of academic writing where the same professor told me that there are certain contexts in which using words in certain senses is unacceptable. It could also be pointed out that the "stewards" of this article, including both Adam and TT, are also largely responsible for the content of our Spider-Man: Homecoming article, which included the WP:SLANG phrase "base off (of)", so it's kinda ... weird to be lectured on formal English writing style by these same editors.

Anyway, please stop "fighting" me on this: I told you at the top of this thread that I was not interested in arguing that we shouldn't be using the modernest sense of the word in articles.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

There has to be a stop to words losing meaning over time. For instance electrocution still involves death, but you wouldn't know it if you read the news... apparently people survive it.

205.142.232.18 (talk) 17:35, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@205.142.232.18: There has to be a stop to words losing meaning over time. You can't fight how language works. The only problem here is that Wikipedia is supposed to be written in formal language, which changes more gradually than slang. Most experienced Wikipedians would say that our articles should not include phrasing like Some elements from Vulture's first suit were shared with Imageworks, but the remainder was created by them based off a maquete. The colloquial meaning of "decimate" is a bit more of a grey area. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:20, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Attacking my intelligence isn't going to get you anywhere Hijiri, and you turned this thread into what it is so don't complain when you get exactly what you want. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:13, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Take that bogus accusation back, and apologize. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

• FWIW Apparently "decimate" is a word used by primary (advertising) sources that at least one reliable secondary source doesn't like. Whether it's "correct" or not, I don't think we should be using it under these circumstances. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 March 2019

Similar to Tessa Thompson, Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury) also got a character poster. All the actors who got posters are listed here expect for him.Grizzly Goblin (talk) 01:35, 27 March 2019 (UTC) http://collider.com/avengers-endgame-character-posters/ Grizzly Goblin (talk) 01:35, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

can you say exactly what changes you want to see? Faromics (talk) 01:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The poster of Nick Fury pretty much confirms he’s in the movie too and Samuel L. Jackson isn’t listed here. I would like for you guys to add his name to the cast. Grizzly Goblin (talk) 02:06, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Is it really? The page only says he's dead.. Faromics (talk) 15:10, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

But all the dead characters got posters are listed here to appear in the movie. Plus the posters confirmed that Valkyrie is going to be in the movie, so it’s he same thing too with Samuel L. Jackson. Grizzly Goblin (talk) 16:52, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

there is proof that all who disintegrated in Avengers infinity war will come back because there is a spiderman far from home movie coming out with nick fury and spiderman (of course) which they were both two who had disintegrated and there has been things about spiderman in the timeline takes place after endgame,unlike Captain MArvel took place in the 1990's timeline. And if you did not know the soul stone may be one that could bring all those we had fallen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.248.64 (talk) 02:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Procedural Close- Open for over 2 week and  Not done with evidence it's contested RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 15:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

quotes

Hi

When we quote someone, we use "their text", and put it in the article with a ref.

When we MISQUOTE someone, we use "their text", but put "their now different text" in the article with the ref.

I found some quotes that were WP:OR, in other words someone took the text, added stuff and put "" round it.

I realise this is a perhaps patronising way of describing the problem, but as quoting something is SOOOO easy, (select, copy, paste), I figured maybe we need some reeducation. Chaosdruid (talk) 12:34, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Just wondering, on which quotes were people doing this? HAL333 23:54, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 March 2019

Add 182 minutes to time JayEdits (talk) 22:48, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

@JayEdits: Source? The film hasn't seen wide release anywhere in the world yet, and the runtime of the first Avengers film actually changed by close to a minute after it was released in Europe. And without being able to see the film itself we can't even be certain if that includes or excludes the end credits (I know it almost certainly includes them, but most people in casual conversation don't, except in cases like Meet the Spartans). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:49, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps the "3 HR 2 MIN" at AMC Theatres is a reliable source? --77.173.90.33 (talk) 18:18, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

See also #Runtime officially confirmed by Joe Russo. --77.173.90.33 (talk) 05:41, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 15:05, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Hawkeye

Maybe in § Cast, we could use "Clint Barton / Hawkeye" instead of just "Clint Barton". --77.173.90.33 (talk) 18:13, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Related section. --77.173.90.33 (talk) 11:37, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hawkeye's family

Is Hawkeye's family died before the events of the Endgame? 04/19/19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.146.140.165 (talk) 11:50, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

No,that's not likely Morris(ME)Junior (talk) 16:44, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 April 2019

