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Grid references

I (and another editor) am getting a '503 Service Unavailable' for grid references on articles such a Surrey Wildlife Trust. Thanks for your work maintaining os and can you advise whether this is a temporary problem? — Dudley Miles (talk) 12:08, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. It will be a major problem if grid refs are permanently down as there are tens of thousands of links to them. Dudley Miles (talk) 22:17, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Kindly restore my user: page

Dear Roger, I discovered this morning that you have deleted by :user page, which has been in existence for many years. It is not there for advertising or aggrandisement, but so that those who wish to access my page might know who I am and my qualifications for writing and making edits. I have written several hundred articles and undertaken 17,833 edits over the past 13 years (I think more than you have, and perhaps for a longer period). It is also my only record of what I have done for Wikipedia in the last two decades. Please reinstate it. Regards, Rif. Rif Winfield (talk) 08:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Rif, fake articles don't come much worse than your user page: written in the third person and absolutely no "what I do here" type of text. Indeed at first glance I did not notice that the book titles were in fact wikilinks. I have created an hint of what is needed. Look at other users' pages: good examples Ykraps and Shem1805. Since your given name is unusual you should add "I am male" (if indeed you are!) either as simple text or via {{User:UBX/male}}. Also, it would be informative to say "I live in Ceredigion". Note: fiddling with another editor's user page is deprecated: if you request it, I will delete what I have done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:27, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

As you say, altering another editor's user page is always to be deprecated and is simply unacceptable unless there is a violation of a major Wikipedia regulation. There is nothing "fake" about what was in my user page; everything is verifiable. Yes, I am male and yes, I live in Ceredigion, but these facts have no bearing on my contributions to Wikipedia (which cover a wide range of topics on which I have expertise). — Rif Winfield (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

"Fake article" is perhaps misleading but it is the standard term. No one is suggesting that your article contained anything but truth but it was unquestionably a violation of the Wikipedia regulation that user pages must not look and feel like ecyclopedia articles. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

History of the Indian Air Force

Hi ...I watch this and noticed some big editing. Could you kindly look please? — Whispyhistory (talk) 09:40, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry...sorted by someone else. — Whispyhistory (talk) 10:15, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

A donk listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect A donk. Since you had some involvement with the A donk redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. — the Man in Question (in question) 03:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Kim McGuinness

Hi, you've deleted my page: Kim McGuinness which was only created yesterday. Kim McGuinness is a real person holding elected office in the United Kingdom. References were included in the article stub. Here is a news story from yesterday reporting her election: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-49044340 . — Littlemonday (talk) 17:00, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

How am I meant to provide a link to a page you've deleted? I know you enjoy plain talking, but please forgive me for thinking you're an obnoxious busy body. Why did you delete my page? It was clearly a real person with a referenced link to why the person is notable and is deserving of a wiki article. — Littlemonday (talk) 08:20, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

  • I think any speaker would rule "obnoxious busy body" to be unparliamentary but I shall overlook that and just say that one person's busy bodying is another persons quality control. As to providing a link, if Kim McGuinness is not the link I wanted what is it? Please reply. Follow that link and read what you see there more carefully. Then look at your own contributions history. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:44, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
  • I see now that you did not even read my message above time stamped 17:37, 20 July 2019. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:48, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

We're not in Parliament so I don't need to please any speaker. I will ask you again: Why did you delete the page I created? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kim_McGuinness — Littlemonday (talk) 12:21, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

  • And I will ask you again: please look at my message above time stamped 17:37, 20 July 2019 and see if you can understand the last, short sentence in it. Or phone me! I hope I come over less obnoxious on the phone than in writing. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:33, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Your message: "Please learn: always provide a wikilink when you talk about an article, how templates work and that it is article suicide to start developing in mainspace." Doesn't explain why you deleted the article. The page was about a person who'd just been elected. The office they are serving in is well established and documented on wikipedia and I linked to/from her predecessor as well as providing an independent source for her election. I would also politely point out that using the word 'suicide' in a context which doesn't involve the ending of a human life is most defiantly not parliamentary language. [1] [2] Littlemonday (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