Can I please add to the release dates the UK release date which is 25 April 2019? Oinkplop (talk) 20:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done Per WP:FILMRELEASE: "Release dates should therefore be restricted to the film's earliest release, whether it was at a film festival, a world premiere, or a public release, and the release date(s) in the country or countries that produced the film."--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Endgame 4 minute leaked footage

So no one's gonna talk about it? Should we add this to the page? Tray Framework (talk) 20:59, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Leaked footage??? Could you post the link please. It's probably just a misdirect though. Morris(ME)Junior (talk) 16:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

References

Taika Waititi as Korg

Should we add Taika Waititi and Korg to the cast list since his return has been confirmed through the leaked footage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.96.230.194 (talk) 12:26, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the plot

As with all other movies, the plot to this movie will be needed to added. But since everyone is going nuts over the spoilers of the movie, should the plot be added as soon as anyone is ready to do it (The regular Way of editing WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES) or wait for a few days until Sunday which will mean that an exception is to be followed here regarding the plot? I will add the plot upto 26th, but can wait CaptainGKPrime (talk) 19:45, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@CaptainGKPrime : since when a mass, self-inflicted hysteria has to prevail over encyclopedic work? most of the hottest fans have already cut them off from social media and probably the whole internet. with these movies it is known that the good guys win. I have been genuinely surprised by other movies, like The Doubt. it's the 24th, and the movie has premiered in LA already. don't we have any editors from there? cheers, Awambawamb (talk) 22:09, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Post on release day or whenever the editor in question has already seen the content. Nothing has changed about the “spoiler” policy. 2600:8800:4A80:44EF:7502:133C:4F76:C57C (talk) 22:12, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks CaptainGKPrime (talk) 04:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

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So I've come home from the film earlier today. Here's a decent summary that I've written up. Feel free to clean it up and add whatever's missing or clarify anything I may have gotten wrong, but be sure to keep it concise per the Manual of Style. It' s a very, very meaty three hour film, so bear with the length. If a way to chop it down without losing vital information can be achieved, it would be greatly appreciated! – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 07:43, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

After Thanos uses the Infinity Stones, Clint Barton's family are turned to dust, along with half of all living creatures in the universe. Nebula and Tony Stark are stranded in space following their defeat by Thanos, but are returned to Earth by Carol Danvers and reunited with Black Widow, Bruce Banner, Captain America, Rocket Raccoon, Thor, and War Machine. The team formulate a plan to steal the Infinity Stones back from Thanos and use them to reverse his actions, but learn upon finding him that he had used the stones a second time to destroy them, preventing their further use. In anger, Thor kills Thanos.

Five years later, Scott Lang escapes from the quantum realm to discover that five years had passed, and that Hope van Dyne, along with half of the population, had disappeared. Lang goes to Black Widow and Captain America, and explain that while five years had passed, only five hours had passed for him in the quantum realm. The three go to Stark, who is now raising a child with Pepper Potts, and explain their theory that the quantum realm can be used to go back in time and steal the Infinity Stones before Thanos is able to collect them. Stark initially rejects their proposal with concern about risking parenthood, but after reflecting upon the loss of Peter Parker decides to test computer models for quantum time travel. He succeeds in finding a model that works, and is further encouraged by Potts to act after having further doubts.

The Avengers are reunited with a plan – Banner, Captain America, Lang, and Stark embark to retrieve the Time, Mind, and Space stones from New York during the Avengers' battle with Loki in 2012. Banner goes to the Sanctum Sanctorum, where he is informed by the Ancient One that taking the Time Stone from her timeline would prevent Doctor Strange's future efforts to stop Kaecilius from destroying the laws of nature. She concedes the Time Stone to Banner however, after he informs her that Strange had given Thanos the stone in his timeline, implying Strange had intended for a specific sequence of events to occur for Thanos to be defeated, including Banner taking possession of the Time Stone. Banner also promises the stones' return to her timeline in order to prevent any ill effects. Lang and Stark attempt to steal the Space Stone – Lang gives Stark's past self a cardiac arrest by pulling a circuit in his artificial heart and causing a scene, while Stark steals the briefcase when nobody is looking. Their plan is thwarted as Stark drops the briefcase after he is accidentally hit by the Hulk. Loki then uses the Space Stone to escape custody. Captain America succeeds in stealing the Mind Stone from undercover Hydra agents, but stumbles across and fights his past self, whom mistakes him for a disguised Loki. Lang returns to the present while Captain America and Stark devise a plan to steal the Space Stone from a U.S. Army installation in the 1950s, while stealing further vials of fluid in order to make the journey back home. While there, Captain America sights Peggy Carter and Stark converses with his father Howard before returning.

Rocket and Thor travel to Asgard to retrieve the Reality Stone before Malekith uses it against the nine realms. While in Asgrad, Thor is reminded that his mother, Frigga, would die soon and has a chance encounter with her while Rocket steals the Reality Stone from Jane Foster. The two return to Earth after Frigga counsels Thor and he retrieves his hammer. Nebula and War Machine travel to Xandar to steal the Power Stone before Peter Quill does. As War Machine returns to the present with the Power Stone, Nebula malfunctions and remains on Xandar. Her memories are accidentally transferred to her past self, which Thanos uses to learn that he would ultimately succeed in his plans to wipe out half the universe and that the Avengers are going back in time to retrieve the Stones before he does. Barton and Black Widow travel to Vormir to retrieve the Soul Stone, though are conflicted when Red Skull, keeper of the Soul Stone, informs them that the stone can only be retrieved by sacrificing someone they love. The two fight over who would make the sacrifice, and Black Widow ultimately takes the fall, with Barton taking the Soul Stone back to Earth and informing the other Avengers of Black Widow's death.

After Nebula is captured by Thanos and her time travel abilities given to her more loyal past self, the past Nebula uses Banner's time machine to transport Thanos and his army to the Avengers' base. The Avengers task Banner to use the Infinity Stones to bring everybody killed by Thanos back. He succeeds, though they are attacked by Thanos, who reduce the base to rubble. The past Nebula is killed by her future self as she attempts to take the Infinity Stones from Hawkeye, while Captain America, Thor, and Stark confront Thanos, who decides to instead use the Infinity Stones to destroy the universe and create one in his vision. Soon after Thanos' army lands on Earth, T'Challa appears before Captain America, along with all of the Avengers revived by Banner, before launching an assault on Thanos and his army. After a lengthy battle during which Stark is reunited with Parker and Gamora is reunited with Quill, Thanos wrestles with numerous Avengers for the Infinity Stones. Risking certain death, Stark rips the Infinity Stones from Thanos' hand and uses them to turn Thanos and his entire army into dust. Parker and Potts console Stark as he dies from the radiation emitted from the Stones.

Following the battle, The Avengers hold a funeral for Stark, whose artificial heart is floated into the sea. Thor makes Valkyrie the Queen of Asgard and joins the Guardians of the Galaxy. Meanwhile, Captain America is tasked to go into the past to return the stones and Thor's hammer to their original timelines, but decides not to return to the present and to instead live the rest of his life in the past with Carter. As an older man, he appears before Falcon and gives his shield to him.

As for the end scene: It looks like Gamora has somehow either vanished or escaped after the battle - she's not at the funeral, and according to some reddit threads searching for her is what Quill is attempting to do. Probably going to be the mission for GotG 3. 93.104.64.153 (talk) 08:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@93.104.64.153: I was wondering where Gamora went! The latter part about Quill searching for Gamora is pure speculation though, as it is never explicitly stated in the film. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 09:00, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Quill is standing in front of a screen with Gamora’s face and the word ‘Searching’ underneath, just before Thor and he start bickering about leadership. Stephen 10:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

It's Morag, not Xandar. - Areaseven (talk) 13:29, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Maybe change "Black Widow, Bruce Banner, Captain America, Rocket Raccoon, Thor, and War Machine" to "the surviving Avengers" or something to that effect? Booyahhayoob (talk) 14:00, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Please do not add any spoilers to this movie for a couple days. The Russo Brothers clearly stated that they don't want any website spoiling Endgame. Add it on the weekend or something. Respect their wishes, please. --86.161.91.94 (talk) 14:46, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

They only asked that people not spoil it for others. As far as I'm concerned, if they're on the wiki page for Endgame and get spoiled without having seen the movie, it's their own fault. WP:SW. Booyahhayoob (talk) 15:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Are there documented cases of publishers asserting copyright against plot summaries on grounds that they are too detailed to constitute a fair use? Would Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. v. RDR Books apply? Worst case, we could end up with this article under WP:OFFICE protection and editors put on "repeat infringer" watch. --Damian Yerrick (talk) 15:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

But by doing this, you ARE spoiling it for others on here. Give it some time for people to watch the movie and then post the plot. At least give it a few days. --86.161.91.94 (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Its a risk people choose by scrolling down the page. For the same amount of people who dislike spoilers, there are the same amount of people who think spoilers enhance the experience. Faromics (talk) 15:46, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

The film has been released in China, Thailand, Australia, and other parts of Asia. The plot is good to go. --Phyo WP (message) 15:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