  • You have already seen the reason. Go to the page which tells you that I did the deletion, ie. the page to which you could not provide a link, and look for "2019-07-19t16:59:30 RHaworth … deleted page Kim McGuinness". What follows those words? Note that A7 is a link - follow it for even more information. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:47, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Where is the page? I can't find it! Could you just tell me in plain English right here? We're not all as knowledgeable as you! Surly you can see that you're being obstructive rather than helpful at this point? (And before you say it that would be allowed in Parliament!) I want to learn things here, instead I'm just met with your haste, rudeness and arrogance. Littlemonday (talk) 14:36, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

  • And in my obnoxious way, I am trying to teach you things but you do seem to be a slow learner. This discussion thread already contains twice a link to the page which tells you that I did the deletion but here it is again: Kim McGuinness. I repeat: phone me - it might help if I were to talk you through things. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:20, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

ITSM-OPS

Hello, RHaworth. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Related to deletion of ITSM-OPS. https://deletionpedia.org/en/ITSM-OPS . — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerryRamen (talk • contribs)

Sobia Khan

Hi, Please, change protection level of Sobia Khan, I will create with sources. Thanks — Bukhari (Talk!) 15:32, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Done, please accept this draft (Aalisha Panwar) too. Thanks— Bukhari (Talk!) 01:35, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Secure Network Programming

Hi, The Secure Network Programming page was deleted by you because of the violation of copyright from another webpage: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/lam/NRL/SSL.html Now we have obtained the permission to reuse the text of the page. Please see the text in the bottom of the utexas page: The text of this webpage is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). Let me know if you are able to restore the deleted page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wutherings (talk • contribs) 17:43, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Forgetting to unspeedy

I restored User:Heeheemalu/List of tallest buildings in Taichung to userspace in response to a WP:REFUND request. Unfortunately it looks like I forgot to remove the speedy deletion template and so you deleted it again. Would you mind undeleting it or giving me the nod to do the same? Apologies. -- kingboyk (talk) 22:08, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid the same appears to have happened at Draft:Dr Surojeet Chatterji :) Lesson learnt - remove the deletion tags after restore. --kingboyk (talk) 22:11, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

It looks from logs like you're not around atm. As WP:REFUND applies I'll go ahead and undelete myself. Please ping me if there's any problem. Thanks. --kingboyk (talk) 22:16, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Pavigym Draft

Hi, My draft of this page was deleted. I'd like to have it restored so I can continue working on it. I'd also like to ask for feedback if possible. The article was deleted citing "unambiguous advertising or promotion". I feel that the article doesn't meet any of the requirements for deletion with reference to the 5 points stated in the Wikipedia guide. I don't see how it cannot be considered a neutral, referenced, article as required. Thanks! Batmansgran (talk) 14:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

  • I agree: reasonably well written but that lack of independent references caused it to be considered spam. I can left you have your text - read this but it would be better if you were to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:20, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
I often see you deleting pages I've tagged for speedy removal. Your mop usage is much appreciated, thanks and keep up the good work! — creffett (talk) 22:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Sandbox Code

Good Morning Mr. Haworth, I woke up this morning to see that a page I have been working on was deleted. I was surprised as I thought the sandbox was a place where you could play with making a page and it not be available to the public yet. I had only just last night finished plugging in the information and had not gotten to the editing portion of it so that it was not considered advertising. Would you be able to provide my code so that I can keep working on it? Thank you for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berat1008 (talk • contribs) 06:29, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Berat1008, your edit pattern suggests paid editing very strongly to me. Your draft thoroughly deserved deletion: it was an extension of the company's website rather than an encyclopaedia article. In any case the subject strikes me as inherently non-notable: a company creating an obscure product for a narrow market. I have emailed you the text but do not even think about posting here until de:Natec has been created and survived for two weeks.
On the other hand, an article about Hochland SE stands a good chance of survival because it is creating products that people see on supermarket shelves. Hochland AG was deleted in 2013 because its entire content was:
Hochland AG is a german company that makes dairy products. It was founden in 1927. Category:german companies ro:hochland AG
Special:WhatLinksHere/Hochland AG reports two links from mainspace. The only question is the correct title: what does the SE in the name mean? It does not seem to be a new alternative to AG. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:21, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Need Help creating a page protected by you