The Plot section expands only after someone clicks it. Wikipedia is for sharing information. ""Spoiler sensitive"" people should not try to expand the Plot section itself. It does not happen by mistake that ONE opens a wikipedia page, expands one of its section and starts reading it. The plot must stay as it is CaptainGKPrime (talk) 17:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Man, people should know to avoid this page it is up his/her own personal responsibility to avoid them. Faromics (talk) 18:12, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Cast

Today I've seen the film in Germany: Cate Blanchette, Glenn Close, Anthony Hopkins and Chiwetel Ejiofor made no appearance. So could somebody please remove those actors? --Frederico34 (talk) 15:51, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Do Robert Redford/Alexander Pierce, Natalie Portman/Jane Foster, and Angela Bassett/Queen Ramonda appear on-screen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by B91302 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, all 3 appear. Pierce during Avengers sequence, Foster during The Dark World sequence, and Romanda during conclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IIM93 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Does Groot, who is voiced by Vin Diesel, appear in person and/or have speaking lines at any point? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.104.142 (talk) 18:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Groot appears after being revived, but I cannot remember if he spoke. Possibly said "I am Groot" once. --213.42.27.139 (talk) 19:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Groot does indeed say "I am Groot." As I recall, he says it exactly once.Zeck (talk) 09:28, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Or Vision, for that matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by B91302 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Vision does not appear, as he was actually killed and not snapped (unlike other returning characters). Loki, who was also actually killed, only appears in Avengers sequence. --213.42.27.139 (talk) 19:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

I did not see Katherine Langford (13 Reasons Why) in the film. Quite possibly her appearance did not make the final cut. --213.42.27.139 (talk) 19:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Some are saying she played Ant-Man’s daughter in the film? Is that at all accurate? B91302 (talk) 21:02, 24 April 2019 (UTC) I've seen sources that show it is Emma Fuhrmann, not Katherine Langford, that is playing Cassie Lang. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.104.142 (talk) 21:19, 24 April 2019 (UTC) Of course, it's possible Cassie Lang doesn't show up at all.

• She does. - SchroCat (talk) 08:06, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 April 2019

It is the sequel to 2012's The Avengers, 2015's Avengers: Age of Ultron and 2018's Avengers: Infinity War, the 22nd film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) and the last film of the Infinity Saga. RevBladeZ (talk) 16:33, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Most of this information is already stated in the opening paragraph (as of now); the last part could use a source before being blindly added. Geolodus (talk) 18:28, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Don't Spoil Endgame

Hi Admin,

From one Marvel Fan to another.Please remove the plot from this page as this is spoiling the endgame.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thor008 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Absolutely not. Its your personal responsibility, as well as other fan's responsbility, to avoid it. Faromics (talk) 18:28, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

The plot should not summarized just yet. We should show a little respect and not post it now. And there are no real solid sources to cite. You should be aware of We Do Not Post Gossip on Wikipedia. Just chill and wait a few days until we can truly verify this plot. Please be respectful. This does not put a smile on my face. Thanks HAL333 21:06, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

We don't need to cite sources for the plot: the film acts as the primary source for it. As the film has already been released in some territories, it's understandable that people in those territories have written it. If you don't know what happens, just don't read the big bit labelled "Plot"; see Wikipedia:Spoiler. - SchroCat (talk) 21:41, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

My bad, you're right HAL333 22:58, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

There is a source which even spoke about an unofficial plot analysis added in Wikipedia. Abishe (talk) 09:12, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

https://heavy.com/entertainment/2019/04/avengers-endgame-unofficial-wikipedia-plot-synopsis/

The earliest plot synopses often change very quickly and incorrect details can get added, but in this case most of it was hammered out on the talk page in advance (and with fewer characters, it was easier to write than the Infinity War synopsis). The film does not need to be released in all territories before a valid synopsis can be written. Mclarenfan17 (talk) 09:16, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 April 2019

NOT ACCURATE 2620:160:E308:0:0:0:1:BFD5 (talk) 18:50, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done No request was made. GMG^talk 18:51, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 April 2019

The sentence in the third paragraph of the article that reads "The film received praise for its direction, entertainment value and emotional weight, with critics lauding its culmination of the 22 film MCU story arc" requires a hyphen between 22 and film, and it would be ideal for the arc to be referred to as the "Infinity Saga arc" rather than the "MCU story arc," given that that is the arc's official name and the MCU is set to continue after Endgame. Kevingar117 (talk) 19:49, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Partially done. Hyphens added to compound modifiers, and "MCU and "arc" removed as redundancies: "22-film story" says the same thing. Additionally, changed the WP:PEACOCK "received praise" to more neutral "received plaudits".--Tenebrae (talk) 20:22, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Credits

While I updated the cast credits to reflect unannounced actors who appear, after having seen the film, I don't have their exact cast order from onscreen. Anyone who can get that, please reorder names. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Cast List

Again, the cast list is not accurate as several of the actors/characters listed DO NOT appear in the film and thus need to be removed from the list. Those characters are:

Paul Bettany as Vision, Cate Blanchett as Hela, Glenn Close as Irani Rael, Chiwetel Ejiofor as Karl Mordo, and Anthony Hopkins as Odin

Please make these changes if you are able. Thanks!

The names mentioned above have been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.208.172 (talk) 02:47, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

• I've removed these. None of the characters appear and don't appear on the official cast lists - SchroCat (talk) 07:52, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Red Skull's name

Hello. I was wondering about something: is it necessary to mention Red Skull's real name, Johann Schmidt, in the plot summary and cast section? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:44, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

With the MCU, I'd think so. Same reason the Avengers are referred to by their names (Tony, Bruce, Steve, etc.) instead of their superhero identities in the plot, and a dual listing in the cast section. Just makes the characters "more human", in a sense. Booyahhayoob (talk) 04:04, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 April 2019

Please delete plot from wikipedia, as it is releasing worldwide on 26th April, today is 25th April only. It will cause spoilers, please delete. 203.196.248.70 (talk) 07:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Not done. See WP:SPOILER as to why. Mclarenfan17 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) We have guidelines for most of the things we do on WP, and this includes how to deal with spoilers. It's at Wikipedia:Spoiler if you want to read it. Depending on where in the world you are, the film was released yesterday in Asian markets, today in Europe (I was at the midnight showing nearly 9 hours ago) and will be in the American markets tomorrow. It's playing in two thirds of the world already. If you don't want the film's plot spoiled, just avoid looking at the page until you've been to the cinema. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:46, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

No possible Avengers premiere in Sri Lanka

There might not be an evidence of Avengers release in Sri Lanka and even if it does have a theatrical release people won't probably visit the theatres following the 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings and on 24 April 2019 a minor explosion was reported near Savoy Cinema, Colombo, which is a big theatre complex in Colombo and Endgame is one of the big releases which were revealed to have their releases here. Abishe (talk) 09:24, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

http://www.hirunews.lk/215070/security-forces-explode-the-seat-of-a-motorcycle-found-near-the-savoy-cinema

https://www.thehansindia.com/news/international/explosion-reported-at-savoy-cinema-in-colombo-523648

Incorrect terms - no time travel

The Avengers travelled to a paralel universe, NOT into the past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB88:5186:F600:CCD5:DC4F:F3AA:72E2 (talk) 11:28, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

• I was under the impression it was time travel, given the number of references to the term "time travel". - SchroCat (talk) 11:45, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

They travel through a "parallel universe" to travel through time. I use the inverted commas because Lang makes it clear he is explaining quantum entanglement in layman's terms. Mclarenfan17 (talk) 11:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Regardless of how they do it, this is obviously just time travel. I think the plot summary explains it as shown in the film pretty clearly. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:00, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Also, the obvious way forward for post-Endgame films is to explore time travel-related complications: Loki escaping with the Power Stone, Nebula killing her old self, Thanos dying in the future, etc. Mclarenfan17 (talk) 12:09, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

I agree it doesn't matter as far as our plot section goes - but the point was that by travelling back in time, they can't alter their present (that just becomes their past), but any changes they make do create alternate realities - however returning the stones back nullifies that (hence why Rogers goes back to do so). The movie yada yadas about how that actually happens, but that's the intent). -Imagine Wizard (talk · contribs · count) Iay amay Magineiay Izardway. 13:35, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Real or fake plot

Why is the plot here, is it official or unofficial? Ken choo (talk) 12:20, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

This is the actual plot, as the film has already been released in many countries. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

The movie has been released in Europe, Australia, China and many other countries. I too have watched the movie. The plot is true and what do you mean by official and unofficial plot. Writing Rumours isn't a part of Wikipedia. CaptainGKPrime (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I'm afraid it was spoilers edited by sockpuppets Ken choo (talk) 13:15, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Emma Fuhrmann as Cassie Lang

Can someone please add Emma Fuhrmann as Cassie Lang to the cast list? I believe she is the only major appearance left not currently listed on the article. Thanks again!

B91302 (talk) 13:17, 25 April 2019 (UTC)