Hi, I'd like to create a page on Swiggy, but you have protected it. Please allow me somehow. Please refer to the discussion at the following talk page/section: User talk:TonyBallioni#Asking for opinion about RfA. Thanks Compfreak7 (talk) 15:40, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Compfreak7, what you might want to do is to create a draft of the page you want to create, so that RHaworth can see what you have in mind and better evaluate whether they want to lift the protection or not. You can create a draft at Draft:Swiggy, or in your own user space at User:Compfreak/Sandbox or User:Compfreak/Swiggy. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:09, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) You might also want to read WP:NCORP first and consider how you are going to meet its requirments. The sources you mentioned on Tony Balloni's page are mostly not useful for showing notability (one is the company website and two are mere business listings). The only one that looks good is the news item in LiveMint, but that is not enough by itself. — SpinningSpark 16:39, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Oops - turns out Compfreak7 has been blocked for socking. RHaworth, I don't think you need to bother answering this one. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Deleted User Page and Draft

Hello RHaworth, You recently deleted an article I was working on and my user page. I kindly request that you restore both to enable finish up my work. — Jesusonogor (talk) 09:54, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Greek ministries

I noticed that you recently moved the Ministry of Citizen Protection (Greece) article. There are three more ministries that have reverted to their original names, namely:

Your assistance in moving these articles would be much appreciated. •ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ• 14:18, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

OS tool thingamabob

Hi - I was looking at List of Category A listed buildings in Moray (I'm gradually working my way through the list, writing articles about buildings that don't have one), and clicked on one of the OS numbers under the 'Grid Ref' column. I got this 503 'Service Unavailable' error - it says you're the maintainer of the tool, so I came here. Is this a temporary glitch, or is the tool no longer operational - in which case, should I remove all the links to it from the list? Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 17:49, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

OK, will do - I visit that list quite often, I'll check it periodically to see if it's fixed. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 07:36, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth - I realise it hasn't been a fortnight yet, but thought you might want to know that while the links aren't working yet, the error message has changed - I'm now getting a 404 instead of a 503. Thought that might be helpful, cheers GirthSummit (blether) 09:37, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

It has now been over a fortnight - so a gentle prod to see if you can progress this as lots of OS links are now not operating. — Keith D (talk) 21:01, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Restore page

Hey there! You recently deleted our ELEM page and I was wondering why. The reasoning provided sadly made no sense. I work for the organization and provided official wording and material and can assure you there was no copyright issue. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.29.95.105 (talk)

Hey, it is indeed I who created the ELEM page. It was in draft stages and was deleted and it showed you as the one who deleted it :/ How should we proceed? ELEMyid (talk) 19:15, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello Sir, I'm from India I request you my client Mr. Shahab Khan is the television and film personality his son had created a page of father I request you to recreate it as soon as possible we want to make a page. I hope you will help me. Jesus bless you. Thank you Ffssch (talk) 06:21, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Battle of Parker's Ferry?

Hi, I am Ajack87. I wrote an article called the Battle of Parker's Ferry. However, it got deleted for copyright infringement. Can I rewrite it again using legitimate sources? How can I fix it. What sources can I use that would be legal and legitimate for my article? And how do I site them properly? — Ajack87 (talk) 00:27, 26 July 2019 (UTC)Ajack87

  • Learn to provide a wikilink whenever you refer to a page. also learn the difference between site and cite. Do you actually understand the difference between "using sources" and violating copyright. "Using sources" means: read the sources and then write in your own words. When used in this way almost all sources are legitimate. One of your edits had a summary: "Is this how I add more reliable sources. Am I doing this right?" The answer is yes. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:13, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

User:Ruma Devi, Barmer

Hi! Someone was at the IRC help desk asking for this to be restored. I took a look and, although it's pretty poor-quality at the moment, wasn't entirely certain how it was a U5. Would it be possible to clarify a little how it's a U5, and would you mind if I restore it? Thank you! Enterprisey (talk!) 07:31, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Several deleted pages on Ethiopian geology

Hello, I received warnings for copyright infringement (copying of sentences, with sources mentioned however. This concerned several pages like this one: Edaga Arbi Glacials. In the "Talk" I mentioned that I was going to rework it within 3 days. Then why to delete those pages? Please leave us some time before undertaking such irremediable actions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnyssen (talk • contribs)

  • Learn the difference between external links and wikilinks and to sign talk page comments with ~~~~ . No: any "reworking" must be done before you post anything here. "Irremediable" - ridiculous phrase - you are already remedying matters and I am happy to let you have copies of deleted articles: read this. I note you have written this book about the geology of Ethiopia. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:35, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

CSD C1

Hello, RHaworth,

You are so prolific with deleting pages that I thought you were familiar with this category of speedy deletion. Empty categories are tagged and sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion before they are deleted. They are not deleted immediately.

There are several reasons for this. Sometimes categories are emptied out of process and sometimes an editor creates a category before they have assigned articles to it. So, I've restored Category:B-Nasty albums and Category:B-Nasty album covers. Feel free to delete them after August 1st or when they appear in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 18:19, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

@Liz: I don't know if I agree. Since B-Nasty was deleted per this AfD, why wouldn't these categories qualify for speedy deletion under G8 as being "dependent on a non-existent or deleted page"? StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:15, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

I didn't realize this, Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. I guess I was being rigid. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt for being preachy, RHaworth. — Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Delta Alpha Pi (honor society)

The original nominator Sphilbrick indicated that he thought that the rephrasing that I did for the membership page was sufficient to remove the COPYVIO issue. See User talk:Sphilbrick#Delta Alpha Pi (honor society). — Naraht (talk) 20:51, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and apologies to you both — .Naraht (talk) 13:38, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Emiway Bantai (Rapper)

Hello, the article Emiway Bantai (Rapper) should not be speedily deleted and please change protection level of it, because the article before created was deleted due to inappropriate referencing, but now the article is appropriate referenced, and the article person is eligible of notability, so I request you to see the references and please check the page, the user who created the article before was not good at all referencing the article, but this article is referenced appropriate exact as the references, so I think this article should not be deleted and got reviewed, thank you.Hzk12345 (talk) 15:22, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello RHaworth, the draft:Emiway Bantai was protected by you due to copyright contents, i have removed copyright contents from it, and now i am making it more better without adding any copyright content, the article was deleted before was due to inappropriate referencing, but i am trying to make it appropriate with strong references, so i request you to unprotect it and allow me for creating draft of the article as per wikipedia : guidelines, Thank You.Hzk12345 (talk) 15:22, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Ok thank you, i request you to remove the copyright-revdel tag from the draft:Emiway Bantai, i have removed all copyrighted contents from it please check it and i am working to do it more better. — Hzk12345 (talk) 07:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

okHzk12345 (talk) 11:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Belle Delphine

Hi, RHaworth. I've noticed that you (understandably) indefinitely disabled the Belle Delphine article from being created, as it was basically being spam-created. A few days before you did that, however, I began a draft (honestly started this draft mentally a few weeks ago). I just finished that draft that I really do believe should be suitable for the mainspace. I was wondering if you could re-enable that page so I could create it with my draft. Thank you and best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 10:53, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

You deleted my page without giving me time to contest

hello, A tag for speedy deletion was placed on my article Unistream (Entrepreneurship). I just wrote a contest for the speedy deletion on the talk page. IsraeliIdan (talk) 10:17, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Haji Ajmal Rahmani

Hi I have been informed that you have deleted the page I created for the above person due to infringing on the copyrights of Afghan-bios.inf article. As I stated in the appeal stream, I am the original author of the article, we gave the article for publication to Mr Bruns v Erek the owner of the site afghan-bios but did not give him exclusive ownership of the article, it is for publishing wherever people want to publish it. I am working with Mr Erek to have items of misinformation that are incorrect posted on his website about Mr Rahmani removed hence I didn't post a link to the afghan-bios website until he removes the incorrect information. How can I get this Bio placed on to Wikipedia? You can contact Bruns V Erek via his website and he will confirm that my employee David Williams sent him the bio but it was always made clear that he did not have any exclusivity to the article. A reply to my question of how I can get this article published on Wikipedia without it being removed would be greatly appreciated.


Deletion of Aston Mics

You have recently deleted my page for Aston Microphones after I had resubmitted it with edits. I had also tagged it for edit reviews which I was expecting to hear back about. Rather than delete it without context could you please explain to me why the page had been deleted and how it could have been amended. I've been np context as to what was wrong with the page other than they though I was an affiliate of the company. Could you please give me some info on what has happened.

Deletion of Pierre R. Brondeau

Hello. A while back, you deleted my page for Pierre. R Brondeau. I understand that you had some concerns about copyright infringement. I've removed that source, and would like to re-submit. [1].

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Pierre_R._Brondeau&action=edit&redlink=1
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